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L1[00:02:45] <Eddi|zuHause> how about making customizable colors a paid DLC?
L2[00:03:29] <Neal> the other tanks have more colors
L3[00:03:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i know... what a missed opportunity :p
L4[00:04:19] <Althego> the colors are a new addition
L5[00:04:33] <Althego> i think that part revamp is a continuous process
L6[00:04:41] <Althego> probably we get some in 1.8 too
L7[00:05:07] <Eddi|zuHause> last time i played, i mixed half and full height tanks so i could have a chequerboard pattern
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L10[00:10:34] <Neal> @#@$%^&^#E GD bjdngh g
L11[00:10:56] <Althego> cat?
L12[00:10:58] <Neal> decoupled my fairing and it ripped off my stowed antennas
L13[00:11:13] <Neal> this was specifically a relay lander
L14[00:11:32] <Neal> and it ripped off only the relay antennas
L15[00:14:12] <Neal> welp
L16[00:14:27] <Neal> I needed those to communicate with kerbin as well
L17[00:14:31] <Neal> as it turns out
L18[00:14:35] <Althego> hehe
L19[00:14:51] <Althego> i usually have a backup fixed antenna, the 2 arm thing
L20[00:15:03] <Althego> and that works up to minmus
L21[00:15:28] <Neal> I had a backup relay antenna on the other side of the craft but that s gone too
L22[00:15:41] <Neal> had a perfect ascent and everything today... ugh
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L24[00:17:57] <Neal> the stupid thing is I tested this on the launchpad to make sure it would't do that beforehand
L25[00:17:59] <Neal> and it was fine
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L28[00:57:23] <Neal> this is so bad, my burn is in a radio blindspot
L29[00:57:57] <Neal> I have 1hr 22min KSP time to launch *something* to act as a relay
L30[00:58:03] <Neal> and also get it in position
L31[00:58:14] <Neal> thinking the classic method of moar boosters
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L34[01:01:10] <Neal> operation: get a small mass in an extremely steep trajectory is go
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L36[01:07:26] <Neal> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
L37[01:07:30] <Neal> RELAY ANTENNA BROKE AGAIN
L38[01:07:35] <Althego> hehe
L39[01:14:14] <Neal> eh I made it into orbit but had to burn extremely high up in the SOI
L40[01:15:50] <Neal> also turns out that the HG-5 in orbit around the mun cannot connect to another HG-5 in LKO
L41[01:17:25] <Neal> this was a complete failure
L42[01:25:56] <Althego> yes but it can connect to the dsn
L43[01:26:18] <Althego> why would you want this at all?
L44[01:26:44] <Neal> dsn was blocked because kerbin turned away
L45[01:26:54] <Althego> usually you want the hg-5 to connect an other one around the same object to send the signal around
L46[01:27:00] <Neal> had to try to get an emergecy out because line of sight was blocked
L47[01:27:03] <Althego> did you turn off the other base stations?
L48[01:27:13] <Neal> yeah they're unbalanced IMO
L49[01:27:23] <Neal> too easy
L50[01:27:38] <Althego> no they are annoying in hard mode, because there are a lot of blocked places in lko
L51[01:28:18] <Neal> I'm going to get a set of relay sats up pretty soon
L52[01:29:08] <Neal> once you get one in a syncronous orbit right above KSC you're fine
L53[01:29:19] <Neal> *as long as somethign better than the hg5 is used
L54[01:36:43] <Neal> I'm going to try something silly and try to land my mun lander with a broken antenna back on kerbin
L55[01:36:56] <Neal> it wasn't intended for atmospheric entry tho
L56[01:37:10] <Althego> i like the hg-5. it looks cute, quite small, and is a normal and relay in one. the others cant do that
L57[01:37:28] <Neal> its pretty fragile tho
L58[01:37:43] <Gasher[work]> land? does it have a TWR>1 on kerbin?
L59[01:38:35] <Neal> its still got it transfer stage attached
L60[01:38:45] <Neal> lot of power on there
L61[01:39:18] <Neal> the final stage has the spark engine on it so I think it has enough twr
L62[01:40:57] <Neal> looking good https://i.imgur.com/2efjNXu.png
L63[01:41:42] <Gasher[work]> twr 3
L64[01:43:11] <Neal> that was the transfer stage that just burned out
L65[01:43:47] <Neal> ok have to redo that landing, overestimated TWR of landing stage
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L69[01:46:52] <Gasher[work]> looks a bit larger than a model yet a bit small for a real aircraft https://ulyanovsk.express/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/fwdaxFc3Mdg.jpg
L70[01:50:28] <Althego> probably ultralight
L71[01:51:37] <Gasher[work]> actually DIY, flight ended in fatal crash
L72[01:51:45] <Althego> eh
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L75[02:00:29] <Neal> turns out the mk1 capsule is wayyyy too aerodynamic when upside down
L76[02:02:58] <Neal> Gasher[work], had it ever flown successfully?
L77[02:03:15] <Gasher[work]> no idea, the article was about the crash
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L95[04:44:20] <Webchat575> Hey bois
L96[04:45:28] <darsie> hi boy
L97[04:45:51] <Webchat575> wassup
L98[04:46:08] <darsie> Minmus
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L100[04:48:20] <Webchat575> oof
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L111[08:13:15] <Guest00224> Need help
L112[08:13:47] <Guest00224> Anybody there?
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L115[08:18:12] <lordcirth> So impatient
L116[08:18:49] <sandbox> they need help with their patience
L117[08:34:36] <Althego> youngsters these days :)
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L133[10:33:12] <sandbox> demo https://www.google.com/maps/@4.0463911,32.6331664,13.25z
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L136[10:34:16] <Althego> hehe indeed
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L138[10:54:13] <darsie> Fairing still has excessive drag when it is the root part.
L139[10:54:19] <darsie> in 1.7
L140[10:54:47] <darsie> like 68 vs. 438 km Ap.
L141[10:55:05] <Althego> hehe
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L164[13:01:55] <kubi> hmm, I did not know this
L165[13:02:14] <kubi> I'm using root fairings frequently
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L181[14:49:41] <packbart> -mm-dump is the command line option I've been looking for so long. now I can actually see the config nodes patched by ModuleManager
L182[14:50:06] <packbart> If only I knew that earlier, would've saved me a number of KSP restarts
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L186[15:22:51] <packbart> darsie: indeed. I see a long red spike in the aero overlay if the fairing is the root part. good to know, I guess
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L190[15:34:52] <packbart> some of my satellite subassembly launchers had the fairing as root. No wonder they flew weird
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