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L2[00:13:38] <Althego> hehe don't enter tall grass (raptors) https://techreport.com/r.x/2018_06_25_The_TR_BBQ_XV_proves_that_less_can_be_more/beach2.jpg
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L13[01:50:44] <Althego> the tiny ship is now down to 4.18 t starting mass (with kerbals), and tested to land on duna. i think i could make to laythe easily
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L27[04:45:29] <Eddi|zuHause> well... a sand dune is a fragile thing, so if the grass is gone, the dune is gone quickly
L28[04:47:11] <Eddi|zuHause> ... but try communicating that to the people whose only mindset is to want to take the shortest path to the beach?
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L52[08:51:49] <falalilal> oh boy
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L57[09:16:52] <UmbralRaptor> … do I *have* to attack people who get into the grass? =\
L58[09:17:20] <Eddi|zuHause> yes. them's the rules.
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L61[09:53:33] <JVFoxy> huh... ok whoops. found out there are building biomes, but haven't sit right on them. Forgot to snag em with the sci-jr can thing, but got most everything else.
L62[09:54:32] <JVFoxy> also.. after launching something, finding it'll fail before it can do a mission, hitting go to tracking station than reverting by accident.. >_<
L63[09:55:04] <JVFoxy> thank the stars for backup files, even if game hides them
L64[09:58:14] <packbart> that is a very useful feature
L65[10:01:18] <JVFoxy> persistent files in backup folder.. I usually just and 'revert' file but.. went too far back
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L72[10:34:34] <Althego> there are sub building genomes
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L74[11:07:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i use [X]Science for telling me whether i missed some biomes
L75[11:07:25] <Eddi|zuHause> like, when you upgrade buildings it creates new biomes
L76[11:09:11] <Eddi|zuHause> collecting them is a nice test for rover designs
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L83[11:21:05] <JVFoxy> lol... how to get landed crew report while on the water...
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L85[11:21:46] <Eddi|zuHause> that's possible
L86[11:21:55] <JVFoxy> actually...
L87[11:21:59] <Eddi|zuHause> if you have a heavy rover that sinks to the ground
L88[11:22:16] <JVFoxy> while it'll only net ya 2 RPs, you can just jet a pontoon platform out onto the water.. land a little thing on top
L89[11:22:38] <Eddi|zuHause> it's not only crew report
L90[11:22:40] <JVFoxy> somehow it showed up in my archives as being 0 recovered.. was like, how?
L91[11:22:56] <Eddi|zuHause> also, temperature, EVA, atmosphere, sci jr, ...
L92[11:23:09] <JVFoxy> a little research, turns out you land a craft on another craft while on the water. It considers you landed on water instead of spashed down
L93[11:23:27] <JVFoxy> hmm..
L94[11:23:40] <JVFoxy> ok.. worth a check. as much of a pain it was to land on the platform.
L95[11:23:40] <Eddi|zuHause> there's a few tricky ones
L96[11:23:46] <Eddi|zuHause> like splashed down in the mountains :p
L97[11:24:23] <JVFoxy> mm... eva while flying low and while flying high
L98[11:24:38] <Eddi|zuHause> that's easy
L99[11:24:47] <Eddi|zuHause> flying low is jumping
L100[11:24:57] <JVFoxy> did some stupid crazy craft to hit some 'above 19km' waypoints.. its basically a highflying hover car thing on rockets
L101[11:24:59] <Eddi|zuHause> and flying high you can do just on the edges of the atmosphere
L102[11:26:31] * JVFoxy drives pontoon back out onto water..
L103[11:28:38] <JVFoxy> kit out the rocket pod
L104[11:28:58] <JVFoxy> basically two mk1 command pods back to back, set of 4 jet engines, fuel intakes
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L107[11:35:21] <JVFoxy> ... ok whoops.
L108[11:35:32] <JVFoxy> looks like I nearly missed all the science from water too...
L109[11:35:50] <JVFoxy> I managed to touch the platform but it wobbled, knocked me into the water.
L110[11:36:01] <JVFoxy> figured, just try something, oh.. nothing sci done from water even
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L112[11:36:42] <JVFoxy> good thing brought bob along to reset things
L113[11:39:02] <JVFoxy> ugh.. ok forget jet lag on the throttle.. soon as you start moving, air movement starts piling on the thrust more. >_<
L114[11:48:58] <JVFoxy> ... finallly
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L123[13:02:19] <Black_Eagle> I made it! My first Minmus SSTO that was actually lovely to fly!
L124[13:02:41] <lordcirth__> Black_Eagle, pics?!
L125[13:05:11] <Althego> congrats
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L128[13:14:48] <JVFoxy> ... tempted to stream a mission.......
L129[13:27:04] <Black_Eagle> lordcirth__ sure! in a sec
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L134[14:00:22] <darsie> Pleiades :) http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot81.png
L135[14:02:51] <Althego> no decoupler
L136[14:03:08] <Althego> you need to do a partially prpulsive landing
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L138[14:03:54] <senray> Is there a way to get MJ or KER to display DELTA-V remaining in a booster stage if it is staged right now?
L139[14:04:57] <JVFoxy> game versions 1.6 and 1.7 currently do that now.. depending on how you setup your staging list
L140[14:05:45] <senray> the stock dV?
L141[14:06:39] <JVFoxy> ya
L142[14:06:39] <lordcirth__> senray, KER does that by default
L143[14:06:47] <lordcirth__> Under Vessel
L144[14:07:06] <JVFoxy> also sorry I haven't messed with KER in a long while
L145[14:07:47] <senray> what do ya know
L146[14:07:50] <senray> Thanks very much!
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L148[14:29:20] <darsie> Did you see the Pleiades?
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L153[14:40:40] <UmbralRaptor> darsie: yes o_O
L154[14:40:49] <Black_Eagle> also Althego thanks
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L158[15:37:58] <Black_Eagle> lordcirth__ https://imgur.com/K6x6yN3 https://imgur.com/tGaULG1 so that's 2 rapier, 2 nerva and 2 aerospike in the bay
L159[15:38:29] <lordcirth__> Black_Eagle, nice!
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L161[15:43:25] <Black_Eagle> the margins are forgiving, flies nicely and is very controllable throughout the mission. i'm happy
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L169[16:19:58] <darsie> UmbralRaptor: In the screenshot I posted?
L170[16:20:10] <UmbralRaptor> yeah
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L173[16:29:18] <Eddi|zuHause> the pleiades are probably the oldest recognized star formation
L174[16:30:10] <darsie> Why not any larger one?
L175[16:30:40] <Eddi|zuHause> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himmelsscheibe_von_Nebra
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L190[18:51:47] <packbart> wow, this looks like a very complex autopilot system. I've got to try it. https://github.com/allista/ThrottleControlledAvionics/blob/master/GameData/ThrottleControlledAvionics/INSTRUCTIONS.md
L191[18:52:11] <packbart> it can probably make brick fly (and land) as long as it's got some engines anywhere
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L198[19:37:06] <JVFoxy> sitting here.. wondering how I got 10 science reports on one or two biomes but 9 on a bunch of others.. took kerbal out on EVA while ship was 'floating'... hmm
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L200[19:40:06] <JVFoxy> lol.. someone said to jump kerbal and take EVA while in air... yup, flying over shore biome while jumping works on runway. Wish I knew that earlier
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L215[20:55:21] <UmbralRaptor> At least you do nor?
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L225[22:37:15] <JVFoxy> going through my screen shots... seemed to have caught a bad moment by accident? https://imgur.com/a/39Ko3CJ
L226[22:37:40] <JVFoxy> I know he says check yo staging and all.. but.. sometimes its not always easy to catch.. :\
L227[22:38:32] <JVFoxy> think I was trying to 'scramble' for the 'esc' key .. hit F1 by mistake on the way over..
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L230[23:18:18] <JVFoxy> yo
L231[23:24:31] <Rolf> yay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6KeeXCoxs
L232[23:26:43] <Althego> lol the zigzag orbits
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L234[23:29:44] <Althego> hehe flat kerbin
L235[23:30:14] <Althego> not time for the flat earth videos just yet, but i already have a 3 hour long from yesterday
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L237[23:34:45] <Rolf> oh man
L238[23:34:48] <Rolf> great video
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