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L1[00:17:59] <Althego> lol
L2[00:20:43] <Rolf> guess guy wanted to see
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L12[03:04:19] <Eddi|zuHause> "guess
guy" reminds me of a thing i watched about 5 years ago
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L18[04:53:38] <kmath> YouTube - 3 Parts to
Duna, Ike AND Minmus! | Stock KSP 1.7
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L23[05:14:47] <Althego> high g contracts
are just dumb
L24[05:15:24] <Rolf> do you reach goals
still on ground?
L25[05:15:29] <Rolf> if not, I dare
you
L26[05:18:12] <JVFoxy> which high g?
L27[05:18:20] <Althego> the issue is, the
game takes only linear acceleration of the craft into account,
rotational forces are not working
L28[05:18:21] <JVFoxy> if its that stupid
sub orbital high g one... ugh
L29[05:18:38] <Althego> and if i want such
high gs, it is simply not worth it
L30[05:18:45] <Althego> like 7k for one
tourist
L31[05:18:59] <JVFoxy> althego: ya... I
stuck a g sensor on one end of a rotating beam. It only accounts
for how much shift on teh center of gravity.
L32[05:19:07] <JVFoxy> but.. if it was
disconnected, it'll read
L33[05:19:51] <JVFoxy> I don't mind the
regular flight ones... its the 'into space high g' like the sub
orbital..
L34[05:22:24] <JVFoxy> another 'dumb
contract'? Test landing wheels on suborbital flight... eh...
L35[05:22:41] <JVFoxy> er... no
wait...
L36[05:22:54] <JVFoxy> on escape
trajectory..
L37[05:23:17] <Althego> hehe the aero flip
over saved it
L38[05:23:43] <Althego> put a mainsail on a
small tank, and as it flipped over that gave the final kick
L39[05:23:54] <JVFoxy> lol
L40[05:24:01] <JVFoxy> I usually just went
with planes big wings
L41[05:24:20] <JVFoxy> or my cheetah..
sorta looks like kerbalized learjet
L42[05:24:49] <Rolf> Althego: 7k g?
L43[05:25:01] <Althego> 7k funds for
success
L44[05:25:05] <Rolf> do they scrape tourist
kerbial
L46[05:25:07] <Althego> g is whatever the
kerbal limit is
L47[05:25:41] <Rolf> you said high g, then
7k for one lol
L48[05:25:46] <Rolf> made me think 7k
g
L49[05:26:11] <Althego> at least i finally
activated the mainsail. i am going to need it soon
L50[05:26:43] <JVFoxy> guessing you used a
probe core for that high g?
L52[05:26:57] <Rolf> does g have
timer?
L53[05:27:01] <Rolf> say must be 5
minutes
L54[05:27:05] <JVFoxy> not a challenge if
you also gotta make sure you don't also knock out jeb
L55[05:27:29] <JVFoxy> oh just realized
something...
L56[05:27:38] <Rolf> if not, just have tons
of huge engines and tiny fuel tank
L57[05:27:51] <Rolf> it would reach very
higfh g for short time and run out of fuek
L58[05:28:00] <JVFoxy> ever tried a small
structural part with landing struts. tune down spring and dampeners
to 0.. launch. watch it compress and spring into the air?
L59[05:28:14] <JVFoxy> think a few tests I
did pulled something like 50gs right off the ground
L60[05:28:22] <JVFoxy> mind you... a bit
cheaty
L61[05:28:51] <Rolf> lol fun
L62[05:29:59] <Althego> the high g
indicator has a bar, and it starts to fill up when high g condition
is met
L63[05:30:08] <Althego> kerbal passes out
when the bar is at max
L64[05:30:15] <Althego> cant control the
craft then
L65[05:30:32] <JVFoxy> also dosen't happen
instantly.. takes a certain 'saturation' of high g
L66[05:30:33] <Althego> i normally use
probe cores for everyhing. less mass
L67[05:31:04] <JVFoxy> thigh the highest I
pulled was 106g...
L68[05:31:51] <Althego> hehe spring
launched
L69[05:32:20] <JVFoxy> lol.. sound like
you've tried the little 'cheaty' thing?
L70[05:32:33] <Rolf> im not sure of how
much g i ever pulled, but I am pretty sure my old plane snowflake
pulled huge gs
L71[05:32:40] <Rolf> of course its uber
cheaty
L72[05:33:01] <JVFoxy> er well the spring
thing wasn't 106g... that was in robotic plane or something
L73[05:35:13] <packbart> 4 telescopic arms
extending at once only gave about 2+g
L74[05:36:30] <JVFoxy> ya... not sure if
you put everything rigid connection, autostrut it all, how much Gs
those connections could sustain.. I know its not a lot without,
it'll elastic a bit before blowing up
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L76[05:41:23] <Rolf> eh 50 engines tiny
tank ;)
L77[05:41:47] <Rolf> have lwn chair on
top
L78[05:41:51] <Rolf> lawn
L79[05:42:12] <JVFoxy> ah but which
engines?
L80[05:42:12] <Rolf> have disconnectable
pilot pod by it. get tourist out of it and walk to lawn chair
L81[05:42:19] <Rolf> pilot chills while big
engines launch
L82[05:42:45] <Rolf> 50 engines it almost
dont matter as long as its good on lower atomsphere
L83[05:43:05] <JVFoxy> oh.. it matters. we
talk'n sparks or mainsails?
L84[05:43:33] <Rolf> dunno what those mean
lol
L85[05:44:18] <JVFoxy> spark tiny engine..
mainsail is one of the really big ones. Though not biggest
L86[05:45:03] <Rolf> ahh lol
L87[05:45:12] <Rolf> I made rocket using
only tiny ones
L88[05:45:31] <Rolf> flew up for while then
it exploded,body only
L89[05:45:48] <Rolf> left tiny engines in
cylinder shaped pattern and pilot cockpot on top
L90[05:45:57] <Rolf> it fell apart
afterwards lol
L91[05:46:04] <JVFoxy> ah
L92[05:46:08] <Rolf> it was bit slow, I
used like 50 or more
L93[05:48:53] <Rolf> think it was
overheating lol
L94[05:49:00] <Rolf> so many engines firing
too close to body
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L97[05:54:02] <Rolf> challenge: space by
ant engines only
L98[05:54:28] <Rolf> bonus challenge: only
ONE ant engine.
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L100[05:55:09] <JVFoxy> eh... hope ya got
a good slingshot
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L103[06:12:19] <Rolf> many ant engines
MIGHT get it to space
L104[06:12:24] <Rolf> one? can it even
roll?
L105[06:12:38] <Rolf> lol Althego
L106[06:12:56] <Althego> cant launch on
the runway because of the part limit
L107[06:13:49] <Althego> i used to go over
to the runway, but i realized it is not needed
L108[06:14:47] <Rolf> lol little bit
risky
L109[06:14:53] <Rolf> lets call it sucuide
runway
L110[06:14:54] <Althego> not really
L111[06:15:31] <Althego> going to the
runway requires going down a slope, turning right, going down an
other slope, turning right or left, and taking off
L112[06:15:39] <Althego> this requires
only going down a slope and taking off
L113[06:15:42] <Althego> lot safer
L114[06:15:53] <Althego> each slope is a
hazard
L115[06:15:58] <Althego> can cause tipping
oer
L116[06:16:01] <Althego> destruction of
parts
L117[06:16:12] <Althego> same for each
turn
L118[06:17:25] <packbart> why did the
Kerbals drag it out to the launchpad, anyway?
L119[06:18:22] <packbart> ah, I didn't
read the part about part limits
L120[06:18:23] <packbart> :)
L121[06:19:03] <Althego> so essentially
the airplane buildings are useless in career, just a waste of
money
L122[06:20:29] <Althego> i tried to take
away some parts of this many times, but it always turned out to be
lot worse plane
L123[06:21:06] <Althego> for example the
center engine is used as a brake too, very important for landings
in random places
L124[06:21:52] <JVFoxy> upgrade plane
building, you can also get science from some of the substructures
around it.
L125[06:22:17] <JVFoxy> 30 parts limit can
be a bit of a pain for some things
L126[06:22:41] <Althego> yes i know, but i
dont need the plane building
L127[06:22:47] <Althego> and the smallest
upgrade is 300k
L128[06:23:05] <JVFoxy> drive it over to
the runway from launch?
L129[06:23:17] <Althego> that is what i
said, that is risky and pointless
L130[06:23:30] <JVFoxy> I guess.. if you
don't mind building vertically in VAB, among some other
quirks
L131[06:23:54] <Althego> i still need
around 2.5 million to upgrade the science building (3.3 million),
and i need that for the gravioli detector
L132[06:24:07] <Althego> i casn build in
the sph
L133[06:24:11] <JVFoxy> also.. I found
after first upgrade, rovers with small wheels get stuck on launch
pad because of stupid lip around on top of it
L134[06:24:13] <Althego> just cant launch
it from there
L135[06:24:58] <Althego> in thesecond
version of the launchpad there is a ditch in the ramp, and you can
get your wheel in that, really annoying
L136[06:25:06] <Althego> but not in its
"final form" tm
L137[06:25:09] <JVFoxy> ugh.. the pain we
had with level0 runway being bump during some versions in the
past?
L138[06:25:17] <Althego> hehe i
remember
L139[06:25:25] <Althego> the grass was
safer to land
L140[06:25:26] <JVFoxy> better to just go
out into the field and launch there
L141[06:25:30] <Althego> but currently the
runway is ok
L142[06:25:47] <JVFoxy> then the level 0
landing wheels blowing up even at the slightest touch of landing...
>_<
L143[06:26:17] <JVFoxy> but
anyways...
L144[06:27:02] <Althego> and i still
demand 1.25 m fuel only tanks in all sizes
L145[06:27:13] <Althego> hehe yes those
are really bad
L146[06:27:16] <Rolf> Althego: lol so prep
is more dangerous on sucuide runway than runway itself
L147[06:27:50] <JVFoxy> they better now at
least... though still gotta watch that nose wheel spring. older
versions, would compress too hard, shoot the nose back up
suddenly
L148[06:28:19] <Althego> wheels generate
infinite jumping of the plane
L149[06:28:22] <Althego> even for this
too
L150[06:28:24] <JVFoxy> I wouldn't mind a
half sized 1.25 fuel only tank..
L151[06:28:35] <Althego> but smaller
planes, like science plane 1 are constantly jumping
L152[06:28:52] <Rolf> infinite jumping =
infinite free electricity
L153[06:29:01] <Rolf> why dont space base
have tons of jumping planes?
L154[06:29:03] <Althego> if there was a
pizeo part in the game
L155[06:29:04] <JVFoxy> but ya.. fuel
switcher mod sorta helps with picking which fuel in tanks
L156[06:29:24] <Althego> yes either that
or fuels should be switchable
L157[06:29:43] <JVFoxy> I'd also like
something the same diameter of the oscar tank but longer..
L158[06:29:58] <Althego> this tanklessness
is a problem for the nuclear engine
L159[06:29:59] <JVFoxy> would make for
neat little booster rockets and some other things
L160[06:30:16] <Althego> yes that
too
L161[06:31:06] <Rolf> `man. sometimes I
wish reality is that broken
L162[06:31:12] <Rolf> but only
sometimes.
L163[06:31:31] <Althego> maybe it is, we
just never notice because it was always so
L164[06:31:58] <Rolf> if this is
programmed universe, code is far more tight than in ksp.
L165[06:32:23] <Althego> the simulation
can stop between ticks and we would never notic
L166[06:33:09] <Rolf> i remember one
really funny story
L167[06:33:17] <Rolf> guy was making germs
sim program
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L170[06:33:39] <Rolf> thing is every time
he ran it, at random times, but always happens, some germ suddenly
takes over entire map
L171[06:33:48] <Rolf> and never
loses.
L172[06:34:00] <JVFoxy> ugh.. ok I missed
something?
L173[06:34:16] <Rolf> turns out that he
made a programming mistake, one germ found a way to exploit program
bug to have infinite energy
L174[06:34:36] <Rolf> by going -2 energy
when its at level 1 into level -1
L175[06:34:38] <JVFoxy> map.. germ..
uh?
L176[06:34:58] <Althego> hehe
L177[06:35:02] <Rolf> not a lot, was
talking about how universe works in ksp compared to reality
L178[06:35:12] <Rolf> then i started
talking about programming example
L179[06:35:16] <JVFoxy> oh...
L180[06:35:45] <Rolf> in ny case if there
is programmer for this universe
L181[06:35:47] <JVFoxy> come back and
wonder were things suddenly turned into
L182[06:35:57] <Rolf> it can pause it
anytime and backtrack before exploit and fix bug
L183[06:36:30] <Rolf> so we might have
found few times way to have infinite energy or faster than light
anything but it got fixed
L184[06:37:39] <JVFoxy> I sorta thinking,
if you tried to go back in time to fix something, you basically
making another reality
L185[06:37:59] <Althego> depends on what
way your time travel works
L186[06:38:04] <JVFoxy> if something has
already happened, its happened, can't be changed
L187[06:38:27] <Althego> also
depends
L188[06:38:29] <JVFoxy> started thinking,
if time travel was possible, why have they come back to do anything
already?
L189[06:38:41] <Rolf> its not time travel
since creator is outside system
L190[06:38:42] <JVFoxy> ... why /haven't/
they.. I mean
L191[06:38:46] <Althego> if it was
possible they would be here already :)
L192[06:38:55] <Althego> basically the
fermi paradox just of time travel
L193[06:39:19] <JVFoxy> so thinking.. if
it is possible, time probably hasn't reached that point, or doing
so, puts you down another path
L194[06:39:22] <Althego> unless time
travel works in a plausible way, and then you can only go back to
the point where the machines was assembled
L195[06:40:04] <JVFoxy> there was a movie
based off that.. dont' recall what it was named. friend watched it,
I only half paid attention
L196[06:40:14] <JVFoxy> was work'n
something else while visiting
L197[06:41:12] <Rolf> Althego: ah the
primer theory of time machine
L198[06:41:24] <Rolf> too bad I never
watched that movie. dvd is too expensive and rare.
L199[06:41:48] <Althego> i dont know about
that, i read it in a book called how to build a time machine
L200[06:42:03] <Althego> just as the
alcubierre drive it requires exotic matter
L201[06:42:09] <Rolf> yeah one of em is
twisting laser tunnel something like that anyway
L202[06:43:33] <Althego> first you make a
singularity, then you shape it into a wormhole, then you put one
end of it in a device that accelerates it close to the speed of
lieght, so time stops for that.after that there is a time asymmetry
between the two ends, but time travel is only possible after the
machine was built.
L203[06:44:01] <JVFoxy> ah.. ya.. 'Primer'
was the movie
L204[06:44:28] <Rolf> expensve dvd. last I
looked it was $50
L205[06:44:37] <Rolf> they only did one
run of dvds.
L206[06:44:57] <Rolf> maybe cheaper now
since dvd is going down
L207[06:45:10] <Rolf> 14 bucks
L208[06:45:21] <JVFoxy> funny since movie
was a bit low budget
L209[06:46:21] <Althego> still need to
rescue a kerbal from the south polar region of the mun
L210[06:46:28] <Rolf> its captioned and
subtitled good'
L211[06:46:29] <Althego> i have more than
enough of them now
L212[06:47:43] <Rolf> it took me years to
wait for price to be low enough.
L213[06:47:52] <Rolf> $50 or higher was
too much.
L214[06:48:46] <JVFoxy> sigh.. I have a
kerbal in previous version ksp waiting for rescue mid lattitude on
the mun..
L215[06:48:58] <JVFoxy> I really wanna
bring back my carter ship too.
L216[06:49:16] <Rolf> geez over 10
years!
L217[06:49:21] <Rolf> where did time
go
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L219[06:49:44] <Rolf> well soon, I can
watch movie I waited over a decade for.
L220[06:49:55] <Althego> which one?
L221[06:49:58] <Rolf> primer
L222[06:50:16] <Althego> what, you just
bought it?
L223[06:50:23] <Rolf> yeah
L224[06:50:41] <Althego> there were two
movies iwated for that long
L225[06:50:51] <Althego> ender's game and
alita
L226[06:51:11] *
JVFoxy pokes wiki.. budget $7k, made almost $842k..
huh.
L227[06:51:29] <Althego> not pad
L228[06:51:30] <JVFoxy> oh ugh.. Ender's
Game..
L229[06:51:30] <Rolf> you mean, you didnt
watch on release or waited for it to exist?
L230[06:51:44] <JVFoxy> I tried rewatching
that again, some reason the meanie kids got to me
L231[06:51:50] <Althego> i had to wait
until they existed
L232[06:52:01] <Rolf> i love books. movie
is very good but not to level of book
L233[06:52:02] <JVFoxy> didn't alita just
come out recently?
L234[06:52:10] <Althego> yes
L235[06:52:12] <JVFoxy> ok
L236[06:52:21] <Rolf> oh. primer already
existed but dvd was so rare and expensive I refused to buy it till
now'
L237[06:52:34] <Rolf> primer was out in
2004, and I discovered it at 2005
L238[06:52:37] <Rolf> now is 2019
L239[06:52:38] <JVFoxy> I guess its the
trailers or other things that made me think it came out a while ago
already
L240[06:53:07] <Rolf> now I need to get
dvd player
L241[06:53:09] <JVFoxy> another movie
friend's watched while I was visiting, Moon...
L242[06:53:20] <Althego> the point is, i
knew they were coming, but it took them more than a decade to
finally arrive
L243[06:53:36] <Althego> welcome to lunar
industries
L244[06:53:52] <Rolf> ender game book was
so good
L245[06:54:03] <Rolf> to think I rejected
it for years
L246[06:54:09] <Rolf> meh teenager
book
L247[06:54:26] <Rolf> typical teenager
book is very thin on plot
L248[06:55:36] <JVFoxy> oh ugh.. now
thinking back to some movie based on the moon I saw as a kid...
started with some scene someone falling to the ground. some mystery
thing
L249[06:57:43] <Althego> not much to go
on
L250[06:59:23] <Rolf> matrix?
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L252[06:59:48] <Rolf> second one, I think,
starts with lady falling backwards out of building and shooting 2
big guns
L253[07:00:02] <Rolf> or maybe first? been
a while
L254[07:01:23] <JVFoxy> trying to remember
more... its just a body falling, not sure if in spacesuit. movie
was about a murder mystery on the moon, but something's trying to
kill the investigation before gets too far
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L258[07:23:55] <JVFoxy> ah.. murder by
moonlight.. I believe.
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L260[07:30:28] <Rolf> interesting dont
know that one,
L261[07:32:42] <JVFoxy> sadly.. not a
whole lot of inside details though...
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L266[08:20:59] <Rolf> reminds me of one
where alien brusts out of human chest... and when its adult, human
baby brusts out of its chest
L267[08:21:03] <Rolf> burst
L269[08:41:13] *
Mat2ch melts away
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L271[09:01:33] <Tank2333_> youtube gold i
guess
L273[09:03:54] <Althego> time to send the
rescue craft for the poor kerbal stranded in a polar crater on the
mun
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L277[09:42:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think i ever had a rescue mission from the surface
L278[09:51:32] <Althego> i once had to
recover the largest solid booster from a crater on the mun
L279[09:52:38] <Althego> that strange
scene switching slowness again, i couldnt take it anymore, had to
restart
L280[09:53:05] <Althego> strangely it does
not happen for the mission and science buildings. probably because
they are just menus
L281[10:03:39] <packbart> yeah, that bug
me, too, sometimes. I like to test-and-revert designs a lot
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L285[10:09:00] <Althego> that too. but
most annoying is the frequent switches between flying a craft,
tracking station and editor
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L290[10:51:51] <Althego> scott
L291[10:52:01] <Althego> that lem lego is
nice
L292[10:52:11] <Althego> with golden
element
L293[10:52:12] <Althego> s
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L302[12:59:05] <Neal> anyone know if
kerbal engineer shows landing position? I'm trying to figure out
which mod it is that shows a large bullseye on my where I'm about
to land
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L304[13:22:31] <packbart> yes, that's
KER
L305[13:24:01] <Althego> wait, it does
that? i never knew :)
L306[13:24:12] <darsie> click
'land'.
L307[13:24:31] <darsie> also shows you
suicide burn time.
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L309[13:30:10] <Althego> 55 minutes until
first probe reaches minmus. and it carries 4 small relay sats
L310[13:30:41] <Althego> the core collects
science
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L312[13:31:08] <darsie> What are you
playing so you need relays for Minmus?
L313[13:31:34] <Althego> stock
L314[13:32:39] <Althego> bob follows a day
later so maybe there will be a partially set up network. not too
important for bob, but still nice to have for other probes
L315[13:38:37] <darsie> Althego: I have
96% signal on Minmus with a Communotron 16. I don't need signal on
the far side.
L316[13:39:19] <Althego> it is more
convenient
L317[13:39:27] <Althego> exactly for the
far side
L318[13:39:38] <darsie> ok :)
L319[13:40:13] <darsie> Mun is a different
story, tidally locked.
L320[13:40:24] <darsie> I think.
L321[13:46:34] <UmbralRaptor> It is
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L326[14:52:30] <lordcirth__> Althego, it's
a fairly recent KER release that added the LAND tab
L327[14:52:49] <Althego> and i havent
installed it since the delta v display
L328[14:55:04] <darsie> 'land' doesn't
show the landing site for suicide burn.
L329[15:01:11] <Althego> finally, ran out
of the updated isekai mangas
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L337[15:41:26] <jUMPSu1t> def wont get ksp
anytime soon...just got laptop, parents won't get me anything for
at least 2 yrs...
L338[15:41:43] <UmbralRaptor> okay?
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L340[15:42:41] <jUMPSu1t> What's the
difference between different colored parachutes? I know some come
in side-mounted units, but the only difference in the parachutes
themselves is that some are orange and others red.
L341[15:43:44] <UmbralRaptor> Swapping
colors is for aesthetics and/or marking. As for types, compare
drogue with regular
L342[15:44:11] <jUMPSu1t> oooohhhhhhh...so
not much of a difference.
L343[15:44:17] <jUMPSu1t> Ok...
L344[15:44:19] <UmbralRaptor> Drogue
chutes you open earlier/higher/faster to slow down enough to safely
use main chutes
L345[15:44:28] <UmbralRaptor> Not all
craft need both
L346[15:44:46] <jUMPSu1t> Right...irl you
can use tiny parachutes to drag out the big ones can you do that in
ksp?
L347[15:45:36] <UmbralRaptor> Stock ones
don't do that per se. Deployment is always successful if you're in
the right speed range.
L348[15:45:50] <jUMPSu1t> Any advice on
separating srbs from fuel tanks so they DON'T explode? Watched vid
where it lopped off the whole first stage
L349[15:46:23] <jUMPSu1t> So it's best to
open chutes under 500 kps...right
L350[15:47:00] <jUMPSu1t> I don't play,
but love the game
L351[15:47:35] <jUMPSu1t> *nobody is
saying anything*
L352[15:48:20] <jUMPSu1t> Ares did you
watch The MArtian?
L353[15:48:56] <darsie> jUMPSu1t: Why do
you care if SRBs explode?
L354[15:49:02] <UmbralRaptor> Uh, be
careful with decoupler placement, and make sure you still have
thrust?
L355[15:49:31] <UmbralRaptor> I assume
jUMPSu1t is worried about collisions with upper stages
L356[15:49:52] <UmbralRaptor> uh, chute
wise I'd say below ~300-400 m/s
L357[15:49:54] <jUMPSu1t> @darsie bc if
they explode while you're jettisoning them, they destroy your fuel
tanks
L358[15:49:56] <darsie> jUMPSu1t: Place
SRBs low on decouplers, so they rotate with their tops away.
L359[15:50:03] <jUMPSu1t> Fair
enough.
L360[15:50:10] <jUMPSu1t> Don't even play
this game
L361[15:50:45] <darsie> jUMPSu1t: You can
buy KSP yourself.
L362[15:50:59] <jUMPSu1t> Ik...but I don't
have that liberty
L363[15:51:09] <jUMPSu1t> I wisk tho
L364[15:51:11] <darsie> How so?
L365[15:51:13] <jUMPSu1t> Wish
L366[15:51:26] <jUMPSu1t> uhhh...I have
parents
L367[15:51:29] <darsie> Will they punish
you of you do?
L368[15:51:35] <darsie> if
L369[15:51:45] <jUMPSu1t> Yeah, and I'd
spend wayyyy to much time playing
L370[15:51:46] <darsie> Wiht your own
money.
L371[15:51:58] <jUMPSu1t>
Well...yeah
L372[15:52:13] <UmbralRaptor> It's only
too much time if homework, etc isn't getting done
L373[15:52:15] <darsie> Tell them KSP is
educational.
L374[15:52:37] <darsie> Neglecing social
life can be an issue, too.
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L386[19:00:50] <jUMPSu1t> Guys, my account
for KSP isn't loading. Is the Forum account the same as the KSP
website account???
L387[19:06:43] <jUMPSu1t> It says my email
or password is invalid, then when I try to create a new account
with my current account's information, it says I'm already
registered.
L388[19:08:59] <jUMPSu1t> Plz help!!! I
haven't downloaded the game yet, and I need this to work!
L389[19:20:01] <UmbralRaptor> forum
account ≠ website account
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