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L6[01:05:44] <darsie> Yes, I made my first
rendezvous and EVA at Earth :). Didn't have enough fuel for safe
reentry, so had to aerobrake a few orbits first.
L7[01:06:10] <darsie> LH2 was boiling off
meanwhile ...
L8[01:09:23] <Althego> to keep your cool
:)
L10[01:15:00] <darsie> KER calculates dv
wrongly.
L11[01:15:25] <darsie> Had like 1300 m/s
when it really was only 569.
L12[01:17:59] <Althego> most of the time it
is correct
L13[01:18:17] <Althego> can be because of a
mod
L14[01:23:29] <darsie> Maybe it was
confused cause I had other engines on the same stage. I wouldn't
know how to calculate that if they burn simultaneously.
L16[01:24:15] <darsie> Had 2 1 kN thrusters
for fine adjustments and ullage for the hydrolox engine.
L17[01:25:03] <Althego> so this becomes the
combined isp
L18[01:25:11] <Althego> and then use the
usualt delta v formula
L19[01:26:07] <darsie> Even when they don't
burn the same length?
L20[01:26:25] <Althego> no, obviously it is
when they burn at the same time
L21[01:26:30] <darsie> ok
L22[01:26:38] <Althego> after that you have
to use the remaining engines
L23[01:26:41] <Althego> in the
formula
L24[01:26:42] <darsie> mhm
L25[01:27:37] <Althego> starting with the
remaining mass
L26[01:27:48] <darsie> yep
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L38[02:05:23] <darsie> NSTAR Ion Thruster,
0.0 kN :)
L39[02:06:35] <darsie> Ahh, 0.0006 l/s Xe.
That should give the trust.
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L41[02:09:18] <darsie> kg/s*m/s, I
guess.
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L44[02:57:40] <Mat2ch> Woah
L45[02:57:42] <Mat2ch> WOAH
L46[02:57:47] <Mat2ch> Crew Dragon in
February!
L47[03:01:57] <darsie> How do I configure
the chutes?
L48[03:02:07] <darsie> in RO
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L52[03:29:31] <Mat2ch> Althego: the space
bar seems to be fixed ;)
L53[03:29:43] <Althego> yes i noticed
L54[03:30:00] <Althego> space bar, the
cheapest foode ever :)
L55[03:30:03] <Althego> -e
L56[03:38:36] *
Mat2ch noms
L57[03:38:51] <Mat2ch> I wonder if
"nom" will some day be in the dictionary.
L58[03:39:59] <Althego> it should be
L59[03:47:31] <Mat2ch> I nom, you nom, she
noms, he noms, it noms, we nom, they nom
L60[03:47:33] <Mat2ch> :D
L61[03:50:40] <Althego> easy with english,
practically no inflection
L62[03:59:24] <darsie> Are there vacuum
fluctuations or hot girls in space bars?
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L66[05:02:22] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Althego> space bar, the cheapest foode ever :) <-- is
that more like a mars bar or a milky way bar?
L67[05:02:33] <Eddi|zuHause> dang, missed
him
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L83[07:16:20] <Fluburtur> apparently the
engine of that plane (the nieuport 23) was rotary so should I make
the rc version rotary as well
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L92[08:06:50] <darsie> I installed 1.3.1
with steam and replaced it with 1.6.1. Could steam get confused and
mess it up?
L93[08:08:35] <darsie> I just want my saves
safe.
L94[08:08:45] <APlayer> Your saves can be
easily exported
L95[08:09:01] <darsie> yeah, but it'll be
used and change.
L96[08:09:11] <APlayer> So back them up
:-)
L97[08:09:35] <darsie> Hmm, I could move it
away from the standard directory so steam doesn't see it.
L98[08:09:43] <APlayer> Life lesson #1:
Always back things up, because in due time, you will regret not
having done it :P
L99[08:09:49] <darsie> yeah
L100[08:09:51] <darsie> :)
L101[08:11:46] <Fluburtur> I kinda want to
make this prop
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L105[08:19:29] <Azander> I keep a
"stock" copy in my steam dir, then copy it out to a
folder KSP_X.Y.Z for actual gaming
L106[08:19:57] <Azander> only way to keep
older versions alive and well when updates come out :)
L107[08:30:41] <packbart> I keep GameData
and saves in a git repository
L108[08:31:17] <packbart> (for easier
syncing between computers)
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L131[11:41:55] <Fluburtur> Althego im
watching a conference of a Romanian space dweller, Dorin
Prunariu
L132[11:42:08] <Fluburtur> quite
interesting, dude got a very good french
L133[11:42:13] <Althego> who is that
L135[11:43:25] <Althego> another front
where romanians beat us. they had two cosmonauts, while we had
one
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L137[11:48:19] <Fluburtur> heh
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L142[12:30:32] <Althego> it is
L143[12:31:14] <Althego> the problem with
this, that what is harmful is judged by them. so it will be
necessarily wrong
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L145[12:33:45] <Eddi|zuHause> the problem
with this is that it's going to be an "algorithm", that
will only look for correlations, not causality, so it'll always end
up being wrong
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L149[12:34:45] <Althego> it is like if you
make a video about terrorists, condemning them, the video is
demonetized because it is related to terrorism
L150[12:35:06] <Eddi|zuHause> yes,
something like that
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L153[12:50:20] <Fluburtur> I really should
design a 3d printed jet engine
L154[12:50:33] <Fluburtur> I guess a low
bypass one could have enough cooling
L155[12:50:50] <Althego> for 5
seconds
L156[12:50:56] <Fluburtur> yeah
L157[12:51:16] <Althego> but you could
maaybe make a 3d printed stirling engine
L158[12:51:50] <Fluburtur> well, I guess
the combustion chamber and everything after that would need to be
made out of something heat resistant
L159[12:52:09] <Fluburtur> but maybe it
could work using film cooling, injectig fresh air around the
chamber
L160[12:52:16] <Fluburtur> but the
radiated heat would still melt it
L161[12:52:33] <Fluburtur> PLA softens at
like 60°c
L162[12:52:40] <Fluburtur> not really
turbofan material
L163[12:52:41] <Althego> have to go big.
3d print from metal
L164[12:52:44] <Fluburtur> exept for the
cold parts
L165[12:53:01] <Althego> o you can 3d
print molds and cast it
L166[12:53:03] <Fluburtur> well I will
have to start saving up for one of those 100k € printers then
L167[12:53:20] <Fluburtur> well I would
rather have laser cut metal parts and glue them together
L168[12:53:33] <Fluburtur> or refractory
cement for the chamber but it would be heavy
L169[12:58:54] <Draconiator> 3D printers
are coming down in price, I would wait.
L170[12:59:00] <Draconiator> I want one
but....
L171[12:59:08] <Fluburtur> metal
ones?
L172[12:59:16] <Draconiator> Oh metal
ones.
L173[12:59:21] <Draconiator> Lol
nevermind
L174[12:59:34] <Fluburtur> good ol
extrusion plastic printers are already pretty cheap if you are
willing to mod them a bit to be good
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L177[13:28:33] <Fluburtur> my wintergatan
tshirt shipped
L178[13:29:18] <Fluburtur> now Martin can
buy a bag of screws with the money I threw to him
L179[13:29:22] <Fluburtur> or maybe
another tap to break
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L183[13:52:26] <Draconiator>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP4_upxrV0g - One of
my hobbies...found the drive at a thrift store for 5 bucks. I NEVER
see an old computer or laptop or whatever there though....wish I
did I would snap it up.
L184[13:53:59] <Althego> earphones
warning
L185[13:54:26] <Draconiator> What is that
crap before it acthually loads? and oooh I forgot about that thanks
Althe
L186[13:54:58] <Althego> bell characters
probably
L187[13:55:04] <Althego> in random memory
junk
L188[13:55:23] <Althego> which shows
either data corruption or hardware issue
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L192[14:14:50] <kmath> YouTube - Jet Bike
- Modelpark Suché 2018
L193[14:15:23] <Fluburtur> why not drive a
turboshaft with that
L194[14:15:23] <Althego> lol the cola
bottles as fuel tank
L195[14:15:28] <Fluburtur> much more
efficient
L196[14:15:39] <Fluburtur> but I approve
of that fuel tank
L197[14:16:10] <Althego> because for that
you need to have a coupling turbine and a lot of reduction
gear
L198[14:16:23] <Fluburtur> yeah but you
can buy those
L199[14:16:32] <Fluburtur> they are mode
to just bolt on the end of the turbine
L200[14:23:25] <Althego> temporary deal to
end government shutdown. maybe spacex can launch in febryrary with
the crew dragon
L201[14:24:34] <Althego> they better hurry
up. the rocket has already been there for a while
L202[14:27:31] <bEagle> you know one of my
pet peeves... when you realize your space plane needs more Ox but
the only replaceable Lf tank is somewhere beneath carefully
adjusted wings
L203[14:27:58] <Fluburtur> if only there
was Ox only tanks
L204[14:28:08] <Fluburtur> I wanted that
for quite a while actually
L205[14:28:21] <Althego> which would be
easy to do by using the existing tanks
L206[14:28:26] <Althego> there is a mod
for this
L207[14:28:29] <Fluburtur> but the devs
spend more time making new skins than actually updating the
game
L208[14:28:46] <Althego> and they didnt
even do anything this year
L209[14:29:02] <Althego> at least they
never updated us on the progress like before
L210[14:29:19] <bEagle> yeah, changing
tank type shouldn't really be that much of a hassle since I've seen
it done in mods and reskins are basically that anyway
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L212[14:29:44] <Fluburtur> making new
skins for parts and DLC crap is more important
L213[14:29:55] <bEagle> are the new
engines purely visual, though? i always thought KSP takes the
actual model and calculates some sort of an aero model of it
L214[14:30:06] <Fluburtur> remember the
big update back in the days, when we waited for them and
stuff
L215[14:30:11] <Fluburtur> that was
nice
L216[14:30:12] <bEagle> aye
L217[14:30:24] <Althego> what new
engines?
L218[14:30:29] <bEagle> the reskins
L219[14:30:41] <Althego> they have the
same properties
L220[14:30:42] <bEagle> some of them have
shrouds and some are just truss thingies
L221[14:30:59] <bEagle> the pedant in me
would sey they should have different flight characteristics
L222[14:31:00] <Althego> as engines. as
parts they may have updated drag, but i didnt check them
L223[14:31:23] <bEagle> yeah that's what i
was trying to ask :) sorry wasn't clear on that
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L225[14:33:15] <bEagle> maybe i'll just
try to build a new plane completely... easier than moving all the
vents and wings around
L226[14:34:16] <Althego> anyway base ksp
doesnt calculate real drag or lift, they come from some properties
given in the parts
L227[14:34:46] <Althego> but far tries to
do that
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L231[14:37:57] <kmath> YouTube - Real Mars
Rover Engineer Builds A Mars Rover In Kerbal Space Program • Pro
Play
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L235[14:44:43] <Althego> looks a bit like
a blackbird
L236[14:44:52] <Althego> lol that nose
with the geat
L237[14:45:07] <Althego> i would usually
hide the landing gear inside the body
L238[14:45:23] <Althego> probably has
center of mass movement issues
L239[14:45:29] <Althego> just as the
blackbird
L242[14:46:12] <bEagle> hence the clipped
engines
L243[14:47:13] <bEagle> i tried to adjust
the fuel levels to reflect the amount of clipping but it seems that
i have lost that version of the plane. surprisingly CoM doesn't
move much at all. it actually shifts a little front to help with
re-entry balance
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L248[15:19:34] <Eddi|zuHause> man, growing
new planets is a pain with machine empires... you have no real
growth until you get more population on it, and you have to handle
migration manually
L249[15:19:51] <Fluburtur>
stellaris?
L250[15:21:51] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L251[15:23:09] <Eddi|zuHause> you have 1
replicator job on the colony building, second you can build with a
facility at pop 5, a third with the upgraded colony building at pop
10
L252[15:23:46] <Eddi|zuHause> (and then
another one at pop 40 and 80, i believe)
L253[15:24:16] <Eddi|zuHause> biological
growth is much faster
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L292[23:07:44] <Eddi|zuHause> man the
simpsons have changed :p
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L296[23:45:48] <Rolf> Eddi|zuHause:
related to my link?