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L3[01:19:12] <packbart> "try switching
from KerbalJointReinforcementContinued to
KerbalJointReinforcementNext" - is that stuff really useful? I
tried (some) KJR once and it wobbled my large fuel station to
destruction. didn't happen without KJR
L4[01:19:49] <packbart> admittely, the fuel
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L5[01:20:01] <packbart> so not exactly a
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L6[01:23:26] <Althego> it used to beú
L7[01:23:42] <Althego> used to be
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L8[01:24:01] <Althego> but i think if you
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L9[01:30:07] <packbart> "Expanding a
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done with KSP" - heh. floating points, I guess
L10[01:30:57] <packbart> that
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with ksp
L12[01:42:13] <packbart> managing the
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L32[03:50:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure some
people would play that game
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L39[05:15:41] <Mat2ch> That's why I have a
Ryzen...
L40[05:16:13] <Eddi|zuHause> .. i have a 9
year old Phenom II
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L43[06:01:19] <Lyneira> Is this a bunch of
kernel options turning off various exploit protections?
L44[06:20:38] <Althego> yes it looks liek
that
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L46[07:07:10] <Mat2ch> It is, yes. And you
only want to do that if you're sure nothing will exploit it
L47[07:07:36] <Mat2ch> Don't use a browser
on that system for example
L48[07:10:27] <Althego> isnt amd immune to
spectre and meltdown?
L49[07:11:04] <Althego> also i thought the
kernel changes were necessary only until the microcode update
happened
L50[07:18:00] <Mat2ch> iirc some fixes can
only be done in the kernel
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L90[12:38:30] <Althego> scott
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L95[13:12:59] <UmbralRaptop> That's a lot
of DLC
L96[13:14:31] <Althego> dont need to buy
all. i just linked it because it is off
L97[13:16:56] <Althego> i remember
something of a bygone era, the 486 dlc :)
L98[13:18:59] <Althego> the game lokos
interesting but its price and all the dlcs deter me from buying
it
L99[13:21:58] <TheKosmonaut> Worst for DLC
is still EU4
L100[13:22:32] <TheKosmonaut> I had a lot
of it till last year and I sorta stopped. I reckon I'd have to buy
a few now to be up to date.
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L102[13:32:31] <umaxtu> TheKosmonaut, I'm
kinda surprised Paradox hasn't created a subscription service
L103[13:32:44] <TheKosmonaut> Pls
L104[13:32:52] <TheKosmonaut> Don't give
those swedes any ideas.
L105[13:33:12] <umaxtu> might actually be
worth it for the more casual players
L106[13:35:26] <Althego> hehe this intel
security vulnerability is worse than i thought. apparently the only
way to fix it is to disable hyperthreading
L107[13:36:44] <umaxtu> whens the rumored
release date for zen 2?
L108[13:37:59] <Tank2333_> 3rd quarter
this year
L109[13:38:17] <Tank2333_> maybe more info
at computex
L110[13:38:23] <umaxtu> ouch, I thought it
was going to be earlier
L111[13:38:23] <Tank2333_> computax
L112[13:38:33] <Tank2333_> combotax
L113[13:39:04] <Tank2333_> still earlier
than intel :)
L114[13:40:27] <Tank2333_> maybe they
abandoning consumer desktop cpu completley and only doing laptop
server and GPU stuff
L115[13:41:05] <umaxtu> nah, they won't
ever completely abandon it
L116[13:42:06] <Tank2333_> their roadmap
doesnt list any 10nm desktop, and the roadmap goes up to 2021 or
so
L117[13:42:48] <Althego> hehe
L118[13:43:07] <Althego> which means i am
returning to amd after all these years
L119[13:43:14] <Tank2333_> i feel the
same
L120[13:44:23] <Tank2333_> samsung are
prototyping 3nm "allaround FET" maybe ill go Arm till i
need an upgrade )
L121[13:45:05] <Althego> i want to buy a
few raspberry pi 4s, but it is happening only next year
L122[13:45:24] <Althego> the desktop is
slowly aging, but still ok for 1-2 years
L123[13:45:29] <Tank2333_> are running a
bot farm?
L124[13:45:53] <Althego> so i can just sit
back and see who wins the cpu war, and the gpu war
L125[13:46:34] <Tank2333_> i have a i7
4730 or so, i think that will do for a few years
L126[13:47:18] <umaxtu> 4790k here. my
only problem is that I'm starting to feel low on cores
L127[13:47:20] <Tank2333_> maybe intels
kicks out amd from the GPU market, that would be funny
L128[13:47:31] <Althego> i doubt it
L129[13:48:56] <Tank2333_> and than Nvidea
buys Intel :)
L130[13:49:19] <Althego> and then google
buys all :)
L131[13:49:40] <Tank2333_> and after that
Volkswagen buys Google because they can
L132[13:49:51] <Tank2333_> and Tesla
L133[13:49:57] <Althego> and install an
engine that fakes search results? :)
L134[13:50:18] <Tank2333_> google will be
Germified
L135[13:50:30] <Tank2333_>
Germanyfied
L136[13:50:37] <Althego> the horror
L137[13:51:03] <Tank2333_> and guess who
sits on top? Mother Merkel
L138[13:51:34] <Tank2333_> world
domination... finally
L139[13:51:50] <Althego> i still havent
completely healed from the damage the germans did to me. it has
been only 3 years. i needed more for the finns too
L140[13:52:48] <Tank2333_> what
damage?
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L143[13:54:06] <Althego> bad
experiences
L144[13:54:23] <Tank2333> Lederhosen are
not for everyone :)
L145[13:54:27] <Althego> lol
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L147[13:56:12] <Tank2333> so i guess i
cant convince you to work at the company im working in? they would
Give me 2500€ if you drop my name :),
L148[13:56:36] <JVFoxy> ...
L149[13:57:33] <Tank2333> Furniture
Factory with a small inhouse software dev team
L150[13:58:03] <Althego> furniture with
software, lol
L151[13:58:24] <Althego> ok, one day
probably all our everyday items are going to have code running on
them
L152[13:58:43] <JVFoxy> once had a friend
try to convince me to join up on WoW.. I never did. Then I found
out they would have gotten a free month or something for each
person they got to join up. I felt somewhat.. conflicte
L153[13:59:00] <Tank2333> For intranet
applications and framework stuff i guess
L154[14:01:48] <Tank2333> the stuff we
sell is Mostly dump... except the motorized desks and i think with
motorized sliding doors (not sure who the hell would need
that)
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L157[14:07:31] <Althego> i always admired
the original experiment
L158[14:07:44] <Althego> to measure the
speed of light without lasers, with purely mechanical
equipment
L159[14:07:52] <Althego> that needed a lot
of smart thinking
L160[14:08:15] <Althego> funny unit of
measurement here: pixels / rpm
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L162[14:21:35] <Tank2333> Im watching the
second season of Startrek discovery... second episode and the
violated the prime directive after discussing that they shouldnt
violate it
L163[14:22:17] <Althego> i didnt even know
it was running
L164[14:22:23] <Althego> then i heard bad
things about this
L165[14:22:25] <Althego> it
L166[14:22:42] <Althego> so just as with
star wars, this era is also the end of star trek
L167[14:22:54] <umaxtu> 2nd season is
better. The Orville still feels more like traditional Star
Trek
L168[14:23:03] <Althego> yes, that is what
i gathered too
L169[14:24:19] <JVFoxy> miss the ol' TNG
days?
L170[14:25:21] <Tank2333> what i miss the
most is that in TNG the captain acted like a capatain, only gives
orders and thinks about stuff
L171[14:26:19] <Tank2333> the 1st season
of discovery kinda went bananas half way through the half before
was the same :)
L172[14:31:04] <JVFoxy> Pricard had a bit
of a story behind him as well..
L173[14:31:16] <Tank2333> wow... they went
to a planet far away with a settlement with people escaped WW3, but
after 200 years they dont even have electricity
L174[14:31:33] <JVFoxy> I remember when
they were talk'n bout the one for DS9 before it was to come out..
don't remember too much though
L175[14:31:55] <Tank2333> they did not
even try to invent things... just build a church and praised to
god
L176[14:41:22] <JVFoxy> I'm about to place
a station in mun orbit.. I'm having troubles trying to figure a
good orbiting height. I don't want too low.. or overly high.
L177[14:42:29] <Tank2333> 7km
L178[14:42:51] <Althego> i would put it a
bit higher just because of the time acceleration limit
L179[14:43:18] <UmbralRaptop> Depending on
how much docking/undocking pushes it, maybe slightly higher?
L180[14:43:44] <JVFoxy> ya.. I keep
forgetting about accel limited buy alt..
L181[14:44:13] <JVFoxy> lol.. 7km.. far
far too low. I figured at least starting around 30km up...
L182[14:46:46] <JVFoxy> pondering on a
project: would orbital time periods of various altitudes be of any
use to people?
L183[14:47:31] <Althego> not really,
except for stationary
L184[14:47:45] <Althego> or maybe in
reality sun sync
L185[14:49:49] <JVFoxy> more I guess
wondering how long my crew on the surface has before a launch
window to get back up to the station, when station is at various
orbits.
L186[14:51:29] <JVFoxy> actually maybe a
personal test project.. I know dv map talks about how much from
14km up.. but not about other alts..
L187[14:52:09] <Althego> doesnt really
matter in the case of the moon
L188[14:52:37] <Althego> but even for eve
or tylo, a few 10 kms dont make much difference
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L190[14:52:46] <Althego> i have to
sleep
L191[14:52:52] <Althego> to see the launch
tomorrow
L192[14:53:51] <Tank2333> wich
launch?
L193[14:54:21] <Althego> spaex
starlink
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L195[14:54:25] <JVFoxy> derp
L196[14:54:31] <Althego> 4:30
L197[14:54:40] <Tank2333> why didnt elonj
tell me....
L198[14:55:12] <Tank2333> oh i might can
catch that
L199[14:56:35] <Althego> but spacex
did
L200[14:56:41] <Althego> today it was
scrubbed
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L202[14:56:59] <Althego> stream went on
for a minute, and a guy told us that no launch today
L203[15:06:01] <Althego> hehe automated
cat soaking gun
L204[15:06:12] <Althego> like the turret
in aliens
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L228[17:38:18] <JVFoxy> Hmm... futzing
around with some numbers and a graph...
L229[17:38:38] <JVFoxy> did a thing for
the mun....
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L233[17:46:22] <UmbralRaptop> JVFoxy:
indirectly?
L234[17:46:57] <UmbralRaptop> Something
something T = 2π sqrt(a³/GM)
L235[17:48:14] <JVFoxy> I was just
thinking if I had done this around Kerbin, the curve would be more
noticeable.. I'm not even sure how one would measure the
curve..
L236[17:49:58] <UmbralRaptop> I'd suggest
trying a power law fit >_>
L237[17:51:03] <JVFoxy> I mostly wanted a
quick reference. I was even considering a deltav change for various
altitudes, but wasn't sure how I'd add that into things.
L238[17:52:14] <JVFoxy> Delta V maps talk
about lowest possible heights. Some cases I don't wanna go quite
/that/ low...
L239[17:55:20] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, you
could work out equations for ΔV for transferring to or from a fixed
orbit
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L241[18:00:33] <JVFoxy> 14km I feel is a
bit low for my station... I mean... it probably doesn't matter if
going directly to the surface from outside.
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L243[18:06:14] <JVFoxy> reading the thing
on the sci lab...
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L245[18:08:04] <JVFoxy> the wiki seems a
bit confusing when it comes to how the lab deals with data... %10
extra while on surface other than on kerbin. %25 extra while in
orbit of same SOI experiment was taken on
L246[18:08:22] <JVFoxy> yet.. says from
100 while on surface it makes 138, but in orbit only does
125..?
L247[18:10:01] <JVFoxy> unless it means a
penalty if experiment isn't processed in same region it was
gathered..?
L248[18:12:33] <JVFoxy> .. oh derp.. n/m.
surface, both bonuses added, in space just the one.. n/m..
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L275[23:36:26] <Draconiator>
https://i.gyazo.com/761ecc4484dc8deac658467388507d8f.jpg
- Decided I didn't need my 8GB SSD anymore (found out my smaller
hard drive loads Linux just as fast for some reason)...so got rid
of the bulky case and that blue board is the 8GB SSD I'm using for
a cache now. Thinking of putting it onto the empty drive bay with
electrical tape though...
L276[23:37:50] <Althego> lol 8 gb
L277[23:37:57] <Althego> my first ssd was
8 gb
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L280[23:43:07] <Draconiator> Graphics card
in the upper right, managed to get it in there somehow.