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L37[06:43:19] <kmath> YouTube - Blast of
petard in the barrel
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L45[08:35:11] <Mat2ch> Better than the guy
who put a polish thingy in his trunk and blew off the back of his
car
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L47[08:51:30] <Fluburtur> I climbed to 650m
with the glider
L48[08:51:38] <Fluburtur> but weather was
crap so no thermals
L49[08:51:45] <Fluburtur> and it started
raining after I landed
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L52[08:58:21] <Fluburtur> what the power of
tail wind can do
L53[09:04:10] <Mat2ch> 103 km/h?
L54[09:04:11] <Mat2ch> Woah
L55[09:04:44] <Fluburtur> the glider was on
full beans too
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L57[09:09:47] <Fluburtur> k so it took 6
nad a half minutes to descend 500 meters, what kind of L/D is
that
L58[09:13:31] <Fluburtur> so that is
average sink of 1.28 meter per second if I didnt screw up the
math
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L71[10:12:25] <Althego> cancellation?
L72[10:12:35] <APlayer> Is there a joke, or
is it just interesting?
L73[10:12:39] <APlayer> The color does
cancel
L74[10:12:40] <Althego> cancels what?
L75[10:12:50] <APlayer> Blue and orange mix
to grey
L76[10:13:16] <APlayer> "Cancel".
But you know what it means
L78[10:15:34] <Althego> hehe
L79[10:16:36] <Althego> hife the pain
arnold turned out to be hungarian
L80[10:16:46] <Althego> a meme we gave to
the world
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L83[10:46:29] <Althego> to be honest i
would be more afraid of the rotors han being stuck on the
mountain
L84[10:47:10] <Althego> although you will
never find me skiing so it is unlikely anyway
L85[10:49:26] <APlayer> Looks unrealistic
to me. Not a bit of snow in the air
L86[10:49:46] <Fluburtur> snow could be
frozen
L87[10:49:48] <Althego> yes i was expecting
snow blown around
L88[10:50:13] <Fluburtur> it is quite
common to see snow with an icy top layer
L89[10:50:45] <APlayer> This year while
skiing, I was on a lift (5 m above ground? 10 m?) and on a piste
with wet snow and patches of ice. Helicopter landed pretty close to
the lift to pick up a fallen person, perhaps 20 - 30 m away from
where the lift was passing, and the cabin I sat in went right
through a cloud of snow dust
L90[10:51:06] <APlayer> There is
unbelievably much snow in the air, no matter its quality
L92[10:55:22] <APlayer> o/
L94[10:55:28] <Althego> hehe
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L96[11:05:17] <Althego> according to google
nomal valley is in northern pakistan
L97[11:08:43] *
APlayer read "normal valley" and assumed a mountain range
perpendicular to the surface
L98[11:08:58] <Althego> hehe
L99[11:09:04] <Althego> arent all?
L100[11:09:10] <Althego> that is why they
are mountains
L101[11:09:34] <APlayer> Mostly not
perpendicular, though
L102[11:10:22] <Althego> or mostly
harmless
L104[11:17:11] <kmath> YouTube - KERBOL 0
| 100% Stock Low Solar Artificial Gravity Station | KSP 1.6
L105[11:17:28] <Althego> has a transporter
erector
L106[11:25:16] <Althego> didnt expect
counter rotation
L107[11:26:35] <Althego> lol went down 601
km from the sun surface
L108[11:30:45] <Althego> anyway that
station is too epic for this reality, might cause overflow
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L122[13:19:39] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Prepare to make the jump to hyperearth!
L123[13:19:56] <Althego> not yet
L124[13:20:18] <Althego> japanese launch
in a few hours
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L127[13:33:53] <JVFoxy> 'hyperearth'... a
world whose population that consumes so much caffeine and
sugar?
L128[13:34:11] <Althego> no, iut is a 4
dimensional spheroid
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L130[13:34:46] <JVFoxy> careful.. you
might play into those hollow earth people
L131[13:35:06] <Althego> there are only a
few of those
L132[13:35:28] <Althego> but today i
watched a video about the sun simulator that is a fake sun :)
L133[13:36:27] <JVFoxy> so... only a few
hollow earthers, but tons of flat ones..? Kinda wonder how that
happened
L134[13:37:01] <Scolar_Visari> What we
should really be asking is why either exists.
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L136[13:37:53] <Althego> failure of the
education system and lack of logical thinking in the human
mind
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L141[13:42:28] <UmbralRaptop> Althego:
simulate the sun with an advanced device that may be sitting on
your desk right now!
L142[13:44:59] <APlayer> Ahem,
politics
L143[13:51:08] <Althego> what, did china
really announce plans for a moon bas?
L144[13:51:10] <Althego> e
L145[13:51:20] <Althego> hah moon bass,
sound of silence
L146[13:51:47] <APlayer>
"Wroom", the meteorite said. "Wroom", the moon
agreed.
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L148[13:56:51] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: I
would not take any plans for a Lunar base very seriously at this
moment in time.
L149[13:57:32] <APlayer> Since the moment
you referred to has already passed, I suppose Althego is good to go
now
L150[13:57:47] <Althego> to quote one of
my technicians (at that time) about the moving of the whole factory
unit: i will believe it when we are already there.
L151[13:58:01] <Althego> hehe
L152[13:58:03] <Althego> when is now
L153[13:58:07] <Althego> spaceballs
L154[13:59:09] <Scolar_Visari> The CNSA in
particular doesn't have the LVs needed for such a plan, and there's
a lot of R&D needed for mission specific hardware on top of
that.
L155[13:59:35] <Althego> prepare to fast
forward. fast forward
L156[13:59:42] <Tank2333> We need to
perfect human cloning first before a moon base makes sense
L157[13:59:48] <Tank2333> Spoiler
alert
L158[13:59:58] <darsie> Why?
L159[14:00:01] <Althego> with that we
could create the endless war that torments the galaxy
L160[14:00:09] <darsie> ahh
L161[14:00:11] <darsie> nm :)
L162[14:00:15] <Althego> (total
annihilation)
L163[14:00:43] <Tank2333> :)
L164[14:00:49] <JVFoxy> I still have that
game
L165[14:00:52] <Tank2333> Arm and
core
L166[14:01:20] <JVFoxy> in fact.. I booted
up the old pc yesterday first time in long while. Other than small
bios blip.. seems to be working rather good
L167[14:01:25] <Tank2333> Me too
L168[14:01:45] <Althego> i lost the better
backup video card, because it was complaining about power
L169[14:02:06] <Althego> but the old pc
still worked in the middle of december
L170[14:02:22] <JVFoxy> as for chinese
moon base, given the rift between them and much of the western
world when it comes to sharing knowledge or tech development. I've
a feeling they a long long ways to go
L171[14:02:42] <Althego> not really,
because nobody knows how to do it
L172[14:02:56] <Althego> but pooling small
bits of knowledhe does help
L173[14:03:11] <Althego> not to mention
shared funding, like the iss
L174[14:03:33] <JVFoxy> there's been talk
about a moon base for decades. Trouble is, we keep finding out new
complications about such a project as we go along developing
it
L175[14:03:37] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy: I
don't think it's a problem of technology sharing because that would
defeat much of the purpose of an indigenous Lunar effort. It's a
problem of lacking sufficient infrastructure (heavy LVs) and
probably political will (proposed manned Lunar missions have been
downplayed by the PRC more often than not)
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L178[14:04:36] <darsie> Will there be KSP
version 2?
L179[14:04:47] <Althego> not soon
L180[14:04:52] <JVFoxy> don't forget, a
lot of people would rather see robotic stuff than to send a crewed
mission. 'too risky, not worth it, ect' in their eyes
L181[14:04:52] <darsie> k
L182[14:05:05] <Althego> they went into
deep sleep after 1.6
L183[14:05:11] <Althego> so not a word on
1.7
L184[14:05:23] <Althego> but i guess even
for 1.7 they are going to continue the model upgrades
L185[14:05:37] <Althego> too risky
L186[14:05:45] <Althego> somehow people
got into america
L187[14:05:59] <Althego> or to tiny
islands in the middle of oceans
L188[14:06:31] <JVFoxy> ya well..
everyone's got their own ideals.. personally, I'd love to see us go
back, even if its just orbital.
L189[14:07:32] <JVFoxy> looking back at
the moon race.. it was risky, lack of time to learn more about it
before going. And yet, if there wasn't pressure, who is to say we'd
have even gone?
L190[14:08:13] <shaun> hi. I am having
hassles trying to install KSP on my linux machine. Can anyone
please help?
L191[14:08:30] <Althego> neil degrasse
tyson was joking about how to get to mars: convince people high up
that the chinese want to build a base there
L192[14:08:39] <JVFoxy> they didn't even
know about the mascons till after two missions sent out
sub-satellites.
L193[14:08:53] <Althego> mascon?
L194[14:09:06] <JVFoxy> mass
concentrations
L195[14:10:09] <JVFoxy> gravity on the
moon isn't as consistent all around. Certain areas have more or
less gravity due to different masses or concentrations. Only a few
select orbital planes were found to be stable.
L196[14:10:19] <Scolar_Visari> JVFoxy:
There were a few mission specific instruments sent, including a
probe that was later the subject of its own Apollo mission.
L197[14:10:28] <APlayer> shaun: I don't
think anyone reading the chat at the moment is qualified to help,
but if you describe the issue, people meanwhile may notice your
question
L198[14:11:54] <JVFoxy> scolar_visari
which probe was that?
L199[14:12:25] <Althego> shaun: it has
been a while since i instaleld ksp on linux, but usually it was
nothing more than just extracting it
L200[14:12:36] <Althego> shaun: what is
the actual issue
L201[14:12:43] <Fluburtur> the ip man
movies are nice but for some reasont hey dont talk about him
smoking opium all the time
L202[14:12:43] <shaun> ok. I have unpacked
the zip file to the ksp directory, but when I try to run the script
called dlc-mhe-[lang] it states that it cannot find the
command
L203[14:14:00] <APlayer> I am not sure who
of the tech savvy people here use Linux, else I'd highlight some
for you
L204[14:14:04] <shaun> this is the
instructions in the readme.txt
L205[14:14:36] <Althego> but is the script
actually there? does autocomplete it?
L206[14:14:41] <JVFoxy> shaun do you have
the 'making history' addon?
L207[14:14:42] <Althego> by tab?
L208[14:14:56] <shaun> no I do not
L209[14:15:05] <Althego> then why would
you want to run a dlc script?
L210[14:15:14] <Althego> currently the
making history expansion is the only dlc
L211[14:15:41] <shaun> hmmm so off to
download the making history?
L212[14:16:08] <Althego> also [lang] is
probably one of the languages
L213[14:16:08] <JVFoxy> I'm going to guess
that [lang] is refering to which language you have installed
L214[14:16:20] <JVFoxy> for english one
you might want to try dlc-mhe-en instead?
L215[14:17:03] <JVFoxy> you don't need the
making history.. unless you already bought it
L216[14:17:10] <JVFoxy> then its just
optional
L217[14:17:14] <Althego> actually i dont
use it much
L218[14:17:24] <Althego> i even avoid the
parts
L220[14:18:35] <shaun> there is no english
lang. pack unless I want to change back to eng
L221[14:19:05] <Scolar_Visari> JVfoxy:
Apollo 12's recovery of part of the Surveyor 3 lander, which it
also landed next to.
L222[14:19:06] <JVFoxy> shaun using
non-english then?
L224[14:19:43] <shaun> no, the english
version
L225[14:19:45] <JVFoxy> scolar_visari ah
ya 12/Surveyor 3 meet up.. though I consider that more lander than
probe. But thats just me.
L226[14:20:35] <Scolar_Visari> Lander =
probe.
L227[14:20:49] <shaun> Althego - I cannot
see the required command in the directory at all....
L228[14:21:04] <Scolar_Visari>
"Probe" can refer to any unmanned spacecraft.
L229[14:21:06] <JVFoxy> scolar_visari well
to me its a specific type of probe.. I was thinking some kinda
orbital thing.
L230[14:22:18] <Althego> if there is no
script then dont run it :)
L231[14:22:28] <shaun> I mean script,
sorry
L232[14:23:05] <JVFoxy> hmm... now got me
wanting to see this readme file.. see what exactly it says
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L234[14:23:19] <Althego> yes but i dont
want to download the whole thing just for a readme
L235[14:23:35] <Scolar_Visari> Heck, much
of the point of missions to the Moon made prior to Apollo was to
better prepare for Apollo.
L236[14:23:37] <Althego> and i need to
sleep too
L237[14:23:40] <shaun> Linux
Installer:
L238[14:23:40] <shaun> * Uncompress the
file provided
L239[14:23:40] <shaun> * Place the
contents of the file in your KSP installation directory
L240[14:23:40] <shaun> * Run the script
called dlc-mhe-[lang].command
L241[14:24:21] <JVFoxy> ..... did squad
change their website?
L242[14:24:29] <Althego> oh lol seems
so
L244[14:24:45] <kmath> YouTube - Ace
Combat 7 | MiG-21 bis Aircraft Introduction Trailer | PS4
L245[14:24:45] <JVFoxy> oh.. so no longer
using just the /en part?
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L247[14:25:35] <Althego> now that i logged
in, i can download 1.6.1 too
L248[14:26:22] <JVFoxy> shaun I'm going to
guess you don't have the making history dlc... dlc-mhe-[lang] means
DownLoadableContent - Making History Enhancement - the language
pack you have for the game
L249[14:26:27] <Althego> very modern
design with the page. so hardly any content, huge white
spaces
L250[14:26:48] <shaun> ok so thats in the
store I guess?
L251[14:26:59] <Althego> yes the linux
version does not contain that script
L252[14:27:01] <Althego> must be the
dlc
L253[14:27:17] <Scolar_Visari> Ace Combat
intensifies.
L254[14:27:19] <Althego> oh btw finally
notepad handles linux newlines :)
L255[14:27:25] <JVFoxy> shaun you don't
need the DLC in order to run the game.
L256[14:27:25] <shaun> Ok I will give it a
whirl
L257[14:27:43] <JVFoxy> shaun if you don't
have it already, probably need to buy it as well. let me check
something
L258[14:27:56] <shaun> The problem is I
cannot get to it to install/run
L259[14:28:13] <shaun> KSP I mean
L260[14:28:22] <Althego> yes the making
history has that
L261[14:28:36] <Althego> contains a script
like dlc-mhe-en-us.sh
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L263[14:29:20] <Althego> since it is a zip
i am not sure executable flag is kept
L264[14:29:32] <Althego> so you might need
to chmod it
L265[14:30:00] <JVFoxy> I do'nt know
linux, isn't there a way to just run the game without trying to
envoke the DLC side?
L266[14:30:03] <shaun> its
extracting
L267[14:30:13] <Althego> of coures there
is
L268[14:30:18] <Althego> you dont need the
dlc for the game
L269[14:30:38] <Althego> i think they
messed up the readmes
L270[14:30:40] <UmbralRaptop> The shell
script looks to be set to be executable
L271[14:30:45] <Althego> because the same
content is there for the dlc readme
L272[14:30:55] <UmbralRaptop> And yeah,
DLC is optional
L273[14:31:03] <Althego> normally you
extract the zip and that is it
L275[14:31:11] <shaun> nope that did not
work either
L276[14:31:33] <Althego> the linux version
is ready to go, by running the ksp.whatever
L277[14:31:46] <JVFoxy> latest version
linux ksp only 64 bit right?
L278[14:31:56] <shaun> IO found that link
before coming on here, that is of you run it in steam I think which
I do not have
L279[14:32:09] <JVFoxy> ok so not on
steam
L280[14:32:15] <shaun> yes there is only
64bit
L281[14:32:15] <JVFoxy> you know if you
are 32 or 64 bit?
L282[14:32:19] <shaun> 64
L283[14:32:20] <Althego> i dont see 32
bit
L284[14:32:22] <UmbralRaptop> Hah. The
Linux version of the DLC comes with another zip file that you found
probably just unzip into your game data.
L285[14:33:07] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah, the
shell script does just that.
L286[14:33:12] *
UmbralRaptop amused
L287[14:33:32] <Althego> and the script
just unzips the inner zip lol
L288[14:33:40] <JVFoxy> erp..
L289[14:33:45] <Althego> why did they do
that
L290[14:33:49] <Althego> what is the point
of that
L291[14:33:55] <JVFoxy> ok well I tried..
like I said, I don't know anything about Linux.. just going by what
I find online
L292[14:34:11] <Althego> think of it as a
fancy dos :)
L293[14:34:18] <UmbralRaptop> There should
be, but I can't test it easily.
L294[14:34:20] <JVFoxy> well fancy or
not...
L295[14:34:37] <JVFoxy> but any case...
AFK, something's come up, sorry.
L296[14:34:45] <Althego> so anyway, that
script is completely unnecessary
L297[14:37:14] <shaun> well the language
pack did help me
L298[14:37:59] <Althego> there is no
language pack :)
L299[14:38:56] <shaun> there are 2 dot
files in the directory?
L301[14:39:39] <Althego> . and ..?
L302[14:39:42] <Althego> no
L303[14:39:48] <shaun> yes
L304[14:39:51] <Althego> . is here, .. is
one up
L305[14:40:29] <Althego> so ./whatever is
here. ../whatever is one level higher
L306[14:40:59] <shaun> funny they are just
listed as a dot, no name etc with them
L307[14:40:59] <Althego> landing a landing
pad on a mountain peak
L308[14:41:32] <Althego> i should have
thought of that, but i didnt. what an opportunity missed
L309[14:42:14] <Althego> not really funny,
literally every os today does that
L310[14:42:38] <Althego> ok, maybe
templeos doesnt but with the death of its sole user, nobody uses it
anymore
L311[14:44:12] <shaun> Ok I think I will
need to contact support as I am not getting anywhere. I had KSP
installed once ages ago w/o all this hassle
L312[14:44:28] <Althego> not really. all
you have to do is extract the zip
L313[14:44:50] <shaun> done that twice, no
go
L314[14:47:46] <UmbralRaptop> … I should
see if KSP runs under the Linux subsystem
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L317[14:55:47] <JVFoxy> ...
L318[14:57:29] <shaun> ok many thanks for
your help. Have to go
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L320[14:58:23] <JVFoxy> ./ and ../ I
remember those from old dos days.
L321[14:59:56] <Althego> except there it
was with \
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L323[15:02:04] <JVFoxy> Althego be
thankful those plates don't have aerodynamics.
L324[15:02:17] <JVFoxy> eh.. I don't
remember if it was / or
L325[15:02:19] <JVFoxy> \
L326[15:02:26] <Althego> as i sad, i didnt
do it
L327[15:03:41] <JVFoxy> landed a crewed
pod on one of the peaks too.. though the ground was level enough,
things didn't tip over.
L329[15:04:54] <JVFoxy> put this up there
for a moment.. have to get going soon
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L337[16:27:10] <darsie> So ckan thinks it
has it cached.
L338[16:27:23] <darsie>
~/.local/share/CKAN/downloads
L339[16:27:53] <darsie> Or how do I name
it? others are named like 5EE48475-RealHeat-v4.5.zip
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L342[16:38:31] <darsie> sha1 of the
download URL
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L351[17:53:53] <darsie> Hmm, I have 0.3
fps in the VAB with RO, RSS, RP1.
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L353[17:54:02] <darsie> core2 quad 3 GHz,
NVIDIA Corporation G94GL [Quadro FX 1800] (rev a1)
L354[17:54:11] <darsie> 8 GB RAM
L355[17:54:18] <darsie> KSP 1.3.1
L356[17:54:37] <darsie> I could select a
root part, but fail to pick up other parts from the menu.
L357[17:54:49] <darsie> I paid the entry
cost.
L358[17:55:18] <darsie> How can I make
this playable? Do I need a faster computer?
L359[17:55:55] <darsie> Do the 8192 maps
slow it down? Seems ok in the KSC.
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L362[18:05:10] <UmbralRaptor> Those
probably would.
L363[18:05:34] <darsie> :)
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L367[18:13:00] <packbart> "Cannot
toggle SAS. 202013.9 seconds until it becomes available
again." - huh. wat. why?
L368[18:13:25] <packbart> I justed updated
a mod, could that be the cause? I'll revert the GameData git commit
and try again
L369[18:14:05] <darsie> packbart: Do you
have EC?
L370[18:14:53] <packbart> yes, 12k EC and
Commnet connection and a probe core. It did work previously. Now I
see this message in the debug console
L371[18:15:23] <packbart> SAS is on, btw.
I can't turn it _off_
L372[18:15:34] <packbart> I can change
modes and it will reorient the craft
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L374[18:17:53] <packbart> I updated the
StationPartsExpandedReduxed mod but it also happens to crafts
without station parts. weird. I'll revert the mod and test with a
new sandbox
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L378[18:30:02] <packbart> no, I checked
out the previous GameData dir and it's still not toggleable.
odd.
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L381[18:32:21] <packbart> oh, I think I
know. I edited this sandbox and copied two flights from another
savegame. Their mission elapsed time begins before Day 0 UT
L382[18:33:29] <packbart> KSP even
displays a negative MET, counting backwards :) That's what I get
for editing savegames
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L389[19:08:56] <Neal1> how is it counting
backward? absolute value increasing or decreasing?
L390[19:22:04] <UmbralRaptor> Launch date
in the future?
L391[19:23:02] <darsie> 10
L392[19:23:03] <darsie> 9
L393[19:23:04] <darsie> 7
L394[19:23:09] <darsie> oops :)
L395[19:26:00] <packbart> UmbralRaptor:
Launch date before the beginning of time
L396[19:26:35] <UmbralRaptor> Iä!
Iä!
L397[19:27:24] <packbart> oh, right. in
persistent.sfs the VESSEL contains "met =
-19336.820908247573"
L398[19:28:10] <packbart> I think I copied
it from another savegame with a positive MET into a savegame at UT
0
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L403[19:34:57] <UmbralRaptor> oops
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L405[19:37:19] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Lavos Day approaches, Destruction will rain
from the heavens!
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L408[20:34:54] <bees> You attempt to go to
space with an orbital airship. It is used by nefarious
porpoises.
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L414[21:00:52] <darsie> The mod that
slowed down the VAB was Textures Unlimited. Works fine without
it.
L415[21:04:20] <UmbralRaptor> RAM
Unlimited
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L422[23:04:20] <Rolf> lol reminds me of
old mission bot here
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L424[23:06:05] <UmbralRaptor> You explain
how the missile knows where it is. Everything went better than
expected!
L425[23:07:29] <Rolf> You add HAL system
to rocket. It was widely viewed as bad idea and mission was a
failure.
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L427[23:11:23] *
UmbralRaptor recalls adding a bunch of outcomes that killed
everyone with fancy physics.
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L429[23:13:21] <Rolf> i added a bunch,
some of em was so funny but its been a while so cant really recall
besides adding HAL one
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