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L41[05:49:57] <Eddi|zuHause> spoleto?
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L43[05:56:37] <Mat2ch> So, did you all see the pizza stack this morning?
L44[05:56:41] <Althego> i did
L45[05:56:42] <Rolf> no
L46[05:56:48] <Althego> but actually
L47[05:56:51] <Althego> wasnt really visible
L48[05:57:03] <Althego> i was hoping the stack would peel away one by one as they do with other launches
L49[05:57:11] <Althego> but they just detached it completely
L50[05:57:18] <Mat2ch> yeah, I expected that, too
L51[05:57:38] <Mat2ch> I really wonder how they did that and if it was somehow spring loaded
L52[05:57:40] <Althego> so i couldnt see how they looked like, especially with the sun reflecting off them
L53[05:58:07] <Mat2ch> or if they just wait until they all float away from each other far enough and then start the thrusters to put them in their orbit
L54[05:58:26] <Mat2ch> I'm also wondering how and if they're going to do a plane change
L55[05:58:58] <Mat2ch> I guess not, because that would be very inefficient
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L68[09:09:26] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/gallery/g6V6JMP
L69[09:09:32] <Mat2ch> uh, yeah, more plz
L70[09:15:48] <JVFoxy> lol... neutral post huh?
L71[09:15:58] <JVFoxy> followed by ... https://imgur.com/I8XGkyf
L72[09:16:47] <JVFoxy> oh and warning, may cause siezures
L73[09:20:57] <Mat2ch> Meh!
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L77[09:42:20] <JVFoxy> Suppose I should work on vids today...
L78[09:45:32] <JVFoxy> they just posted 'breaking ground' trailer on youtube for KSP.. c.c
L79[09:53:20] * Mat2ch is still mad
L80[09:53:34] <Althego> u mad bro? :)
L81[09:55:08] <Althego> what is the pural of bigfoot? bigfeet? :)
L82[09:55:23] <Althego> somehow sounds silly
L83[09:55:42] <Althego> bigfoots then?
L84[09:55:59] <VanDisaster> bigfoot
L85[10:05:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: very very mad!
L86[10:06:20] <Althego> because of the dlc?
L87[10:06:41] <Mat2ch> yes
L88[10:06:53] <JVFoxy> ah..
L89[10:06:58] <JVFoxy> what is it about anyways?
L90[10:07:16] <Mat2ch> Back in the days, when this channel was filled with active players we all called out to Squad and asked for robotic parts.
L91[10:07:23] <Mat2ch> And now they add them. As a DLC.
L92[10:07:46] <Mat2ch> We're talking about the Early Access days
L93[10:08:26] <flayer> honestly, with the amount of hours i've played i'm fine paying for more content
L94[10:08:58] <flayer> you can always just take a mod with robotic parts if you don't want to pay, right?
L95[10:09:15] <Mat2ch> the mod isn't maintained any further
L96[10:09:26] <Mat2ch> also we asked for an in-game thing, not a mod
L97[10:09:28] <flayer> and you can't get the old one and update it?
L98[10:10:00] <Mat2ch> why would I want to run an old, buggy, not very performant old version?
L99[10:10:03] <flayer> you sound spoiled to me :)
L100[10:10:41] <Mat2ch> I'm mad that they never answered our calls back then
L101[10:10:55] <Mat2ch> and now they just add it as DLC
L102[10:11:06] <JVFoxy> they still pushing that people who got it back in 2013 free dlc?
L103[10:11:07] <JVFoxy> hmm..
L104[10:11:31] <JVFoxy> friend got it back when it as 0.18..
L105[10:12:03] <Mat2ch> "oh yeah, thanks for suggestion this great feature five years ago and thanks for describing how great it would make the game. Here, have a DLC!"
L106[10:12:10] <flayer> ...
L107[10:12:24] <flayer> clearly they should have done all the work as soon as you asked, nay, demanded
L108[10:12:32] <flayer> rather than build up their game as they saw fit
L109[10:13:02] <Mat2ch> If it was so "fitting", why do they add them now?
L110[10:13:11] * JVFoxy checks account, I got it a year later.. my PC wasn't finished being put together till then
L111[10:13:47] <JVFoxy> so... now thats two DLC, $15 (american) each.. so probably 150 canadian for me. :\
L112[10:14:02] * JVFoxy shakse fist at exchange rates
L113[10:17:46] <flayer> Mat2ch: because now they have the resources to do so?
L114[10:17:54] <flayer> now that their base game is "done" ?
L115[10:19:58] <Mat2ch> You know, I'm stopping this discussion right here. I'm mad, I said why I'm mad, you wont change that and this is getting stupid.
L116[10:20:09] <Althego> unfortunately i got the game at 0.24, so i have to pay for the dlcs too
L117[10:20:24] <flayer> it was stupid the second you got mad
L118[10:20:48] <Althego> scott has said nothing about the pizzaboxes. not yet at least
L119[10:21:29] <VanDisaster> DLC are free for early adopters still yes
L120[10:21:40] <JVFoxy> june 10 2014 for me.. so version 0.23.5 when I got around to buying it
L121[10:22:57] <packbart> DLCs also go on sale every now and then (on Steam that is)
L122[10:24:03] <JVFoxy> i'm a bit sad because friend that first got it, who showed and let me play it on their PC, quickly gave up on the game because it was 'too complicated'
L123[10:24:30] <JVFoxy> funny thing is, I still have the save data from his laptop from whatever version it was he first got
L124[10:25:39] <packbart> and yet others say the game's not realistically complicated enough. I guess that's where mods fit in very well, so everyone can add life support 'n stuff to their liking
L125[10:26:25] <flayer> i like snacks because i can configure it to be really simple and straightforward
L126[10:26:40] <JVFoxy> the chatter that used to go around about companies that make games wanting to put a halt to game mods.. for whatever reason?
L127[10:27:34] <JVFoxy> I don't remember which game it was that started things, just that talk about KSP was possibly going to get swept up into it as well
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L129[10:34:52] * JVFoxy watch'n vid from beaucoupzero. They loading up spaceplane with a bunch of kerbals. Some of the names...
L130[10:37:56] <JVFoxy> missed a few as video fades to them loading Kerbals. Names I caught: Engie, medic, Demo, Alex Jones, Doomguy, SJW, BasedBoy, WhitePill, BluePilled, RedPilled, Blackpilled, DankMemes, Also, I haveADiscord, 1BSubsBy2020, And other, Dreams, Starman, Reluctant Elon Musk, If you read, This, You, Are, ONE OF US, And Everything, Will Be, Alright, So Chill, I Dont wanna go
L131[10:39:04] <JVFoxy> The last one didn't make it in as it turns out..
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L133[10:45:19] <JVFoxy> speaking of names... Picard is back? c.c;
L134[10:47:32] <sandbox> hope for the best
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L136[10:48:44] <JVFoxy> well.. trailer
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L138[10:49:32] <JVFoxy> so .. its set 20 years later, they figure Picard isn't the same person as he once was.. world is changing. Makes sense.
L139[10:50:02] <Althego> heh i got 2 engineers
L140[10:50:09] <Guest32439> hi mates. looking for help with an issue I got with RP-1. could you guide me to the proper channel? thx
L141[10:50:10] <Althego> i need a second scientist
L142[10:52:33] <JVFoxy> which problem is that?
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L145[10:56:57] <JVFoxy> eh...
L146[10:56:59] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: Oh, I'm so hyped. I've been waiting for this since the announcement that Patrick Stewart is staring again as Picard
L147[10:57:07] <JVFoxy> guessing guest had no comment?
L148[10:57:34] <Althego> hehe these names. burbro kerman, alloong kerman
L149[10:57:39] <Althego> allong
L150[10:57:50] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch didn't Sir Stewart say he wanted to bring back the character after TNG was done?
L151[11:00:10] <JVFoxy> hoping maybe I'm not mixing it up with some other actor
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L153[11:01:58] <flayer> lol, "Sir"
L154[11:02:24] <flayer> abolish the aristocracy
L155[11:02:24] <JVFoxy> he is knighted
L156[11:02:39] <flayer> i don't recognize titles handed out by inbred families
L157[11:03:04] <flayer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYltrmBhKw
L158[11:07:06] <JVFoxy> shrug
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L162[11:19:03] <Mat2ch> Althego: alalalalaloooong?
L163[11:20:15] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: yeah, he's one of the few persons who really deservs the Sir
L164[11:22:57] <flayer> it's not about whether or not he deserves something
L165[11:23:00] <flayer> it's about where it comes from
L166[11:23:35] <Althego> what have the romans ever done for us
L167[11:23:54] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch captain, teacher, also a 'king'... saw him in Lion in Winter way way back. The fact he's still doing stage play, and hasn't looked like he aged too much since TNG.. also 78 years old.. looks pretty good for his age
L168[11:24:11] <flayer> rome wasn't burnt in a day, but it couldn't have been more than a week
L169[11:24:18] <flayer> and I know that the children of barbarians become the new tax collectors and priests
L170[11:24:35] <flayer> we should all follow the example of jesus and resist the empire
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L173[11:26:40] <Althego> resistance is futile :)
L174[11:26:50] <flayer> tell that to the roman empire
L175[11:27:56] <JVFoxy> life is but a stage...
L176[11:31:46] <flayer> we are at the cusp of a revolution, it is up to us (millenials) to direct it
L177[11:32:14] <Althego> what kind of revolution?
L178[11:32:21] <flayer> a revolutionary revolution
L179[11:34:36] <JVFoxy> so... we fight'n the entitled revolution now?
L180[11:34:37] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: I love how broken he looks in that trailer
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L183[11:35:51] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch Trailer didn't show much, other than the picard fields. I'm guessing he went back home.
L184[11:35:52] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: people talking about revolution never thought about the consequences, never took a closer look at our history.
L185[11:36:11] <JVFoxy> has a slight sense of Halo, where they drag Halsey in for questioning in 4
L186[11:36:14] <Mat2ch> he defenitely did. And something aweful must have happend to him
L187[11:36:22] <Mat2ch> In the last frame of the trailer you see his face
L188[11:36:47] <JVFoxy> Movie Logan, they had to do a lot to make him look badly aged
L189[11:40:21] <flayer> Mat2ch: you're right, lets leave things going as they are.
L190[11:40:42] <Althego> yes, let's stop the expansion of the universe
L191[11:40:58] <flayer> no, that is changing something
L192[11:41:03] <flayer> stopping it is changing something
L193[11:41:21] <flayer> just like stopping the growing gap of wealth inequality would be changing something
L194[11:42:49] <sandbox> order 66
L195[11:42:58] <flayer> just like providing homes to the homeless would be changing something
L196[11:43:15] <JVFoxy> passive agressive..?
L197[11:43:17] <flayer> just like no longer having young families be forced to pay rent to oligarchs would be changing something
L198[11:43:39] <Althego> this is going towards politics
L199[11:43:40] <flayer> just like solving the 80% unemployment amongst the 1-2% of autistic people would be changing something
L200[11:43:51] <flayer> this is society
L201[11:44:27] <flayer> but i'm aware of the rules
L202[11:44:30] <flayer> and i'll shut it
L203[11:44:40] <flayer> for now
L204[11:47:54] <flayer> i am sore all over
L205[11:48:47] <Mat2ch> Althego: all the way, yes.
L206[11:49:23] <JVFoxy> mm... how about something a little fun: what did you do in KSP today? (and ya, its barely started for me, 9am)
L207[11:49:23] <Mat2ch> Also it's funny that I'm not allowed to be mad at something, but flayer is.
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L209[11:50:20] <Mat2ch> Not at all hypocritical
L210[11:51:02] <Althego> what happened to flub?
L211[11:51:24] <Mat2ch> I don't know :(
L212[11:52:44] <JVFoxy> mm? Mean besides just being quiet there?
L213[12:09:57] <Rokker> reeee politics
L214[12:10:10] <Rokker> reeeeeeee
L215[12:11:04] <Rokker> Althego: guess what the museum is getting to celebrate Apollo 11 50th
L216[12:11:42] <Althego> working guidance computer?
L217[12:12:43] <Rokker> a spacesuit exhibit
L218[12:13:00] <Rokker> spacesuits from mercury to shuttle
L219[12:13:11] <Althego> nice
L220[12:14:15] <Rokker> Althego: including, and dont quote me on this, I'm not 100% sure, one of Michael Collins' suits
L221[12:14:18] <Althego> you know what would have been nicer? a city on the moon by the anniversary
L222[12:14:34] <Rokker> listen
L223[12:14:39] <Althego> hey, listen
L224[12:14:44] <Rokker> cities usually have to be built by rivers
L225[12:14:49] <Rokker> and the moon has no rivers
L226[12:14:56] <Althego> but has minable ice
L227[12:15:04] <Rokker> so once we get rivers on the moon we can have cities
L228[12:15:15] <Rokker> global warm the moon to melt the ice
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L230[12:15:21] <Rokker> and make rivers
L231[12:15:40] <Rokker> what would a 1/6th G waterfall look like
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L233[12:16:27] <Rokker> moon rivers when
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L235[12:17:10] <JVFoxy> could just drop a dome on teh moon, make a river yourself
L236[12:17:44] <JVFoxy> was a vid on fluids that don't subliminate in vaccum, could just use some of that stuff on the moon
L237[12:19:17] <Althego> ionic liquids
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L242[12:44:01] * darsie built an Eve sample return rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot130.png
L243[12:44:29] <Althego> looks kind of anemic
L244[12:44:37] <darsie> why?
L245[12:44:39] <flayer> that's a lot of stairs to climb
L246[12:44:44] <darsie> yeah :)
L247[12:44:57] <darsie> Needs refuelling in orbit, Gilly and Eve.
L248[12:45:00] <Althego> make landers as flat as possible because they always flip
L249[12:45:30] <darsie> Althego: That's about as flat as a return lander on Eve gets.
L250[12:45:38] <Althego> hehe
L251[12:45:59] <Althego> such high rockets can only land on water or on the flats of minmus
L252[12:46:11] <darsie> Watch me :).
L253[12:46:54] <darsie> The decouplers of the legs flex. I'm not sure if this is good or bad.
L254[12:47:35] <darsie> Rigid legs would explode high side struts on slopes.
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L257[12:48:12] <darsie> I'll try it. We'll see if the entry burn is sufficient to avoid exploding.
L258[12:48:34] <Althego> hehe
L259[12:48:45] <Althego> there is an altitude on eve where things tend toexplode
L260[12:49:03] <darsie> 86 km ;)
L261[12:49:06] <Althego> hehe no
L262[12:49:12] <Althego> ok, there too
L263[12:49:50] <darsie> Where? This is not Jool.
L264[12:50:12] <Althego> but generally dont try to land on eve without a heat shield
L265[12:51:00] <darsie> Where would I put a heat shield?
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L267[12:51:27] <flayer> at the bottom
L268[12:51:37] <flayer> facing entry
L269[12:51:45] <darsie> How can I thrust with a heat shield at the bottom?
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L271[12:52:02] <flayer> you don't need thrust to land, put on a million parachutes
L272[12:52:19] <darsie> How do I get to Eve without thrusting?
L273[12:52:27] <flayer> use another spacecraft
L274[12:52:56] <darsie> I shall put another spacecraft under this rocket?
L275[12:52:57] <flayer> build 3 or 4 similiar towers around the current one and use them to bring the craft there :)
L276[12:53:22] <darsie> Nah, I use an entry burn. Like Falcon 9.
L277[12:53:59] <JVFoxy> ... chutes on decouplers...
L278[12:54:08] <JVFoxy> DV really /that/ tight?
L279[12:54:43] <darsie> That last stage has a Terrier. 400 kg more or less matter.
L280[12:55:12] <darsie> On ascent.
L281[12:55:18] * JVFoxy looks further down on rocket, "uh....'
L282[12:55:53] <JVFoxy> I shouldn't say anything really.. I only /attempted/ a jool orbit back in V0.24 some long time ago.
L283[12:57:25] <darsie> The chutes are just for landing at Eve.
L284[12:58:04] <JVFoxy> I don't even know if I wanna go stock or add a few mods if I'm going to be flying further than minmus
L285[13:00:02] <JVFoxy> I'd like to stay stock but its a double edge sword in some ways: it can be a bit limiting, but it can also make things challenging, come up with some creative designs
L286[13:00:11] <Althego> in 0.24 jool orbits were easy, no heat
L287[13:01:48] <JVFoxy> at the time, I didn't really bother looking at transfer windows, deltaV.. just went. Get into orbit. fiddled with nodes I got something that was akin to a flyby
L288[13:01:51] <darsie> JVFoxy: Some mods are ok. Date quicksaves, KER, EER.
L289[13:02:12] <JVFoxy> then.. see if I could stop in time. Turns out I was several KM DV short
L290[13:02:38] <Althego> my first jool mission was just one of the biggest successes
L291[13:03:35] <Althego> originally i planned to go to two moons i think, but made a flayby for the others, and i was running out of fuel for the trip back, so i had to get creative with the gravity assists
L292[13:03:41] <JVFoxy> I figured, if I really got on a roll, probably be stuff like Kerbal Alarm, KIS/KAS, may even go back to using IR in some limited way. Very much like to use Surface experiments.
L293[13:03:43] <Althego> and i made it back with a lot of science
L294[13:03:51] <Althego> way more i planned
L295[13:04:41] <JVFoxy> speaking of gravity assists.. your thoughts on it adding a whole wack of extra time to the mission? Anyone bother keeping things within a sensable amount of time?
L296[13:05:19] <Althego> they were ok in the jool system. i never try them for the complete mission
L297[13:05:21] <JVFoxy> ehhhh... wait a minute, kerbal years -goes to check something-
L298[13:05:22] <Althego> lot of time to plan
L299[13:05:40] <Althego> and the game needs one more step of time acceleration
L300[13:05:49] <Althego> getting to jool takes minutes even on max
L301[13:06:02] <Althego> not to mention eeloo
L302[13:09:10] <JVFoxy> ugh this chart >_< how long kerbin year compared to earth year
L303[13:12:16] <JVFoxy> ah.. kerbal year is 106.5 earth days
L304[13:13:01] <darsie> Ohh, I forgot solar panels for the drills and refinery.
L305[13:13:39] <JVFoxy> so.. if a mission took 150 years kerbal time, its really only 43 our years... heck, Voyager 1/2 been out 42 years. launched same year I was born
L306[13:14:15] <JVFoxy> darsie oops... happens. at least it wasn't chutes
L307[13:17:54] <darsie> And I noticed early.
L308[13:18:10] <darsie> Only had 3 small ones for the reaction wheel.
L309[13:23:08] <JVFoxy> wonder what ore values are like at Kerbin's poles.. I've wanted to do a polar station project
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L315[13:59:45] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't a kerbal year more like 400 days?
L316[14:00:12] <Althego> but 6 hour days
L317[14:00:18] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, right
L318[14:00:22] <Eddi|zuHause> 400 kerbal days
L319[14:00:24] <JVFoxy> 400 something odd kerbal says.. not Earth
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L321[14:00:47] <JVFoxy> turns out its 0.29 percent of a human earth year
L322[14:01:04] <flayer> ~426
L323[14:01:05] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm no
L324[14:01:07] <Eddi|zuHause> 29%
L325[14:01:11] <Eddi|zuHause> or 0.29
L326[14:01:15] <JVFoxy> eh sorry meant that ya
L327[14:01:15] <Eddi|zuHause> not 0.29%
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L329[14:01:52] <JVFoxy> also just got out of shower, 3rd cup coffee, feeling drowsy
L330[14:01:39] <flayer> everyone knew what you meant
L331[14:01:31] <JVFoxy> they had it as 0.29 on the chart
L332[14:02:06] <flayer> those things contradict one another, but it's ok
L333[14:02:19] <JVFoxy> mostly, was thinking how the high numbers when doing far flung missions can be a little misleading
L334[14:03:26] <JVFoxy> shower = ease sore back. working on 3rd cup coffee, still feeling drowsy because been up since 7am and shower tried to put me to sleep
L335[14:15:17] <Althego> nasa is putting out trailer-like videos on youtube the last few days about lunar exploration
L336[14:16:08] <Althego> sounds nice, but elon is going to beat them to mars like this. which is strange, because the roles are reversed
L337[14:16:44] <JVFoxy> meh
L338[14:16:55] <JVFoxy> the moment its a contest, I worry about people's safey
L339[14:17:06] <JVFoxy> *safety..
L340[14:17:28] <JVFoxy> maybe I should fix the thing inside this k/b.. just a pain
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L344[14:38:14] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, wouldn't the much more likely scenario be that NASA would be paying elon to go there?
L345[14:38:35] <Althego> as it looks now, not really
L346[14:39:35] <Eddi|zuHause> and didn't trump say "but what about the moon?"
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L349[14:41:58] <JVFoxy> I'm not American but anyone else think Trump was going to push NASA off the table for 'better things'?
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L351[14:42:12] * darsie refuels the Eve sample return rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot133.png
L352[14:43:24] <hoglahoo> hmm
L353[14:44:06] <hoglahoo> how does that survive reentry without running out of fuel
L354[14:44:13] <hoglahoo> do you have another refueling tank in eve orbit
L355[14:44:15] <JVFoxy> pretty strong struts to make it through atmos without breaking :)
L356[14:44:16] <Althego> it doesnt :)
L357[14:44:28] <Eddi|zuHause> JVFoxy: that's the "fun" part: he always says two opposite things in close succession, so later he can point back and say he always said this, no matter which way it goes
L358[14:45:03] <darsie> hoglahoo: I hope I have enough fuel for a sufficient entry burn.
L359[14:45:13] <darsie> hoglahoo: Gonna refuel at Gilly, too.
L360[14:45:51] <hoglahoo> oh yeah I guess gilly is basically a fuel tanker
L361[14:45:59] <JVFoxy> you know why he does it right? It gets him more attention... it may not be right but it draws people away from wahtever else is going on
L362[14:46:34] <hoglahoo> kinda like how chatting politics in #ksp draws people away from darsie's eve mission
L363[14:46:52] <JVFoxy> I get to gilly, would love a little rock shack there
L364[14:47:05] <JVFoxy> well... shack sits on a rock. Basically a station with a clamp
L365[14:47:19] <hoglahoo> rock shack baby!
L366[14:47:36] <hoglahoo> all this does is remind me of my last failed venus rescue
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L368[14:48:17] <JVFoxy> I keep wondering what names to give station.. mun shack, shelter, recently 'cloud' for the mun but translated in Ukranian.
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L370[14:49:05] <JVFoxy> lol... I named a relay around the Mun 'Rabbit'... dropped it into a flyby with an old booster from docking mission.
L371[14:51:14] <JVFoxy> eh anyways.. sorries
L372[14:52:52] <hoglahoo> I'm disappointed with every name I've ever come up with for flags
L373[14:53:07] <Althego> hehe
L374[14:53:15] <Althego> cant really write anything there
L375[15:04:38] <JVFoxy> same
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L378[15:32:41] <TransitBiker> so on the topic of below ambient air cooling?..
L379[15:33:19] <TransitBiker> what if the heat sinks are over-sized for the job in cooling capacity/saturation rate?
L380[15:35:15] <TransitBiker> i mean the air flow though this chasis is ? you can feel the air moving toward the front fan seversl inches away
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L390[16:18:15] <nickname_unknown> o hai
L391[16:19:33] <nickname_unknown> #kspofficial
L392[16:19:39] <nickname_unknown> dfvdfg
L393[16:19:44] <flayer> hi
L394[16:19:45] <Mod9000> Hello, flayer
L395[16:19:46] <nickname_unknown> diderfish
L396[16:20:03] <nickname_unknown> o hai
L397[16:20:17] <nickname_unknown> flayer
L398[16:20:22] <nickname_unknown> oooff
L399[16:20:26] <nickname_unknown> ooof
L400[16:20:32] <flayer> are you ok?
L401[16:20:39] <nickname_unknown> yes
L402[16:21:00] <nickname_unknown> #iloveksp
L403[16:21:08] <flayer> it is a fun game
L404[16:21:13] <nickname_unknown> yep
L405[16:21:30] <Tank2333> he is overwhelmed by this futureristic tech called IRC
L406[16:21:38] <JVFoxy> ... lol, makes me think 'player unknown' now
L407[16:21:48] <nickname_unknown> pubg
L408[16:22:12] <Tank2333> is #iloveksp a channel?
L409[16:22:17] <nickname_unknown> no
L410[16:22:18] <Tank2333> im confused
L411[16:22:34] <Tank2333> but its has a hashtag!
L412[16:22:39] <nickname_unknown> its just a message
L413[16:22:39] <Tank2333> its=it
L414[16:22:44] <nickname_unknown> yep
L415[16:22:56] <nickname_unknown> tank23333
L416[16:23:16] <Tank2333> in irc land # is for channel
L417[16:23:23] <nickname_unknown> ok
L418[16:23:27] <flayer> its the same for twitter
L419[16:23:37] <Tank2333> flayer dont ruin this
L420[16:23:45] <nickname_unknown> o hai
L421[16:24:13] <nickname_unknown> " irc land "
L422[16:24:17] <Tank2333> ^^
L423[16:24:21] <flayer> Tank2333: what? if you add a #hashtag to your tweet, you post in the #hashtag channel
L424[16:24:35] <flayer> irc does this as well under the hood
L425[16:24:44] <Tank2333> i know
L426[16:24:49] <Tank2333> i was joking
L427[16:25:00] <flayer> Yeah, its literally the same thing
L428[16:25:19] <nickname_unknown> im going to launch a kerbil into space
L429[16:25:26] <flayer> sounds like a plan
L430[16:25:34] <flayer> i'm going to launch myself into bed
L431[16:25:36] <nickname_unknown> yep
L432[16:25:46] <Tank2333> check yo stagin
L433[16:27:07] <nickname_unknown> any second now
L434[16:28:04] <JVFoxy> kerbal tossing
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L437[16:29:15] <nickname_unknown> i killed a kebal cuz he had no helmet
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L439[16:29:57] <nickname_unknown> pingpong
L440[16:30:11] <nickname_unknown> flayer: wow
L441[16:31:34] <Rolf> by vacuum breathing?
L442[16:31:55] <nickname_unknown> "found lying by the other side of the road"
L443[16:32:22] <nickname_unknown> yes rolf
L444[16:32:41] <Rolf> lol ok
L445[16:32:54] <Rolf> erm why pm?
L446[16:33:11] <nickname_unknown> what does pm mean?
L447[16:33:17] <Rolf> private message
L448[16:33:23] <nickname_unknown> o
L449[16:33:56] <nickname_unknown> cuz i wanted to see what happens and he exploded
L450[16:34:39] <nickname_unknown> cuz i wanted to see what happens and he exploded pm
L451[16:35:15] <Rolf> cruel.. lol
L452[16:38:41] <nickname_unknown> ok
L453[16:39:28] <nickname_unknown> im going to launch a hyper sonic plane swh
L454[16:40:56] <JVFoxy> sorry.. 'launching kerbals' had me thinking when youtuber was making 'kerbal recovery systems' Basically a pair of counter acting engines. Jump kerbal into rocket blast...
L455[16:41:43] <Rolf> jv yeah I remember that
L456[16:42:28] <JVFoxy> among other 'game breaking' things...
L457[16:42:42] <JVFoxy> mean while, I'm here, trying to play a bit more serious. c.c;
L458[16:42:49] <Rolf> and literal world shattering lol man that recant danny video
L459[16:43:03] <JVFoxy> 'world destroyer'...
L460[16:43:32] <nickname_unknown> im launching a hyper sonic plane
L461[16:44:14] <JVFoxy> I've done some weird stuff before... one of them, launching probes using couple of landing legs. Set spring and damp down to 0..
L462[16:44:35] <JVFoxy> compresses, then suddenly shoots off into teh air at like 50g or so
L463[16:46:10] <nickname_unknown> ok
L464[16:46:35] <JVFoxy> other thing was messing with sepratrons as part of a stage. Had something like 30 on one strut. load on pad, things just went nuts, guessing too much clipping? (was way early version KSP)
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L467[16:49:19] <nickname_unknown> WOW winks
L468[16:49:28] <nickname_unknown> bye bye
L469[16:49:52] <JVFoxy> mm k
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L477[17:40:40] <Tank2333> https://youtu.be/-s0KNypfQfk?t=15
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L479[17:40:55] <Tank2333> like this JVFoxy?
L480[17:42:57] <JVFoxy> mmmm.. not quite
L481[17:43:46] <JVFoxy> had probe body on a strut block. block had 20 or something seperatrons. launch pad. some reason, when it loaded, I guess they bounced between each other, seperated and went flying before I could stage
L482[17:44:58] <Tank2333> loading was always critical
L483[17:45:54] <JVFoxy> I haven't tried since.. mostly was in sandbox mode those days
L484[17:49:09] <Tank2333> found an old video, tested ejecting payload at full throttle with a spaceplane https://youtu.be/eylAAnjbh40?t=117
L485[17:50:39] <Tank2333> somehow it had too much thrust on the right and turned left on the ramp, wich destroyed 2 engines and made it controllable
L486[17:53:22] <JVFoxy> guessing not enough air intake..
L487[17:53:28] <JVFoxy> causes some engines to starve
L488[17:57:41] <Tank2333> yeah maybe
L489[18:01:18] <JVFoxy> sometimes helps to throttle partly.. wait till you get moving, then go max
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L494[18:18:15] * darsie didn't bring radiators. Ore/fuel production is inefficient. Might take a few years to fill that tanks.
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L497[18:22:13] <darsie> 93 minutes real time.
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