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L3[00:46:24] <GlassYuri> so it seems that
since I smashed the damn connector, all I can do now is take the
phone to a professional data recovery
L4[00:47:54] <Althego> hulk smash
L5[00:48:19] <Althego> how about wifi?
L6[00:48:32] <Althego> you could just copy
things
L7[00:49:10] <GlassYuri> phone should be in
airplane mode with wifi off
L8[00:49:50] <Althego> not for a backup
:)
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L10[00:57:06] <Izaya> so no USB either I
take it, so no ADB?
L11[00:58:41] <GlassYuri> yeah, can't turn
on usb debugging
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L20[02:20:03] <Fluburtur> that is why only
3 peoples can understand when I say "gornier" and then
laugh like an idiot
L21[02:20:37] <Althego> laboratoire
garnier
L22[02:21:59] <Fluburtur> it is because in
il2 1946 the horten 229 is called the gotha 229
L23[02:22:08] <Fluburtur> so itonly show
the initials go 229
L24[02:22:11] <Fluburtur> so we called it
gornier
L25[02:23:21] <Althego> the transition from
229 to rnier is mysterious
L26[02:23:30] <Gasher[work]> lol
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L29[02:32:42] <Althego> safety glasses, to
server and protect
L30[02:32:57] <Althego> -r
L31[02:33:06] <Fluburtur> that was good
safety glasses but probably the cheapest grinder disc ever
L32[02:33:16] <Fluburtur> those are not
supposed to snap in half like that
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L37[03:54:16] <Eddi|zuHause> for some weird
reason the jump from "go" to "gornier" seems
less crazy than the jump from "horten" to
"gotha"
L38[04:00:19] <Gasher[work]> the latter
seems to be a misattribution to me
L40[04:01:09] <Gasher[work]> or rather, a
coincidental simialr name of the designers and the company which
produced it
L42[04:03:55] <Eddi|zuHause> well, it WAS
technically a factory for train wagons...
L43[04:04:05] <Gasher[work]> lol
indeed
L44[04:04:35] <Gasher[work]> well by the
size of it, i'd rather call that a flying shed, not a boxcar
L45[04:04:38] <Eddi|zuHause> these trams
were produced in the 1950s
L46[04:04:49] <Gasher[work]> oh, also maybe
railroad cars were smaller back then
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L50[04:17:01] <Gasher_> Eddi|zuHause, i
recall that statement that during the WW1 if you wanted to produce
aircraft you'd only need a supply of engines and a piano-making
workshop
L51[04:25:11] <Eddi|zuHause> that was
before planes were made of aluminium :p
L52[04:25:35] <Rokker> aluminum
L53[04:25:54] <Eddi|zuHause> no
L54[04:26:04] <Gasher_> american planes
are
L55[04:26:31] <Rokker> wait what
L56[04:26:36] <Rokker> what to heck
L57[04:26:37] <Eddi|zuHause> we're talking
about german planes
L58[04:26:38] <Rokker> go 229
L59[04:26:50] <Rokker> my eyes hurt dont
make me read that again
L60[04:27:08] <Gasher_> that was mostly
wooden
L61[04:27:25] <Gasher_> Eddi|zuHause, then
it should be Aluminium :)
L62[04:27:30] <Rokker> no u
L63[04:28:00] <Rokker> I hate this Me 109
and Go 229 historical revisionism crap
L64[04:28:01] <Rokker> shoo
L65[04:28:08] <Rokker> Bf and Ho
L66[04:28:12] <Rokker> begone
L67[04:28:41] <Gasher_> your Bf?
L68[04:29:26] <Fluburtur> Rokker there is a
non zero chance I will come to your country in the next one or two
years
L69[04:29:39] <Fluburtur> in order ot visit
flite test, my friend foamie ninja and maybe peter
L70[04:29:51] <Rokker> Fluburtur: you shall
be the second Frenchman I show around the nmusaf
L71[04:30:36] <Gasher_> oh, about Al
L72[04:30:46] <Gasher_> they brought some
for me to work on
L73[04:33:18] <Gasher_> according to that
site, us analogues will be 2024 and 7075
L74[04:40:01] <Eddi|zuHause>
<GlassYuri> so it seems that since I smashed the damn
connector, all I can do now is take the phone to a professional
data recovery <-- isn't that just "take out the SD card and
put it in a working phone"?
L75[04:41:07] <GlassYuri> Eddi|zuHause,
internal storage
L76[04:53:31] <Eddi|zuHause> "The use
of Gotha planes in WW1 to bomb London was one of the reasons for
renaming the ruling family into 'Windsor'"
L77[04:56:41] <Gasher_> oh yeah, one of the
triple family name was it
L78[04:58:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd not call
it triple, but it was "Sachsen Coburg und Gotha"
L79[04:59:18] <Fluburtur> I think someone
sold my phone number, i got two calls i didnt want today
L80[04:59:22] <Fluburtur> didnt answer them
tho
L81[04:59:50] <Eddi|zuHause> and if it was
your mom who got a new phone?
L82[05:00:47] <Fluburtur> well according to
what peoples on the internet say about this number, I doubt
it
L83[05:01:06] <Fluburtur> plus I havent
talked to my mom in about 5 years so I wouldnt answaer
anyways
L84[05:01:13] <Gasher_> it is written with
hyphens in russian
L85[05:02:37] <Eddi|zuHause> but the key
here is the two cities of "Coburg" and "Gotha",
where "Sachsen" is more like an overarching prefix
L86[05:03:25] <Gasher_> i'd say each
language has its own transliteration traditions
L87[05:03:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think
the name was properly standardized
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L89[05:04:33] <Eddi|zuHause> there was also
a "Sachsen Weimar-Eisenach", which is famously known for
hosting Goethe and Schiller
L90[05:05:44] <Eddi|zuHause> but the name
"Sachsen" was really widespread
L91[05:06:21] <Eddi|zuHause> like, there
was a "Sachsen Lauenburg" which isn't even remotely close
to these two
L92[05:06:54] <Eddi|zuHause> and the
electorate of Sachsen, which was much larger and more
important
L93[05:08:58] <Gasher_> well saxony is
quite a large area
L94[05:10:29] <Eddi|zuHause> well,
historically, the saxon tribes even lived in a different area. the
name shifted with the ruling families, not the people moving
L95[05:11:53] <Gasher_> ah, and the people.
right
L96[05:16:15] <Eddi|zuHause> and then
there's this weird roundabout way where 1000 years after "the
anglos and saxons" invaded britain, they made a person from
Hannover their king, which is in a region now called "Lower
Saxony", which roughly encompasses the original settlement
area of the saxon tribes
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L103[06:02:37] <Fluburtur> no frog, I want
a refund
L104[06:03:13] <Gasher_> where's the
frog
L105[06:06:53] <taniwha> under the
headphone band
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L117[08:02:43] <GlassYuri> so my phone is
unsalvageable. my only remaining choice is use USB OTG to connect
an arduino which sends mouse coordinates calculated from
screenshots to authenticate and enable USB debugging
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L121[08:03:29] <GlassYuri> or
alternatively, obtain a second device, connect an actual mouse, and
trace the required mouse movements on paper
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OneN1ck350Days[ is now known as OneNick349Days
L131[08:59:58] <TheKosmonaut> Thanks to
OneNick349Days for letting me know how many days are left in the
year
L132[09:00:07] <OneNick349Days> you are
welcome
L133[09:00:26] <OneNick349Days> finally
some recognition, everyone else just abuses me :(
L134[09:01:26] <GlassYuri> oh hey
TheKosmonaut I had something I wanted to tell you but forgot about
it
L135[09:01:46] <APlayer> o/ Kosmo, long
time no see
L137[09:07:33] <APlayer> What's
that?
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L139[09:12:19] <GlassYuri> APlayer, eel
surface burst
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L144[09:23:02] <APlayer> Actually, now
that there is no super-imminent work... I think I'm just going to
fire up KSP and play for a bit. So long...
L145[09:23:40] <Althego> and thanks fro
all the fish
L146[09:24:11] <APlayer> Yo, thanks
fro!
L147[09:26:57] <Althego> and it took
insight a week to lower the seismometer from the ground to the
ground
L148[09:27:23] <Althego> with this speed
maybe we can see the cover on it in a month
L149[09:32:00] <APlayer> The next
meteorite impact on Mars is not scheduled before April, so there is
still time
L150[09:37:21] <TheKosmonaut> APlayer: I
am always here
L151[09:37:25] <TheKosmonaut> Only kosmo
is doing
L152[09:38:17] <APlayer> Only kosmo is
doing what?
L153[09:38:21] <Althego> hehe
L154[09:38:33] <Althego> i think it is a
reference to the allah is doing guy
L155[09:38:44] <TheKosmonaut> Mod9000 is
not doing
L156[09:38:48] <TheKosmonaut> Only kosmo
is doing
L158[09:38:56] <kmath>
<✔NASAInSight> My seismometer has now crouched down to its
lowest level, for a better connection with #Mars. Faint signals are
eas…
https://t.co/gsMSi6e2aH
L159[09:39:00] <Althego> i mean this took
them a week
L160[09:39:00] *
APlayer is not doing understanding
L162[09:39:35] <Althego> sometimes a
guy/bot comes in. then starts to spam lines like: the sun is not
doing, allah is doing. etc
L163[09:39:44] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha:
good looking deep spacecraft
L164[09:39:54] <TheKosmonaut> My monitor
is busted and I can't afford to fix it (thanks apple)
L165[09:40:02] <TheKosmonaut> So I haven't
played in months
L167[09:40:52] <taniwha> ouch
L168[09:41:03] <APlayer> o/ taniwha, long
time no see too!
L169[09:41:12] <taniwha> hi, APlayer
:)
L170[09:41:17] <APlayer> Kosmo: Awww. No
spare laying around in the basement?
L171[09:41:24] <Althego> what was that
with the frog on your head?
L172[09:41:27] <APlayer> That's how I got
myself a second monitor
L173[09:41:35] <APlayer> :P
L174[09:41:42] <taniwha> Althego: I use a
little toy frog to cushion my headphones
L175[09:41:59] <APlayer> Ooh, nice craft
you have there
L176[09:42:17] <taniwha> (the cross-head
strap is covered with leather, but hard metal is hard metal and
digs in after an hour or so)
L177[09:43:12] *
APlayer does not want to upgrade to 1.6 and later go fixing all the
mods again
L178[09:43:14] <taniwha> APlayer:
thanks
L180[09:43:40] <taniwha> (it was built on
gilly, is enroute to duna)
L181[09:43:50] <APlayer> How many parts is
it made of?
L182[09:43:50] <taniwha> I'm still on
1.5.1
L183[09:43:53] <taniwha> 125
L184[09:43:57] <APlayer> I'm still on 1.3
:P
L185[09:44:03] <taniwha> 48 of then RLA
LV-Nc
L186[09:44:14] <taniwha> (yes, 48
engines)
L187[09:44:23] <APlayer> Why so
many?
L188[09:44:32] <taniwha> thrust :)
L189[09:44:39] <taniwha> but they're only
230kg each, so...
L190[09:44:45] <taniwha> (they produce
6.45kN)
L191[09:44:48] <APlayer> Bah, impatient
folks these days :P
L192[09:44:59] <taniwha> 0.3g is
impatient?
L193[09:45:06] <APlayer> Definitely
L194[09:45:17] <APlayer> You should use
ion engines more often :P
L195[09:45:48] <taniwha> My low sun rescue
mission had a whopping... could not lift from Minmus surface
L196[09:46:10] <taniwha> (had to add 3
more LV-Ns to get it off the surface)
L197[09:46:21] <taniwha> then removed them
again for the ΔV
L198[09:46:26] <APlayer> IIRC, the last
non surface-to-orbit thing I flew had a TWR of 0.005
L199[09:46:34] <Althego> hehe
L200[09:46:41] <Althego> that is
useless
L201[09:46:52] <Althego> at least i would
never wait for it
L202[09:47:05] <APlayer> Ion engines,
direct hohmann transfer from Kerbin to Duna in KScale64
L203[09:47:13] <taniwha> you don't wait
for it, you chat with your viewers ;)
L204[09:47:13] <APlayer> The burn took 8
hours on x8 time warp
L205[09:47:21] <APlayer> :P
L206[09:47:29] <Althego> which is stil la
bargain compared to a real probe with months
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L209[09:48:59] <taniwha> compare the two
KSP intercepts and KAC's data
L210[09:49:33] <APlayer> That's a thing I
may have asked in the past, but... How does KSP actually calculate
the closest approach?
L211[09:49:50] <Althego> probably
complicated :)
L212[09:49:58] <taniwha> well, for
rendezvous, it's not: it's where your orbit crosses your target's
orbit
L213[09:50:21] <APlayer> But they can't
really perfectly cross, can they?
L214[09:50:27] <taniwha> then, KSP just
finds those times and checks the target's position at those
times
L215[09:50:33] <taniwha> of course they
can
L216[09:50:54] <taniwha> or at least
within 1m
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L218[09:51:03] <APlayer> That's what I
mean
L219[09:51:04] <taniwha> (or less,
really)
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L221[09:51:27] <APlayer> But isn't that
rare? I mean, I would expect that most orbits come no closer than
10, 20, 30 m
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L223[09:51:43] <taniwha> I've seen KAC say
closest aproach was < 1m
L224[09:52:32] <taniwha> not so much rare,
but difficult to get from a large distance
L225[09:54:53] <APlayer> But assuming the
2.2 km separation marker you have there
L226[09:55:14] <APlayer> Probably the
actual orbit lines have a separation of a few 10s or 100s of
m
L227[09:55:34] <taniwha> not related
L228[09:55:37] <APlayer> How would the
closest approach be calculated with those?
L229[09:55:42] <taniwha> its the
timing
L230[09:55:54] <APlayer> Timing?
L231[09:56:04] <taniwha> the three
numbers
L232[09:56:11] <taniwha> anyway, as for
your how: projection
L233[09:56:43] <taniwha> is one way,
anyway
L234[09:57:18] <taniwha> however, the way
I did it for KSP was to find the closest points between two
curves
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L236[09:57:57] <taniwha> and that...
L237[09:58:17] <BPlayer> Apologies, I
didn't receive anything past "projection"
L238[09:58:27] <taniwha> the line from the
closest point on any curve to an arbitrary point is perpendicular
to the curve at that point
L239[09:58:39] <taniwha> however, the way
I did it for KSP was to find the closest points between two
curves
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L241[09:58:57] <taniwha> all you missed of
importance was the one line
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L244[09:59:50] <CPlayer> Someone is
messing with the router
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L246[09:59:55] <taniwha> so the closest
"approach" between two curves is where the line from a
point on one curve to a point on the other is perpendicular to
/both/ curves
L247[10:00:38] <APlayer> taniwha: That
makes sense. So it calculates the closest approach as the distance
between the two vessels when one of them will be on this
line?
L248[10:01:01] <taniwha> well, that's not
the closest approach, and KSP doesn't say it is
L249[10:01:13] <taniwha> (that's why it
says "intercept")
L250[10:01:20] <APlayer> The intercept,
then :D
L251[10:01:25] <taniwha> but yes
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L253[10:02:14] <APlayer> And what about
the scenario where the orbits do not intersect even remotely?
L254[10:02:15] <taniwha> now, for closest
approach (for planetary bodies), KSP starts from the intercept
points searching for the actual closest approach (I think, that
code was messier and I didn't get to fix it properly)
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L256[10:02:40] <taniwha> APlayer: no
change
L257[10:03:15] <APlayer> Gradient descent
optimizing distance against time?
L258[10:03:29] <APlayer> Or something
along the lines, that is
L259[10:03:48] <taniwha> no, it still
finds the closest points on the two curves
L260[10:04:40] <taniwha> no matter how far
apart two curves are (or their shapes), there will always be at
least one minimum distance
L261[10:05:11] <APlayer> I see
L262[10:05:13] <taniwha> for conic
sections, there can be two
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L264[10:05:59] <Tank2333> Hi
L265[10:06:00] <taniwha> (I think)
L266[10:06:00] <Mod9000> Hello,
Tank2333
L267[10:06:14] <taniwha> hi,
Tank2333
L268[10:06:15] <APlayer> For conic
sections, there definitely can be two
L269[10:06:31] <Tank2333> O/
L270[10:06:36] <APlayer> E.g., one conic
section intersecting the other, twice
L271[10:06:46] <APlayer> Can even have a
shared focus
L272[10:07:32] <taniwha> APlayer: it's the
"or more" I'm unsure of
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L274[10:07:40] <taniwha> (I think there
aren't more, but...)
L275[10:08:02] <taniwha> I know there are
also (at least?) two furthest points
L276[10:08:18] <taniwha> (paired)
L277[10:08:25] <APlayer> Could they also
intersect four times?
L278[10:08:30] <APlayer> With a shared
focus?
L279[10:08:35] <taniwha> ie, for every
closest line, there's a furthest
L280[10:09:05] <taniwha> ok, yeah, for
non-shared focus, 4 closest is possible
L281[10:09:19] <taniwha> it's for shared
that I think there are only 2 of each
L282[10:10:04] <taniwha> er, no, darn. I
just managed to imagine a scenario with 4 closest points
L283[10:10:22] <taniwha> (near) circular
orbit + extreme hyperbolic orbit
L284[10:10:24] <APlayer> I suppose, being
pedantic, you could say that an infinite amount of closest points
is possible with two circles
L285[10:10:41] <taniwha> you *see* only
two, but there are actually four because of the other side of the
hyperbola
L286[10:10:52] <taniwha> and yes, there's
that
L287[10:10:55] <TheKosmonaut> Glassyuri:
Bao shao mian?
L288[10:10:59] <APlayer> Well, that's not
quite how it works with orbits
L289[10:11:04] <APlayer> There is not
"other" side
L290[10:11:08] <APlayer> no*
L291[10:11:10] <TheKosmonaut> Oh. Guess he
went off
L292[10:11:11] <taniwha> APlayer: yes
there is
L293[10:11:27] <taniwha> it just takes
2*infinite time to get there
L294[10:11:32] <APlayer> Hehe
L295[10:11:49] <taniwha> or NaN, depending
on your pedantry
L296[10:12:01] <APlayer> infinf
L297[10:12:32] <taniwha> but... the other
side is sometimes physical: when the force is repulsive rather than
attractive
L298[10:12:52] <taniwha> (eg, two +ve
charges)
L299[10:13:27] <taniwha> and in the
repulsive case, hyperbolas are the only possibility
L300[10:14:16] <APlayer> I see
L301[10:14:17] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut,
lol even google gives 'eel surface burst' as a possible translation
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%E7%88%86%E9%B3%9D%E9%9D%A2
L303[10:22:34] <taniwha> heh
L304[10:22:57] <taniwha> anyway, I need to
get to bed
L305[10:23:04] <taniwha> had planned on
going an hour ago :/
L306[10:23:36] <Althego> boldy go
L307[10:24:38] <APlayer> Good night!
L308[10:27:01] <TheKosmonaut> GlassYuri:
that's probably how they did it
L309[10:27:09] <TheKosmonaut> Looks good
though, I'd eat it.
L310[10:27:25] <TheKosmonaut> Proper
translation should probably be fried freshwater eel noodles
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L312[10:31:37] <GlassYuri> TheKosmonaut,
the were very consistent about translating 面 as surface, except for
a few meals where it got lost completely
L315[10:35:49] <Althego> i never wanted to
eat a mine
L316[10:36:27] <Fluburtur> I dont think c4
is poisonous
L317[10:36:30] <Fluburtur> or not that
much
L319[10:37:25] <GlassYuri> Fluburtur, IIRC
soldiers in vietnam would eat the claymore to fake sickness, but if
you eat too much C4 it will completely destroy your liver
L320[10:42:45] <Fluburtur> I hope weather
will be nice tomorrow
L321[10:42:51] <Fluburtur> I want to fly
the glider to 1km up
L322[10:48:45] <Althego> wintergatan
L323[10:49:12] <Fluburtur> I think I will
buy the wintergatan tshirt
L324[10:49:56] <Althego> tehre is some
zzzz-zzzz
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L328[11:04:22] <APlayer> So, I am trying
to make an all SRB launcher in RSS
L329[11:04:26] <APlayer> Wish me
luck
L330[11:04:59] <NomalRaptor> Good
luck
L331[11:05:23] <Fluburtur> build a
vega?
L332[11:05:31] <APlayer> Sort of
L333[11:06:02] <NomalRaptor> An Epsilon or
Lambda?
L334[11:06:08] <APlayer> Hehe
L335[11:06:22] <APlayer> Just a four stage
SRB launcher
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L338[11:07:02] <APlayer> 1.6% payload mass
ratio
L339[11:07:13] <APlayer> Probably will be
even less
L340[11:07:29] <Althego> but it should be
cheap because of the solids
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L342[11:07:55] <Althego> nomal?
L343[11:08:37] <NomalRaptor> Yes. There
are, uh, reasons.
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L345[11:10:51] <APlayer> Yeah, I guess the
numbers look much better if you double the size of stage 1
L346[11:11:00] <APlayer> MOAR SRB
L347[11:11:47] <APlayer> New payload
ratio: More like 0.8%
L348[11:12:16] <APlayer> Launch costs
about 50k funds per ton to orbit.
L349[11:17:53] <APlayer> What shall we
call this monstrosity?
L350[11:18:18] <Althego> a solid rod
:)
L351[11:18:52] <APlayer> Good enough
:D
L352[11:19:06] <APlayer> So it shall be
SR-1
L353[11:19:07] <NomalRaptor>
"??"
L354[11:20:20] <APlayer> Oohh, FMRS popped
up. I might allow stage recovery!
L356[11:24:15] <APlayer> Oh, it will not
make it because Kerbalism is broken and does not recognize the
antenna link. Let me disable that
L358[11:29:37] <Althego> hehe
L360[11:30:01] <Fluburtur> red orchestra 2
is the best game ever
L361[11:30:55] <APlayer> Eww.
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L364[11:32:38] <Althego> who is johann and
why should i care about him?
L365[11:45:11] <APlayer> I guess when you
make an all SRB rocket, throttling the boosters in VAB might be
helpful to avoid burning up at 20 km altitude
L366[11:58:01] <darsie> Or add more
payload.
L367[11:59:30] <darsie> 50 kVF/t to orbit?
In what reality?
L368[12:00:16] <APlayer> kVF/t?
L369[12:00:25] <darsie> kilo virtual funds
per ton
L370[12:00:26] <APlayer> KSP Funds?
L371[12:00:30] <darsie> yep
L372[12:00:32] <Althego> drop the
virtual
L373[12:00:42] <APlayer> Uh, is that much
or little?
L374[12:00:47] <Althego> i was trying to
think of something why the v was there
L375[12:01:07] <NomalRaptor> The funds
logo looks sort of like a √
L376[12:01:14] <darsie> Isn't it more like
1 kUSD/kg?
L377[12:01:23] <darsie> 10 kUSD
L378[12:01:38] <APlayer> On second look,
it reminds me of a stylized VF
L379[12:08:20] <APlayer> Actually, the
rocket seems to be stable enough
L380[12:08:32] <APlayer> Just low TWR,
surprisingly
L381[12:08:59] <APlayer> And exceedingly
high towards the end of a stage
L382[12:10:42] *
darsie built a 1 t payload for 1400 VF ...
L383[12:10:51] <APlayer> This is RSS
L384[12:11:04] <APlayer> And an all SRB
rocket :P
L385[12:11:30] <darsie> ok :)
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L387[12:13:40] <APlayer> I think I forgot
how to KSP too. Failing to launch this thing
L388[12:16:53] <darsie> Press space
;)
L389[12:17:37] <APlayer> Afraid that's not
going to do it
L390[12:18:21] <packbart> roving on the
ocean floor. I've never been down here before
L391[12:18:51] <APlayer> Do you get a nice
view?
L392[12:18:54] <Althego> jeb was not
killed violently
L393[12:19:39] <darsie> It's damn hard to
land with parachute without falling over.
L394[12:19:40] <APlayer> Jeb lived up to
his expectations, and when they happened, he died in a natural
way
L395[12:20:33] <Althego> the ocean floor,
brought to you by taniwha
L396[12:20:55] <APlayer> Bathyniwha
L397[12:21:11] <darsie> My Jeb escaped
death by sneaking into a rocket bound for a huge orbit. Not he's
stranded far from the solar system.
L398[12:21:16] <Althego> and since then i
visited all the ocean floors in the kerbol system
L399[12:21:38] *
APlayer wonders if Kerbol has an ocean floor
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L401[12:22:09] <Althego> it doesnt even
have a surface
L402[12:22:24] <Althego> btw why isnt it
kersol?
L403[12:22:36] <Althego> ok offciically it
is the sun
L404[12:22:46] <APlayer> Because they are
not Kersals
L405[12:22:49] <packbart> It's a nice blue
view :) I might set up a base down here
L406[12:23:36] <darsie> There is altitude
above Kerbol.
L407[12:25:27] <APlayer> Anyone remember
KSP or IRL LEO orbital velocity?
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L409[12:25:46] <Althego> 2.35 km/s vs 7.5
km/s?
L410[12:26:05] <APlayer> I mean KSP RSS,
that is. Hence LEO
L411[12:26:33] <APlayer> 7.5 seems doable
at this point
L412[12:26:41] <APlayer> On track for
about 8 km/s
L413[12:27:13] <APlayer> Plus my payload
has limited propulsion capacity if needed
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L415[12:32:19] <APlayer> Aye, 237x5 km
"orbit" by solid rockets!
L416[12:32:35] <APlayer> Easy to adjust
with RCS thrusters now
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L418[12:43:41] <Althego> finally some
launch dates appeared
L419[12:44:03] <Althego> does the nrol
make it this time? find out in our next episode!
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L424[12:56:17] <Althego> skiing again?
:)
L425[12:59:56] <APlayer> No, mildly
incompetent people trying to do weird things with the router
L426[13:00:06] <APlayer> Without any
warning, that is
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L435[14:10:31] <Althego> and that is how
planes are made
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L442[14:56:29] <darsie> If I fly more than
once around Kerbin, unpowered, am I in orbit? :)
L443[14:56:56] <APlayer> Unpowered, as in
no engine, but Kerbals paddling at the air?
L444[14:57:20] <darsie> no engines,
kerbals in capsule.
L445[14:57:29] <NomalRaptor> Revenge of
the infiniglider!
L446[14:57:30] <darsie> but Pe<70
km.
L447[14:57:49] <darsie> irl it would count
as orbit.
L448[14:58:25] <darsie> Sputnik was in
orbit, too.
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L450[15:00:10] <JVFoxy> you can be in
orbit, and part of it deep in the atmesphere...
L451[15:00:13] <JVFoxy> won't last too
long though
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L454[15:35:34] <Mat2ch> that's an orbit,
yep
L455[15:36:42] <NomalRaptor> I mean, it
works for MAVEN's deep dips.
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L467[17:43:51] <Eddi|zuHause> game seems
to think "orbit" is a different thing :p
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L469[17:56:21] <JVFoxy> Eddit|zuHause
oh?
L470[17:56:35] <JVFoxy> Eddi|zuHause
oop
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L474[18:42:36] <JVFoxy> umm....
L475[18:43:05] <JVFoxy> ok so canard type
plane.. but instead of pointed cone for tail.. reversed, upside
down airplane cockpit...
L476[18:43:35] <NomalRaptor> Probably KSP
officially defining orbit as pe above atmo and surface; ap inside
of the SOI
L477[18:46:06] <JVFoxy> well if its not
touching surface...
L478[18:46:28] <JVFoxy> it also doesn't
consider the path to be suborbital, till you get up past the 70km
mark. Even if the path is already sub
L479[18:46:44] <JVFoxy> ie.. more based on
your position in the path
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L482[19:02:37] <JVFoxy> I made a flying
thing... if it weren't for the air thing, probably couldn't tell
which way it was going :P
https://imgur.com/a/p3J8neI
L484[19:07:32] <Eddi|zuHause>
<JVFoxy> Eddit|zuHause oh? <-- you seriously typed that in
full?
L485[19:07:48] <Eddi|zuHause> you know you
can press e<tab>?
L486[19:09:35] <JVFoxy> eh... not on a
proper irc client
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