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L4[00:19:30] <Althego> hehe, so nrol-71 still didnt launch
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L7[00:32:14] <Althego> heh the soyuz ms-09 landed already
L8[00:32:19] <Althego> i didnt expect it so soon
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L25[02:20:31] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/103da2e3757c77afb31753a7f468cf9a/tumblr_pju4qrOHo81rnmyes_540.jpg
L26[02:20:56] <Althego> lol
L27[02:21:16] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/77b94097b02dac565bc2c4b23b40a7b1/tumblr_pju4qxPQIz1rnmyes_540.jpg
L28[02:25:24] <Fluburtur> time for scott manley
L29[02:29:32] <Althego> spacex launch has 20% chance because of weather
L30[02:30:38] <Fluburtur> they should all agree to launch another day
L31[02:30:44] <Fluburtur> at the exact same time
L32[02:32:56] <Fluburtur> I've been listening to wintergatan for like 3 days
L33[02:33:06] <Fluburtur> I might need help
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L37[03:07:10] <Eddi|zuHause> you might be beyond help
L38[03:07:53] <Fluburtur> im fine with that
L39[03:11:33] <Althego> but there was no video yesterday
L40[03:12:30] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqHpOKJ8u0s
L41[03:12:30] <kmath> YouTube - The Strange History and Stranger Planet of Barnard's Star
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L52[04:39:24] <Eddi|zuHause> somehow i always read Bernhard's star
L53[04:39:42] <Eddi|zuHause> and persistently, for decades...
L54[04:40:18] <Eddi|zuHause> since i first came across it in the 90s
L55[04:41:28] <Eddi|zuHause> and i'm always surprised when i hear someone say it outloud
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L61[06:12:25] * darsie saw and shot Barnard's star.
L62[06:14:16] <Althego> i shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot barnard's star
L63[06:36:55] <Mat2ch> Althego: out.
L64[06:36:59] <Mat2ch> now.
L65[06:52:45] <Althego> launch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIrgayWlI0
L66[06:52:45] <kmath> YouTube - GPS III Space Vehicle 01
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L68[07:24:32] <Althego> 7 contracts not in progress, and either high g or really far and/or high altitude data collection
L69[07:26:51] <Fluburtur> my 3d printer had a heating issue so I have to bend the wires of the heater thing in a very specific way otherwise the resistance is ridiculously high and it doesnt work
L70[07:28:16] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/0f8299b793b04d8ce7f14d94fdb818b9/tumblr_pjmk7tbmJA1rruwv7o1_400.png
L71[07:29:11] <Fluburtur> it is probably my printer trying to prevent me from killing myself because I want to spin a printed fan really fast and there is high probability it becomes interesting
L72[07:31:32] <Althego> and it is already delayed. which means a cancel
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L74[07:35:25] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/01d2fad58ff5fd1c0bd39fe8b2a5751c/tumblr_mki4nsktfu1rrzb6lo1_540.jpg
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L78[07:52:00] <Althego> https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1075745493324451840
L79[07:52:00] <kmath> <✔SpaceX> Standing down today due to weather. Vehicle and payload remain in good health. Working toward the next best launch… https://t.co/hkFAlFLm5q
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L81[07:54:01] <Fluburtur> well, is everyone else also doing the scrub fest
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L85[08:21:52] <Fluburtur> for some reason my grandma is cutting big church candles into smaller candles to have more candles
L86[08:22:16] <Althego> parallel lighting
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L88[08:22:45] <Fluburtur> actually she has the keys to to local church so I could go there do what I want any day
L89[08:22:54] <Fluburtur> and I kinda want to fly my micro quadcopter there
L90[08:22:58] <Althego> play organ
L91[08:23:24] <Fluburtur> I could
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L93[08:24:12] <Althego> survived. not cobra 11. https://www.facebook.com/policiaslovakia/videos/2228375497408730/
L94[08:24:40] <Fluburtur> that is how I drive in gta
L95[08:25:28] <Fluburtur> I have one of the electric cars in gta online and this thing has so much torque it can climb a 45° inclide
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L97[08:50:08] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/3HcMN-uY4UY
L98[08:50:08] <kmath> YouTube - 3d printed edf
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L100[09:04:55] <Althego> youtube was trying to show me a glitter bomb thing for many days. i was not interested. but it didnt say it was a device to prank those who steal it. and sure enough several people fell victim to their own greed
L101[09:10:02] <Fluburtur> time to glue that dangerously imbalanced electric turbine on a plane that died 3 time already
L102[09:23:00] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/525332260128555010/DSC_0282.JPG
L103[09:37:28] <Althego> the necromancer
L104[09:40:30] <Fluburtur> I hope the fan will explode in flight and shred the plane
L105[09:41:06] <Althego> what does the kamikaze instructor say to the students? watch carefully, because i will show this only once
L106[09:41:19] <Fluburtur> heh
L107[09:42:45] <Fluburtur> I should find proper propeller airfoils and do the math to make a good 3d printed prop
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L110[09:54:39] <kubi> hmm
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L112[09:54:51] <kubi> why is it good to have a heavy part rotating?
L113[09:55:11] <Althego> is it?
L114[09:55:25] <Fluburtur> I guess the motor has to rotate
L115[09:55:36] <kubi> some part of it yes
L116[09:55:40] <kubi> the other not
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L118[09:55:56] <kubi> the part that has the lower angular momentum should rotate
L119[09:56:21] <Fluburtur> brushless motors have the stator inside and it is the outside that rotates
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L122[10:05:10] <Althego> meanwhile on mars https://twitter.com/NASAInSight/status/1075629799693967360
L123[10:05:10] <kmath> <✔NASAInSight> Whew – winding down after a long day, but I’ve done it: I’ve placed my seismometer on the surface of Mars! With SEI… https://t.co/efCTjpKCnY
L124[10:06:15] <Althego> i dont get how the context camera got so dirty under the cover
L125[10:09:20] <Althego> and there is no info on 1.6
L126[10:09:23] <Althego> nothing
L127[10:09:37] <Althego> which means it really might be this week or even today
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L129[10:21:47] <Althego> oh no there is already somebody looking for "anomalies" in insight pictures
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L131[10:34:13] <Althego> hehe flat kerbin society https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76yYf2kb_c
L132[10:34:13] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - Boeing 2707 with working swing wings - stock
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L136[11:02:28] <Fluburtur> I had an idea for a movie scenario or part of it that I need to write down
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L148[12:03:52] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: For the purposes of improving morale, all, "failed" launch attempts will now be referred to as, "launch abort tests".
L149[12:04:00] <sandbox> 1.6?
L150[12:05:10] <darsie> Scolar_Visari: I consider them simulations.
L151[12:05:36] <Scolar_Visari> In the event of an actual failed launch (not such a thing is possible!), there would be a media blackout.
L152[12:06:03] <Scolar_Visari> This would in turn be followed by several retroactive resignations and disappearings of all non-Kerbals involved.
L153[12:06:16] <darsie> But if I find a working solution and accept it I should do it once more, for real. But I don't, usually
L154[12:06:18] <darsie> .
L155[12:06:46] <darsie> Well, ofc I have lots of rockets that fly reliably.
L156[12:06:58] <darsie> And I "reuse" some.
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L159[12:08:53] <darsie> Hmm, maybe I should use the dart occasionally. Uses very little fuel for SSTO and I might be able to recover it.
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L162[12:10:44] <Scolar_Visari> SSTOs are basically cheat mode!
L163[12:11:25] <darsie> Second rocket in the game can be SSTO.
L164[12:11:34] <darsie> Escape the Atmosphere and Orbit Kerbin.
L165[12:11:59] <darsie> Swivel+16 fuel tanks.
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L167[12:20:57] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . . There's *another* American Civil War FPS?
L168[12:21:18] * Scolar_Visari cannot ponder how exciting a muzzle loading rifled musket simulator could be.
L169[12:21:58] <Scolar_Visari> "Left click repeatedly to ram your Minié ball down the barrel! Now press the space bar to return your ram rod1"
L170[12:22:49] <Althego> lol
L171[12:24:29] <Scolar_Visari> I could totally see RPG items being a thing, too. "Jeb's Protective Overcoat: Grants 15% resistance to infection from bullet wounds."
L172[12:24:38] <UmbralRaptop> I assume you entirely use revolvers and those 7 shot carbines?
L173[12:25:17] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: Footage of the game reveals not. Heck, I'm not even sure if it has cavalry implemented or not, as they were typically the kinds of soldiers who used (and often bought with their own money) multi-shot weapons.
L174[12:25:48] <UmbralRaptop> o_O
L175[12:26:01] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . here's one idea: "Sherman's Blade of Purification: Sword gains fire damage and 25% to wound."
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L177[12:26:59] <Scolar_Visari> I think they're going the Red Orchestra route with a heaping serving of Mount & Blade.
L178[12:27:42] * Scolar_Visari ponders soldiers dropping their ramrods and percussion caps while under suppressive fire.
L179[12:28:58] * UmbralRaptop feels like this is an era where the interesting gameplay would involve hexes and morale checks.
L180[12:30:04] <Scolar_Visari> There is already a dedicated Napoleonic Warfare community for Mount & Blade.
L181[12:30:16] <UmbralRaptop> huh
L182[12:30:46] <Scolar_Visari> With smoothbore muskets and cuirassiers!
L183[12:30:59] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzcSY3OsvFw
L184[12:30:59] <kmath> YouTube - Mount & Blade: Warband - Napoleonic Wars Line Battle #1
L185[12:31:32] <UmbralRaptop> !
L186[12:31:57] <Scolar_Visari> Needs moar smoke effects and misfires
L187[12:33:34] <Scolar_Visari> Also: https://store.steampowered.com/app/48705/Mount__Blade_Warband__Napoleonic_Wars/
L188[12:34:14] * Scolar_Visari tries to imagine 200 players trying to work together in an effective Napoloenic fashion.
L189[12:34:51] <Scolar_Visari> "Alright, you guys march in a column up to the tactical crest of that hill over there and form into a two man deep line."
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L191[12:35:58] <Scolar_Visari> It's also like you can't simulate common sense attacks and run away. I mean, not enough FPS make retreat a viable option.
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L193[12:36:50] <Scolar_Visari> "Uh oh! Looks like there's a group of Hussars rolling up your right flank! Press the B button to frag your commanding officer and run away!"
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L196[12:39:30] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . RO2 and Rising Storm are on sale now.
L197[12:40:03] <umaxtu> steam sale looks a bit lame this year
L198[12:41:14] <Scolar_Visari> umaxtu: I agree. Not as many sales as I was expecting but the RO2 is honestly a good one.
L199[12:41:57] <umaxtu> the two PC games I'm playing right now are Hitman 2 and Warframe. I'm good for awhile
L200[12:42:33] <Scolar_Visari> I want a proper tank sim!
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L202[12:46:46] <Scolar_Visari> "Rapidly left click to load the shell into the breach!"
L203[12:47:51] <Gasher> Scolar_Visari, that was the moment when i felt that WoT would be a lame game https://youtu.be/9aOKauDKbN0
L204[12:47:51] <kmath> YouTube - World of Tanks. Тизерный ролик №2 (NEW)
L205[12:47:57] <Althego> hehe like in old c64 games where you had to rapidly move the joystick left and right
L206[12:48:03] <Althego> which ultimately destroyed them
L207[12:48:25] <Scolar_Visari> "Your tank is on fire! Quickly press the space bar to escape and surrender!"
L208[12:48:39] <Gasher> Althego, they are called joysticks not because they are to be jerked
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L211[12:50:30] <UmbralRaptop> uhm
L212[12:50:37] <Gasher> so, to that video - the showed that prompted with "realistic controls, realistic sounds, realistic graphics... here is what they are going to look like. So, do you really want them? We have something else for you. Coming soon"
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L214[12:50:48] <Gasher> and that was the moment when i thought I NEED THAT
L215[12:51:02] <Gasher> but nope
L216[12:51:19] <Gasher> i think my best WW2 tank experience comes from red orchestra
L217[12:51:21] <Scolar_Visari> I imagine a realistic simulator Tiger tank simulator should really involve a fair amount of non-combat minigames centered on maintenance and waiting for horse drawn carts to bring up spare parts.
L218[12:51:32] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher: Indeed, I sort of like the clausterphobic interior.
L219[12:51:44] <umaxtu> could make a good VR title
L220[12:51:55] <Gasher> i have a feeling that some people should have made something like that
L221[12:52:18] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher: Tank sims are pretty rare. Surprising, too, given the number of modern coop games.
L222[12:52:41] <Gasher> well i guess WoT have got that niche covered for mass multiplayer
L223[12:53:03] <Gasher> arcade enough to be fun
L224[12:53:39] <Scolar_Visari> What we need is an Honest to Eisenhower Sherman Tank simulator.
L225[12:54:36] <UmbralRaptop> Arcady suggestion: Bolo simulator.
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L227[12:55:13] <Althego> hehe
L228[12:55:18] <Althego> huge
L229[12:55:33] <Althego> i am yet to read anything from the bolo universe
L230[12:57:41] <JVFoxy> speaking of tanks... https://imgur.com/gallery/BXthBKc
L231[12:57:41] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/ryasKc6.gifv
L232[12:58:21] <UmbralRaptop> Unfortunately, the books not written by Keith Laumer are usually better than the ones by him.
L233[12:58:31] <Scolar_Visari> Psht, Shermans had vertical stabilization!
L234[12:59:04] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: So the opposite of Ringo's books?
L235[12:59:57] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Titanfall for $5
L236[13:00:00] <umaxtu> I was watching a tank documentary on Netflix and it showed some demo that the germans did for the stabilization system on the leopard tanks. they filled a stein of beer and put it on a plate welded to the end of the barrel, you can see where this is going
L237[13:00:22] <UmbralRaptop> Scolar_Visari: I guess?
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L239[13:01:34] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: Not that, ahem, Ringo's books were good to begin with.
L240[13:02:16] <Scolar_Visari> umaxtu: They're just jealous their tanks don't have tea making facilities.
L241[13:02:36] <UmbralRaptop> There's some fun silliness. (OTOT, "oh John Ringo no!")
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L243[13:03:04] <umaxtu> heres the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j45lrsHFLTE
L244[13:03:05] <kmath> YouTube - Leopard -2 Vs Beer :)
L245[13:03:50] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: There was one that I recall where former SS veterans were rejuvinated and used to fight aliens.
L246[13:03:57] <Scolar_Visari> That . . . raised a few eyebrows.
L247[13:04:06] <Althego> lol
L248[13:04:13] <UmbralRaptop> eep
L249[13:04:21] <Althego> unexpected
L250[13:05:09] <Scolar_Visari> I know, right: Why not use veterans who actually won a war? /s
L251[13:06:25] * Scolar_Visari ponders between Red Orchestra 2 or post-apocalypse Harvest Moon clone My Time in Portia.
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L253[13:11:10] <Scolar_Visari> Because if there's something the Harvest Moon games were lacking, it was a nuclear Hellscape.
L254[13:11:57] <umaxtu> Stardew Valley is pretty damn good
L255[13:12:26] <Scolar_Visari> I've heard that, and I like the Harvest Moon SNES aesthetic.
L256[13:13:18] <Scolar_Visari> But My Time at Portia has a sentient bear. That's alone is a pretty good reason to buy it.
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L258[13:13:30] <Scolar_Visari> And the bear walks around on two legs in a bath robe.
L259[13:13:47] <UmbralRaptop> Terraforming Mars, post-apocalyptic earth, close enough
L260[13:14:13] <Scolar_Visari> Oh hai there! https://bit.ly/2LrYFPS
L261[13:14:27] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: I was really hoping for Harvest Moon inside a generation ship.
L262[13:15:10] <Scolar_Visari> That would make for some fun crafting too. "You need four more red crystals to make a laser sprinkler!"
L263[13:16:06] <JVFoxy> Scolar_visari hmm... hai? https://www.imageconscious.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/H1183D.jpg
L264[13:16:45] <Scolar_Visari> That's Afternoon at the Park Bear.
L265[13:20:00] <JVFoxy> was another... sitting in a chair, holding a half crushed beer can.. looking pissed off at the world. :\
L266[13:20:37] <Scolar_Visari> You're thinking of Denied Worker's Comp After Getting Injured on the Job Bear
L267[13:20:56] <Scolar_Visari> Threw out his back working at the slipper warehouse.
L268[13:21:46] <JVFoxy> no.. just probably drunk, tired at life, probably retired... chair looks pretty beat up
L269[13:24:11] <Scolar_Visari> Ha! Rising Tide: Vietnam simulates the RPG-7's backblast!
L270[13:25:21] <Scolar_Visari> Er, Rising Storm.
L271[13:25:24] <Eddi|zuHause> <Althego> youtube was trying to show me a glitter bomb thing for many days. i was not interested. but it didnt say it was a device to prank those who steal it. and sure enough several people fell victim to their own greed <-- i had that same thing in my suggestions, but to me it seemed pretty obvious that was what was meant...
L272[13:27:21] <Scolar_Visari> Glitter bombs are a Class XXI Crime Against Humanity
L273[13:27:48] <Althego> i think it was ok to use against thieves
L274[13:28:15] <Gasher> yeah, omit glitter
L275[13:28:19] <Althego> lol
L276[13:28:27] <Scolar_Visari> I suppose you'd also torture thieves and leave their remains outside hanging on your fence to!?
L277[13:28:27] <Gasher> or use larger glitter
L278[13:28:35] <Eddi|zuHause> use real shrapnel?
L279[13:28:38] * Scolar_Visari considers reporting Althego to The Hague.
L280[13:28:40] <Eddi|zuHause> or uranium?
L281[13:28:43] <Gasher> like, made of lead and at least 5 mm in diameter lol
L282[13:28:58] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: Uranium's not dangerous so long as you don't inhale it or fission it into not-uranium.
L283[13:29:11] <Althego> few years ago there was a guy here who made wine. lot, several hundred liters. and people stole from him. police didnt do anything. so he poisoned the wine in his own cellar. and sure enough the wine thieves died
L284[13:29:29] * Scolar_Visari notes using depleted uranium for hunting bullets has been a real suggestion given how much more toxic lead normally is.
L285[13:29:30] <Althego> i dont remember what happened to him, but he had a court case
L286[13:29:43] <Althego> because he killed those people
L287[13:29:48] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: Technically, booby trapping is typically illegal.
L288[13:29:48] <Althego> in an indirect way
L289[13:29:50] <Gasher> well it's understandable
L290[13:30:08] <Althego> so that is why i said glitter bomb is ok, it is a prank
L291[13:30:10] <Gasher> he poisoned it in intention to kill someone, i guess taht was the line
L292[13:30:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure you go to prison for that kind of stuff
L293[13:30:35] <Althego> he poisoned it in his own house
L294[13:30:41] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher: Even non-lethal booby traps are taboo.
L295[13:30:44] <Gasher> you just have to think in a bit more complex way
L296[13:30:48] <Eddi|zuHause> he could have used vinegar
L297[13:31:01] <Eddi|zuHause> or some bitterness stuff
L298[13:31:02] <Gasher> or sedatives and laxative mix
L299[13:31:11] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher: Still legally problematic.
L300[13:31:25] <Althego> but what can you do?
L301[13:31:26] * Scolar_Visari notes this is a serious problem in regards to people stealing food in work break rooms across the planet.
L302[13:31:36] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: I dunno, cameras or something. No booby trapping, though.
L303[13:31:44] <Gasher> you just have to find out some hazardous yet legal stuff which could be dangerous if mishandled
L304[13:31:47] <Althego> you cant even protect yourself in your own house? kind of typical hungarian laws
L305[13:31:55] <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xl_inefbHE&t=0s
L306[13:31:55] <kmath> YouTube - What's the Most Bitter Chemical?
L307[13:32:00] <Gasher> Althego, it's not just yours lol
L308[13:32:20] <Gasher> you are not protecting anything, you try to injure the attacker - that's the difference
L309[13:32:27] <Althego> until a few years ago you were not even permitted to you any force to protect yourself, just proportional to the threat
L310[13:32:35] <Althego> *to use
L311[13:32:36] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: Booby trapping isn't typically seen as being protective, particularly since most (like my questionable punji stick fence and land mind garden gnomes) are indiscriminte.
L312[13:32:38] <Gasher> Althego, lol how familiar
L313[13:33:02] <Gasher> like, whoever is the least injuried is the attacker lol
L314[13:33:19] <Scolar_Visari> However, I have successfully deterred carolers from despoiling my front yard. Though the electrified barbed wire fence was likely sufficient.
L315[13:33:24] <Gasher> so your chosen sport should be running
L316[13:33:35] <Althego> while in the usa, if peopple go in to your house, you can just kill them. my favourite is the old guy who took a sword and slashed the robbers, they survived, but couldnt even get away in their car because of the blood loss
L317[13:33:55] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: That's . . . Not really true. The laws vary from state to state.
L318[13:33:59] <Gasher> Althego, yeah just invite people you don't like as guests
L319[13:34:11] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher: Let the Right One Ine?
L320[13:34:15] <Gasher> LOL
L321[13:34:28] <Eddi|zuHause> <Althego> while in the usa, if peopple go in to your house, you can just kill them. <-- i wouldn't want to live in that area...
L322[13:34:30] <Gasher> well in Althego's case there indeed might be vampires
L323[13:34:31] <Scolar_Visari> Trespassing isn't really a thing in vampire societies.
L324[13:35:10] <Scolar_Visari> Eddi: As I wrote, it differs from state to state.
L325[13:35:12] <Althego> anyway at least this part is now fixed in our laws
L326[13:35:17] <Eddi|zuHause> well, transylvania used to be in hungary :)
L327[13:35:26] <Althego> but still in case of the less dangerous things, like the thieves, you cant do anything
L328[13:36:24] <Gasher> Eddi|zuHause, yeah that's what i was referencing
L329[13:36:34] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: there's still laws to not put poisonous stuff in bottles labelled for drinking, even in your own home
L330[13:36:57] <Gasher> hm, idk how it's written in local news
L331[13:37:28] <Gasher> as for thieves, yeah - attacking is not the best tactics
L332[13:37:54] <Gasher> but there is such thing as civil detention, right?
L333[13:37:59] <JVFoxy> was at friend's last night, happened across the glitter bomb video... yeesh
L334[13:38:06] <Scolar_Visari> Some municipalities maintain a duty to retreat.
L335[13:39:12] * Scolar_Visari grumbles something about being a hero and assuming everything happens like an action movie.
L336[13:39:47] <Gasher> just get rid of the bodies, no one would miss those :)
L337[13:40:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i remember some years back there was a crime show called something like "how would you decide?" where they presented a case where a fuel station keeper heard of some robberies in the area, bought a (illegal) gun, and when the robber came to his station, he shot him
L338[13:41:28] <Althego> live by the sword die by the swordú
L339[13:41:31] <Scolar_Visari> It's typically the policy of convenience store franchises (among others) to have their employees comply with the demands of robbers rather than risk themselves or customers getting shot.
L340[13:41:39] <Eddi|zuHause> the keeper had to face two court cases, the case for buying the gun he was found guilty, the case of hurting the robber he was found not guilty (self defense), even though using a gun was probably excessive
L341[13:42:15] <Eddi|zuHause> the self-defense law is usually applied rather wide
L342[13:42:21] <Althego> unless you are a hunter you probably wouldnt get a gun here anyway, and even that has to be locked normally
L343[13:42:22] * Scolar_Visari also notes something about armed robbers typically having the drop on others, making sudden movements to withdraw a concealed firearm dangerous for the victims.
L344[13:43:50] <Scolar_Visari> Hence: Keep yer' hands where I can see em.
L345[13:44:37] <Scolar_Visari> Though, if there's anything Mafia II has tought me, it's that you can hide various World War II weapons on your person with little issue.
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L347[13:48:09] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . Anno 1404?
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L349[14:17:34] <Althego> yay pbs spacetime
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L354[14:26:15] <Althego> hmmm https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/180700-kerbal-space-program-16-%E2%80%9Cto-vee-or-not-to-vee%E2%80%9D-is-now-available/
L355[14:28:00] <Althego> and there it is
L356[14:38:53] <Althego> anyway install tomorrow
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L379[17:41:09] <packbart> ooh, update. I right-click on the Mk2 Lander Can in the VAB and strange things happen. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspfoo.jpg
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L381[17:41:17] <packbart> I'll remove the mods and try again
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L383[17:42:13] * raptop guesses that the mod is interacting badly with the storage bays?
L384[17:49:22] <packbart> looks like it. no problem without mods, so not a bug in the update :)
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L389[18:04:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm starting to hate steam... "this update scheduled for: in 10 hours"
L390[18:05:36] <packbart> yeah, I don't get it why it does that, either. Always have to click the "download now" button
L391[18:07:01] <Eddi|zuHause> i get it that they want to untangle some large bandwidth hits from big updates. but this always seems excessive
L392[18:07:20] <packbart> hmm. so, the weirdness happens if there's only ModuleManager 3.1.1 in GameData next to Squad*.
L393[18:07:34] <packbart> I had hoped some unimportant mod would have been the cause
L394[18:07:37] <Eddi|zuHause> it misses a function like "if update<100MB, max delay=1h"
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L398[18:28:06] <darsie> They could use bittorrent.
L399[18:30:50] <KrazyKrl> They already use a CDN for steam. using bittorrent doesn't make sense, especially when you deploy incremental patches.
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L405[18:54:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see how bittorrent would work there. you would need to ask people to open their ports and give away their bandwidth
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L407[19:01:24] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Have you ever wondered if the Doom Marine and B. J. Blazkowicz are the same person?
L408[19:01:47] <Eddi|zuHause> i can, with all honesty, say "no"
L409[19:02:12] <Eddi|zuHause> as i have never ever wondered anything at all about these two persons
L410[19:03:21] <Scolar_Visari> I think the latter was kept in suspended animation for use against future threats to humanity.
L411[19:08:04] * Scolar_Visari ponders if the writing on the Doom Marine's sarcophagus simply said: Break in case of daemonic incursion.
L412[19:08:34] <KrazyKrl> Nope... it just says "plz no"
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L414[19:11:25] * UmbralRaptop thought it was canonical that the Doom 1/2 marine was Keen's son or grandson, and Keen was B J Blaskowicz's grandson.
L415[19:11:53] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: Canon, shmanon.
L416[19:12:39] <Scolar_Visari> I imagine Doom canon between titles is right up there with Duke Nukem canon.
L417[19:14:01] <UmbralRaptop> Confusingly, there's supposed to be continuity between 1, 2, 3D, and 4ever
L418[19:15:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never wondered anything about that either
L419[19:16:12] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: The only way I could see that even being possible is if they all took place in parallel universes
L420[19:16:24] <UmbralRaptop> Like, DN3D starts about 5 minutes after the end of 2. O_o
L421[19:17:05] <Scolar_Visari> I mean, in what universe can a person walk and kick people with both their legs at the same time?
L422[19:20:06] * Scolar_Visari ponders if the developers of 4ever actually stopped to think if the world really needed another Duke Nukem to begin with.
L423[19:21:34] <packbart> they just wanted to end the joke
L424[19:22:11] <Scolar_Visari> Ironic. They became the joke.
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