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L4[00:18:22] <Flayer> do you think we will
find life on other bodies in our solar system?
L5[00:18:46] <Flayer> i really hope life
will be ridiciously common
L7[00:19:50] <kmath> YouTube - Why Alien
Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter
L8[00:20:42] <Flayer> i'm not that
pessimitic :P
L9[00:20:52] <Flayer> i'm not englishing
very well right now
L10[00:20:58] <Althego> it is not bad
because they would kill us
L11[00:21:37] <Althego> it is bad because
it means a great filter is ahead of us
L12[00:21:52] <Flayer> this is all such
theoretical nonsense
L13[00:21:54] <Flayer> not
interesting
L14[00:22:09] <Flayer> life is as good
thing, no matter how it establishes itself
L15[00:22:45] <Althego> despite of this, i
think there is a possibility that mars still has life
underground
L16[00:22:57] <Flayer> yeah, it seems very
likely to me as well
L17[00:23:05] <Althego> also europa and
enceladus
L18[00:23:17] <Flayer> yep. almost
inevitable somehoe
L19[00:23:20] <Flayer> somehow.*
L20[00:23:25] <Althego> that kind of life
is immune to almost anything on the surface
L22[00:24:11] <kmath> YouTube - Jurassic
Park 3D Movie CLIP - Life Finds a Way (1993) - Steven Spielberg
Movie HD
L23[00:24:21] <Althego> hehe
L24[00:24:38] <Althego> i spared no
expense
L25[00:24:53] <Flayer> that's really the
most insperational thing i've ever heard
L26[00:24:54] <Althego> except the
sysadmin
L27[00:25:08] <Flayer> life finds a way...
i mean, that's just how it is
L28[00:25:20] <Flayer> people find a way to
exist no matter the circumstances
L29[00:25:31] <Althego> not universally.
there were many dying events
L30[00:25:36] <Flayer> even then
L31[00:25:40] <Flayer> life persists.
L32[00:26:01] <Althego> unstil it doesnt.
but bacterial life underground is very hard to kill
L33[00:26:05] <Flayer> dying and all that,
but the concept of life is not... taken down, y'know?
L34[00:26:09] <Flayer> exactly
L35[00:26:18] <Flayer> you keep going
L36[00:26:28] <Althego> it always makes me
sad when i think of the fact that life has only a few hundred
million years remaining on this planet
L37[00:27:02] <Flayer> i find life easier
to approach when i think of the notion of how stubborn the concept
of life is
L38[00:27:09] <Flayer> it just keeps
going
L39[00:27:22] <Flayer> plants, bacteria,
anything at all, y'know?
L40[00:28:12] <Flayer> a few hundred
million years ought to be enough for us to spread like a plague
across several stars
L41[00:28:18] <Flayer> i think we can do
it
L42[00:28:22] <Flayer> humanity is
exceptional
L43[00:28:47] <Flayer> all it would take is
half a dozen of seed vessels to other stars
L44[00:28:51] <Flayer> we'd keep going
XD
L45[00:29:27] <Flayer> we wouldn't even
have to send humans if life was really that rare
L46[00:29:36] <Flayer> just bacteria... let
evolution do its thing
L47[00:30:00] <Althego> that would take
billions of years. at least send tardigrades
L48[00:30:06] <Flayer> yeah, sure
L49[00:30:09] <Flayer> whatever, you
know?
L50[00:30:17] <Flayer> send a bunch of life
to other places
L51[00:30:24] <Althego> it seems
multicellurality is one of the great filters
L52[00:30:28] <Flayer> if its really all
that rar.e.. which it won't be
L53[00:30:33] <Flayer> i mean, come on it
happened here XD
L54[00:33:24] <Althego> based on this one
data point life seems to happen easily. multicellular life is a lot
harder
L55[00:33:34] <Flayer> sure
L56[00:33:49] <Flayer> but if we find life
on another body in our own solar system
L57[00:33:54] <Flayer> even if its just
bacteria
L58[00:34:05] <Flayer> multicellular life
will be so fucking common
L59[00:34:24] <Flayer> it's gonna be
everywhere with a little bit of stability
L60[00:38:10] <Flayer> i can't really
imagine it being any other way
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L63[01:39:01] <Althego> hehe
L64[01:39:08] <TheKosmonaut> I like my
skin. But mind community guidelines pls.
L65[01:39:09] <Althego> sofa king :)
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L71[05:22:43] <darsie> Execution will be
off due to non instanteneous dv.
L72[05:22:58] <darsie> With staging during
burn.
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L76[06:05:36] <Gasher[work]> wow, bright
screenshot of KSP
L77[06:05:48] <Althego> hehe
L78[06:05:53] <Althego> i always dock in
full darkness
L79[06:05:55] <Althego> somehow
L80[06:06:23] <Althego> but actually you
dont need the visuals, just the navball
L81[06:06:30] <NGC3982> could ksp
physically support a dyson object?
L82[06:06:37] <Althego> it already
did
L84[06:07:27] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - Dyson
Sphere
L85[06:10:05] <Gasher[work]> it's not
really that
L86[06:10:17] <Althego> looks more like a
dyson swarm
L87[06:10:49] <Gasher[work]> i mean, custom
star
L88[06:14:15] <Gasher[work]> NGC3982,
anyway, looks good
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L92[07:05:45] <darsie> On approach to
landing on Minmus I wanted to fly over some highland and was too
low. Lost three solar panels.
L93[07:06:23] <darsie> Should have turned
them horizontal :).
L94[07:14:35] <Flayer> my station launches
always end up toppling over for some reason
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L102[08:59:02] <darsie> Tech tree
complete, all buildings fully upgraded.
L103[08:59:39] <Althego> now collect all
science :)
L104[09:02:35] <darsie> :)
L105[09:05:42] <darsie> I'd like to fly
RSS, but it's too buggy :(.
L106[09:07:06] <darsie> What's the biome
of Jool? Jool?
L107[09:07:51] <darsie> I could fly a
barometer to Jool.
L108[09:10:51] <Althego> you can always
try to build an eve sea level return vehicle
L109[09:11:21] <darsie> Yeah, I thought
about that. Maybe with propellers.
L110[09:15:06] <Althego> delacy alpha lima
tango, welcome to this federal facility
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L115[10:08:56] <Flayer> a new pilot,
verman kerman
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L120[10:41:52] <NGC3982> is eve the
hardest planet to land and return from with kerbonauts?
L121[10:43:00] <Althego> maybe, tylo is a
close match
L122[10:43:08] <Althego> because you
haveto use fuel to land there
L123[10:43:40] <Althego> it is not like
the gentle, just dont catch fire on the way down like on eve
L124[10:43:48] <Althego> it is like omg
omg om just dont crash
L125[10:44:12] <Althego> the only planet
where you have to stage while going down
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L127[11:28:27] <darsie> 20 km Tylo orbit
should be 2135 m/s. And you need dv to get there.
L128[11:28:36] <Althego> ?::?:?
L130[11:29:16] <darsie> Kessler syndrome
is here.
L131[11:29:59] <darsie> Hmm, escape
velocity 3 068.81 m/s. That might be within one stage.
L132[11:31:47] <Althego> no more lanches
this year
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L135[11:45:45] <Althego> cute
L137[11:48:42] <darsie> 4236*
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L142[11:52:52] <darsie> Scale it up and
you can bring a fuel factory to get away, too.
L143[11:53:06] <packbart> at a TWR of 20,
throttling for touchdown can get a bit hairy
L144[11:53:07] <Althego> from where
L145[11:53:15] <darsie> Tylo
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L148[12:00:09] <Althego> or make it
smaller multi stage
L149[12:00:43] <Althego> also where i the
por source
L150[12:00:52] <Althego> power
L151[12:01:07] <darsie> missing,
radiators, too.
L152[12:01:12] <darsie> and landing
legs.
L153[12:01:21] <Althego> eh
L154[12:01:40] <Althego> but in tis case
you do need legs
L155[12:01:58] <darsie> It's just an
estimate, not a complete design.
L156[12:03:11] <Althego> expect to lose
maybe 10% of the delta v estimate to landing
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L158[12:03:55] <darsie> mhm. It has 4673.
Escape is 3069.
L159[12:06:58] <darsie> packbart: Just
limit thrust to 10%.
L160[12:16:10] <Flayer> 500 ms should be
enough to go from a mun flyby to docking with the mun station,
yeah?
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L163[12:17:45] <darsie> mhm
L164[12:18:02] <darsie> IIRC it's 280 m/s
from low orbit to Kerbin.
L165[12:18:17] <Flayer> there's more fuel
on the station
L166[12:18:22] <Flayer> to get back
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L169[12:20:50] <Flayer> then i'm going
with a full load of snacks too
L170[12:21:21] <darsie> ofc this means
coming from Kerbin, not Eeloo.
L171[12:21:28] <Flayer> i'll go light on
the monoprop and the ablator
L172[12:23:03] <Flayer> i mean i could
just put a bigger booster underneath or drop the completely
unnecessary landing gear, but this is how i'm going to do it
lol
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L175[14:10:08] <JVFoxy> ooof... ok guess I
didn't need quite /that/ much fuel for a long range in-flight
contract. It only used 1/4 of what I threw in
L176[14:11:24] <JVFoxy> 5 of them Mk1
tanks.. managed to do a detour into the badlands, but ugh... seems
to land like an ol' 747 in ways
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L180[14:56:21] <Flayer> i keep getting eve
exploration missions even though the duna window is coming up in 40
days
L181[14:56:50] <Althego> actually the
career games starts just at the end of an eve launch window
L182[14:57:04] <Althego> so if you hurry
you can launch something at the beginning of the game for eve
L183[14:57:53] <Althego> but ultimately it
is pointless, since you get all the tree long before that probe
gets there
L184[14:58:16] <Flayer> you and i play
different games
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L186[15:05:10] <Althego> obviously, i have
been playing elite the last few days. hasnt played it for 5
years
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L190[15:13:49] <JVFoxy> different routes
for different people
L191[15:13:53] <JVFoxy> or however the
saying goes
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L193[15:32:37] <JVFoxy> wee... polar cap
mission
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L199[16:43:31] *
NGC3982 makes his space station enormous
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L205[17:38:54] <NGC3982> i can't get my
station to stop moving
L206[17:39:11] <NGC3982> any way i can fix
it? it's constantly moving back and forward
L207[17:49:19] <darsie> turn on time warp
;)
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L210[18:10:37] <packbart> I'd guess it's
SAS wobbling the station in resonance
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L212[18:20:12] <darsie> Some stuff also
wobbles without SAS.
L213[18:28:58] <NGC3982> it wobbles by
itself without sas and rcs activated
L214[18:35:33] <packbart> remove KJR
;)
L215[18:35:39] <NGC3982> kjr?
L216[18:36:03] <NGC3982> google indicates
i should actually add kjr
L217[18:36:07] <NGC3982> this game is
unmodded
L218[18:37:55] <packbart> ah, ok. I had a
similar problem when I tested KJR. My fuel station would suddenly
start to wobble and disintegrate
L220[19:04:52] <NGC3982> nice
L221[19:04:56] <NGC3982> that looks
cool
L222[19:05:16] <NGC3982> i solved my
problem by not using SAS or RCS and move the stations physical
nodes length wise
L224[19:06:19] <NGC3982> need to launch a
towing ship for that large tank section. it wasn't built properly
so is basically dead by itself
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