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L1[00:44:34] <TheKosmonaut> I missed this game
L2[00:44:37] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/30a9H0Ey/screenshot1.png
L3[00:59:26] <Rolf> been a while last i last played too
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L34[02:59:36] <estorado> Hi, anybody knows a good yt channel with beginner tutorials in the current versions? (vanilla + mechjeb)
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L40[04:18:39] <Mat2ch> estorado: well, you can use the old videos as well. But the game itself has got some good tutorials built in
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L42[04:37:48] <NGC3982> TheKosmonaut: cool. for reason i never felt any need to use the inside views for anything particular.
L43[04:49:12] <TheKosmonaut> NGC3982: me neither but it feels like hard mode
L44[04:49:19] <TheKosmonaut> But I need proper instrumentation
L45[04:50:25] <NGC3982> yeah
L46[04:50:48] <NGC3982> rendezvouz is for computers and docking is for kerbals, right?
L47[04:51:06] <NGC3982> thinking like that would make the game a tad more challenging
L48[05:06:10] <Mat2ch> TheKosmonaut: there's a mod for that ;P
L49[05:06:12] <Mat2ch> ;)
L50[05:06:58] <Mat2ch> I hope in KSP2 this will be all built in and we can control the craft as a crew
L51[05:07:02] <Mat2ch> that would be fun
L52[05:07:22] <Mat2ch> doing a mission together in a small craft ;)
L53[05:07:52] <TheKosmonaut> Mat2ch: I kinda want to pull a team together to do a true IVA only mission
L54[05:08:03] <TheKosmonaut> And have all maneuvers done by hand
L55[05:08:34] <TheKosmonaut> If this POC laptop I got from work was strong enough I'd go full nbody but alas
L56[05:09:00] <TheKosmonaut> It is barely holding 15 fps on Launchpad with a 3 part craft
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L58[05:09:36] <TheKosmonaut> NGC3982: in theory I could do rendezvous IVA only but I'd need the Mechjeb / KER info
L59[05:10:01] <NGC3982> cool
L60[05:12:12] <darsie> IVA?
L61[05:12:28] <darsie> intra vehicular activity?
L62[05:13:01] <darsie> Ah, ic.
L63[05:15:03] <NGC3982> yes
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L65[05:45:10] <Mat2ch> TheKosmonaut: hopefully with KSP2... but I guess you'll need a better computer then :)
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L67[06:01:34] * darsie is looking for a better computer.
L68[06:01:59] <darsie> i7 3770/4770 or so, gtx750ti
L69[06:02:09] <Althego> i heard there is a nice apollo guidance computer that is in working condition :)
L70[06:02:36] <darsie> With NOR chips? rope memory?
L71[06:03:20] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KSahAoOLdU&list=PL-_93BVApb59FWrLZfdlisi_x7-Ut_-w7
L72[06:03:21] <kmath> YouTube - Apollo AGC Part 1: Restoring the computer that put man on the Moon
L73[06:11:22] <NGC3982> i wonder what the computational difference between an apollo guidance computer and an i7 4770 is.
L74[06:11:25] <NGC3982> probably alot.
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L76[06:57:12] <estorado> thanks Mat2ch. I look for current mechjeb version tutorials, I am not able to create an orbit with mechjeb :|
L77[06:57:41] <estorado> probably my aircraft sucks ...
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L79[07:05:13] <NGC3982> in ksp, that is no such thing. your aircraft is just in beta-stage :)
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L95[10:45:04] * darsie flies to Tylo with a Spark, but fuel is tight.
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L97[10:52:02] <Althego> slowing down by gravity assist?
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L102[11:20:20] <darsie> No, I got to Jool orbit at Jool Pe, then adjust orbit and go to Tylo orbit at Tylo Pe.
L103[11:20:23] <darsie> go*
L104[11:21:11] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot19.png
L105[11:21:32] <Althego> tylo and to a lesser extent layhte are big assets to slow you down when you arrive
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L108[11:24:10] <darsie> Maybe, but bringing enough fuel is easier.
L109[11:24:22] <darsie> Well, unless you want to get around a lot there.
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L111[11:34:15] <JVFoxy> I've always worried about not having enough DV to do pretty much anything once I do get to Jool. Mostly given how you need several km/DV just to go from one moon to another.
L112[11:35:09] <JVFoxy> I'm guessing a lot of people just end up using nerv engines or.. anyone tried the ions over there/
L113[11:37:00] <darsie> JVFoxy: You can also refuel on Bop or so.
L114[11:37:04] <darsie> With a refinery
L115[11:37:23] <darsie> Or have a refinery there and bring a fuel shuttle to orbit.
L116[11:38:58] <darsie> Pol is even smaller, but further out.
L117[11:39:36] <darsie> Less inclined than Bop, though.
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L121[11:42:23] <Althego> you cant really run out of delta v at jool. the moons help you
L122[12:10:18] <JVFoxy> Darsie suppose I could refinery, just means sending more hardware.
L123[12:11:31] <JVFoxy> Althego gravity assists would be ideal. Although, not always easy to plan out and takes a lot more time. Figured something I could make use of when I get a probe out there some day
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L135[15:20:18] * darsie landed with a Spark on Tylo: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot21.png
L136[15:21:13] <NGC3982> wow.
L137[15:21:21] <NGC3982> how much dV did you total?
L138[15:21:51] <Althego> hehe not much fuel remaining
L139[15:22:04] <Althego> ideally engineered
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L141[15:23:57] <darsie> NGC3982: That stage had 3379 m/s. It started with 10 km Pe or so and Ap just outside SOI.
L142[15:24:18] <NGC3982> cool!
L143[15:24:46] <darsie> Sent surface temperature.
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L145[15:26:19] <darsie> That's the whole rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot22.png
L146[15:26:41] <JVFoxy> oh geez.. tylo, didn't realize gravity there was so much
L147[15:27:19] <darsie> bbl
L148[15:46:07] <darsie> .
L149[15:46:21] <UmbralRaptop> It's only 0.8 g. Same as Jool
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L152[16:07:50] <JVFoxy> sadly I only attempted a jool run long time ago, in a sandbox game.
L153[16:10:21] <JVFoxy> it was mostly a test with a probe, ancient version of KSP.. just to see if I knew how to even get out there with a fuel budget
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L157[16:56:30] <packbart> one day, I'm going to land Kerbals on another planet
L158[16:57:12] <packbart> it just takes to long and I've got shorter missions to do ;)
L159[16:59:49] <darsie> I got one home from Eve.
L160[17:00:27] <darsie> Duna is easy.
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L162[17:07:37] <packbart> it is. I just don't have a clear schedule yet to time-warp through the time it takes to arrive there
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