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L13[03:32:12] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/d9a291e8b2739714852a728a05dd88df/tumblr_inline_pm2j41wcyv1rdt2a6_540.png
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L19[04:37:47] <Fluburtur> well, half of france is acting like it is the apocalypse because of some snow
L20[04:37:56] <Fluburtur> while the other half is like "im used to it"
L21[04:39:22] <Fluburtur> and when I mean half of france, it is the parisians who think all the world revolves around them
L22[04:39:46] <darsie> My bycicle works in 10 cm snow.
L23[04:41:59] <Fluburtur> there should be enough snow for my plane to work with skis
L24[04:42:18] <Fluburtur> and I glued them all the way forward so it shouldnt tip over
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L27[04:52:08] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: did you get the screws out?
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L29[04:53:57] <Fluburtur> nah
L30[04:54:06] <Fluburtur> the previous owner loctited them in
L31[04:54:13] <Fluburtur> so I will have to drill them out
L32[04:55:25] <Mat2ch> well, glueing them in sounds like good thing for rotor blades, but hex nuts are the wrong choice then...
L33[04:55:35] <Mat2ch> if you get them out, use torx
L34[04:55:58] <Fluburtur> well it is not the bolts that hold the rotor blades
L35[04:56:10] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186187106937339904/539796746247864331/DSC_0392.JPG
L36[04:56:25] <Fluburtur> this ones that go through the main shaft itself and hold the rotor head and main gear
L37[04:56:25] <Mat2ch> Ah
L38[04:56:37] <Mat2ch> that should be easy to remove
L39[04:57:12] <Fluburtur> it is supposed to be a weak point too
L40[04:57:17] <Mat2ch> use a dremel like thingy
L41[04:57:26] <Fluburtur> that bolt is supposed to break before anything else
L42[04:57:36] <Fluburtur> my dremel caught on fire
L43[04:57:48] <Fluburtur> I need a new one, not battery powered this time
L44[04:58:09] <Mat2ch> I would teleport mine over, but my teleporter is broken
L45[04:59:00] <Deddly> Can't you get someone else to teleport a teleporter to you, so you can teleport your dremel to Fluburtur, then you can teleport the teleporter back.
L46[04:59:08] <Deddly> ?
L47[05:01:03] <Mat2ch> I couldn't teleport the teleporter back, because I'd have to use mine to teleport it back
L48[05:01:09] <Deddly> Hmm
L49[05:01:13] <Deddly> Good point
L50[05:01:19] <Mat2ch> I could ask if someone sends me the spare parts so I can repair mine
L51[05:01:30] <Mat2ch> But I fear that nobody in a few lightyears has them in stock
L52[05:01:47] <Mat2ch> *some could send me
L53[05:01:56] <Mat2ch> *someone
L54[05:01:58] <Mat2ch> oh my
L55[05:02:15] <Deddly> Does it teleport at the speed of light? That could be a problem
L56[05:02:47] <Mat2ch> It's a matter to energy converter, so sadly yes
L57[05:03:12] <Deddly> OK, Fluburtur: maybe it's quicker to just use Ebay
L58[05:03:40] <Mat2ch> my ftl drive is also broken
L59[05:04:04] <Deddly> What do you do to all your stuff, man?
L60[05:04:07] <Mat2ch> It's sad. I'm stuck here with you :P
L61[05:04:32] <Mat2ch> I was young and thought I could some save credits by buying cheap stuff
L62[05:05:04] <Mat2ch> And now I have to wait until someone makes spare parts here
L63[05:05:14] <Mat2ch> could be a few hundred years still
L64[05:05:35] <Mat2ch> people still believe in Dark Matter here. It's hilarious
L65[05:06:01] <Deddly> Naaaah
L66[05:06:08] <Deddly> People still believe in FLAT EARTH here
L67[05:06:24] <Deddly> If you want something to be concerned about, that would be it
L68[05:06:36] <Mat2ch> and some act like the planet is spinning around them.
L69[05:07:08] <Mat2ch> Well, at least I will have to tell lots of funny stories, when I get home
L70[05:07:30] <Deddly> Hey, it's out inherent selfishness that has brought us this far and helped us to... oh wait. Huh.
L71[05:07:37] <Deddly> our*
L72[05:11:53] <Mat2ch> As far as I see it most good invetions come from people dedicating their lifes to the good thing and yet you still believe in money
L73[05:12:08] <Mat2ch> the intergalactic credit system works so much better, but you wouldn't understand
L74[05:12:10] <Mat2ch> ;)
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L76[05:19:18] <Deddly> Human life is too short to bother thinking about the future
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L78[05:25:59] <Fluburtur> looks like axial compressor blades have a slightly under-cambered airfoil
L79[05:26:33] <Mat2ch> Deddly: yeah, a few thound of your earth years is really short
L80[05:49:34] <Rolf> https://futurism.com/oxford-scientist-may-have-solved-mystery-dark-matter
L81[05:50:31] <Rolf> it'd be amazing if we could get and use negative mass
L82[05:50:56] <Rolf> picture this, a spaceship with 55% normal mass and 45% negative mass
L83[05:51:06] <Rolf> or even closer ratio
L84[05:51:31] <Rolf> it'd be essentally "massless" ship. with probes we could get very close to half/half.
L85[05:52:13] <Rolf> lol if we used negative mass as driver matter, ship would literally get heavier as it uses fuel
L86[05:56:55] <Rolf> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7huJMsbCnw short film
L87[05:57:06] <Deddly> Negative mass... seems improbable.
L88[05:58:39] <Deddly> If you had a capsule with >50% negative mass, it would literally fly off the earth and accelerate of the solar system without any propellant.
L89[05:58:51] <Triffid_Hunter> Rolf: hah if your fuel was negative mass, I assume you'd fire it out the front of the ship?
L90[05:59:01] <Rolf> Triffid_Hunter: good question! lol
L91[05:59:06] <Deddly> out of*
L92[05:59:17] <Rolf> Deddly: not really that'd mean it somehow suddenly got bunch of energy
L93[05:59:43] <Rolf> though it means if perfect 50% it'd be able to move by touch and slight wind
L94[05:59:47] <Deddly> That's why I say it sounds improbable to me
L95[05:59:58] <Deddly> Negative mass should repel mass
L96[06:00:14] <Rolf> indeed though normal mass would cancel it
L97[06:00:34] <Rolf> so object would weigh to whatever postive remander
L98[06:00:46] <Deddly> >50% should repel the earth = escape gravity as soon as you let it go
L99[06:00:48] <Rolf> you dont want negative balance it'd be harder
L100[06:00:57] <Rolf> yeah
L101[06:01:17] <Deddly> So, it would accelerate out of the solar system
L102[06:01:50] <Deddly> The stronger the gravity well, the faster it would accelerate
L103[06:02:11] <Rolf> yeah made me wonder how to even gather negative mass in first place
L104[06:02:17] <Deddly> So... seems improbable to me
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L106[06:02:23] <Rolf> ship itself would repel dark mass
L107[06:02:29] <Rolf> *negative mass
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L109[06:03:01] <darsie> Combine with positive mass to get 0 gravity and inertia.
L110[06:03:47] <Rolf> yeah though you dont want perfect 0, you want small postive
L111[06:04:06] <Deddly> How about a two stage craft that jettisons negative mass once it gets to the desired altitude? Leave exactly 50% ratio and you have a perpetually-hovering station
L112[06:04:24] <Deddly> Nah man. This sounds like science fiction
L113[06:04:27] <Rolf> what happens when boost to speed then eject negative mass
L114[06:04:58] <Deddly> Mind you, dark matter and dark energy also sound like science fiction
L115[06:05:14] <Rolf> yeah. right now its abstract objects
L116[06:06:47] <darsie> Yeah, 0 inertia is crazy. Emit a photon and accelerate to c or so.
L117[06:07:21] <Rolf> i doubt we can get perfect 50%. same thign why we cant get 100% pure gold block
L118[06:07:40] <Rolf> but even so yeah can get within milligrams probably
L119[06:07:49] <Rolf> which means flashlight is quite powerful drive
L120[06:08:11] <Mat2ch> Rolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhNrgUJArjU
L121[06:08:11] <kmath> YouTube - The Fringe Theory That Could Disprove Dark Matter | Answers With Joe
L122[06:08:20] <Mat2ch> My bet is on Qi
L123[06:09:12] <Rolf> hes quite chatty
L124[06:10:12] <Mat2ch> oh, McCulloch seems to be able to calculate G now...
L125[06:12:55] <Rolf> who?
L126[06:13:18] <Mat2ch> The guy behind Qi
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L128[06:16:58] <Rolf> oh
L129[06:17:11] <Rolf> im watching the scifi short. pretty interesting so far
L130[06:21:14] <Rolf> ohoy the ending.
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L136[08:10:06] <Fluburtur> k I need to buy a laser cutter
L137[08:10:13] <Althego> hehe
L138[08:10:16] <Fluburtur> im gonna give myself 1500€ of budget
L139[08:10:20] <Althego> better buy a lasma cutter
L140[08:10:22] <Althego> plasma
L141[08:10:28] <Fluburtur> would like a 40 to 80W with decent size
L142[08:10:31] <Althego> 1. looks better
L143[08:10:36] <Althego> 2. dismembers necromorphs better
L144[08:10:40] <Fluburtur> I want to cut wood, not remove it from existance
L145[08:11:13] <Althego> cnc plasma cutters that work under water and cut thick metals
L146[08:11:24] <Fluburtur> but I just want to cut thin plywood
L147[08:11:40] <Althego> the problem with wood and paper is that they generate smoke, and you have to ventilate that
L148[08:11:49] <Fluburtur> I can deal with that
L149[08:12:07] <Althego> you have your mask, let the room fill in with smoke :)
L150[08:12:26] <Fluburtur> I can just buy some 120mm pc fans and hook that up to some tubes
L151[08:16:58] <Fluburtur> I want a laser with a work surface bigger than 20x30cm too
L152[08:19:28] <Fluburtur> why are lasers so expensive
L153[08:19:48] <sandbox> make your own
L154[08:20:07] <Fluburtur> I want a proper one
L155[08:20:10] <Fluburtur> for my company
L156[08:22:49] <Fluburtur> a cnc would be cheaper but they make a mess
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L159[08:48:21] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I need to buy a CNC router
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L162[08:59:59] <Fluburtur> I really need a proper project manager
L163[09:01:03] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUIK6-tUJY
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L169[09:09:49] <darsie> Does this look like a sensible lander? Why is it exploding from LEO with a lunar rated heat shield? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot35.png The shield survived reentry this time, so I'm making progress :).
L170[09:11:13] <Ded> RSS?
L171[09:11:26] <darsie> Ahh, btw, the chute is attached to the shield and the pod to the chute. They are just swapped with the move tool, or the chute would sink into the pod.
L172[09:11:27] <darsie> yes
L173[09:11:35] <Ded> RO as well?
L174[09:11:37] <darsie> mhm
L175[09:11:50] <Ded> Nice. I'll get there one day
L176[09:11:55] <darsie> :)
L177[09:12:14] <darsie> Testing on Earth before going to the Moon and back.
L178[09:12:54] <Ded> But in real life, if you come in too steep, the shock heating is too much, if you come in too shallow, you cook for too long. You need the happy medium.
L179[09:13:03] <darsie> mhm
L180[09:13:10] <darsie> If I only knew which.
L181[09:13:22] <darsie> Hmm, maybe I can look at core and skin temp.
L182[09:13:55] <Ded> What overheats and explodes first?
L183[09:14:09] <darsie> It's the stuff behind the shield that exploded first, so I guess I was too shallow,
L184[09:14:11] <darsie> .
L185[09:14:27] <Ded> OR it's clipped into the shield
L186[09:14:40] <darsie> I doubt humans could take these g forces.
L187[09:15:04] <Ded> You sure it wasn't the g-forces that broke something?
L188[09:15:17] <darsie> Can't be sure of that.
L189[09:15:31] <darsie> I'll try going steeper.
L190[09:15:33] <Ded> F3
L191[09:15:38] <darsie> ah, ok.
L192[09:15:54] <darsie> Ahh, that.
L193[09:16:02] <darsie> heat
L194[09:16:32] <Ded> All right. My guess is something is clipped into the heat shield and transferring heat
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L197[09:27:17] <adsii1970> #help
L198[09:29:10] <Althego> i need somebody
L199[09:29:28] <Ded> Hey adsii1970 and Althego
L200[09:29:44] <Ded> Althego, Not just anybody?
L201[09:29:50] <Althego> yes
L202[09:30:02] <Althego> only for the joke though
L203[09:30:06] <adsii1970> hahaha...
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L206[09:50:28] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: \o/
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L210[10:05:27] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: that was unsatisfying
L211[10:06:19] <Mat2ch> what a painfully process just to get the holes right
L212[10:06:52] <Althego> winterM
L213[10:06:57] <Althego> ?
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L215[10:11:07] <Mat2ch> Althego: jep
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L217[10:41:47] <Althego> at least now there is a progress report on twitter
L218[10:41:58] <Althego> took the ma month to get started this year
L219[10:42:05] <Althego> (the game)
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L222[11:17:55] <Guest72677> Blessing Q Family
L223[11:18:35] <Ded> Hi Guest72677
L224[11:19:01] <Guest72677> Praying for All
L225[11:19:11] <Ded> Well thanks
L226[11:19:13] <Althego> the q beings dont have a family
L227[11:20:03] <Guest72677> WWG1WGA One Family in CHRIST JESUS
L228[11:20:11] *** Guest72677 was kicked by UmbralRaptop (Guest72677))
L229[11:21:46] <Ded> Is this a reply to the "* is doing" bot?
L230[11:21:55] <Althego> hehe, can be
L231[11:22:02] <Althego> do you have ded jokes? :)
L232[11:23:06] <OneNick335Days> i don't think so
L233[11:23:45] <Ded> I was going to ask Guest72677 if he know who is doing
L234[11:23:52] <Althego> hehe
L235[11:23:57] <Althego> would have been epic
L236[11:24:11] <Ded> Did you know that galaxies are not doing? But who IS doing? Do you know??
L237[11:24:23] <OneNick335Days> I can answer that question but it would ping all ops
L238[11:24:32] <Ded> Indeed
L239[11:25:05] <OneNick335Days> looks like a troll fro 2018-08
L240[11:25:24] <Althego> are there facebook trolls too?
L241[11:26:38] <UmbralRaptop> Probably
L242[11:26:47] <Althego> no way for me to know
L243[11:27:19] <Ded> Plot twist, Facebook itself is one big troll on humanity
L244[11:27:20] * UmbralRaptop finally got around to deleting my fb account on 12/31.
L245[11:27:34] <Althego> hehe
L246[11:27:35] <Ded> UmbralRaptop, disabled. It's never deleted
L247[11:27:42] <Ded> Never ever ever
L248[11:28:10] <UmbralRaptop> well, people need to pay for API access to get it now.
L249[11:28:10] <Ded> You will be taunted for the rest of your life with emails about how easy it is to reactivate your account
L250[11:28:24] <Althego> hehe
L251[11:28:41] * UmbralRaptop ignores that fb often put equifax or OPM levels of effort into keeping the API private
L252[11:29:52] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, universe is not doing because it follows the principle of least action. Some IRC trolls really need to read Landau and Lifshitz.
L253[11:30:08] * UmbralRaptop wonders if that name pings other ops.
L254[11:31:00] <Ded> No
L255[11:31:46] <Ded> Even shiitake mushrooms don't do that anymore
L256[11:31:51] <UmbralRaptop> Yay
L257[11:32:05] <Ded> Even if they spell it wrong
L258[11:32:20] <OneNick335Days> please no cursing Ded, especially if you disguise it
L259[11:32:39] <Althego> hehe
L260[11:32:44] <Ded> OneNick335Days, that's a legitimate name for a mushroom, not a disguised swear word
L261[11:33:10] <Althego> 香蕈 [しいたけ]: (n) shiitake mushroom (Lentinula edodes) :: 椎茸 [しいたけ]: (n) shiitake mushroom (Lentinula edodes)
L262[11:33:24] <Ded> But thanks for your vigilance. Cursing is indeed not allowed in here
L263[11:34:51] <Althego> what, we are not allowed to pilot amarr combat recons here?
L264[11:35:16] <Ded> Ah it's Zarthus
L265[11:35:28] <UmbralRaptop> Huh, shiitake is a direct transliteration of the hiragana.
L266[11:35:36] <Ded> Thought it was a new guy
L267[11:35:48] <OneNick335Days> a new guy? I've been here, statistically, at least 30 days
L268[11:36:07] <Althego> not this exact nick :
L269[11:36:10] <Althego> )
L270[11:36:18] <OneNick335Days> no but close enough
L271[11:36:21] <UmbralRaptop> Stochastic nick?
L272[11:36:31] <Althego> it isdecreasing each day
L273[11:36:42] <OneNick335Days> I started with OneNick365Days
L274[11:37:04] <Ded> Have you grouped all 365 possibilities?
L275[11:37:12] <OneNick335Days> no, but people have tried.
L276[11:37:22] <OneNick335Days> OneNick353Days OneNick352Days OneNick0353Days OneNick351Days are taken
L277[11:37:28] <Ded> What is it, some kind of challenge?
L278[11:37:38] <OneNick335Days> You could say it is, it's not far off.
L279[11:37:55] <OneNick335Days> It is a meager attempt at annoying people, and so far relatively unsuccessful at that.
L280[11:38:13] <Althego> you are not a beautiful or unique snowflake
L281[11:38:20] <Ded> I can be annoyed if it will make you happy. Grrr. I'm annoyed >:(
L282[11:38:47] <OneNick335Days> The thing is people got annoyed because the colour of my name didn't match when i nicked to SantaKline and Scarthus
L283[11:38:56] <OneNick335Days> so i decided to change my colour every day
L284[11:39:10] <OneNick335Days> (christmas and halloween respectively)
L285[11:59:07] <hoglahoo> but you arent even changing the color
L286[11:59:53] <Althego> hehe
L287[11:59:56] <Althego> the client does
L288[12:00:07] <Althego> at least some clients. not this one though
L289[12:00:33] <hoglahoo> those clients are much more annoying than nick changes
L290[12:00:50] <hoglahoo> perhaps that explains the failure to annoy
L291[12:01:17] <OneNick335Days> mine just colours all regulars white / voices green / ops blue / webchatters purple / tor users gray
L292[12:01:43] <OneNick335Days> hey hoglahoo, what should I eat for dinner?
L293[12:03:11] <hoglahoo> something simple
L294[12:04:06] <OneNick335Days> hm. sausages, deep frying, normal bread, maybe some satay sticks?
L295[12:04:10] <Althego> you can eat something blue and new, but dont eat something old or borrowed
L296[12:05:07] <hoglahoo> where the veggie at
L297[12:05:17] <OneNick335Days> i have a banana
L298[12:05:31] <hoglahoo> oh - I thought you were just happy to see me
L299[12:05:40] <OneNick335Days> i always am
L300[12:05:48] <hoglahoo> shwing
L301[12:06:04] <OneNick335Days> shit im looking at burgers
L302[12:06:08] <OneNick335Days> whats your favourite burger hoglahoo
L303[12:06:22] <OneNick335Days> this one is called
L304[12:06:23] <OneNick335Days> Supreme Burger - Burger with cheddar, lettuce, tomato and Johnny's sauce
L305[12:06:45] <hoglahoo> it. sausage & beef mix with egg, onion, bread crumb
L306[12:07:09] <hoglahoo> add cooked bacon, pepper cheese, onion, tomato, lettuce not required
L307[12:07:24] <Ded> OneNick335Days, language...?
L308[12:07:25] <hoglahoo> lowrys
L309[12:07:44] <OneNick335Days> Ded: you got me
L310[12:08:12] <Ded> You are fined one number from your nick
L311[12:08:22] <OneNick335Days> give me 5 hours to process that change
L312[12:08:31] <Ded> You are hereby demoted to OneNick334Days
L313[12:08:54] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/426008239071821826/540231756893126831/20190130184045_1.jpg
L314[12:08:56] <hoglahoo> is this a puritan chat channel
L315[12:08:57] <Althego> only tomorrow
L316[12:10:18] <Ded> This channel is doing
L317[12:10:24] <Ded> Don't you forget it
L318[12:10:39] <Althego> bob, do something!
L319[12:11:22] <hoglahoo> this channel is not doing, allah is doing
L320[12:11:33] <OneNick335Days> BAZINGA
L321[12:11:44] <Ded> Nooooooo don't say the word
L322[12:11:56] <Althego> this is not the word you have to be afraid of
L323[12:11:56] <OneNick335Days> which word, doing?
L324[12:11:58] <hoglahoo> why not
L325[12:12:03] * hoglahoo looks around for betelgeuse
L326[12:12:27] <Althego> there are words that summon a great evil, like one starting with mu and ending with um
L327[12:12:32] <Ded> Because of spambots, all the ops get pinged thanks to that specific combination of words, hoglahoo
L328[12:12:42] <hoglahoo> oh glorious
L329[12:13:23] * hoglahoo ululates
L330[12:14:01] <Ded> Althego, museum works, too
L331[12:14:07] <Althego> nooooo
L332[12:14:21] <Althego> and aluminium
L333[12:18:32] <Rokker> ...
L334[12:18:37] <Althego> see?
L335[12:18:38] <Rokker> REEEEEEEE
L336[12:18:46] <Ded> \o/
L337[12:19:10] <Rokker> I had my phone set to vibrate
L338[12:19:14] <Rokker> missed the notifications
L339[12:19:41] <hoglahoo> you what ... lol
L340[12:19:52] <Ded> Good to see you Rokker
L341[12:20:14] <Rokker> you too
L342[12:20:49] <Rokker> have I posted the nasa pics I found in here yet
L343[12:20:58] <Althego> no
L344[12:22:44] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/G0k8CHzJ/363173main_EC66-1461_full.jpg
L345[12:22:54] <Althego> ah this
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L347[12:23:10] <Althego> this was here
L348[12:23:22] <hoglahoo> yeah, you posted it here yesterday
L349[12:23:23] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pFxGyWHY/EC88-0042-01.jpg
L350[12:23:37] <Rokker> how about that one
L351[12:23:39] <Althego> i dont remember this
L352[12:23:41] <hoglahoo> I don’t remmeber that one
L353[12:23:46] <Ded> Oooh
L354[12:24:03] <Ded> Noice
L355[12:24:15] <hoglahoo> what’s the cute little retarded one at the lower left called
L356[12:24:32] <hoglahoo> with the gimpy wing
L357[12:24:37] <Althego> hehe
L358[12:24:38] <Rokker> that one is the whole reason I found all these cause someone decided to annoy me by posting a a screenshot of a super cropped version of that pic on the KSP subreddit
L359[12:24:49] <Rokker> so I spent like 3 hours looking for the actual picture
L360[12:24:50] <hoglahoo> heh
L361[12:24:52] <Althego> https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/history/pastprojects/AD1/index.html
L362[12:25:24] <Rokker> hoglahoo: what althego said, but don't mix it up with the other AD-1, the post WW2 torpedo bomber/attack plane
L363[12:25:33] <Rokker> it was designed by Burt Rutan.
L364[12:25:39] <Althego> i didnt know that
L365[12:25:50] <hoglahoo> interesting
L366[12:25:53] <Rokker> Althego: probably on of his earliest crazy designs
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L368[12:26:16] <Rokker> Althego: guess what I found out about one of the museum planes the other day
L369[12:27:42] <Rokker> Althego: the F-100 here was Dick Rutan's plane
L370[12:28:02] <Rokker> not the one that got shot down obviously, the other one
L371[12:30:12] <Rokker> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZLiIW70E/DfLX4FyVAAApOkz.jpg
L372[12:30:41] <OneNick335Days> hoglahoo : this is all your fault
L373[12:30:51] <OneNick335Days> hoglahoo: I was so hungry that I forgot to order food
L374[12:31:05] <hoglahoo> in the meantime, I ate a chicken fried steak
L375[12:31:08] <Rokker> they got a pegasus in this one https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/31xt22rz/EC90-280-1.jpg
L376[12:31:19] <Rokker> next to Balls 8
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L378[12:37:05] <Rokker> this one is unfortunately a mockup x-15 but still cool https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5sSTgUWp/EC93-41012-3+%281%29.jpg
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L380[12:40:13] <Rokker> long wingybois https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/89qCpUtp/370311main_ED08-0292-1_full.jpg
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L385[13:07:36] <Althego> still no cover https://twitter.com/NASAInSight/status/1090407519929790464
L386[13:08:48] <Althego> scott
L387[13:09:14] <Althego> heh 2 hours...
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L446[21:48:45] <jebsguac> hola
L447[21:54:09] <UmbralRaptor> greetings, assuming you are not a bot.
L448[21:55:28] <jebsguac> not a bot
L449[21:55:50] <jebsguac> I'm just picking up the game again today
L450[21:56:16] <jebsguac> I'm starting with a science mode game and trying to figure out optimal ways to do thing
L451[21:56:35] <UmbralRaptor> ah
L452[21:56:54] <UmbralRaptor> Stock ΔV is nice.
L453[21:57:18] <jebsguac> I'm thinking of doing a sub orbital
L454[21:57:21] <jebsguac> then orbit
L455[21:57:30] <jebsguac> then mun flyby
L456[21:59:54] <jebsguac> I guess there is no money to worry about so failing isn't an issue
L457[22:22:48] <jebsguac> finding good info for 1.6 is annoying
L458[22:26:33] <UmbralRaptor> The big part changes were in Making History. Stock should be like 1.4.x and 1.5,x.
L459[22:29:48] <jebsguac> okay
L460[22:29:56] <jebsguac> maybe i am following some old 1.0 stuff
L461[22:32:09] <UmbralRaptor> Maybe. Something with assumptions about the atmosphere or science?
L462[22:33:07] <jebsguac> I might be kinda dumb
L463[22:33:20] <jebsguac> just figuring out a good vehicle to get to orbit
L464[22:37:28] <UmbralRaptor> Could be any of multiple issues. (ascent profile, stability, ΔV…)
L465[22:41:42] <jebsguac> I almost got there :)
L466[22:42:05] <jebsguac> just not enough dV to burn at the Ap to get the Pe to 70k
L467[22:56:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i know that problem
L468[22:57:06] <Eddi|zuHause> try installing KER
L469[22:57:41] <Eddi|zuHause> it will try to estimate your dV in the VAB
L470[22:58:20] <Eddi|zuHause> (exact dV needed for orbit depends on your ascent profile)
L471[22:58:33] <Eddi|zuHause> also, check the dV map in the topic
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L474[23:50:37] <jebsguac> i can get into orbit pretty easily now with a really basic rocket
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