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L5[00:52:25] <UmbralRaptop> yeah, the new
SRBs are, uh, notably powerful
L6[00:53:15] <UmbralRaptop> The smol ones
probably can act like Star 37 etc upper stages
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L8[01:28:10] <Althego> finally there is a
more powerful sepratoron :)
L9[01:28:53] <Gasher[work]> flea? :)
L10[01:29:46] <Deddly> Pollux?
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L12[01:37:48] <Deddly> Talking of using
Pollux as a sepratron, I wonder how Star Theory solved the high
part count problem.
L13[01:41:39] <Deddly> And talking about
performance, I can highly recommend playing around with the
"render quality" slider if anyone is playing with a weak
GPU. Turning off anti-aliasing and adjusting the render quality
seems to have a much greater impact on performance than any other
options
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L22[02:34:57] <packbart> changing
"scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg
under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL" - ah, the forum knows best
L23[02:35:18] <Deddly> What does that
do?
L24[02:35:28] <packbart> re-reverse the
mouse scroll wheel
L25[02:36:00] <Deddly> Ah, that makes
sense
L26[02:36:08] <packbart> I didn't see any
other settings for that
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L44[06:05:13] <darsie> When will the new
demo come out?
L45[06:08:04] <Deddly> I heard that there's
a DNA grafting project that is attempting to give swine wings and
the ability to soar into the air like eagles. When they succeed, I
presume the new KSP demo will come out.
L47[06:08:15] <Deddly> That's also
true
L48[06:10:31] <darsie> steam doesn't
install it.
L49[06:11:20] <Deddly> It doesn't? OK
that's a shame
L50[06:14:40] <darsie> Does it for you? Or
anyone?
L51[06:16:28] <Deddly> I don't really use
Steam, but there was someone who got that not more than a month or
two ago and it worked for them
L53[06:17:44] <Deddly>
<rolls-eyes-emotican>
L54[06:17:53] <darsie> yay :)
L55[06:19:13] <Deddly> Don't get your hopes
up too much, we're already 5 versions and two years after that
post. But I suppose we are technically still "after
1.3.1", so...
L56[06:20:02] <darsie> ik :)
L58[06:20:41] <Deddly> Note that I have not
checked any of the links for malware or anything
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L60[06:33:14] <darsie> These file links ask
me to log in and after logging in do nothing.
L61[06:33:22] <darsie> bbl
L63[06:48:34] <Gasher_> oh wow, naming
conventions for moons
L64[06:52:50] <Deddly> I prefer to call
them dwarf moons
L65[06:53:04] <Deddly> Most of them haven't
cleared their orbits
L66[06:54:07] <Deddly> :P
L67[06:55:38] <Gasher_> you know, if they
choose names of dwarves from norse mythology it'd be quite
fitting
L68[06:56:19] <Deddly> Ha, nice
L69[06:57:20] <Deddly> I wonder why they
chose giants
L70[06:58:09] <Gasher_> it seems like a
suggestion
L71[06:58:19] <Deddly> No, it's a
requirement
L72[06:58:21] <packbart> Vindalf, Alberich,
Andvari, Durin - I once had a bunch of virtual machines I named
after norse-ish dwarves
L74[06:58:25] <Gasher_> ah, must be
L75[06:58:29] <Gasher_> i havn't noticed
that
L76[06:58:53] <Deddly> I think they should
pick Hel, just so you can tell people you don't like that they
should visit one of the moons of Saturn.
L77[06:59:03] <Gasher_> packbart, well
Tolkien did take dwarves' names directly from that song
L78[06:59:22] <Gasher_> i think all giants
were evil in norse mythology
L79[06:59:27] <Gasher_> all or almost
all
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L82[08:19:30] <darsie> BFG
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L87[08:29:38] <Deddly> Something tells me
the Big Friendly Giant isn't part of ancient Norse mythology
;)
L88[08:29:53] <Deddly> Although that would
be quite amusing
L89[08:30:09] <Deddly> Imagine him turning
up in the next Avengers
L90[08:31:27] <darsie> :)
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L93[09:10:04] <GlassYuri> <Deddly> I
think they should pick Hel, just so you can tell people you don't
like that they should visit one of the moons of Saturn.
L94[09:10:19] <GlassYuri> you can always
tell people to go to helsinki airport
L95[09:10:55] <GlassYuri> there was a piece
of news a few years back that flight 666 on friday the 13th had
safely landed in HEL
L96[09:14:43] <Deddly> That's good to know,
GlassYuri
L97[09:15:34] <GlassYuri> looked it up, it
was Finnair, it was renumbered in 2017, and had flown as AY666 on
friday the 13th for 21 times
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L99[09:26:53] <Kalpa^> Finnair
mentioned
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L101[09:27:44] <Kalpa> Long time no irc my
fellow kerbonauts
L102[09:27:53] <Kalpa> Does Supernovy
still frequent this place?
L103[09:58:30] <Deddly> Hey there
Kalpa
L104[09:59:08] <Deddly> I don't think so,
Kalpa
L105[09:59:26] <Deddly> He's still around,
but I don't think he comes here anymore. I could be wrong
L106[10:01:54] <darsie> I have 1e26 toms
in my body solving Schroedinger equations non stop.
L107[10:02:13] <Kalpa> Damn.
L108[10:02:31] <darsie> Umm, wrong
channel?
L109[10:02:59] <Kalpa> That sounds pretty
existential, yes
L110[10:03:02] <Kalpa> Try
#philosophy
L111[10:04:05] <darsie> yeah, wrong
channel ...
L112[10:04:50] <Deddly> Try moar boosters,
darsie
L113[10:05:01] <darsie> k
L114[10:05:08] <darsie> I tried
yesterday.
L115[10:05:20] <darsie> Got scolded for
it.
L116[10:05:34] <darsie> Cause I did it at
3 am.
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L119[10:16:38] <sandbox> less
boosters
L120[10:17:31] <snow> HERESY
L121[10:18:24] <sandbox> fewer boosters
:P
L122[10:18:32] <darsie> lesser
boosters
L123[10:18:50] <Deddly> That's better,
sandbox.
L124[10:19:35] <darsie> Hmm, I could see
if I can get to orbit even cheaper with the lesser booster.
L125[10:21:16] <packbart> lesser boosters,
greater boosters, ancient arch-boosters
L126[10:21:41] <Kalpa> Needs more
booster.
L127[10:21:53] <Deddly> Sounds like
species of birds, packbart.
L128[10:22:02] <Deddly> Lesser-spotted
booster
L129[10:22:49] <packbart> I was thinking
of minor gods but couldn't find a good description of godly
hierarchies right now
L130[10:25:27] <UmbralRaptop> One (1)
booster
L131[10:26:21] <packbart> The Holy Booster
of Antioch?
L132[10:27:35] *
UmbralRaptop wonders if anyone has used one of the 2.5 m boosters
to send a probe directly to Eve
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L135[10:34:57] <Eddi|zuHause> less is
more?
L136[10:37:50] <UmbralRaptop> "less
is more or less more"
L137[10:38:28] <UmbralRaptop> (The best
manpage entry, deprecated for something that is actually
helpful)
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L151[11:44:47] <Tsar_bomba> Hi
L152[11:44:50] <Mod9000> Hello,
Tsar_bomba
L153[11:45:18] <Deddly> ALrighty
there
L154[11:45:33] <Tsar_bomba> The
L155[11:45:39] <Tsar_bomba> Opps
L156[11:45:51] <Deddly> I'm not entirely
sure I should be welcoming the Tsar Bomba, but hey ;)
L157[11:46:00] <Althego> hehe
L158[11:46:16] <Althego> maybe in soviet
russia the tsar bomba welcomes you
L159[11:46:25] <Tsar_bomba> I wish i was
more original
L160[11:46:53] <Tsar_bomba> and that
America was more impressive
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L164[11:54:12] <Althego> gone in a flash
:)
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L166[12:23:57] <Althego> does 1.8
overwrite the config from some hidden storage?
L167[12:24:02] <Althego> i melded it
twice
L168[12:24:07] <Althego> and i lose all of
my settings
L169[12:24:23] <Althego> which i dont want
to set manually from some random menus again
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L171[12:25:55] <Althego> at least i should
save the file so that i dont need to meld it again
L172[12:27:35] <UmbralRaptop> Maybe
related to the new graphics settings?
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L174[12:29:43] <Mat2ch> My mouse wheel is
inverted somehow
L175[12:30:04] <Deddly> Mat2ch, known
bug
L176[12:30:10] <Deddly> There's a
workaround
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L178[12:30:58] *
UmbralRaptop blames Apple
L179[12:31:35] <Deddly> Trying to find
that solution...
L180[12:34:52] <Deddly> Sorry can't find
it right now, but I think it was packbart who found it
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L182[12:37:20] <packbart> I read it on the
forum ;)
L183[12:37:22] <packbart> changing
"scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg
under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL"
L184[12:51:38] <Althego> ok this is
unplayable like this
L185[12:52:41] <Althego> because of
settings are always reset i dont get past the main menu
screen
L186[12:52:47] <UmbralRaptop> aaaaaa
L187[12:53:07] <UmbralRaptop> make
settings.cfg readonly?
L188[12:53:20] <Althego> i havent tried
that
L189[12:53:30] <Althego> but it was not
needed until now and shouldnt be
L190[12:53:54] <Althego> if i am unlucky
it is going to crash because of that
L191[12:54:12] <packbart> well, my custom
PHYSICS_FRAME_DT_LIMIT did survive the upgrade
L192[12:54:42] <Althego> apparently nobody
has this problem
L193[12:57:01] <kubi> hmm
L194[12:57:10] <kubi> mouse scroll zoom
reversed?!
L195[12:57:18] <packbart> yes
L196[12:57:22] <kubi> why on earth?!
L197[12:57:27] <packbart> 'change
"scale = 1" to "scale = -1" in the settings.cfg
under "AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL"'
L198[12:57:28] <UmbralRaptop>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L199[12:57:31] <packbart> or maybe inv to
True
L200[12:57:50] <packbart> possibly with
the Unity update and because Apple Did It? ;)
L201[12:58:03] <Althego> burn apple
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L203[13:00:31] <UmbralRaptop> I'm blaming
Apple indirectly for "natural" scrolling
L204[13:01:55] <kubi> I can't find any
zoom in the settings
L205[13:02:17] <Althego> as they said, you
hav to change it in the settings.cfg
L206[13:02:28] <Althego> not all settings
are there in the guiú
L207[13:02:57] <packbart> kubi: changing
the setting in AXIS_MOUSEWHEEL changed both for me
L208[13:04:25] <kubi> in the mouse
settings there is only a wheel sensitivity
L209[13:04:35] <kubi> should I do directly
to the file?
L210[13:06:14] <kubi> ah, ok
L211[13:06:28] <packbart> that's what I
did. maybe it'll change again with 1.8.1 ;)
L212[13:07:14] <kubi> axis = -1
L213[13:07:17] <kubi> maybe that is
L214[13:07:59] <Althego> btw electron
launch was successful, supőposedly went up to 1000 km
L215[13:08:48] <Althego> file unchanged
when read only
L216[13:08:54] <Althego> still gets the
data wrong
L217[13:09:02] <Althego> meaning it resets
to default
L218[13:09:23] <ItsGrey> Good morning. It
seems since 1.8 last night my altimeter is just a grey blob. I have
tried removing all mods, and all the numbers are just little grey
blocks. I also did a file integrity check on steam.
L219[13:09:24] <packbart> which settings
do you need to change?
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L221[13:09:42] <Althego> random stuff in
all around the config
L222[13:09:59] <Althego> even if i changea
few booleans or simple numeric they still change back
L223[13:10:04] <packbart> giving users
access to low level settings is such a support nightmare ;)
L224[13:10:04] <Althego> even if i change
them in the gui
L225[13:10:30] <Althego> for example the
game insists it should go up to 120 fps which is pointless in most
monitors
L226[13:10:34] <Althego> so i truned it
down to 60
L227[13:10:39] <packbart> ok, that's weird
then. maybe some error in the settings causes it to reject the
whole file?
L228[13:10:40] <Althego> patch conic limit
increased
L229[13:10:42] <Althego> siome keys
changed
L230[13:10:44] <Althego> etc
L231[13:10:59] <Althego> but that is it,
the game rewrites the settings to the defauklt on each start
L232[13:11:08] <Althego> so it means the
default is wrong
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L234[13:12:12] <UmbralRaptop> aaaa
L235[13:13:07] <Althego> somehow the
fullscreen setting remains, even if it changes it back in the
file
L236[13:13:14] <Althego> also the screen
resolution
L237[13:19:58] <kubi> software
industry
L238[13:24:04] <Althego> even that
annoying unity user data popup comes back every time
L239[13:26:57] <UmbralRaptop> Cleansing
fire?
L240[13:29:33] <Althego> apparently the
videos of the new tesxtures didnt do them any jjustice, even in the
menu screen the new mun surface looks better
L241[13:29:49] <Althego> unfortunately
that is as far as i go with 1.8 with the settings like this
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L244[13:32:26] <packbart> maybe I'll try
resetting the settings, too
L245[13:33:03] <Mat2ch> packbart: mine
looks the same
L246[13:33:39] <kubi> just delete the
config file
L247[13:37:02] <Althego> so this supposed
verbose log i can tur on... where does it go?
L248[13:37:54] <Althego> probably to the
usual log file, but the startup is not really doing anything more
thant without it
L249[13:38:19] <kubi> there will be an
1.8.1 soon, I hope
L250[13:38:48] <Althego> so annoying, it
resets the config every time, even if i just start the game, quit,
and start again
L252[13:40:11] <packbart> have you tried
removing the file, starting once and then edit it?
L253[13:40:20] <Althego> that is it
L254[13:40:23] <Althego> i doint even need
to edit it
L255[13:40:29] <Althego> it reqerites it
on every startup
L256[13:40:39] <packbart> ah, ok.
L257[13:49:21] <UmbralRaptop> Looks like a
bunch of people on the forum are having the same problem
L258[13:49:41] <Althego> then google still
didnt index it yet :)
L260[13:51:42] <UmbralRaptop> no solution
yet
L261[13:52:34] <Althego> i can tell it is
not steam related because i dont even have an avvount
L262[13:53:27] <Althego> can be anything
from unity bug through some os quirk to some locale specific
setting
L263[13:54:24] <UmbralRaptop> Error,
Austrian co-monarch not found
L264[13:54:32] <Althego> hehe
L265[13:54:37] <Althego> not far from
here
L266[13:54:55] <Althego> although the
habsburg family still exists
L267[13:57:40] <packbart> We are already
working on a fix but in the meantime the work around for this issue
is changing your Regional Format to English (US).
L269[13:57:50] <Althego> hehe, thought
so
L270[13:58:00] <Althego> at least it was
one og my guesses
L271[13:58:24] <Althego> maybe the
fraction symbol (. or ,), that often happens
L272[14:00:32] <Althego> i guess i can
wait for 1.8.1, because i havent played any game for a month or
so
L273[14:00:45] <Althego> i dont even
understand how that was possible
L274[14:02:44] <JVFoxy> what config
setting you trying to deal with?
L275[14:03:03] <Althego> none
L276[14:03:23] <Althego> apparently the
game decides to overwrite the config because of some locale
setting
L277[14:03:40] <Althego> must have crept
in with the unity upgrade
L278[14:04:19] <JVFoxy> huh...
L279[14:04:30] <Althego> obviosuly no
issue with us settings :)
L280[14:04:45] <Althego> hehe that reminds
me when you could only install siemens software with german
settings
L281[14:04:48] <JVFoxy> can't say I've had
any config issues... did have some weird text font glitch on the
intro screen once
L282[14:05:00] <Althego> because what else
would be the only true language of a siemens software
L283[14:05:31] <Althego> somehow i am
unimpressed with the new nasa (moon) space suits
L284[14:06:10] <Althego> ok, the 8 psi
(about 55% atmo) pressure is impressive
L285[14:06:31] <Althego> but otherwise
still just a bit better than the current ones
L286[14:06:42] <JVFoxy> not sure higher
pressure is really a good thing though
L287[14:06:56] <Althego> it is not good if
you get a leak :)
L288[14:06:57] <JVFoxy> weren't they
designed so they could dock on side of that rover, and can get in
and out of quickly?
L289[14:07:21] <Althego> probably because
tha backpack part looks incredibly big
L290[14:07:50] <JVFoxy> covers up hatch,
swings out...
L291[14:08:28] <Althego> apparently a lot
higher mobility
L292[14:08:34] <Althego> ok, maybe i am
starting to be impressed
L293[14:08:35] <JVFoxy> looking at it
closer... reminds me a bit of the Orlan suits
L294[14:10:33] <JVFoxy> I actually kind of
liked the shuttle/iss suits... but that is just me I guess
L295[14:10:49] <Althego> the orange color
is not very good for mars :)
L296[14:11:24] <JVFoxy> orange.. wait
which one we talk'n about now?
L297[14:11:41] <Althego> you mentioned the
shuttle iva suits, it looks like that
L298[14:11:44] <Althego> the second
one
L300[14:11:49] <kmath> YouTube - NASA
presents spacesuits for moon exploration – 10/15/2019
L301[14:13:07] <JVFoxy> oh wasn't meaning
the flight pressure suits.. the eva ones
L303[14:14:48] <Althego> those are the
generic us spacesuits, may have started on the shuttle, but i
wouldnt associate them strictly with the shuttle, unlike the orange
iva stuff, that was so shuttle
L304[14:15:42] <JVFoxy> shuttle/ISS EVA
suits...
L305[14:16:05] <JVFoxy> the one one looks
like a mash of the two suit systems used on ISS
L306[14:16:35] <Althego> and tomorrow is
friday
L307[14:17:04] <JVFoxy> don't party too
hard.... yet
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L310[14:19:32] <kmath> YouTube - How to
make Plutonium
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L317[14:37:02] <Althego> hehehe, user
comment "The James Webb Telescope is going to be a
game-changer. I'm going to be so nervous when it launches in
2027."
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L320[14:42:03] <Tank2333> so soon?
L321[14:42:51] <Althego> supposedly in
2021
L322[14:51:25] <umaxtu> isn't it software
written in javascript or something equally stupid?
L323[14:51:48] <Althego> what, jwst?
L324[14:51:52] <umaxtu> yeah
L325[14:52:00] <Althego> i gope not
L326[14:52:07] <Althego> also covfefe
:)
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L329[14:53:56] <Althego> ok then it is a
failure already
L330[15:02:25] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, I
bet some of the websites for submitting proposals or running
exposure time calcs use JavaScript,
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L339[15:59:05] <kmath> <BP_Hutch>
Love this photo of Alexei Leonov throwing a football in the
National Mall during a visit to Washington, D.C.
https://t.co/088vnONY1O
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L344[16:31:38] <Guest75785> can someone
give me some support about a problem in my ksp?
L345[16:32:06] <UmbralRaptop> Well, you
haven't stated what the problem is?
L346[16:32:29] <UmbralRaptop> If it's
mouse wheel related, you'll have to edit settings.cfg
L347[16:33:06] <UmbralRaptop> If it's the
altimeter being gray, you'll need to up one of the scaling options
(hud?) to at least 95%
L348[16:33:42] <UmbralRaptop> If it's
settings being undone every time you restart KSP, I don't know the
solution, or if one has yet been found
L349[16:33:43] <Guest75785> my ground
science doesn't send science any more. After the 1.8 update, I
wanted to have a look for the new visual effects and deleted some
mods, now the error ingame appears "the science stations can't
work, cause they don't touch a planets surface"
L350[16:34:43] <UmbralRaptop> Hrm, sounds
like terrain changes mean that they would need to be replaced?
(assuming that this isn't a mod interaction)
L351[16:35:34] <Guest75785> replacement by
picking the parts up with a kerbal and place them again doesn't
work
L352[16:35:57] <Guest75785> I'll put the
mod-stuff back and try if it works again, wait a moment
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L354[16:37:20] <UmbralRaptop> hrm. Does
placing new parts entirely?
L355[16:37:35] <UmbralRaptop> I know that
1.8 is a breaking change in some ways
L356[16:37:57] <Guest75785> and .. where
can I bet, that KSP 2 will be a failure?
L357[16:39:40] <UmbralRaptop> Uh, I think
reddit has some betting subreddits?
L358[16:39:50] <Guest75785> nope, put the
mods back doesn't work. What a pitty...
L359[16:40:22] <Guest75785> I need the
sciencepoints so bad :(
L360[16:41:27] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, I
tend to make sure to have backups / multiple installs, though the
game does not make it clear that this is a good idea, especially
with mods.
L361[16:41:46] <Guest75785> have a nice
evening out there. What a funny experience. Haven't been in a
public browser-chat since the mid 90th :D
L362[16:43:15] <UmbralRaptop> IRC clients
still exist!
L363[16:43:25] *
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