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L21[04:43:49] <kmath> YouTube - What would
it Look like with all the planets between the earth and the
moon?
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L24[04:51:53] <nate> I feel like they could
have at least attempted a more realistic approach with that
:P
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L26[05:00:45] <Rolf> more realistic: most
worlds tear apart inside roche limit
L27[05:01:31] <Rolf> all planets together
might manage to fuse and turn into red dwarf sun
L28[05:02:26] <Althego> probably not enough
mass. jupiter would eat everything
L29[05:02:36] <Althego> and still remain
jupiter
L30[05:02:46] <Rolf> isnt there tiny range
called "hot jovian"?
L31[05:03:25] <Althego> usually called hot
jupiters. gas giant orbiting very close to their sun
L32[05:03:49] <Rolf> no, other kind, just
not quite enough to go full on sun but fusing a bit
L33[05:03:59] <Althego> that is the brown
dwarf
L34[05:04:07] <Althego> but those are way
bigger
L35[05:04:29] <Rolf> surpised nephine and
saturn added in still isnt enough
L36[05:05:15] <Althego> saturn is less than
100 earth masses, jupiter is more than 300
L37[05:05:26] <Althego> and the ice giants
are not too big
L38[05:05:51] <Rolf> brown dwarf basically
how many earths?
L39[05:06:02] <Althego> i doubt there is a
fine limit
L40[05:06:23] <Althego> the fact is, all
the other planets combined wouldnt increase the mass of jupiter
with more than 50%
L41[05:06:33] <Rolf> just need rough minium
to get picture for compare
L42[05:06:54] <Althego> so not really a
significant increase for a jump in properties
L43[05:07:42] <Althego> there are gas
giants way biggerthan jupiter
L44[05:07:55] <Althego> from wiki (brown
dwarf): having a mass between approximately 13 to 75–80 times that
of Jupiter
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L49[06:06:40] <Eddi|zuHause> funnily
enough, if you add another jupiter to jupiter, it doesn't actually
get bigger (by volume)
L50[06:07:14] <Eddi|zuHause> it just gets
denser
L51[06:08:28] <Eddi|zuHause> and all the
planets combined get maybe 1% the mass of the sun
L52[06:09:51] <Rolf> eddi one of
interesting issac youtube show he menions if we use starlifting to
remove helium, sun would last much longer
L53[06:09:54] <Rolf> wonder if we will do
it
L54[06:10:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think
that is within our engineering reach any time soon :p
L55[06:16:45] <packbart> can't we just find
a new sun by that time? ;)
L57[06:19:24] <Eddi|zuHause> why, if a
newspaper titles "No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No." i have
the words "Galileo Figaro" popping in my head?
L58[06:19:50] <UmbralRaptop> Obviously we
should split the sun into 3-12 fully convective red dwarfs
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L62[06:31:18] <Rolf> packbart: sure but
then if we keep buch of suns alive for much much longer, it ensures
our civilizion lasts way past "lumious" era
L63[06:48:58] <Althego> then use black
holes for energy source
L64[06:49:06] <Althego> those last for
really long time
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L70[07:22:27] <Liam1973> Hello
L71[07:22:29] <Mod9000> Hello,
Liam1973
L72[07:23:05] <Liam1973> Whats your
favorite mod?
L73[07:23:24] <Liam1973> nevermind
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L75[07:23:32] <Althego> lol
L76[07:29:56] <sandbox> yes, that's how
this works
L77[07:43:16] <UmbralRaptop>
adasfshdfhs
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L79[08:00:48] <darsie> aoeuaoeuaoeiu
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L91[09:52:34] <Fluburtur> ;wa 120kw at
1000m
L92[09:52:37] <kmath> Fluburtur: 120
Kennedy Wilson->closing price->Wednesday, January 1, 1000 AD
(extrapolated Gregorian calendar) to Wednesday, December 31, 1000
AD (extrapolated Gregorian calendar) meter: (insufficient data --
this crap is too long.
L93[09:52:44] <Fluburtur> no
L94[09:53:01] <Fluburtur> ;wa radiatoed
power of 120kilowatts at 1000 meters
L95[09:53:05] <kmath> Fluburtur: Wolfram
couldn't understand your gibberish
L96[09:53:19] <Fluburtur> ;wa radiated
power of 120kilowatts at 1000 meters
L97[09:53:24] <kmath> Fluburtur: Wolfram
couldn't understand your gibberish
L98[09:57:51] <snow> probably 120kW!
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L100[09:58:52] <Fluburtur> some peoples on
my discord server want to power something useful from ambiant EM
radiation
L101[09:59:56] <snow> how much you can
pick up depends on more than distance
L102[09:59:58] <Althego> maybe from some
old style am-dsb radio
L103[10:00:04] <snow> like... surface area
or antenna size
L104[10:00:30] <Fluburtur> I just told the
guy that radio communication isnt energy but data transfer and he
says I need to learn about radio
L105[10:02:30] <nate> Fluburtur: How do
you think wireless charging works?
L106[10:02:38] <nate> Radio is a type of
EM
L107[10:02:54] <Fluburtur> is only works
at very close range however
L108[10:03:20] <nate> yes but you think
it's charging a device purely with bytes?
L109[10:04:03] <Fluburtur> no, however
getting power from a random radio station dozen of kilometers away
is another matter
L110[10:04:38] <UmbralRaptop> Does
sunlight count ad ambient?
L111[10:04:49] <Althego> hehe
L112[10:04:55] <Althego> yes, use solar
cells
L113[10:05:25] <nate> Fluburtur: Sure, but
EM literally is energy, you're saying it's not at all, at least
that was the implication I got from your line :P
L114[10:05:34] <nate> How effective it is
at a distance is irrelevant to what it is :P
L115[10:06:02] <Fluburtur> yeah but the
guy is looking to get a few watts of power out of thin air
basically
L116[10:07:06] <nate> At what distance? A
few watts isn't that hard at close distance, most of the wireless
chargers these days are around 10w I believe
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L118[10:10:05] <Fluburtur> dude said a few
miles
L119[10:11:13] <UmbralRaptop> whelp
L120[10:12:51] <UmbralRaptop> (eg: 1 watt
at 3 km is 90 kW at 10 m)
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L122[10:14:42] <Fluburtur> then there is
absorbtion of the power by the environment
L123[10:16:09] <Althego> few hundred kws
might happen
L124[10:16:28] <Althego> so it is possible
you can get 1, maybe even 2 watts
L125[10:19:50] <Althego> it seems there
are still megawatt power transmitter towers still in operation in
europe
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L127[10:25:50] <Althego> hehe and electron
is still waiting for launch
L129[10:28:33] <kmath> YouTube - FIRING UP
THE TURBOJET!
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L137[11:51:57] <Guest60563> Anyone happen
to have a copy of the last version of ETO? I had a HD failure and
lost all my mod backups
L138[11:53:11] <UmbralRaptop> ETO?
L139[11:54:33] <UmbralRaptop> Extreme
Texture Overhaul? (link removed on the forums for licensing issue.
hrm)
L140[11:55:19] <Althego> shouldnt 1.7 be
out now?
L141[11:55:50] <Mat2ch> Licenseing issues?
What did they do?
L142[11:55:51] <UmbralRaptop>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L143[11:56:38] <Guest60563> Yea I know it
was removed. I had it before it was. Was using it up until a week
ago when my pc decided to die.
L144[11:57:02] <Guest60563> Having a hard
time living without my pretty pixels lol
L145[11:58:06] <UmbralRaptop> Mat2ch:
unclear, but something involving other mods, and the author hasn't
done anything to fix it in quite a few months
L146[11:58:18] <Eddi|zuHause> what is a
life without pixels?
L147[11:58:28] <Althego> analog
L148[11:58:28] <UmbralRaptop> I guess time
to poke at Scatterer, or something?
L149[11:58:30] <Althego> bleh
L150[11:59:04] <Eddi|zuHause> there's
quantized spacetime, that's basically the same as pixels,
right?
L151[11:59:20] <Althego> is it
quantized?
L152[11:59:45] <Eddi|zuHause> it was, last
time i looked it up...
L153[12:00:01] <Eddi|zuHause> it might
very well not be
L154[12:05:28] <UmbralRaptop> sort of, but
there's no need for a regular grid
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L156[12:08:15] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: We go to the Mun and do other things not
because they are hard but because we can quick load!
L157[12:08:59] <Fluburtur> yeah easy
then
L158[12:09:20] <Althego> hehe
L159[12:10:19] <Scolar_Visari> I'm sure
Gus Kerbin and the gang won't mind if I over pressurize their space
capsule to 10 atmospheres at launch with 100% nitrogen
L160[12:10:35] <Scolar_Visari> That way
there can't be any fire . . . Why are they suffocating?
L161[12:11:10] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch issue
solved, I dont have to make reward tiers on patreon
L162[12:13:35] <Althego> did you get the
2nd video outM
L163[12:13:40] <Fluburtur> not yet
L166[12:16:26] <Althego> hehe
L167[12:16:34] <Althego> how did they get
the snow?
L168[12:16:47] <Kalpa> Pls.
L169[12:16:48] <Althego> sprayed from the
central acis?
L170[12:17:49] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: I
recall reading about larger settlements being large enough to
facilitate clouds and precipitation. In this case, I'm assuming
snow making machines ala indoor ski slopes.
L172[12:18:19] <Althego> because
apparently nobody knows anymore how that data was stored
L174[12:18:59] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: On
tapes?
L175[12:19:37] <Althego> supposedly the
data is off the tapes now, but the format is unknown
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L179[12:23:35] *
Scolar_Visari ponders if all the contractors are now
dead.
L180[12:27:17] <Althego> even the voyagers
are kept going only by people in their 70s
L181[12:28:07] <Scolar_Visari> No doubt
operated by punch cards and electro-mechanical bombs.
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L184[12:53:09] <Althego> have i told this
joke already? what kind of does the programmer have? git pull
terrier
L185[12:53:27] <Althego> *kind of
dog
L186[12:53:56] <Althego> heh left out the
critical part
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L190[13:39:23] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: huh?
Did you assume you had to or did you decide against patreon?
L191[13:39:39] <Mat2ch> Althego:
Eddi|zuHause: And we're seeing in pixels. Does that count?
L192[13:40:06] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch nah
patreon iwll implement different types of systems for different
creators
L193[13:40:29] <Fluburtur> and one is for
smaller creators so no tiers, just one donation thing
L194[13:42:34] <Fluburtur> and given im
too lazy to create tiers and stuff that goes with it then it will
be easier
L195[13:42:41] <Fluburtur> just have goals
and stuff like that
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L197[14:15:24] <ezee> hey...what does
"Mm" mean when abbreviating distances from km?
L198[14:15:39] <Fluburtur> mega
meters
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L200[14:16:41] <ezee> Fluburtur thanks.
so, 1Mm = 1,000,000 meters?
L202[14:20:28] <ezee> if a MegaMeter is 1
million meters, then according to that: the high/low space border
for Kerbol is 1000Mm. One thousand million meters...so 1B
meters?
L203[14:20:52] <Althego> by that naming
gigameters
L204[14:21:39] <UmbralRaptop> yes to
everything in the past 2 lines
L205[14:26:49] <ezee> Althego so 1000Mm =
1Gm ?
L206[14:26:56] <Althego> yes
L207[14:26:59] <ezee> thanks.
L208[14:31:50] <ezee> sorry for all the
semantic questions, I'm reading KSP articles and reddit posts and
seeing terms I'm not familiar with. What is a 'perieve' and
'apoeve'....is that just different terms for Pe and Ap?
L209[14:32:13] <ezee> or are they indeed
'the Pe and Ap, above Eve'
L210[14:32:23] <Althego> closest and
farthest points in orbit around eve
L211[14:33:38] <Althego> peri and apo are
prefixes, the apsis ending is the generic ending, but may be
replaced by specific, like perigeum for earth, or apolune for the
moon. ok, ksp does not have the earth and the moon, but still have
other bodies
L212[14:35:11] <ezee> perfect, thank
you.
L213[14:35:23] <ezee> so the suffix can
give it body specific context
L214[14:41:24] <UmbralRaptop> yep
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L217[14:45:18] <ezee> for bodies that have
an atmosphere, I plan to define Pe = atmosphere + 1000m
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L219[14:45:44] <ezee> what's a good
formula to define Pe for bodies that do not have an
atmosphere?
L220[14:46:10] <UmbralRaptop> Depends on
your mission goals.
L221[14:47:06] <UmbralRaptop> I'd say that
generally lower orbits require less ΔV, but there are
complications
L222[14:47:28] <ezee> mssion goals would
be to achieve an orbit so that the periapsis to the lowest point
that will not impact the surface (see pastebinny bit above for
explanation)
L223[14:48:55] <ezee> looking for a
formula like 'radius * .1' or something (that would yield 20km Pe
for the mun, which seems a little high to me?)
L224[14:52:16] <ezee> or maybe just a
static value above the surface, like 10km?
L225[14:53:49] <UmbralRaptop> Depending on
the terrain, it could be something like 1-20 km.
L226[15:06:39] <Fluburtur> how do you grow
an audience on youtube
L227[15:06:53] <Fluburtur> beside posting
interesting stuff on a semi regular basis
L228[15:12:22] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: well,
post stuff!
L229[15:12:25] <Mat2ch> Where's part 2?
:D
L230[15:12:40] <Mat2ch> And maybe read
some comments
L231[15:13:01] <Fluburtur> there is like 3
comments on the first video
L232[15:13:05] <Mat2ch> not too much, but
be interested in your viewers and they'll recommend you to
others
L233[15:13:22] <Fluburtur> and I still
need confirmation of my guest
L234[15:13:34] <Fluburtur> I need to
bother my friend more for that
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L236[15:14:43] <Mat2ch> No, put him in
part 3.
L237[15:14:58] <Mat2ch> Content on regular
basis is more important
L238[15:15:03] <Fluburtur> can't, will be
out of place
L239[15:15:22] <Mat2ch> can you find
another way to make it fit?
L240[15:15:59] <Fluburtur> not
really
L241[15:16:13] <Fluburtur> I could release
episode 3 before episode 2
L242[15:16:31] <Fluburtur> since episode 3
has nothing to do with the wings
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L244[15:24:39] <Mat2ch> If you don't show
any finished wings, just the work on the main body for part 3, then
you've got your new part 2. :D
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L255[16:48:47] <kmath> YouTube - Handle
Robot Reimagined for Logistics
L256[16:53:27] <darsie> How can I find
asteroids in RSS?
L257[16:53:47] <Fluburtur> some peoples
are like "robots will replace jobs" but I hear no one
complaning that no one is lighting up the city lights every
evening
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L259[16:54:23] <ezee> are there any common
abbrevations or notation symbols for semi-major and major
axis?
L260[17:00:41] <darsie> SMA
L261[17:00:54] <darsie> MA = mean
anomaly
L262[17:15:46] <Fluburtur> c418 makes such
good music
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L264[17:35:30] <ezee> I have put together
a table, intended to provide the orbital parameters for every body
in the game. The orbit will cause the craft to be at various times
both high and low over every biome on the body, eventually
gathering all science that can be gathered from orbit. It's my
first work of this type, so hoping those more experienced will
check my
L266[17:50:46] <ezee> regarding the
statement "Both the periapsis and apoapsis should be exactly
at the body equator", is there a way in the game w/o mods to
determine when you are over the equator...or do you just have to
eyeball it?
L267[17:51:45] <UmbralRaptop> I don't
think so in stock KSP
L268[17:55:25] <ezee> cool. eyball it
is!
L269[17:55:26] <ezee> thx
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L274[18:39:03] <darsie> ezee: There's a
science item that displays lon/lat.
L275[18:39:24] <ezee> orly?
L276[18:39:30] <darsie> Kerbnet does,
too.
L277[18:39:50] <darsie> yeah, the biome
resource scanner or so.
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L281[18:41:41] <darsie> The Surface
Scanning Module is the only device that will give you a continuous
readout of your current biome, and your latitude and
longitude.
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L286[18:50:08] <ezee> cool...ill check
that out.
L287[18:50:38] <ezee> I am using scansat
(for the first time, now) and not having much luck. I _think_ it
doesn't like that I put it inside a materials bay.
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L302[23:45:10] <jeans> Hey I won
L303[23:45:52] <lordcirth_> jeans,
won?
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L306[23:49:43] <UmbralRaptop> grats?
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