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L4[01:09:11] <Dutchy45> Hey guys. It's
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L101[12:40:20] <JVFoxy> ugh...
L102[12:40:44] <Althego> olympics
L103[12:40:57] <JVFoxy> eh.. sorta..
L104[12:41:26] <JVFoxy> having
difficulties trying to figure out why a docking craft is having
such hard time just gettnig to orbit.
L105[12:41:45] <JVFoxy> stupid thing is...
I know I've done more with far less
L106[12:41:59] <JVFoxy> trying to trackd
own a craft I made a while back in some previous session
L107[12:43:13] <Althego> drag?
L108[12:46:42] <JVFoxy> not sure.. know in
a moment. Managed to find the craft files and ported over to
current game
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L113[12:52:48] <JVFoxy> huh.. ok so maybe
I was going down a different way of thinking at the time.
L114[12:54:20] <JVFoxy> I may have tried
to recreate what I did in the past but because of part count,
(linear RCS instead of the quads meant more parts used) ended up
with something 2 staged with a single LF side booster (using a
docking port)
L115[12:56:18] <JVFoxy> ugh.. ever wish
KSP had a built in notepad? Having to rememeber numbers and stuff
because game minimizes whenever you flip outside...
L116[12:58:20] <umaxtu> put it in
borderless windowed mode
L117[13:00:15] <JVFoxy> eh..
L118[13:00:28] <JVFoxy> window I know..
but borderless?
L119[13:01:41] <umaxtu> it looks like its
fullscreen except its actually running in windowed mode
L120[13:01:56] <JVFoxy> windows 10 only
thing or?
L121[13:05:11] <umaxtu> nope
L122[13:05:17] <umaxtu> you running
windows?
L123[13:05:20] <JVFoxy> ya..7
L124[13:05:38] <umaxtu> running KSP via
steam?
L125[13:06:06] <JVFoxy> no.. gotten
directly from squad
L126[13:07:18] <umaxtu> ok, what you need
to do is add "-popupwindow" to your ksp launch arguments
(minus the quotes)
L127[13:08:02] <JVFoxy> huh... k, give me
a moment
L128[13:09:44] <JVFoxy> just did a
recreation of my Kawauso (japanese for otter) docking test craft.
Turns out its less parts, more delta V than the previous version.
More to do with how I split up the tanks between lower and upper
half
L129[13:10:32] <JVFoxy> it sorta looks
like stretched version of the Mercury-Atlas setup, but with only 2
engines that stays
L130[13:12:31] <umaxtu> no
stage-and-a-half? lame
L131[13:14:28] <JVFoxy> not really needed.
With max 18t, couple of swivles pushes enough Gs from the start as
it is
L132[13:14:58] <JVFoxy> I have done stage
and half with bigger designs though
L133[13:17:21] <JVFoxy> umaxtu the
argument to launcher.exe or?
L134[13:17:45] <umaxtu> ksp_x64.exe
L135[13:17:55] <umaxtu> not sure it will
work if you launch it via the launcher
L136[13:19:04] <JVFoxy> oh wait.. think I
noticed something. let me test quickly
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L138[13:20:36] <JVFoxy> ok got it...
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L140[13:20:55] <JVFoxy> argument in
shortcut to ksp_x64, but in game settings, have to have fullscreen
off
L141[13:20:59] <JVFoxy> thanks
L142[13:21:13] <umaxtu> np. I hope it
helps
L143[13:22:06] <JVFoxy> only downside is
having to shortcut with the argument, but thats ok. I should
probably have shortcutted to a few of the game versions anyway on
desktop, quality of life thing..
L144[13:22:35] <JVFoxy> ya, was sort of
annoying when game flips out of view all the time, yes this'll help
loads
L145[13:35:35] <JVFoxy> this'll be nice
too, hopefully capture software won't freak out when I try toggling
overlays
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L149[13:48:35] <Tiron> oh hey, dis is
still here. cool.
L150[13:49:49] <UmbralRaptop> hi?
L151[13:51:31] <JVFoxy> yo
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L153[13:52:28] <Althego> hehe
L154[13:54:09] <Tiron> and Umbral still
has his Raptop I see.
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L157[13:54:53] <Tiron> there, hexchat
reinstalled... stupid windows 10.
L158[13:55:19] <UmbralRaptop> Tiron: new
raptops though
L159[13:55:35] <UmbralRaptop> One being an
Intel U8665
L160[13:55:43] <Tiron> ah.
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L163[13:56:25] <Tiron> I've upgraded a bit
myself... playing KSP again. was hoping to pick taniwha's brain
again but he's super idle. okay that was weird.
L164[13:56:46] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, feel
free to ask about things
L165[13:57:09] <Tiron> hee.
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L168[13:57:53] <Tiron> okay stop
dat.
L169[13:58:23] <JVFoxy> speaking of
picking brains...
L170[13:59:14] <Tiron> heh.
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L172[13:59:39] <JVFoxy> noticed I don't
have a few crew reports in high kerbin orbit. I know during Apollo
moon missions they did some deepspace EVAs. Got me wondering how
'cold' it mighta been out there
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L174[13:59:52] <Tiron> oh for poot's
*sake*
L175[13:59:58] <JVFoxy> oop
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L177[14:00:14] <JVFoxy> whats booting
you?
L178[14:00:17] <Tiron> 'no such device or
address'
L179[14:00:41] *
UmbralRaptop blames bad WiFi?
L180[14:00:54] <Tiron> wired. although the
wire sucks.
L181[14:01:06] <Tiron> *jiggles it*
L182[14:01:13] <JVFoxy> sharing
router?
L183[14:01:48] <Tiron> yeah but none of
the other stuff is on, and it's FTTH now so it shouldn't matter
*too* much.
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L185[14:02:12] <JVFoxy> ...
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L187[14:02:56] <JVFoxy> I meant.. more ...
sharing the router between machines at home?
L188[14:02:59] <Tiron> okay, let's try the
bloody webchat again, and if that does it, it's probably my stupid
cable.
L189[14:03:10] <Tiron> yeah. two PCs +
wifi.
L190[14:03:28] <Tiron> you know... *has an
idea*
L191[14:03:33] <JVFoxy> usually its booted
me if I stayed quiet for 2 minutes or more, though it usually
didn't say anything. This sorta new to em
L192[14:03:47] <JVFoxy> ugh keepalives but
anyways
L193[14:04:09] <Tiron> I have some
ideas.
L194[14:04:30] <Tiron> so far the web
client isn't doing it, hexchat is. webclient seems to be using
ipv4, hexchat seems to be using ipv6.
L195[14:04:50] <JVFoxy> I know our router
used to flake out a lot, very randomly. I suspected it mighta been
a power flux going on with the mains because room mate has AC on
same power circuit
L196[14:05:03] <Tiron> I've had problems
with ipv6 before which I only managed to resolve by turning it
off... but I just installed windows 10 the other day so it's back
on...
L197[14:05:27] <Tiron> test says... MTU
problems. hrm hrm.
L198[14:05:30] <JVFoxy> ah.. can't say I
knwo much about IPV6 other than it being next level
L199[14:06:28] <Tiron> I know a little
from frakking with it on windoze 7.
L200[14:06:45] <JVFoxy> right now, I'm
debating if I shoudl use the docking target to boost into high
orbit, or conserve its fuel for some other later mission. 'Otter'
has enough fuel to do it on its own though.
L201[14:07:10] <Tiron> it *could* be that
the ICMP control messages are getting blocked by da routa.
L202[14:07:15] <JVFoxy> ah.. win7 this
machine.. 10 got stuck on laptop when parents got it for me.
eh..
L203[14:08:01] <JVFoxy> well considering
it kept knocking you off ever 2 minutes. If I didn't have a
keepalive on some stuff, I usually was bounced off every 2 minutes
as well
L204[14:08:40] <Tiron> it's probably my
weird ipv6 problems. which I know an easy way to fix temporarily...
if it still works in 10...
L205[14:08:42] <JVFoxy> wondering if its
not seeing anything on IVP4, it just slams the ports closed on
you
L206[14:09:16] <Tiron> nah what I think is
the connection's getting screwed up on my end because of the IPv6
connection being wonky. the webchat doesn't even *try* to use it so
bypasses it.
L207[14:09:20] ***
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L208[14:09:30] <TironWC> if that's the
case... let's see here...
L209[14:09:40] <TironWC> and just as a
warning, Win 7 support ends in january. >.<
L210[14:10:11] <Althego> xp support ended
years ago, and it is still running :)
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L212[14:10:23] <TironWC> yeah.
L213[14:10:30] <TironWC> just means it
doesn't get patches.
L214[14:11:12] <TironWC> okay, let's
try... this then.
L215[14:11:36] <JVFoxy> I've got xp on
another machine... but its never going to see net again anyways
so...
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L217[14:11:51] <JVFoxy> I've got xp on
another machine... but its never going to see net again anyways
so... I've mostly got it for running older games now
L218[14:11:54] <Tiron> hokay. IPv6
disabled. at least they didn't change *that* too much.
L219[14:11:58] <Tiron> yeah.
L220[14:12:29] <Tiron>
iiiinteresting.
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L222[14:12:43] <Tiron> *leaves the webchat
connected for now*
L223[14:13:06] <JVFoxy> webchat.. the
website right?
L224[14:13:11] <Tiron> yeah.
L225[14:13:29] <Tiron> it's like an applet
or something on esper.net's page that lets you connect via a
browser.
L226[14:14:19] <Tiron> it hasn't
disconnected yet except when I told it to, I got this one back in
hexchat and am waiting to see...
L227[14:14:21] <JVFoxy> I know... kind of
where I found this channel actually. Eventually I got around to
pulling up my ol mIRC client again. At the time, our router kept
dropping me and I hated loosing the channel logs each time I had ot
reconnect
L228[14:14:34] <Tiron> hah.
L229[14:14:38] <Tiron> I'm using
hexchat.
L230[14:14:56] <Tiron> I used mIRC lo
those many years ago... but it's too damn naggy.
L231[14:14:59] <JVFoxy> using version I
had from back around 2000s... lets just say I've been around a long
time
L232[14:15:11] <Tiron> haha, did you
actually pay for it?
L233[14:15:36] <JVFoxy> no... think I got
it before it started doing stupid super naggy stuff
L234[14:15:50] <JVFoxy> V5.51
L235[14:15:53] <Tiron> ah. it's gotten
worse. last time I Tried to use it, I was like 'frak this' and
found a new one.
L236[14:16:11] <JVFoxy> it does pull up
help file now and then, but whatever..
L237[14:16:18] <JVFoxy> only when I load
it
L238[14:16:32] <Tiron> yeah. I think the
newest version like, actually has a 30 day kill switch in it.
L239[14:16:39] <Tiron> I forget.
L240[14:16:51] <Tiron> HexChat's just free
unless you *want* to give them $10.
L241[14:17:00] <JVFoxy> I had talked to
someone a while back, at one point, it got stupid naggy... think
the person ended up paying again for another newer version.. meh.
Whatever, it works for most part.
L242[14:17:19] <Tiron> yeah.
L243[14:17:26] <Tiron> I haven't used mIRC
since... the early 2000s.
L244[14:17:47] <JVFoxy> granted, doesn't
have hyperlinks, hangs sometimes on channels when I reconnect.. I
don't want overly complicated.
L245[14:17:59] <JVFoxy> lol.. tried
Pirch?
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L247[14:18:21] <Tiron> Not disconnecting
so fek of webchat.
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L250[14:19:27] <Tiron> hexchat is fairly
simple. I like it so far. also actually making it free with
optional donations, big plus.
L251[14:19:39] <JVFoxy> I tried an early
version of Pirch, briefly. I dropped it when I coudn't figure out
how to add new servers to a list. ugh.. ... >_<
L252[14:20:00] <Tiron> reminds me, I need
to set up auto connect...
L253[14:20:51] *
JVFoxy looks back at KSP game thats been waiting patiently on
hold...
L254[14:21:03] <JVFoxy> wonder if I
attempt to stream...
L255[14:21:23] <Tiron> *windows 10* 'Skype
is now enabled' <Me> 'Great, I've never used it and I don't
intend to start.'
L256[14:21:34] <sandbox> I use hexchat
now, but I used to use cheatengine to bypass mirc's nag
screen
L257[14:21:45] <Tiron> lmao sounds about
right.
L258[14:22:18] <UmbralRaptop> irssi!
L259[14:22:21] <JVFoxy> sandbox what
version were ya on?
L260[14:23:28] <sandbox> JVFoxy, I can't
remember, it was about 5 years ago
L261[14:23:43] <Tiron> I think I used
irssi for something once. splitter or something so I could have it
on my kindle while streaming. *has two monitors now*
L262[14:24:04] *
JVFoxy goes to check something on mIRC folder, finds out why he's
got a gap on icon line up on desktop. "oooh.. stupid thing
moved, no wonder"
L263[14:25:14] <JVFoxy> just a touch over
3 megs for the client... this day and age of bloatware... nice to
see some of the smaller things still making it out there
L264[14:25:23] <Tiron> haha
L265[14:26:09] <JVFoxy> I've another text
based client.. its a touch over 1meg. newer version went up to 20
megs some years back. I've no clue what heck its at now
L266[14:26:16] <Tiron> windows 10 hexchat
app from the MS store... 38.4mb. eesh.
L267[14:26:58] <JVFoxy> thats acutally not
too bad.
L268[14:27:27] <Tiron> yeah. in 2001 it
was! :P
L269[14:27:53] <JVFoxy> considering what
it does. I'd be more worried if its a gig large and all it does is
deal with text connections
L270[14:28:07] <Tiron> umpteen pretty
graphics?
L271[14:28:32] *
Tiron starts streaming his career again, will link if anyone
cares.
L272[14:28:39] <JVFoxy> rwar
L273[14:28:47] <JVFoxy> lol.. text
graphics
L274[14:28:56] <JVFoxy> KSP in ascii
anyone?
L275[14:29:36] <JVFoxy> probably woudln't
mind poking face in, seeing what you got going on
L277[14:30:18] <Tiron> midway through.
Done mun flyby and low orbit, now setting up comm relays.
L278[14:30:38] <JVFoxy> ah twitch.. I no
account there but can view
L279[14:31:32] <Tiron> dat's fine ^.^ I
got this up on my second monitor so I can see what you type
here.
L280[14:32:17] <JVFoxy> oh right.. stupid
low latency issue.. -flips it off
L281[14:32:36] <JVFoxy> If I was going to
stream, probably be via my youtube account
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L283[14:34:27] <JVFoxy> doh.. probably
just me watch'n
L284[14:35:09] <Tiron> yeah I've done that
but more people watch twitch. *shrug*
L285[14:37:40] <JVFoxy> I haven't really
looked into Twitch much... mostly because of being unsure and what
with so many accounts on various things as it is..
L286[14:50:16] <Tiron> mechjeb comment
turn you off? ;)
L287[14:52:12] <JVFoxy> I had to pause,
friend sent in a youtube update about boarding his house over in
FL..
L288[14:52:20] <Tiron> ah.
L289[14:52:28] <Tiron> I accidentally
muted my mic at some point. again. lmao.
L290[14:52:41] <JVFoxy> lets just say,
browser was choking on too may tabs and two videos was causing a
slight issue
L291[14:52:50] <Tiron> can see that.
L292[14:53:07] <Tiron> mine'd be high too,
high res high bitrate. hopefully it's not too muddy...
L293[14:53:32] <JVFoxy> still a few days
out but.. figured since you were trying to sort things out. I kinda
missed your launch mostly
L294[14:53:55] <JVFoxy> was kinda curious
about the vessel viewer window though when I came back
L295[14:57:01] <JVFoxy> I think I messed
with early version of this or something similar but was tied in
with rasterprop, was on screen in IVA...
L296[14:58:21] <JVFoxy> not sure what
other mod I got, if I did, that helped add screens to the command
pods. Then again, this was ages ago too
L297[15:02:10] <JVFoxy> ah ya JSI... I
also had some FASA mod on way earlier version. Just had a look at
some older version I had going from way back
L298[15:03:26] <JVFoxy> gah!
L299[15:03:54] <JVFoxy> ok... found the
version I used tohelp figure out a friend's ship.. soooo many mods
they used. >_<
L300[15:05:41] <JVFoxy> I like to ease
into mods so its not like a shotgun blast, getting so overwhelmed
with a lot of changes at once.
L301[15:05:57] <JVFoxy> Trouble is, game
gotten updates and how infrequently I've been playing the past
while
L302[15:07:04] <JVFoxy> one little add-on
I tried, forgot what it was called though. It helped you create
graphics based on your craft, to use outside the game
L303[15:09:37] <JVFoxy> no.. think I foudn
it, give me a moment to double check
L304[15:10:25] <JVFoxy> ah.. ya there is
the Vessel Viewer...
L305[15:10:39] <JVFoxy> the other hting
I"m looking for though..
L306[15:11:43] <JVFoxy> ah here we go..
Kronal vessel viewer was the one that let you do graphics for
blueprints sorta thing
L307[15:15:38] <JVFoxy> You running
EVE/Astronomer's pack I see?
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L310[15:18:13] <JVFoxy> You running
EVE/Astronomer's pack I see?
L311[15:18:46] <JVFoxy> hmm..
L312[15:18:55] <JVFoxy> I tried to get
clouds on kerbin going but...
L313[15:19:11] <JVFoxy> not sure what
happened, it really caused my game to choke on something
L314[15:19:40] <JVFoxy> looks alright,
think stock game makes it look a bit too high contrast
L315[15:20:21] <JVFoxy> Just wanted clouds
but wasn't sure what gave just that.. I've quad-3.5ghz, though I
kept wondering if my GPU was causing the problems or what i did
wrong
L316[15:21:26] <JVFoxy> Oh.. mmm
L317[15:21:39] <JVFoxy> 8gigs here
L318[15:22:15] <JVFoxy> water retextured I
don't know.. hadn't hat issue myself
L319[15:22:49] <JVFoxy> maybe far.. if it
models water physics different from game
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L321[15:23:12] <JVFoxy> ooof.. anyways, I
gotta afk for a bit.
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L325[15:41:01] <Tiron> EVE does clouds and
citylights. if you delete the citylights module you get just
clouds.
L326[15:44:15] <JVFoxy> think lights can
just be turned off in settings...
L327[15:45:06] <Tiron> probably. I just
deleted the module because... yeah, don't need dat.
L328[15:45:41] <JVFoxy> I did some
fiddling around, feeling can't just get clouds without the
atmosphere thing...
L329[15:45:59] <Tiron> yeah.
L330[15:46:11] <Tiron> they're part of the
same module but you might be able to strip the atmo
L331[15:47:59] <JVFoxy> Maybe... wasn't
too keen on the headache
L332[15:50:01] <Tiron> I'll see if I can
figure it out.
L333[15:53:32] <JVFoxy> its no big deal..
just seems sorta.. 'baren' nothing in the sky is all
L334[15:53:44] <Tiron> I know the
feel.
L335[15:54:15] <JVFoxy> I've been
considering kerbinside possibly for a little project. I've been
wanting to do a polar station build session of sorts.
L336[15:54:23] <Althego> there is no
weather
L337[15:54:28] <Althego> it is just
standard cavok
L338[15:54:29] <Tiron> yeah...
L339[15:55:44] <JVFoxy> I'd originally
thought just stock.. has its own challenges, then I pulled up
airplanes plus. I already been checking out KIS/KAS for a bit.. not
sure if I wanna do snacks/TAC lifesupport in addition
L340[15:56:23] <JVFoxy> lifesupport stuff
more as a means to go out there respply now and then.
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L344[16:01:01] <matthewjd24> hi are there
multiple channels or just this one?
L345[16:02:43] <Tiron> uhhh... there used
to be a 'modders' channel and a FAR channel and stuff but this is
the main one...
L346[16:03:19] <Tiron> 'sup?
L347[16:03:59] <matthewjd24> oh ok I just
didnt want to be using the wrong channel haha
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L349[16:04:45] <JVFoxy> modder channel
still there
L350[16:04:48] <matthewjd24> well I'm
brand new to the forum and I actually can't figure out how to
change my profile picture
L351[16:05:42] <Tiron> well foxy you
missed the WORST. ASCENT. EVAR. caused by not paying
attention.
L352[16:06:02] <JVFoxy> Tiron did it bend
and flex?
L353[16:07:04] <JVFoxy> matthewjd24 did
you try to change it and it just didn't switch over or?
L354[16:07:35] <Tiron> no, that happened
on another flight I clipped out though... no this one I just didn't
pay enough attention to and had to stop it from going back down
into the atmo twice.
L355[16:08:05] <matthewjd24> JVFoxy Is
there some sort of button to change it? If this is I literally
can't find it lol
L356[16:08:56] <JVFoxy> I don't have an
account there myself. Usually you'd find this in your account
settings, given how most forums work
L358[16:09:14] <Tiron> I'd have to look
matt, gimme a minute.
L359[16:09:27] <Tiron> that link I just
posted is 'the saga of the floppy rocket'
L360[16:11:11] <Tiron> matt: you go into
your profile and there's a button on the bottom left of the profile
pic, up in the bar next to your name.
L361[16:11:36] <JVFoxy> Tiron I guess you
forgot to set rigid attachments on your parts ;P
L362[16:11:43] <Tiron> I did.
L363[16:11:54] <JVFoxy> oh... hmm
L364[16:12:00] <Tiron> no I mean I did
forget.
L365[16:12:19] <Tiron> and then the second
time I *did* set it... on some of the parts. not enough. *was still
getting used to that option*
L366[16:12:56] <JVFoxy> my guess? too much
steering control caused by the fins you used..
L367[16:13:04] <matthewjd24> hmm I dont
see a button
L368[16:13:08] <matthewjd24> maybe it's
because I'm new
L369[16:13:09] <Tiron> could be. it
eventually worked.
L371[16:14:41] <JVFoxy> then I noticed how
many sepearators you had going between the sections..
L372[16:14:46] <matthewjd24> yeah that
button just aint there
L373[16:14:47] <Tiron> see up by the name,
there's a little button there (I'm hovering over it to get the
'profile photo' option)
L374[16:14:52] <Tiron> huh. dunno.
L375[16:14:59] <Tiron> *pokes
umbralraptop*
L376[16:15:10] <Tiron> yeah it was
intended to do a MIRV re-entry.
L377[16:15:31] <UmbralRaptop> Guessing
it's related to number of posts
L378[16:15:32] <JVFoxy> matthewjd24 did
you just change your avatar recently?
L379[16:15:34] <Tiron> I rigid connected
the cabins, but not the decouplers or heatshields on the second go
around. it still flopped, but less.
L380[16:15:50] <matthewjd24> haha no
L381[16:15:58] <matthewjd24> it's weird,
but I'm not too concerned about it
L382[16:16:07] <JVFoxy> ok so just blank
avatar then right?
L383[16:16:17] <JVFoxy> and you said you
were new to the forums?
L384[16:16:20] <matthewjd24> yup brand new
account
L385[16:16:52] <JVFoxy> ah.. then you
could just be on a probationary period. Either its a set time limit
or you have to make certain number of posts
L386[16:17:46] <matthewjd24> to change my
profile picture... that's weird
L387[16:17:55] <JVFoxy> one place I used
to go to, you had to make a certain number of postings before it
would let you even private message someone. Not sure if they do
that on KSP forums but just something of heads up
L388[16:19:21] <JVFoxy> I don't know..
maybe there's an introductory page for new comers.
L389[16:20:15] <JVFoxy> some places put
limits on what new comers can do at first, more so that people just
don't come in and spam the place up with randomness, ads or
spam.
L390[16:21:16] <matthewjd24> yeah
L391[16:24:21] <matthewjd24> hey so the
reason I made an account on the forums is because I want to make a
contracts mod
L392[16:24:21] <Tiron> unfortunately I
don't know... it's been so long since I signed up for the
forums.
L393[16:25:38] <JVFoxy> matthewjd24 you
could also check out #kspmodders here
L394[16:26:30] <Tiron> contract mod should
be pretty EZ. most of the game's files, including the contract
stuff, is just XML formatted text files.
L395[16:26:38] <JVFoxy> I probably should
have joined up on the forums ages ago. Get moments where I wanna
share stuff, but guess I'm too lazy and what there being so many
accounts already
L396[16:26:47] <Tiron> yeah I hear
ya.
L397[16:26:57] <Tiron> I get annoyed when
some random site wants me to sign up for it now...
L398[16:26:59] <matthewjd24> yeah I want
to basically redo the contracts progression in the game
L399[16:27:05] <matthewjd24> ill check out
kspmodders
L400[16:28:02] <JVFoxy> I had a few mod
ideas myself, though my coding skills are little and more than just
a bit dated.
L401[16:28:30] <Tiron> hrm... I wonder if
modulemanager can edit the contracts configs...
L402[16:28:40] <matthewjd24> I feel pretty
comfortable about the coding part, I used to make games in
unity
L403[16:28:47] <JVFoxy> ah cool
L404[16:28:53] <JVFoxy> tiron I have a
link.. let me check quickly
L405[16:28:56] <Tiron> well, you're right
at home then!
L406[16:29:15] <matthewjd24> so I might be
doing it wrong but nothing happens when I try to join kspmodders by
clicking on the + button next to EsperNet
L407[16:29:23] <Tiron> my first thought
would be do a modulemanager patch that edits the contracts .cfg,
but I'm not sure.
L408[16:29:30] <Tiron> just type in /join
#kspmodders
L410[16:30:00] <matthewjd24> nothing
happened with that either o.O
L411[16:30:11] <matthewjd24> oh I got
this
L412[16:30:13] <matthewjd24> #kspmodders
Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with
services
L413[16:30:19] <Tiron> ah.
L414[16:30:26] <matthewjd24> man they're
out to get me
L415[16:30:29] <Tiron> do /nickserv
help
L416[16:30:36] <Tiron> you need to set up
a password with it.
L417[16:30:46] <Tiron> reserves your
username so other people can't use it without said password.
L418[16:31:21] <Tiron> once you've got
that and logged in with nickserv, you'll get a +r and can join
it.
L419[16:31:32] <matthewjd24> thanks
L420[16:31:46] <Tiron> you can probably
set up your client to automatically login with nickserv, most of
them do that.
L421[16:31:54] <JVFoxy> ok looking over
the list.. just quickly, don't see any contract mods in there,
sorry
L422[16:33:02] <Tiron> I do. 'disable
kerbal rescue contracts'
L423[16:35:42] <Tiron> matthewjd24: I'd
suggest as a starting point looking at modulemanager. if you can
use a modulemanager patch to do what you want it'll make life
*much* easier.
L424[16:35:59] <matthewjd24> ok
L425[16:36:28] <matthewjd24> do you know
of any good resources on how to do this stuff? :D
L431[16:38:00] <Tiron> that's for MM, for
a start.
L432[16:38:24] <matthewjd24> thanks
man
L433[16:38:28] <Tiron> it's a 'mod' which
can load modifications to existing configuration files on game
load.
L434[16:38:35] <Tiron> without altering
the original files.
L435[16:38:45] <JVFoxy> oh right.. disable
rescue..
L436[16:38:49] <Tiron> mostly used to
fiddle with parts.
L437[16:39:21] <Tiron> but if it can mess
with the contracts files, you'd be able to just throw in the
modulemanager.dll and a .cfg file for it that made the edits you
wanted.
L438[16:39:22] <JVFoxy> lol.. I've moded a
part a while back
L439[16:40:10] <JVFoxy> that rockmax
adaptor part, made a verson fo it into some sort of service section
for the Mk1 crew pod...
L440[16:40:36] <JVFoxy> ugh anyways.. I
need store run.
L441[16:41:50] <JVFoxy> all best..
bbl
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L443[16:44:42] <matthewjd24> can a module
manager patch be used on CKAN?
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L445[16:46:00] <Tiron> probably? I
wouldn't see why not.
L446[16:48:11] <Tiron> just because it's a
two file mod doesn't make it not a mod.
L447[16:49:17] <Tiron> 9 times out of 10,
if the mod has a problem with CKAN, it's probably because the
modder doesn't want to deal with it, and whoever added it to CKAN
did something wrong and caused the modder to get a lot of people
asking why it didn't work.
L448[16:49:41] <matthewjd24> haha
L449[16:51:17] <Tiron> seen it
happen.
L450[16:56:26] <Tiron> eventually modder
figures out the problem is CKAN installing it wrong (because of
incorrect config by the person who put it in CKAN in the first
place) and...
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L460[18:10:26] <JVFoxy> Tiron: hello
again... yes I'm your one viewer C_c;
L461[18:14:43] <JVFoxy> oh ya.. gotta love
that 'automaticlly coming out of warp' when it doesn't exactly work
fast enough. Put one of my probes landing a long way underground.
Exploded from stupid crazy high pressure? Has screen capture.
L462[18:19:46] <JVFoxy> its ok. it only
happened once. I thought it was funny
L463[18:20:20] <JVFoxy> skipped, ya done
that a few times, even when it was suppose to end up
lithobraking
L465[18:22:07] <JVFoxy> what is weird..
1.8mil kpa, crushed everything from pressure, yet amtosphere gauge
didn't even respond
L466[18:22:27] <JVFoxy> :P
L467[18:23:06] <JVFoxy> I know game
calculates things where it'll be, a few steps ahead, not exactly
'here and now'.
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L470[18:24:21] <JVFoxy> think its a little
beyond 2km... not sure what the diffs between in space, or on/near
surface
L471[18:24:51] <JVFoxy> I know with a
'missile' fired from teh craft, engine stops thrusting beyond a
certain distance despite there being fuel. There's a mod that can
exptend the active range
L472[18:26:06] <JVFoxy> depends on how
low. I've had stuff in orbit with as low as 25-28km still keeps
orbiting
L473[18:26:42] <JVFoxy> between steps...
ever seen the vid scott did of seeing how fast he can go towards
jool, only to endup bouncing at 5 times speed light?
L474[18:27:13] <JVFoxy> ya.. seen it,
couple of graple claws
L475[18:27:24] <JVFoxy> oh the neddle..
ya
L476[18:28:47] <JVFoxy> one glitch that
got me really annoyed. I was trying to meet up two ships in early
version KSP, suddenly game is like, 'nope... that toher craft is
now 5 km alway. Here let me yank it away from you now and correct
that'. :\
L478[18:29:29] <kmath> YouTube - Asteroid
Ramming
L479[18:29:50] <JVFoxy> these days...
having some troubles with KAS/KIS and planes on the ground.
L480[18:29:53] <JVFoxy> sorta...
L481[18:31:14] <JVFoxy> mine is more to do
with the FAT-455 wings on planes. Something about sudden shock of
changes, detatching or what nots, everything bounces and blows up.
If its directly on ground, its ok.
L482[18:31:27] <JVFoxy> turns out if I
keep wheel springs/damps on auto, it seems to behave a little
better.
L483[18:32:16] <JVFoxy> I think it
something to do with model reloading and springs acting weird
L485[18:33:28] <JVFoxy> ah.. good ol'
B9
L486[18:34:21] <JVFoxy> I took a probe
core. Added 3 the small landing strut legs. Turned springs down to
zip. It loads, compresses the legs, then pulls 45g off the ground..
o_o
L488[18:37:07] <JVFoxy> I found this thing
can actually ballistic itself up to a little beyond 18km.. so now
I've a way to hit those above contracts
L489[18:37:22] <JVFoxy> just hit this
design by fluke messing around..
L490[18:38:20] <JVFoxy> I did something
similar, box wing, not so many boxes though
L491[18:40:10] <JVFoxy> ah ya.. spring
setting too low
L492[18:41:16] <JVFoxy> oh then could be
dampers..
L493[18:41:24] <JVFoxy> spring up.. try
turning damps up too
L494[18:41:59] <JVFoxy> when you turn up
springs.. what happens when you turn up damps?
L495[18:42:49] <JVFoxy> wonder if any of
the mod's messing with it. small chance not having the arms set to
rigid could also do stuff
L496[18:43:29] <JVFoxy> I used to have
more an issue with level0 wheels blowing up while landing
regardless what I did.. turns out they would 'grab the ground' soon
as they touched and rip off
L497[18:44:22] <JVFoxy> not so big an
issue now though
L498[18:56:18] <JVFoxy> ... sorta, more
just hot and dozy at the moment. :\
L499[18:56:37] <JVFoxy> oh.. right..
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L505[20:22:02] <JVFoxy> Tiron sorry had to
drop off..
L506[20:23:04] <Tiron> if you didn't catch
that, I'm used to it ;)
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L509[20:23:59] <JVFoxy> i was kind of half
watching. wanted to catch up on a couple of videos one of the
youtubers I check in on
L510[20:24:14] <Tiron> NBD.
L511[20:24:15] <JVFoxy> ... derp..
L512[20:24:31] <Tiron> I don't expect you
to watch attentively every second... or at all, tbh.
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L514[20:25:08] <JVFoxy> one of the
youtubers I check in on, but don't follow, posted a bunch of vids,
wanted to catchup on them a little. I noticed when I was following
someone's stream on youtube, things were a bit.. slow
L515[20:25:19] <JVFoxy> well... attention
in two directions but eh
L516[20:25:25] <Tiron> heh ;)
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