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L31[03:56:26] <JVFoxy> nice commuter
plane.. not so nice slow roll to one side. Despite autostrut
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L39[04:46:25] <Black_Eagle> alright, it's
done
L40[04:46:35] <Black_Eagle> I made a FAB-1
from Thunderbirds
L42[04:54:32] <Black_Eagle> there ya
go
L43[05:01:01] <Mat2ch> you should change
the light colors of the backlights to red ;)
L44[05:02:08] <Black_Eagle> they are
L45[05:02:23] <Black_Eagle> but KSP can't
do red lights in the bulb itself
L46[05:02:40] <Black_Eagle> that's why i
clipped in the twitch engines in there
L47[05:03:00] <Black_Eagle> but the light
cone they give off *is* red
L48[05:22:29] <packbart> there was some
Surface Mounted Lights mod that could also change the lens color on
the stock Illuminators, iirc
L50[05:25:45] <Althego> url is not
working
L51[05:25:49] <Althego> the imgur
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L54[05:31:31] <Black_Eagle> oh
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L57[05:36:06] <Black_Eagle> weighs 10t :D
what a car (the "real" one is 3t)
L58[05:36:51] <Black_Eagle> Althego ^ does
that work?
L59[05:37:53] <Mat2ch> Black_Eagle: ugh, in
the back of my mind I had the thought that they turn red. But
you're right.
L60[05:38:09] <Mat2ch> those little things,
nobody seems to care about at Squad hq
L61[05:40:34] <Black_Eagle> hehe
L62[05:41:42] <Black_Eagle> it's not
particularly fast, though. 40 m/s max speed although 144 km/h makes
more sense with cars
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L71[06:48:44] <Mat2ch> Black_Eagle: 144
km/h is not fast ;)
L72[06:49:21] <Mat2ch> fast is 180 km/h in
a Ford Fiesta from 1990. That's when you start to believe in
something and pray ;)
L73[06:54:43] <packbart> my 1994-ish
Mitsubishi Lancer would reach 190km/h given enough time and not
going uphill
L74[06:55:16] <Mat2ch> the Lancer has a
much better directional stability...
L75[06:55:46] <Mat2ch> around 160 km/h the
Fiesta started to jump(!) around a bit, because it was so light and
every bump would lift it up...
L77[06:56:05] <Mat2ch> 180 down the hill
was scary. Never did it again...
L78[06:57:08] <Mat2ch> can you imagine that
they put a 133 HP machine in a Fiesta? That's a driving
coffin...
L79[06:57:24] <packbart> oh, ok, yeah. the
lancer had ~75hp or so
L80[06:58:54] <darsie> The wind started to
pull the doors of my Renault 4 out at 140 km/h :).
L81[06:59:20] <Mat2ch> :D
L82[06:59:34] <Mat2ch> back to work
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L84[07:11:11] <Black_Eagle> -.-
L85[07:11:15] <Black_Eagle> seriously
L86[07:11:26] <Black_Eagle> but hey, your
fiesta doesn't weigh 10 tons
L87[07:13:29] <Mat2ch> Woah
L88[07:13:32] <Mat2ch> 10 tons?
L89[07:13:52] <Mat2ch> dang, I wanted to
get back to do some work. ;)
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L96[08:02:28] <Black_Eagle> Mat2ch yeah :D
idk some of the shapes were really difficult to reproduce so i had
to use lots of parts to fill them up. also there's quite a lot of
fuel in that thing. it runs on fuel cells for power and the junos
also contribute both to weight and extra fuel
L98[08:11:38] <Gasher[work]> lol
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L101[08:16:00] <darsie> Hmm, now what was
it I wanted to try ...?
L102[08:16:37] <darsie> Right. Try landing
with a drogue chute on Kerbin ...
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L104[08:21:15] <JVFoxy> darsie: nice disco
ball
L105[08:21:33] <darsie> :)
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L107[08:22:41] <JVFoxy> ever managed to
crash something with overpressure?
L108[08:22:49] <JVFoxy> ever managed to
get it over 1.8million kpa?
L109[08:23:54] <JVFoxy> looking at my
'oddness' screen shots, somehow I managed to get a thing nearly
120km under ground. I'm going to guess game didn't catch on I was
warping
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L112[08:27:38] <darsie> JVFoxy: Descending
at
L113[08:27:45] <darsie> JVFoxy: Descending
at Jool usually does that.
L114[08:27:49] <JVFoxy> thought maybe I
had another glitch to do with cooking on reentry
L115[08:28:12] <JVFoxy> darsie: funny
thing was.. I hit kerbin
L116[08:28:27] <darsie> IIRC even cubic
struts succumb to overpressure.
L117[08:31:45] <JVFoxy> I think just about
anything will succumb to 1.8million kpa
L118[08:32:12] <darsie> not irl
L120[08:34:09] <darsie> Some solids will
change crystal structure.
L121[08:34:36] <JVFoxy> ok.. funky.. I see
imgur changed up their style a little
L122[08:35:37] <JVFoxy> Manley talk'n
about metalic hydrogen..?
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L124[08:36:32] <packbart> astronomers have
a different definition of "metallic"
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L126[08:37:07] <darsie> Hydrogen being one
of the two things that are not metals.
L127[08:38:12] <UmbralRaptor> metallic
hydrogen uses the chemist definition. it's fine
L128[08:41:09] <Black_Eagle> have you
heard of Zero X ? (from Thunderbirds)
L129[08:41:33] <darsie> no
L130[08:41:47] <darsie> Can you eat
it?
L131[08:42:09] <packbart> I hadn't even
heard of Thunderbids. Looks a bit like Fireball XL5
L132[08:43:51] <packbart> ah no wonders,
same producers
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L137[09:09:11] <Eddi|zuHause> there is
supposed to be metallic hydrogen in the core of jupiter
L138[09:09:44] <Mat2ch> Metallic?
L139[09:10:00] <sandbox_> The first manned
craft to land on Mars, the metallic-blue Zero-X comprises a number
of detachable sections.
L140[09:10:11] <sandbox_> metallic
;p
L141[09:10:15] <UmbralRaptor> the Fermi
level is above the conduction band, yes
L142[09:11:29] <sandbox_> I liked
Terrahawks in my youth, but I imagine it looks terrible now
L143[09:11:50] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm
imagining something like mercury, but at extreme pressures...
L144[09:13:40] <Eddi|zuHause>
<sandbox_> The first manned craft to land on Mars, the
metallic-blue Zero-X comprises a number of detachable sections.
<-- i'm imagining some committee meeting like "we haven't
figured out almost any technically difficult engineering
challenges. but let's bikeshed the colour instead"
L145[09:14:42] <packbart> metallic-blue
symbolizes futuristic hope
L146[09:14:46] *
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L148[09:28:05] <JVFoxy> I don't know...
metallic-blue just looks nice
L149[09:32:08] <sandbox_> hehe The crew
managed to escape and two years later a second Zero-X craft
successfully reached Mars in September 2067.[citation needed]
L151[09:33:13] <JVFoxy> impact tolerances?
You'd figure engines were more delicate
L152[09:34:15] <packbart> you can even
ignite engines with their bells planted firmly on the ground
L153[09:34:52] <JVFoxy> early creations,
you launch straight from engine bell on ground.
L154[09:36:32] <darsie> Stages are often
connected via engine bells ...
L155[09:37:14] <darsie> Well, there are
shrouds, but if you use inline fairings and remove the shroud, the
connection is to the bell.
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L157[09:41:19] <packbart> well, I'm glad I
don't have to deal too much with sensitive rocket motors in
KSP
L158[09:41:20] <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't
really found a use for a drogue chute
L159[09:42:27] <JVFoxy> Ah.. apollo 15,
the extension on the bell hit the moon's surface, crumpling it a
little
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L162[09:57:02] <packbart> that would've
been similar to the Wolfhound engine in KSP? huge bell, although 7
of them fit under a 5m engine plate
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L173[10:14:27] <packbart> I'd like to,
anyway. Minmus keeps getting in the way
L174[10:14:30] *
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L177[10:23:08] <JVFoxy> wolfhound engine?
-goes look
L178[10:24:52] <JVFoxy> I guess... the J
series apollo landers were heavier, so they included a 10 inch bell
extension in compisation
L179[10:40:45] <Black_Eagle>
<packbart> metallic-blue symbolizes futuristic hope <-- I
just watched the 1966 film Thunderbirds are Go in which the craft
Zero-X is featured
L180[10:42:24] <Black_Eagle> I have to
say... a lot of the stuff is spot on. They use ramjets in the
lifting bodies, the lifting bodies are remotely controlled. The
main body has some chemical rockets and finally the crew capsule
doubles as a gigantic rover that can land and lift off from Mars in
a single stage
L181[10:43:06] <Black_Eagle> the fuel
requirements for landing and SSTO'ing on Mars it's actually a
pretty sensible craft
L182[10:44:02] <Black_Eagle> oh and they
dock a man in a regular old helmet mid air at Mach 1 but hey, maybe
men are tougher in 2067
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L184[10:44:48] <Black_Eagle> I quite like
the thing. it makes a lot of sense as a concept. I think they did
their homework pretty well
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L187[10:47:59] <APlayer> o/
L188[10:49:17] <FLHerne> Black_Eagle: And
the incendiary-cannon rock snakes?
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L197[11:12:14] <Althego> hmm, scott
L198[11:13:11] <Black_Eagle> FLHerne: have
you ever landed on Duna? That's what i thought
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L201[11:30:32] <Mat2ch> Duna is so easy...
except when you neither bring enough chutes nor enough
fuel...
L202[11:30:55] <Althego> you need one
orange chute and a littel bit of fuel
L203[11:31:06] <Mat2ch> depends on the
craft. ;)
L204[11:31:22] <Althego> anyway the
solution on duna is not adding more chutes
L205[11:31:43] <Althego> bleed off speed,
and the remaining 60 or so you have to stop with engines instead of
adding more chutes
L206[11:32:41] <UmbralRaptor> Just like
Phoenix and Insight?
L207[11:33:51] <Mat2ch> well, on some of
my approaches I might have come in too steep.
L208[11:34:07] <Mat2ch> a shallow approach
is the best way to get down
L209[11:36:10] <umaxtu_mobile> whats the
best altitude for aerobraking around Duna?
L210[11:41:17] <Althego> that really
depends on your drag
L211[11:41:30] <Althego> i control the
drag with attitude
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L214[11:48:50] <darsie> Odd. The Spark has
7 m/s impact tolerance, the okto2 12 m/s, yet the spark survived 20
m/s and the okto2 exploded at 10 m/s, IIRC.
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L218[11:57:52] <Ezriilc> I feel silly for
asking this, but is there no Making History for 1.7.2 yet, and is
there no Breaking Ground for 1.7.1?
L219[11:58:51] <Althego> hehe i didint
update yet because of the career gane
L220[11:58:58] <Ezriilc> I'm cleaning up
my installs, but could've sworn I had both expansions running
together.
L221[11:59:03] <Althego> i assumed the
dlcs work with 1.72 too
L222[11:59:42] <umaxtu_mobile> it seems
to
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L225[12:00:42] <Ezriilc> On the store, the
versions are referenced very specifically, and Breaking Ground says
it's for 1.7.2, and there's no 1.7.1, and there's no Making History
for 1.7.2.
L226[12:01:44] <Ezriilc> @APlayer ?
L227[12:02:17] <APlayer> Sorry, I am
really not the correct one to ask about KSP stuff these days
:-(
L228[12:02:36] <Ezriilc> Oh, that's
fine.
L229[12:02:50] <APlayer> Last time I used
KSP was a month or so ago, and last time before that was easily
half a year or more. And I am still on 1.3.something
L230[12:03:08] <Ezriilc> Oh dear.
lol
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L237[12:23:20] *
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L238[12:23:33] <Ezriilc> Red Button:
Please don't press this button again.
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L240[12:24:18] *
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L241[12:25:18] <Ezriilc> Ha! I hadn't
thought of that, but many industrial type machines are started by
just that - pulling out on the stop button, which is commonly
red.
L242[12:26:51] <UmbralRaptop> :D
L243[12:27:30] <Ezriilc> Does anyone else
get odd behavior with regard to KSP not being at the
proper/expected magnification on Windows 10?
L244[12:27:32] <darsie> Just a 1 kg cubic
octagonal strut on drogue chute exploded on 8.7 m/s impact.
L245[12:28:19] <darsie> Coludn't attach a
drogue chute alone to an axial decoupler.
L246[12:28:27] <Ezriilc> It seems that the
first time I launch KSP, it is not magnified, but if I kill KSP and
relaunch, it seems fine... sometimes.
L247[12:30:43] <Ezriilc> I'm getting old
and my peepers ain't what they used to be, so I like the text and
UI to be large, but still want the full HD experience. I was glad
to see Windows add the magnification option, but it seems to play
havok with some apps.
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L257[13:01:32] <kmath> YouTube - Fireball
XL5 (1962) Opening Theme HD
L258[13:01:48] <packbart> rocket sled,
pointing upwards
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L260[13:02:30] <Althego> too low twr
:)
L261[13:12:28] <flayer> had a ticket for
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L264[13:26:47] <Black_Eagle> pacbard
ahahah that's a wonderful sled solution
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spacetime: last time we talked about all the cool elements that get
made when neutron stars collide. your comments were gold :)
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L308[18:57:49] <Great98> Hello
L309[18:58:37] <Great98> anybody have an
idea for how much delta-v I should save for a rocket-powered
landing on kerbin from Minmus?
L310[18:59:46] <UmbralRaptop> Depends on
craft design, but unless aerobraking is a nonoption, not a huge
amount. 200-400 m/s?
L311[19:00:10] <UmbralRaptop> Much less if
you can have a drogue chute or the like
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L313[19:02:24] <UmbralRaptop> If the craft
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L317[19:18:39] <Great98> gojira 2 from
tundra. I should have enough if I aerobrake well.
L318[19:19:06] <Great98> if not, there are
only 2 kerbals onboard so one can parachute out
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L325[19:49:46] <Great98> and splashdown,
bye
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