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L1[00:20:53] <GlassYuri> UmbralRaptop,
umaxtu_mobile,
L2[00:21:18] <GlassYuri> wouldn't a
smartphone have more delta V than a desktop due to the
battery?
L3[00:22:03] <GlassYuri> (sorry for the
newline, too used to slacks shift-enter to send)
L5[00:22:40] <Rolf> desktop has unlimited
delta but limited range
L6[00:22:59] <Rolf> phone has limited delta
but unlimited range
L7[00:23:44] <GlassYuri> Rolf, how does a
desktop generate thrust?
L8[00:24:02] <Althego> fans
L9[00:24:40] <Rolf> yep lol
L10[00:24:52] <GlassYuri> battery explosion
works in a vacuum
L11[00:25:25] <Rolf> phone could do it with
extremely tiny ion engine
L12[00:25:35] <Rolf> it might take 100
years to go anywhere but yeah
L13[00:25:36] <Althego> hehe
L14[00:25:47] <Althego> an engine for
ant
L15[00:25:48] <Althego> s
L16[00:27:43] <Rolf> i tried rocket with
that alt
L17[00:27:55] <Rolf> it had many many tiny
engines (not ion)
L18[00:28:28] <Rolf> body overheated by all
those trusters and exploded. made a cylinder pattern floating
engines thats still firing and cone on top. lol
L19[00:28:33] <Rolf> yes, it was quite
laggy
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L40[05:17:08] <Althego> toonstruck free on
gog
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L46[06:16:31] <Althego> hmm, falcon heavy
in about 9.5 days
L47[06:17:07] <Althego> but why use the
heavy for a rideshare mission
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L49[06:19:36] <Zephros> can't wait for that
launch. The last launch was awesome. Lets hope this launch doesn't
fail.
L50[06:19:50] <Althego> too bad they lost
the core
L51[06:19:57] <Althego> because of waves
lol
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L54[06:26:17] <Mat2ch> Althego: sometimes
the money is already payed ;)
L55[06:26:23] <flayer> althego: people
getting a cheap ride?
L56[06:26:33] <flayer> for what is
essentially a test flight?
L57[06:26:46] <flayer> or publicity?
L58[06:26:54] <Althego> must be that
L59[06:26:55] <Mat2ch> and mainly this: The
mission will support the U.S. Air Force National Security Space
Launch (formerly EELV) certification process for the Falcon
Heavy
L61[06:27:07] <flayer> there you go
L62[06:27:40] <Mat2ch> Launching a test
payload didn't cut it somehow
L63[06:29:44] <flayer> oh wow, they're
re-using the boosters from the previous flight?
L64[06:30:10] <flayer> that's a pretty
quick launch-check-relaunch relatively speaking isn't it?
L65[06:30:20] <Althego> that is the whole
idea behind the falcon 9
L66[06:30:39] <flayer> yeah, but it's
looking like progress
L67[06:30:45] <Althego> currently they
could probably relaunch within days
L68[06:31:34] <Althego> every time with the
falcon heavy when the separation happens i think they smash into
the core and explode ksp style :)
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L70[06:41:53] <Black_Eagle> is there an air
speed tolerance limit for kerbals (other than heating)?
L71[06:42:14] <Black_Eagle> i.e. if i make
a really fast rover will the kerbals get krakenated
L72[06:42:24] <Althego> i didnt notice
anything aside from them falling off
L73[06:43:24] <Black_Eagle> what speed is
that?
L74[06:43:34] <Althego> probably dynamic
opressure, not speed
L75[06:44:17] <Black_Eagle> sounds like
practical testing time
L76[06:44:26] <Althego> well below speed of
sound at sea level, but probably not applicable for command seats,
sincs they are not controllable at that point
L77[06:45:04] <Althego> but they do fall
off from laddes and cocpits when they hang on them
L78[06:46:55] <Black_Eagle> 100 m/s sound
like a doable number on a command seat?
L79[06:47:03] <Althego> probably way
more
L80[06:47:18] <Black_Eagle> good
L81[06:47:57] <Althego> that is racing car
speed. not that you cant do several times of the speed of sound on
the ice fields
L82[06:50:06] <Black_Eagle> i want to do a
model of a car and the spec sheet says 200mph to 300mph on land.
i'd say that's about 100m/s since the rover wheels i will be using
will break after that
L83[06:50:24] <Althego> a bit more
L84[06:51:08] <Black_Eagle> TR-2L says
100m/s for tolerance
L85[06:51:18] <Black_Eagle> or does that
mean impact tolerance? idk, idc
L86[06:51:30] <Black_Eagle> should be ok,
might delete later
L87[06:52:21] <Althego> but they cant spin
that fast
L88[06:52:24] <Althego> on their own
L89[06:52:39] <Althego> you need some jet
powe
L90[06:52:40] <Althego> r
L91[06:53:10] <Black_Eagle> yes. that will
be a problem unless i somehow cram a juno in there somewhere
L92[06:57:02] <Althego> kerbals are fine at
200 m/s in their seats :)
L93[06:59:26] <Althego> fine at 400
L94[06:59:31] <Althego> the runway was
destroyed though
L95[07:01:32] <Black_Eagle> hahah not
planning to go that fast!
L97[07:03:11] <Althego> the "car"
was destroyed, the runway was destroyed, but jeb is just
smiling
L98[07:03:19] <Althego> should have turned
him around
L100[07:05:46] <kmath> YouTube - Cool Guys
Don't Look At Explosions
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L126[11:34:25] <Althego> haha no man's sky
is 50% off and still 30 eur
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L128[11:40:28] <UmbralRaptop> uh
L129[11:40:49] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, GOG
is doing another free game thing
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L132[11:57:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably
wouldn't even buy it at 75% off
L133[11:58:31] <Althego> that was my
point, it has way too high price
L134[11:58:44] <Althego> but toonstruck
for free should be good
L135[11:59:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i've got
exactly two responses from telling people about that... "i
don't have a gog account" and "i just take the CD that i
have and use that"
L136[11:59:51] <Althego> i am the reverse,
i dont have a steam account
L137[12:00:02] <Althego> but gog is almost
as good as a cd, you can own the games there
L138[12:00:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i have an
old gog account that i can't access anymore due to 2-factor
auth
L139[12:00:54] <Eddi|zuHause> cause that
email doesn't work anymore
L140[12:01:02] <Althego> strange, i had
this one for many years and i dont have any issues
L141[12:01:54] <Althego> i own my email
account too :)
L142[12:02:01] <Althego> yes, i apy for
it
L143[12:02:24] <Eddi|zuHause> it was my
old university account
L144[12:02:34] <Eddi|zuHause> and they
shut that old server down a while back
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L148[12:28:13] <Eddi|zuHause> was it a
good idea to write to gog customer support in german?
L149[12:30:10] <Althego> hehe
L150[12:30:12] <Althego> maybe
L151[12:35:11] <Tank2333> i think they
know what google translate is
L152[12:48:04] <Althego> this rumored 1903
update doesnt seem to get to me
L153[12:48:11] <Althego> (windows)
L154[12:54:13] <Eddi|zuHause> the last
time i tried installing windows 10, it just plain told me
"nope, i don't run on this computer"
L155[12:54:25] <Eddi|zuHause> after like 2
hours of installing
L156[12:54:50] <Althego> hehehe
L157[12:55:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i couldn't
actually figure out why...
L158[12:56:35] <sandbox> that's about the
level of their error messages now
L159[12:56:50] <Althego> but hey added a
smiley face to the bsod
L160[12:56:52] <sandbox> "nope, i
don't run on this computer :("
L161[12:57:29] <sandbox> typed that before
you said
L162[12:57:52] <Althego> wait, it was
literally that much it said?
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L167[14:35:14] <Eddi|zuHause> yes. that
was literally it
L168[14:36:48] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it
might have been something like "windows cannot be configured
on this computer. rebooting now..."
L169[14:39:38] <darsie> When I optimize a
future maneuver from LKO to solar orbit and try to maximize
apoapsis by adjusting departure time, these back and forth changes
decrease apoapsis a little. It's significant if you have a close
encounter, e.g. with Duna.
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L171[14:40:21] <darsie> Changing stuff
back and forth gives in a one way result change both
directions.
L172[14:40:26] <Althego> i have a 20
minute gap in nodes and i cant come up with anything to do there,
so i am stuck
L173[14:41:01] <darsie> Do the time
warp?
L174[14:41:10] <Althego> then i lose 20
minutes
L175[14:41:36] <darsie> Of
productivity?
L176[14:41:53] <darsie> Take a nap.
L177[14:42:20] <Althego> probably going to
switch between 2 crafts to see if i can catch a biome in high
altitude with th gravity thing
L178[14:42:26] <JVFoxy> got relay in orbit
of mun.. hoping to use it to cover backside of mun for another
craft but not sure on timing it right
L179[14:43:52] <darsie> JVFoxy: You can
get the time from a maneuver node set n orbits into the
future.
L180[14:44:56] <darsie> Doing a little
orbital change now will accumulate a large time/location change for
the future node.
L181[14:46:59] <JVFoxy> darsie: going to
see what its like when I launch at day break.. mostly cuz of light
for recording for later.
L182[14:47:15] <JVFoxy> but ya.. suppose I
could set target, see what happens.
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L185[15:00:56] <JVFoxy> daytime launch
shows promise...
L186[15:01:08] <JVFoxy> though seems
change to my RCS setup got a little boogered up
L187[15:04:50] <JVFoxy> ugh ok faffing
around, finally got them setup right
L188[15:08:50] <Ezriilc> Strange question:
Does anyone know if any parts of the old "Algol 68"
programming language is used in or referenced in KSP?
L189[15:09:04] <Ezriilc> Possibly in
Unity?
L190[15:09:45] <Althego> use grep?
L191[15:10:14] <Ezriilc> I don't actually
know how I would do that, and I'm on a Winderz box.
L192[15:10:24] <Althego> hehe
L193[15:11:37] <Althego> doesnt seem to be
in the text
L194[15:12:01] <Ezriilc> I'm trying to use
an encounter with what appears to be an edje case of a KSP save
file in "text/Algol68" mime format.
L195[15:12:18] <Ezriilc> I'm trying to use
it as a teaching moment and learn from it.
L196[15:21:19] <Eddi|zuHause> algol 68 is
like the grandfather of 95% of all modern programming
languages
L197[15:25:57] <JVFoxy> ooof... look'n up
Algol 68 took me to ICL and picture of data storage system. Imagine
retro space, launching with computers that use data storage in
drums
L198[15:27:05] <JVFoxy> or massive flat
cylinder type things.. think some rockets actually used drum
storage for data and stuff back in the early days
L199[15:44:45] <Eddi|zuHause> the first
rocket computers used ROM-storage that was weaved by hand
L200[15:45:06] <Althego> rope memory, has
seen use in the apollo program too
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L202[15:47:07] <JVFoxy> ASC-15 used drum
memory but was more for Titan rockets and Saturn I
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L204[15:52:35] <JVFoxy> Mind you, Shuttle
used core memory for engine control, then switched off it at some
point in the middle of the program.
L205[15:55:25] <JVFoxy> at least from what
I remember, trying to find the article, think was when I was
researching info on shuttle computer systems. Any case, haven't
time to do more a search, gotta run
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L207[15:55:49] <Althego> i wonder what
spacex uses :)
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L209[15:57:46] <Guest53814> Hi. Anyone
knows how to make the Telemachus cameras work? The
telemachus/cameras endpoint is empty even if I add a bunch of
cameras to my vessel
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Ezriilc is intruiged and satisfied at how a question about some
archaic programming language evolved into something about rocket
science.
L212[16:06:53] <Ezriilc> Loving this
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L221[16:44:21] <Guest53814> Hello?
L222[16:52:31] <darsie> .
L223[16:57:08] <UmbralRaptop> Guest53814:
It's possible that none of us currently online are sufficiently
knowledgeable about Telemachus to answer the question
L224[17:16:16] <packbart> I've read about
it. I use kRPC but that doesn't have video streaming
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L235[18:20:09] <Guest53814> Is there any
other mod that streams video via web? I can't find any
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L241[18:54:47] <packbart> random piece of
debris unexpectedly crashed into the Mun, generated some 300
science points. that's nice
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