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L23[04:32:11] <Fluburtur> the bottleboat still works
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L27[05:00:01] <Mat2ch> \o/
L28[05:00:20] <Mat2ch> well, I was at my parents yesterday. There are still some boats for you waiting there ;)
L29[05:00:52] <Fluburtur> I know, idk when I will be able to come tho
L30[05:01:24] <Mat2ch> or when I'm going to make a roadtrip
L31[05:01:30] <Mat2ch> would be easier if I'd speak French ;P
L32[05:02:19] <Fluburtur> peoples in france are supposed to know english
L33[05:02:19] <Mat2ch> well, I have a Model 3 reserved. With an electric car this would be cheap to do, too. But I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to afford it...
L34[05:02:55] <Mat2ch> yeah, they probably understand me fine, but will never admit it or even answer!
L35[05:02:56] <Mat2ch> ;)
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L37[05:04:47] <Mat2ch> I wonder when teslabjörn will get his hands on a Model 3 and test how well you can camp in it ;)
L38[05:04:50] <GlassYuri> I've now booked accomodation for two nights in shanghai, two in nanjing, train tickets going shanghai -> hangzhou -> nanjing and nanjing -> suzhou -> shanghai, as well as the international train from shanghai to hong kong, another night in hong kong, and the latest possible flight that would take me back to tokyo literally on the morning school starts
L39[05:05:07] <GlassYuri> this is by an order of magnitude the most complicated plan I ever came up with in my life
L40[05:05:30] <Mat2ch> and I have second thoughts about driving to France...
L41[05:07:33] <Althego> you could complicate it more by adding an excursion to the moon
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L43[05:08:12] <GlassYuri> Althego, no, the moon is where it clearly states that the chinese visa regulations actually allow this
L44[05:09:19] <GlassYuri> I sent an inquiry to the shanghai immigration office, and they eventually said yes, but because their web form is so bad I now have only an answer with no question
L45[05:09:35] <Althego> lol
L46[05:09:55] <Althego> i dont understand the visa sentence
L47[05:10:14] <GlassYuri> well, the thing is, I don't have a visa
L48[05:10:45] <GlassYuri> I'm abusing the chinese transit regulations in the way they seem to be intended to be abused
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L53[05:42:06] <Althego> hehe
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L56[06:07:21] <Althego> hehe apparently you can take off the helmet on laythe
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L58[06:09:12] <Gasher[work]> once?..
L59[06:12:34] <Althego> no, the kerbal survives
L60[06:13:05] <Althego> but there was some science text (long ago) that said it feels like home but it wouldnt be safe to take off your helmet
L61[06:15:12] <Gasher[work]> damn, i forgot that over jool sunlight is weaker
L62[06:16:09] <Althego> dont try ion drives at jool
L63[06:17:03] <Althego> btw base game engine stats are not changed, old engines on crafts still work, although i had to buy the new versin again (i cheated the money back)
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L65[06:17:37] <Althego> the delta v calculator is a bit annoying that it does not default to vacuum
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L67[06:42:46] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVtg6uG7t54
L68[06:42:46] <kmath> YouTube - KSP 1.6 IS OUT ... and ... They FIXED it ??!?
L69[06:42:57] <Rolf> BIGGG fix yeah
L70[06:42:57] <Mat2ch> ShadowZone did a video about it
L71[06:43:40] <Mat2ch> but the wheels have no hitbox anymore
L72[06:43:46] <Mat2ch> Nexter already complained :D
L73[06:43:55] <Mat2ch> Because that's a reliable way to call the Kraken
L74[06:44:24] <Rolf> lol
L75[06:44:42] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/525654801799708692/DSC_0283.JPG
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L77[07:12:30] <Althego> heh even more delays https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1075555843016400896
L78[07:12:30] <kmath> <✔blueorigin> Through fixing the ground infrastructure issue, we have determined additional systems need to be addressed. We have… https://t.co/AxBVYYAJZh
L79[07:12:57] <Althego> havent checked them sooner because they initially shifted the launch on friday
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L91[08:05:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i seem to remember walking through wheels in 1.5 already
L92[08:06:14] <Althego> and there is video about that
L93[08:06:38] <Eddi|zuHause> (replying to the link above)
L94[08:07:12] <Eddi|zuHause> just saying, i don't think it's a 1.6 change
L95[08:14:00] <kubi> and now waiting for the mods
L96[08:14:09] <kubi> USI first
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L98[08:16:31] <kubi> http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Mars_Express/Mars_Express_gets_festive_A_winter_wonderland_on_Mars
L99[08:16:33] <kubi> nice
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L113[11:15:54] <Althego> do you want to build a snowman (on mars)?
L114[11:18:43] <Rokker> Fluburtur: oi
L115[11:18:55] <Rokker> see the war thunder winter event?
L116[11:19:13] <Fluburtur> yeagh
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L120[11:35:53] <Althego> one thing that is missing from the stock delta v meter is the sum up to a stage
L121[11:39:00] <Althego> i dont even get how they missed this
L122[11:39:10] <Althego> that is the value that you are always the most interested in
L123[11:39:15] <Althego> not the value of a single stage
L124[11:39:48] <Althego> ok, there is a single sum
L125[11:39:59] <Althego> but that is not relevant in many cases
L126[11:40:39] <Althego> say i want to optimize the first 2 stages to just leave atmosphere
L127[11:40:48] <Althego> ok i can add the numbers, but what if it is 3?
L128[11:40:58] <Althego> starts to get annoying
L129[11:41:14] <Althego> or soem stages for landing, some stages for ascend on tylo
L130[11:41:35] <Althego> and you dont want to discard the stages with the legs before landing, so you have to have an amount in the first n stages
L131[11:44:52] <hoglahoo> picky picky
L132[11:46:18] <Althego> but ker could do this since forever
L133[11:48:00] <Fluburtur> they just tried to act like they were doing something
L134[11:48:15] <Fluburtur> but that is re-skins and adding mods again, no new stuff
L135[11:48:34] <Althego> yes lack of innovation
L136[11:48:57] <Althego> one huge holiday gift would be a new planet (saturn style) for example
L137[11:49:14] <Althego> basically no programming required, just artwork
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L139[11:49:41] <Fluburtur> I want propellers
L140[11:49:54] <Althego> that too
L141[11:49:54] <Fluburtur> and perhaps nuclear reactors or new rtg
L142[11:49:57] <Althego> electric props
L143[11:50:01] <Althego> for eve and duna
L144[11:50:05] <Fluburtur> yes
L145[11:50:13] <Althego> because who want to rove around any planet?
L146[11:50:17] <Althego> it is slow and dangerous
L147[11:50:31] <Althego> a plane is dangerous twice, takeoff and landing
L148[11:50:34] <Althego> rover is contantly
L149[11:50:41] <Fluburtur> flying a nuclear reactor around a planet is nicer
L150[11:50:45] <Althego> and an order of magniture or more slowwer
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L152[11:55:05] <Fluburtur> well, im not sure TT wants to put any effort into the game anyways
L153[11:55:24] <Fluburtur> only thing they done since the got it was make a DLC that made everyone angry
L154[11:55:37] <Althego> hehe
L155[11:55:43] <Althego> it didnt make me angry
L156[11:55:49] <Althego> but it is not really useful either
L157[11:56:01] <Althego> at least it has the other launch sites
L158[11:56:13] <Fluburtur> kerbinside does that
L159[11:56:23] <Fluburtur> but I wanted more colors for the parts
L160[11:56:32] <Althego> you have colors now
L161[11:56:37] <Althego> shut up and fly
L162[11:56:38] <Fluburtur> yeah like 3
L163[11:56:43] <Fluburtur> I wanted the green tones
L164[11:56:50] <Althego> yes orange is overrated
L165[11:56:52] <Althego> i hate orange
L166[11:57:04] <Althego> blue and green would be nicer
L167[11:57:13] <Fluburtur> now there is white, white/black and orange
L168[11:57:52] <Fluburtur> also it contradicts the game itself because the reason the game doesnt have prcedural planets is because the devs wanted peoples to share stuff
L169[11:58:20] <Fluburtur> but you cant do that as easily because of this idiotic dlc that has no purpose other than making TT more money
L170[11:58:26] <Fluburtur> anyways, time to eat
L171[11:58:52] <Althego> spacex launches tentatively tomorrow
L172[11:59:11] <Althego> ula gave up for the time being
L173[11:59:28] <Althego> blue origin is pushed to next year
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L180[12:19:42] <packbart> Fishing Planet's got an underwater biome scanner now. I wish there was a way to combine Unity game universes :)
L181[12:23:27] <Althego> hehe
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L193[13:24:39] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgkuXtQ5f9I
L194[13:24:39] <kmath> YouTube - The First Image of Tabby Star's Structure Featuring Dr. David Kipping
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L198[13:31:37] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Problems that cannot be solved with the liberal application of struts and solid rocket boosters are simply problems not worth solving to begin with.
L199[13:31:46] <Althego> lol
L200[13:32:02] <Althego> global warming, not important
L201[13:32:11] <Scolar_Visari> Ahem, I *can* solve that with struts and SRBs.
L202[13:32:21] * Scolar_Visari launches Solar shade on a Kerbalized heavy lift vehicle.
L203[13:32:21] <Althego> how?
L204[13:32:30] <Althego> fusion power?
L205[13:32:35] <Althego> quantum gravity?
L206[13:32:45] <Althego> (other problems)
L207[13:33:11] * Scolar_Visari launches mission to encompass the Sun in Solar Collectors, effectively harnessing fusion energy.
L208[13:33:27] <Scolar_Visari> And what are those Solar energy arrays held together with? STRUTS, of course.
L209[13:33:57] <Scolar_Visari> Quantum gravity? More like tiny little Planck struts bending space-time, with tiny little SRBs acting as carrier particles of gravitation.
L210[13:34:32] * Scolar_Visari eagerly awaits to publish these findings in viXar
L211[13:37:28] <UmbralRaptop> Strings are just vibrating struts
L212[13:37:50] <Scolar_Visari> EXACTLY!
L213[13:38:01] <Althego> lol
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L216[13:59:16] <Scolar_Visari> Tanks ready for their baths http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/valentine-dd-tanks.jpg
L217[14:00:44] <Althego> oil bath as c3po?
L218[14:02:26] <Scolar_Visari> Oh no, a bath in the ocean.
L219[14:03:59] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AL4h_kbMlQ
L220[14:03:59] <kmath> YouTube - Amphibious Valentine DD Tank
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L222[14:18:40] <Althego> love tank?
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L224[14:28:40] <Scolar_Visari> Infantry tank often used as a cruiser tank, because reasons.
L225[14:35:50] <Scolar_Visari> Not to be confused with tanks that have infantry riding on top.
L226[14:39:45] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/b6ae3eb7852f0f18daf749335a77e9a4/tumblr_phf7606c9M1v1tlts_540.jpg
L227[14:39:54] <Althego> lol
L228[14:40:11] <Althego> is that a bench?
L229[14:41:12] <Fluburtur> it is torture
L230[14:50:08] <Scolar_Visari> 4d Chess isn't really a thing, but we do have linear chess!
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L232[15:02:55] <Eddi|zuHause> how about 4d cheese?
L233[15:04:01] <Scolar_Visari> Mankind was not meant to taste such delights.
L234[15:04:14] <UmbralRaptop> Flavors include: Minkowski, de Sitter,…
L235[15:04:17] <Althego> lol
L236[15:05:06] <Althego> but maybe if 4d is too much we can still have fractal cheese
L237[15:06:01] <Althego> menger cheese :)
L238[15:06:03] <Althego> full of holes
L239[15:06:11] <Eddi|zuHause> sierpinsky cheese?
L240[15:06:57] <Althego> menger sponge is a 3d version of the sierpinski carpet
L241[15:07:54] <Eddi|zuHause> is that the cube one?
L242[15:07:58] <Althego> yes
L243[15:08:10] <Althego> ideal candidate for a cheese
L244[15:09:27] <Eddi|zuHause> well, if you base it on swiss cheese, you might want something with round holes
L245[15:12:13] <Scolar_Visari> So close now to the T-34/85
L246[15:12:48] <Eddi|zuHause> the T34 has round holes in it?
L247[15:13:11] <Althego> are we talking about tanks or cheese?
L248[15:13:38] <Althego> the holes are usually round :)
L249[15:14:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know anymore, today everything is such a blur
L250[15:14:20] <Althego> but there wasnt even a single launch today
L251[15:14:39] <Eddi|zuHause> do we care about landings?
L252[15:15:07] <Althego> the soyuz landing? was that today?
L253[15:15:17] <Althego> it was in one moprning, but maybe yesterday :)
L254[15:15:28] <Eddi|zuHause> dunno
L255[15:15:54] <Althego> https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/12/soyuz-ms-09-land-unprecedented-orbit-repairs/
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L257[15:16:01] <Althego> 2 days ago
L258[15:16:35] <Eddi|zuHause> youtube suddenly decided that 80% of my suggestions should be ESA stuff
L259[15:16:48] <Althego> yes dumb algorithmn
L260[15:16:51] <Althego> click on something once
L261[15:16:56] <Althego> then you cant get rid of it for days
L262[15:17:19] <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea what it thinks i clicked on
L263[15:22:02] <Althego> have to stop watching susskinf and go to bed
L264[15:22:08] <Althego> susskind
L265[15:22:21] * darsie flew a Hammer to 51-59 km and 430-560 m/s by melting the aluminium fins and opening the fairing for aerobraking: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot139.png
L266[15:22:29] <Althego> started with the classical mechanics in double speed
L267[15:22:47] <Althego> starts with high level concepts but very clear
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L269[15:29:35] <Scolar_Visari> Classical mechanics is just a refined version of prehistoric mechanics.
L270[15:33:20] <Scolar_Visari> Oh, do to recent events, it would not surprise me if there are certain delays of a certain manned space mission in Florida.
L271[15:33:31] <Scolar_Visari> Ahem https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/space/2018/12/21/how-government-shutdown-would-impact-space-coast
L272[15:33:40] <Althego> again?
L273[15:34:14] <Althego> spacex is always affected by this because some of the crew is not theirs
L274[15:36:34] <Scolar_Visari> Er, it's not just the crew. The launch facilities and support personnel are a big deal.
L275[15:37:04] <Scolar_Visari> SpaceX relies a lot of NASA in most every launch.
L276[15:37:21] <Althego> support personnel is crew
L277[15:37:30] <Althego> and the area is not theirs of course
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L281[15:53:23] <Scolar_Visari> RAMMING SPEED! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/b0/e3/aab0e3002667e429f4f696c59f65f0d3.jpg
L282[15:53:30] <Althego> hehe
L283[15:54:05] <Althego> forget the guns. ramming speed
L284[15:54:50] <Scolar_Visari> Seeing as how inconvenient reloading the early T-34s was, I don't blame them.
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L286[15:56:44] <Althego> but nobody had death blossom :)
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L288[16:03:33] <JVFoxy> noticed the face in the driver's window... freak out
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L290[16:13:30] <Althego> za warudo
L291[16:13:30] *** TheWorld is now known as AmandaC
L292[16:13:53] <Althego> heh watched another lecture
L293[16:14:04] <Althego> but really have to sleep
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L295[16:17:25] <Fluburtur> quite a lot of wind here
L296[16:17:49] <Fluburtur> not so much at ground level but from like 100 meters up clouds are moving very fast
L297[16:17:54] <Althego> get on the plane? i get in the plane, ess wind in there
L298[16:18:08] <Althego> (george carlin)
L299[16:18:51] <JVFoxy> had a lot of bad wind here yesterday. Power went out briefly.
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L308[17:01:07] <UmbralRaptop> "In addition, MRO’s HiRISE instrument was used to thoroughly scout out the landing area, with some images identifying rocks smaller than the [Phoenix] lander itself."
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L339[22:01:58] <taniwha> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/54284-151-extraplanetary-launchpads-v633/&do=findComment&comment=3509181
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