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L62[10:14:39] <kmath> YouTube - Will We
Colonize Our Solar System? with Dr. Robert Zubrin
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L65[10:28:27] <JVFoxy> 2+2+5 tourist
contracts.. ugh. and I took them all. Mk3 command pod but not the
matching fuel tanks.. hmm..
L66[10:29:36] <darsie> Multiple destination
tourist contracts are tedious. I don't usually take them.
L67[10:29:41] <JVFoxy> new craft, Trinity,
sorta looks like a motar missile
L68[10:30:20] <JVFoxy> depends.. I probably
didn't really have to but, was something to do while waiting for
night time to roll by.
L69[10:30:38] <JVFoxy> past game, 10 total,
8 wanted mun orbit.
L71[10:31:37] <JVFoxy> Ended up building a
docking station, large cruiser ship. and a couple of surface to
orbit craft
L72[10:32:23] <darsie> You could sort the
tourists by destination, but that fails if they have multiple
destitinations each.
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L74[10:33:14] <ChateauDav> Hi everybody
!
L75[10:33:19] <darsie> High
L76[10:33:35] <JVFoxy> lo
L77[10:33:52] <ChateauDav> best joke !
;)
L78[10:34:12] <darsie> High over Mun
L79[10:36:05] <JVFoxy> .. how high?
L80[10:36:36] <ChateauDav> Is there a
NullReferenceException doctor here ? =)
L81[10:38:57] <JVFoxy> Ah.. a challenge I
sense. Only, its still early in the morning, only just started on
my coffee (and been up since 330am, 5 hours ago)
L82[10:39:46] <JVFoxy> ChateauDav: game
throwing around errors?
L83[10:40:39] <ChateauDav> Sorry, I'm
french it'es 5pm here ;)
L84[10:40:45] <ChateauDav> So yes, and a
lot ^^
L85[10:45:39] <JVFoxy> normal game or with
mods?
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L87[10:48:50] <ChateauDav> mods
L88[10:49:19] <Althego> isnt there
something in the log that hints which mod it is?
L89[10:49:37] <ChateauDav> yes
L90[10:49:48] <Althego> remove mod, problem
solved :)
L91[10:50:06] <JVFoxy> ChateauDav do you
know if your PC is 32 or 64 bit?
L92[10:50:09] <ChateauDav> 64
L93[10:50:16] <JVFoxy> ok one down
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L98[10:52:08] <ChateauDav> This type of
errors
L100[10:52:28] <ChateauDav> with FAR, with
USI-LS too
L101[10:52:47] <JVFoxy> ugh so much log to
go through...
L102[10:53:14] <JVFoxy> I'm hoping, mods
installed through CKAN?
L103[10:54:43] <JVFoxy> ah... issues with
reflection and contract configurer
L104[10:56:30] <ChateauDav> yes all
through CKAN
L105[10:57:09] <ChateauDav> reflection and
contract configurer ? :/ i'm waiting for your analysis, thanks !
=)
L106[11:00:18] <JVFoxy> just something I
caught in the log you posted on the forums.. didn't see any nullref
come up other than the second link you gave
L107[11:00:43] <JVFoxy> according to CKAN,
says there's a conflict with the aerodynamic virtual modelling but
no details
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L109[11:02:10] <JVFoxy> sadly I only used
FAR once, in very early version KSP...
L110[11:02:23] <ChateauDav> lots of
nullref with usi ls too
L111[11:02:34] <ChateauDav> t
LifeSupport.LifeSupportPersistance.SetupSettings () [0x00000] in
<filename unknown>:0
L112[11:03:05] <ChateauDav> setupsettings,
getsettings, updateGUIinfo and onGUi are null ref errors for USL_LS
=(
L113[11:03:07] <JVFoxy> this come up just
after you installed the mods? Not running any games with the mod
currently?
L114[11:03:27] <ChateauDav> that's the 2
major mods thats are throwing nullrefs ^^
L115[11:04:02] <ChateauDav> i don't really
know
L116[11:04:24] <ChateauDav> i supposed
these arror are here for a while
L117[11:04:41] <JVFoxy> long as you don't
have any saved games using it currently. I'd say pull the mods off,
do a test run, see if any other issues come up.
L118[11:06:00] <JVFoxy> I'm not in 1.7.9
myself, and I think it only just came out recently
L119[11:06:20] <ChateauDav> Ok, i'll do
that
L120[11:08:07] <JVFoxy> beyond that,
sorry
L121[11:08:23] <ChateauDav> Thanks ! ;-)
Have a good day
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L123[11:10:03] <JVFoxy> :(
L124[11:10:25] <Althego> 1.7.9?
L125[11:10:29] <Althego> is there an
1.7.9?
L126[11:15:29] <JVFoxy> oh.. ugh, CKAN and
my not being fully awake.
L127[11:15:36] <UmbralRaptop> Latest is
1.7.3. 1.7.9 is a version check that some mods do
L128[11:16:16] <JVFoxy> ya... I just saw
1.7.99, not realizing it was 'version up to' combatiblity
thing
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L130[11:19:54] <JVFoxy> i've a copy of
first early public release for ksp on file for the past few years.
Wanna record my impression on it after so many years of current
KSP... or something
L131[11:21:48] <UmbralRaptop>
0.7.something I assume?
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L134[11:26:06] <JVFoxy> ya.. 0.7.3
L135[11:26:22] <JVFoxy> I've heard a few
things about it..
L136[11:32:04] <UmbralRaptop> Just be
aware that fuel flow doesn't exist, so you need 2 stages to get to
orbit
L137[11:34:59] <JVFoxy> I think no
symmetry or mirroring, if there is even surface mounting.
L138[11:35:20] <JVFoxy> by no fuel flow...
as in, fuel only goes from one tank to engine, can't stack
tanks?
L139[11:37:23] <UmbralRaptop>
correct
L140[11:38:12] <UmbralRaptop> Surface
mounting I think exists, but is turned off in the for the fuel
tank's CFG file
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L145[11:46:09] <Eddi|zuHause> you put
1.7.99 if you say "i'm fairly confident that it won't break
any time soon, and i can't be bothered to update whenever there's a
new version"
L146[11:47:53] <JVFoxy> so.. lots of
engines with equal amounts of tanks...
L147[12:05:31] <UmbralRaptop> The
tricoupler helps, but IIRC it's not perfectly symmetrical
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L149[12:09:33] <JVFoxy> long as its not
too far off... I already know the game at that point isn't exactly
'polished'
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L151[12:10:16] <JVFoxy> been dealing with
pefeclty mirrored planes not holding level for a long time
so...
L152[12:11:36] <Althego> hehe yes they
alweays roll
L153[12:11:57] <Althego> and in my
experience not even dihedral angle helps
L154[12:14:14] <JVFoxy> setting things to
rigid connections helps some..
L155[12:14:35] <Althego> i usually
autostrut the wings
L156[12:15:10] <JVFoxy> originally I
thought when you mirrored some parts with body lift, the lift
itself didn't get mirrored properly
L157[12:15:24] <Althego> now that i was
checking lift
L158[12:15:36] <Althego> actually
sometimes the lift is reported negative
L159[12:15:44] <Althego> because the wing
is upside down
L160[12:15:55] <Althego> but you cant see
that when you put it on in the editor
L161[12:16:44] <JVFoxy> actually, some
cases, depending on what you do, like offsetting a mirrored part
will cause it to go into radial orientation
L162[12:17:41] <JVFoxy> more so when you
revert flight back to VAB/SPH, and try offsetting a mirrored
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L164[12:20:22] <JVFoxy> I find it weird
when you put a part on the surface with mirror, like the material
science bay, it'll face out on one side, and in against the body on
the other.
L165[12:21:03] <Althego> yes, really
annoying
L166[12:21:11] <Althego> the only way
around it to put it on without symmetry
L167[12:21:21] <Althego> ok now you
finally have the remove symmetry option
L168[12:25:11] <JVFoxy> I've yet to mess
with that but know of it
L169[12:25:41] <Althego> it is essentially
for dual props
L170[12:26:14] <Althego> or maybe not,
because i can just put them on separately
L171[12:26:15] <JVFoxy> sigh.. props.
shame that isn't stock game
L172[12:26:28] <Althego> yes
L173[12:27:17] <JVFoxy> I've learned a few
work arounds.. though its not common for me to need them..
much
L174[12:27:57] <JVFoxy> multiple radial
parts, at least you can still put just put a part on one of the
radial points
L175[12:28:28] <JVFoxy> any case... I go
poof for a bit.
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L184[14:03:48] <Althego> scott
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L187[14:23:07] <Althego> touch an
asteroid
L188[14:23:46] <UmbralRaptop> *boop*
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L194[15:09:13] <packbart> asteroid petting
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