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L7[01:52:55] <Fluburtur> my room is cold so
i tunred on the 3d printer to heat it up
L8[01:54:23] <Deddly> Print yourself a
fireplace
L9[02:05:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i somehow can't
easily imagine a material that i would describe as both
"fireproof" and "3d-printable"
L10[02:09:18] <Gasher[work]> like, metal
powder?
L11[02:10:39] <Rolf> abestos pla
L12[02:11:15] <Fluburtur> you can probably
make some plastics to release a bunch of co2 when they heat up too
much, that would make them self extinguish
L13[02:11:19] <Eddi|zuHause> Gasher[work]:
"metal powder" is probably not fireproof
L14[02:11:39] <Rolf> it'll likely harden to
just metal while on fire, then fire stops
L15[02:11:58] <Eddi|zuHause> Gasher[work]:
i imagine that worse than steel wool
L16[02:12:20] <Fluburtur> metal powder used
for laser 3d printing is quite thin
L17[02:15:07] <Gasher[work]> well, after
printing it is
L18[02:15:15] <Deddly> SpaceX 3D-prints the
escape engines in the Dragon II. Pretty sure they are
fireproof
L20[02:24:21] <Gasher[work]> i saw
synthered steel parts and they looked solid
L21[02:24:29] <Gasher[work]> looked and
felt when cutting
L22[02:26:01] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, second
issue: you don't usually want your fireplace made of steel, because
it doesn't store heat very well when the fire runs out
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L24[02:33:49] <Gasher[work]> i remember
reading about 3d printer which uses clay which then could be
fired
L25[02:34:03] <Rolf> yeah saw video of
it
L26[02:34:08] <Rolf> pretty cool but same
time e
L28[02:41:02] <Althego> there are plans to
build housing with 3d printer on the moon
L29[02:41:11] <Althego> from a glue and the
regolith
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L31[02:57:16] <Eddi|zuHause> if you want to
call the current state of that a "plan"...
L32[02:57:51] <Eddi|zuHause> same way as
there is a "plan" to get colonists on mars, i guess
L33[02:57:55] <Althego> ok, fantasies
L34[03:00:19] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, youtube,
why would you think i want to click on a video titled "este
video es muy importante"?
L35[03:00:29] <Althego> hehe
L36[03:00:34] <Althego> because it is very
important?
L37[03:01:30] <Eddi|zuHause> it's like
youtube has no idea about what language a video is in
L38[03:02:38] <Eddi|zuHause> it's the same
problem with the "trending" page, where every 3rd video
is in turkish, just because there's a sizable turkish minority in
your country...
L39[03:02:48] <Althego> hehe
L40[03:03:44] <Eddi|zuHause> but there's no
way to tell youtube "ok, never ever show me a video with the
word "Bölüm" in the title
L41[03:03:53] <Althego> we were annexed by
the turkish for around 200 years. i guess they have a different
method for your country
L42[03:04:10] <Althego> what is a
bölüm?
L43[03:04:24] <Eddi|zuHause> no idea,
probably something like "episode"?
L45[03:04:39] <kmath> YouTube - Turns out
we have a very soggy Solar System - Orbit 11.49
L46[03:04:51] <Eddi|zuHause> it's in most
of those video titles
L47[03:04:57] <Eddi|zuHause> usually with a
number before it
L48[03:05:06] <Althego> episode maybe
L49[03:05:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't seen
antman
L50[03:06:50] <Eddi|zuHause> these people
are immediately annoying me, i'll not watch that
L52[03:06:53] <kmath> YouTube - Ant-Man
Funny Scene -Michael Pena
L53[03:07:28] <Althego> no, apparently
not
L54[03:07:50] <Eddi|zuHause> there's stan
lee in there
L55[03:08:06] <Althego> i love the two
scenes where the mexican guy narrates the story
L56[03:08:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not
understanding anything
L57[03:08:55] <Althego> doesnt matter. the
funny thing is, that the mexican guy narrates what happened with
the peoplel, and they talk in sync with his voice
L58[03:09:18] <Eddi|zuHause> that's
probably backwards :p
L59[03:09:50] <Eddi|zuHause> also, that's
how every american movie gets translated into german.
L60[03:10:21] <Althego> anyway one is jade
kim, the other is anna akana
L61[03:10:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i've heard of
anna akana before
L63[03:11:04] <kmath> YouTube - Luis
Storytelling About Tip | Ant-Man (2015) Movie Clip
L64[03:12:00] <Eddi|zuHause> i think from
one of those youtube red series
L66[03:13:38] <kmath> YouTube - Ant Man and
the Wasp - Luis tells his story
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L76[03:56:58] <Althego> <drspider> so
i chose "amazon one day delivery"
L77[03:56:58] <Althego> <drspider>
they'll deliver it one day
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L79[04:01:11] <Deddly> Clever marketing,
that
L80[04:01:32] <Rolf> they will take a week
tp pack it
L81[04:01:39] <Rolf> no worries package
will ship in a day
L82[04:02:09] <Deddly> When it is in
stock*
L83[04:02:24] <JVFoxy> the olden days... 6
to 8 weeks to ship...
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L85[04:04:48] <Deddly> It was better that
way. By the time it arrives you forgot what you ordered, so you can
order surprise gifts for yourself.
L86[04:05:57] <JVFoxy> always wondered why
it used to take so long... mail order out.. ok so thats what.. week
at worst?
L87[04:06:36] <JVFoxy> what they have to
do, order parts, wait for those to show up. Then put things
together, mail it out to you?
L88[04:09:19] <Deddly> There are companies
that have zero stock themselves and they have to wait for different
suppliers to provide all of the various items you order
L89[04:10:33] <Eddi|zuHause> it heavily
depends on what you order
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L93[04:14:38] <JVFoxy> now-a-days, I
believe such long waits are thing of the past...
L94[04:15:13] <Eddi|zuHause> like i once
ordered computer parts from some random online shop, which will
have been around midnight-ish, they packaged it that morning, and
it arrived in my location that evening
L95[04:15:48] <Deddly> It's still not that
unusual for ordering items from abroad, especially from Asia
L96[04:16:02] <Deddly> (in my
experience)
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L98[04:16:31] <JVFoxy> ya.. I ordered a
radio thing for the PC.. order went out the one morning. Thing
showed up at the door the day after or second day. warehouse just
happened to be across the river
L99[04:16:49] <Eddi|zuHause> there's more
specialized stuff, like SCADA devices that have ordering times in
the range of a few weeks
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L101[04:17:50] <Eddi|zuHause> because
either they are manufactured when you give out the order, because
there's some customisation options, or they have such huge backlogs
to work through
L102[04:18:09] <Eddi|zuHause> possibly a
mixture
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L110[04:47:22] <Gasher[work]> lol got
linked this
L111[04:48:09] <Rolf> lol
L112[04:49:34] <JVFoxy> title though...
'russian astronauts'... don't ya mean cosmonauts?
L113[04:50:13] <Deddly> I clicked the
kmath link, so I missed the title.
L114[04:50:40] <JVFoxy> its just: Russian
astronauts returning from the ISS
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L116[04:52:01] <Deddly> I love it how
people in the comments are picking on the fact that it's a Dragon
capsule and are completely ignoring the fact that the IVA isn't
consistent ;)
L117[04:52:52] <JVFoxy> suppose to be a
joke...
L118[04:53:08] <JVFoxy> I've seen KSP mods
with wrong IVAs as well
L119[04:53:17] <Deddly> Well, in fairness,
so was that comment of mine about the IVA
L120[04:55:44] <JVFoxy> either way..
pretty frick'n bumpy ride
L121[04:56:45] <Eddi|zuHause> wait, so
that is not actual footage from the incident? man :p
L122[04:56:56] <Althego> it is a dragon v2
testing
L123[04:57:01] <Althego> nobody has ever
flown in one
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L125[04:57:46] <Deddly> What Althego
said
L126[04:59:31] <JVFoxy> may as well have
been the failed flight /up/ to the ISS.. when that booster smacked
the core stage
L127[04:59:50] <JVFoxy> looked nearly as
bumpy..
L128[05:00:33] <Eddi|zuHause> well, i was
assuming that's what they were meaning to refer to
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L130[05:02:12] <Althego> yes that must
have been one rollercoaster ride
L131[05:02:29] <Althego> at least based on
the few frames when the video feed cut out
L132[05:04:06] <Deddly> Were there even
any Russians on that flight?
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L139[05:09:00] <Eddi|zuHause> i think it
was an american and a russian
L140[05:09:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i think i
heard somewhere that the russian was meant to do the knife thingie
with the soyus capsule that the other guy just did
L141[05:10:01] <Deddly> Oh yeah, that's
true
L142[05:10:07] <Deddly> Scott Manley
mentioned that
L143[05:10:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know
how accurate his sources are for this
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L146[05:11:53] <Eddi|zuHause> have the
russians ever sent a soyus capsule without a russian on
board?
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L149[05:13:50] <Althego> yes, was one
russian veteran and an american newbie
L150[05:13:58] <Althego> and the russian
trained for the soytuz peeling
L151[05:14:09] <Althego> probably scott
mentioned it
L153[05:22:05] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what
i thought
L154[05:22:21] <Althego> how long until
the soyuz is retired?
L155[05:22:28] <Althego> the ms was the
last upgrade isnt it
L156[05:22:37] <Althego> i mean last as in
no next one
L157[05:22:49] <Althego> but it is such a
successful ship
L158[05:23:56] <Gasher[work]> well there
was an accident when it landed wihtout anyone alive inside...
L159[05:24:05] <Althego> one
L160[05:24:14] <Althego> and the only case
when people died in space
L161[05:24:30] <Eddi|zuHause> when all the
private companies have such an edge on manned spaceflight that the
russians are going "wait, so incremental changes won't cut it,
we have to scrap this and redesign from scratch"
L162[05:24:55] <Althego> the price is what
matters for a private business
L163[05:24:56] <Gasher[work]> aha, i don't
believe that
L164[05:25:09] <JVFoxy> the little cabin
on the end... he said they don't use it quite as much as they used
to...
L165[05:25:09] <Althego> so 20 million
dollar per seaat, maybe spacex can do it for half the price?
L166[05:25:24] <Gasher[work]> like, with
all that i heard of that it'd be a giant failure if that redesign
happens
L167[05:26:04] <Eddi|zuHause>
Gasher[work]: it'll be the netscape 6 of spaceflight
L168[05:26:14] <Gasher[work]> whatever
that is
L169[05:26:27] <Althego> hehe
L170[05:26:37] <Althego> or the
edge?
L171[05:26:44] <Althego> because edge is
dying officialy
L172[05:26:49] <Eddi|zuHause>
Gasher[work]: there's a rather famous essay about "how to not
do software development" about netscape 6
L173[05:27:12] <Gasher[work]> i know the
name - some old internet browser
L174[05:27:23] <Gasher[work]> like, i saw
it mentioned in a manual
L175[05:27:42] <Gasher[work]> anyway, i
think russia will fail to design such a ship
L176[05:27:51] <Gasher[work]> not in the
current state of the industry
L177[05:27:58] <Althego> they are failing
with the ankara rocket too
L178[05:28:01] <Althego> or what was
it
L179[05:28:04] <Eddi|zuHause>
Gasher[work]: TL;DR: netscape 4 was a successful browser, they
started netscape 6 developing from scratch, which meant doing all
the mistakes again, and it was so delayed that they lost the
"first browser war" to internet explorer
L180[05:28:19] <Althego> and just as nasa
is failing with orion. anything they do, spacex can do a lot
cheaper
L181[05:30:05] <Eddi|zuHause> it took
mozilla ages to pick up the pieces of that desaster and launch
firefox into a real alternative as a browser again
L182[05:30:26] <Althego> and when it was
finally gaining traction google arrived
L183[05:30:35] <Althego> and it seems they
are winning completely
L184[05:30:49] <Gasher[work]> i'd say it
seems that they are on the decline
L185[05:30:59] <Althego> i mean google is
winning
L186[05:31:08] <Althego> and everything
else losing
L187[05:32:30] <Eddi|zuHause> there seem
to be some pretty significant regional differences on that
L188[05:33:01] <Deddly> Natescape ->
Firefox. Just saying.
L189[05:33:06] <Deddly> Netscape*
L190[05:33:17] <Deddly> No it wasn't
L191[05:33:23] <Deddly> I'm getting mixed
up
L192[05:33:45] <Eddi|zuHause> it pretty
much is, but with some windy roads inbetween
L193[05:33:49] <Deddly> yes it was.... I
wasn't getting mixed up
L194[05:34:33] <Deddly> I also somehow
managed to miss that entire conversation before typing that. Please
ignore me
L195[05:34:42] <Eddi|zuHause> basically,
the whole netscape team was laid off, and they decided they were
going to continue on their own
L196[05:34:45] <Althego> test alliance
please ignore
L197[05:35:20] <Deddly> <Althego>
and the only case when people died in space <-- did they die IN
SPCAE, though?
L198[05:35:31] <Althego> i think it was
during rentry
L199[05:35:46] <Althego> and because of a
short a valve opened that let out all air in the cabin
L200[05:36:00] <Althego> when the
separation of the reentry module happened
L201[05:36:30] <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds
very in-space-y
L203[05:38:36] <Eddi|zuHause> more
in-space-y than exploading on lauch or failing parachute on
landing
L204[05:39:20] <Gasher[work]> well, over
100km
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L208[06:05:41] <Althego> forgets one
thing. old code grows in evolutionary way. it does the function
required, but becomes an entangled mess. and if you dont throw it
out after a while, you are just collecting technical debt
L209[06:07:33] <Eddi|zuHause> "if you
dont throw it out after a while, you are just collecting technical
debt" <-- that's exactly what it's complaining about, that
"throwing out" doesn't solve the problem of technical
debt
L210[06:08:22] <Eddi|zuHause> you solve
techncal debt by refactoring and stuff
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L212[06:32:16] <Althego> hehe, no
L213[06:32:46] <Althego> trust me, i
worked with codes 4 decades old
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L215[06:42:20] <Eddi|zuHause> even, or
especially, when the code is 4 decades old (and still runs anyway),
you don't just "throw it out" and write new code, you
need to carefully consider what's in the code and rewrite it
accordingly
L216[06:46:09] <Althego> that is a fancy
way of saying replacing
L217[06:47:17] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but
he's saying that you're better off replacing smaller parts
L218[06:47:28] <Gasher[work]> yeah, throw
it out with the old junk which is running it
L219[06:47:32] <Eddi|zuHause> instead of
ripping it all up
L220[06:48:29] <Eddi|zuHause> there've
been companies that went bust because they decided they need a
brand new SAP installation
L221[06:48:42] <Eddi|zuHause> and then
couldn't do any business at all for like a year
L222[06:48:56] <Gasher[work]> i have heard
a story about replacing old code together with hardware that ran it
- the thing is, they had to add the exact mass model as the old
hardware was to retain the device's balance...
L223[06:49:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i've heard
that about a gun in a plane which was then decided to have no
gun
L224[06:50:03] <Eddi|zuHause> so they had
to put a concrete block in there, beacuse the weight had to be
balanced
L225[06:50:23] <Gasher[work]> yeah,
something like that
L226[06:50:47] <Eddi|zuHause> but that's a
different kind of problem
L227[06:51:16] <Gasher[work]> but hey,
they upgraded the system by replacing old stuff in my case!
L228[06:51:20] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what
happens when you make design decisions at a point when you're not
supposed to make design decisions anymore
L229[06:51:50] <Eddi|zuHause> or when you
made a design decision too early
L230[06:51:54] <Gasher[work]> things
happen - i guess they could not find the manufactures of that
hardware nowadays
L231[06:52:54] <Gasher[work]> lol
L232[06:52:56] <Gasher[work]> makes me
think
L233[06:54:28] <Gasher[work]> when
environmental change will make some devices like internal
combustion engines or wind turbines or such obsolete - like, when
air composition will make it impossible to run older engines or
wind conditions will make the modern wind turbines useless?
L235[06:55:15] <kmath> YouTube -
布袋寅泰 TOMOYASU HOTEI (BATTLE WITHOUT HONOR OR HUMANITY)
L236[06:55:30] <Eddi|zuHause> how do you
imagine a wind turbine becomes useless?
L237[06:55:39] <Althego> too fast
winds
L238[06:55:48] <Althego> or too slow
L239[06:55:58] <Althego> looks
interesting
L240[06:55:59] <Eddi|zuHause> Fluburtur: i
had that about 10 years ago, when kill bill was kinda new :p
L241[06:56:26] <Althego> also internal
combustion engines will be usable long after humans died out
:)
L242[06:56:36] <Althego> they dont care
about carbon dioxide levels
L243[06:57:00] <Althego> and with
compressors can run on little oxygen
L244[06:57:02] <Fluburtur> my friend plays
guitar very well so I could play that with him
L245[06:57:48] <Gasher[work]>
Eddi|zuHause, well if winds would become stronger
L246[06:58:09] <Eddi|zuHause> funny thing,
back in the late 90s i was taking part in an
environment/sustainable development workshop, and they talked about
wind energy and that for germany, except at the coast, you don't
have economically usable wind speeds, and about 5 years later
suddenly the wind turbines started popping up EVERYWHERE
L247[06:58:36] <Gasher[work]>
Eddi|zuHause, i was impressed by seeing those everywhere
L248[06:58:40] <Gasher[work]> in
germany
L249[06:58:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
imagine the wind speeds changed much in those 5 years
L250[06:59:46] <Fluburtur> I know a town
where peoples refused to have wind turbine installed int he nearby
area
L251[06:59:54] <Fluburtur> it is mountain
so plenty of wind there
L252[07:00:04] <Fluburtur> they act like
it is a danger to healt or something
L253[07:00:09] <Eddi|zuHause> however,
they will run into a problem soon because the government support
for the wind turbines will run out, so they have to become
economical on their own. which they possibly won't
L254[07:00:21] <Fluburtur> guess they
prefer ugly transmission line towers over nice sleek wind
tubrines
L255[07:00:42] <Eddi|zuHause> well, they
are pretty noisy if you're close enough
L256[07:00:50] <Gasher[work]> i have
nothing against power lines
L257[07:00:57] <Eddi|zuHause> and
alledgedly they're a hazard to birds
L258[07:01:18] <Gasher[work]> hm
L259[07:01:19] <Eddi|zuHause> and new
power lines get an equal amount of resistance from locals
L260[07:01:27] <Gasher[work]> is ouragan a
french word?
L261[07:01:32] <Fluburtur> this place is a
void, they could put 100 wind turbines and you could walk hours
between two
L262[07:01:34] <Eddi|zuHause> the
technical term is "NIMBY"
L263[07:02:00] <Deddly> All the best wind
turbines are offshore, anyway
L264[07:02:05] <Eddi|zuHause> (Not In My
BackYard)
L265[07:02:32] <Eddi|zuHause> Deddly:
except when they're forgetting that there are metal-eating crabs in
the water
L266[07:02:54] <Gasher[work]> more like
metal-eating salts
L267[07:03:05] <Fluburtur> make them with
fiberglass then
L268[07:03:21] <Eddi|zuHause> (and they
apparently didn't talk to the oil drilling people, who knew about
the problem for decades)
L269[07:03:46] <Gasher[work]> lol
L270[07:03:47] <Deddly> Never came across
that issue
L271[07:04:08] <Gasher[work]> maybe it's
the hostility from fossil fuel industry
L272[07:04:08] <Fluburtur> afraid of oil
lobbies unleashing hell on them?
L273[07:04:09] <Eddi|zuHause> Deddly:
apparently that is an issue in the north sea
L274[07:04:32] <Deddly> Do you have a
source for that?
L275[07:04:34] <Gasher[work]> sounds like
a lie
L276[07:05:04] <Deddly> It does sound very
odd. People have been making metal ships for decades
L277[07:05:20] <Gasher[work]> or rather,
might be a humorous term to refer to some effect made by marine
life to metal structures
L278[07:07:26] <Gasher[work]> Deddly, btw
recently i learned about special toxic paints used for ship hulls
to deter barnacles and such
L279[07:08:04] <Deddly> Yes,
antifouling
L280[07:08:33] <Deddly> But if you don't
use antifouling, your ship will not get eaten by crabs
L281[07:08:57] <Gasher[work]> heh
L282[07:09:39] <Gasher[work]> i mean,
learned the way how it works - just by killing all of that stuff
which tries to grab onto the hull by its toxicity
L283[07:10:44] <Deddly> It is pretty nasty
stuff
L284[07:10:52] <Deddly> There are
alternatives, though
L285[07:10:52] <Gasher[work]> yeah,
yeah
L286[07:11:20] <Gasher[work]> alternatives
like?
L287[07:11:38] <Gasher[work]> maybe using
alloys which are toxic already? :D
L288[07:11:49] <Althego> ship immune
system!
L289[07:12:04] <Gasher[work]> Althego,
it's called crew
L290[07:12:09] <Althego> hehe
L291[07:13:21] <Deddly> I haven't looked
into it for a long time, Gasher[work]. But as I recall, there isn't
anything quite as effective as proper toxic maint
L292[07:13:24] <Deddly> paint*
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L295[07:16:28] <Deddly> I think there was
someone looking into developing a surface that barnacles are unable
to grip onto
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L298[07:18:38] <Eddi|zuHause> and that
eats through the steel in the concrete foundations
L299[07:19:22] <Althego> havent heard
anything about dream chaser. is the mini shuttle still
around?
L300[07:19:44] <Guest44210> Anybody know
if there's ever going to be a worthwhile update for console
version, we seem to have been forgotten
L301[07:20:07] <Eddi|zuHause> poor
you.
L302[07:20:10] <Deddly> Thanks for digging
that up, Eddi|zuHause.
L303[07:20:14] <Deddly> Hi
Guest44210
L304[07:20:20] <Althego> supposedly there
will be one
L305[07:20:28] <Deddly> Guest44210, yes
they are working on a new one
L306[07:20:31] <Althego> it was mentioned
in the latest dev whatever you call it lately
L307[07:20:41] <Deddly> Guest44210, I'll
get the reference for you, one moment
L308[07:21:39] <Guest44210> Awesome guys
thanks
L310[07:22:02] <Deddly> Guest44210, scroll
down to "KSP Enhanced Edition"
L311[07:22:23] <Guest44210> Thank you
:)
L312[07:22:29] <Deddly> You're welcome
:)
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L314[07:23:27] <Deddly> How nice. Someone
who comes in, asks a question, waits a moment, and takes the time
to say thank you before leaving :)
L315[07:23:34] <Althego> hehe
L316[07:24:07] <Eddi|zuHause> you should
hold onto this precious moment, because it'll be a long time until
it happens again
L317[07:24:27] <Althego> so there is still
some development on dream chaser
L318[07:24:35] <Althego> but not much has
happened publicly
L319[07:24:57] <Eddi|zuHause> is that the
space shuttle-ish thing?
L320[07:25:01] <Deddly> I've forgotten
what Dreamchaser even was, it's been that long since I read about
it
L321[07:25:02] <Althego> yes
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L323[07:27:38] <Deddly> So what's the
news, Althego?
L324[07:27:42] <Althego> nothing
L325[07:27:51] <Althego> nasa crs2 not
sooner than 2019
L326[07:28:08] <Althego> since it is
launched by a rocket they dont need to develop that
L327[07:28:27] <Althego> so i guess they
just need to focus on the spaceship itself
L328[07:31:42] <Eddi|zuHause> so the
console port doesn't seem to share much code with the PC
version?
L329[07:31:55] <Althego> developed
separately
L330[07:32:05] <Althego> but it still runs
the same engine
L331[07:32:14] <Althego> and that means at
least some shared assets
L332[07:32:53] <Eddi|zuHause>
"engine" as in "unity"?
L333[07:33:08] <Althego> i think so
L334[07:33:30] <Eddi|zuHause> but then
they switched unity engine versions on the PC?
L335[07:34:25] <Deddly> Yes, PC version is
on a different Unity version
L336[07:34:42] <Deddly> They needed to
update it in order to make Making History work
L337[07:37:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i could
imagine a dozen ways why that might block updating the port, but i
have no clue which one(s) actually applies
L338[07:38:44] <Deddly> The console
version will from now on diverge from the PC version. Parts of the
new content will be included, but not all
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L340[07:40:40] <Eddi|zuHause> well, the
"correct" way would have been that the console port would
have been in the same codebase as the main development version, and
that any changes would automatically apply (and be tested) on
both
L341[07:41:28] <Eddi|zuHause> (which would
inevitably have made the switch of unity versions and other
improvments harder)
L342[07:41:42] <Althego> probably not that
easy on consoles
L343[07:42:51] <Eddi|zuHause> but
cherry-picking the updates for the other version doesn't sound much
easier in the long run
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L345[07:44:08] <Fluburtur> to be honest,
the serie I watched the most is probably redneck brothers from
robbaz
L346[07:44:32] <Althego> that was like the
spanish inqusiotion
L347[07:46:34] <Deddly> NOBODY EXPECTS THE
SPANISH INQUISITION!
L348[07:51:50] <Fluburtur> I have so much
plastic scraps I wish I could recycle
L349[07:52:40] <Fluburtur> I dont think
filament extruders are cheap
L350[08:09:39] <sandbox> I don't know what
they were thinking with the Wii U version
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L353[08:13:18] <Fluburtur> I would rather
get a completed extruder
L354[08:13:24] <Fluburtur> that I don't
need to build completely
L355[08:23:38] <jeans> Fluburtur: when you
extrude it, the plastic loses VOCs and other things. Trying to
reuse it would make the filament pretty bad and difficult to get
good prints with.
L357[08:31:51] <darsie> ... for 10,000
years
L358[08:32:00] <Deddly> I can confirm that
it is, indeed, math.
L359[08:32:12] <darsie> thx :)
L360[08:32:20] <Deddly> You're welcome
;)
L361[08:53:10] <Althego> 10000 years is
not even that much
L362[08:55:08] <darsie> Interstellar
travel takes time ...
L363[08:55:24] <darsie> I guess 10,000
years should get us somewhere.
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L369[09:30:00] <Fluburtur> I feel like my
left eye stops working when I play trumpet
L370[09:30:10] <Althego> hehe,
resonates?
L371[09:30:14] <Fluburtur> maybe my brain
uses the left eye processing power for the trumpet
L372[09:30:20] <Althego> lol
L373[09:30:44] <hoglahoo> :D
L374[09:30:47] <Fluburtur> I dont think
the brain works like that
L375[09:30:53] <Althego> vision has its
own dedicated parts, however it uses memory to identify
things
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L377[09:31:17] <Fluburtur> but it could be
that I have to focus on the trumpet so my brain forgets about the
left eye
L378[09:31:48] <hoglahoo> but remembers
the right eye?
L379[09:31:49] <Althego> or you lck osygen
to process everything and if you are right eye dominant it would be
possible that the left eye goes first
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L381[09:32:09] <Fluburtur> I dont think I
lack oxygen
L382[09:32:21] <Althego> you are blowing
it oput
L383[09:32:22] <hoglahoo> this seems to
indicate the contrary <Fluburtur> I dont think
L384[09:32:39] <Fluburtur> I just think
the brain focuses more on the trumpet than what the eye is
doing
L385[09:33:01] <Althego> that would also
indicate right eye dominance
L386[09:33:03] <hoglahoo> how does that
address the specificity of the left eye
L387[09:33:04] <hoglahoo> oh
L388[09:33:29] <Althego> i know i dont use
my left eye much
L389[09:33:41] <hoglahoo> hm. I use mine
all the time
L390[09:34:38] <Fluburtur> I should grab
some pvc and wood and make someting to hold my trumpet ont he wall
actually
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L392[09:37:20] <Guest19239> hi
L393[09:37:23] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest19239
L394[09:37:23] <hoglahoo> hi
L395[09:37:25] <Mod9000> Hello,
hoglahoo
L396[09:37:31] <Althego> hehe
L397[09:37:32] <hoglahoo> Hello
Mod9000
L398[09:37:32] <Mod9000> How are
things?
L399[09:37:34] <Guest19239> When is the
next kerbal space program update?
L400[09:37:37] <hoglahoo> things are
sweel
L401[09:37:39] <Althego> at least it didnt
fail completely this time
L402[09:37:39] <hoglahoo> swell
L403[09:37:47] <Althego> unknown yet
L404[09:38:00] <hoglahoo> is that your
abotmination
L405[09:38:04] <Althego> but as it is a
minor update, i would say in a few months
L406[09:38:26] <Althego> mine, no , i hate
it every time it greets me instead of the person joining
L407[09:39:30] <hoglahoo> unsolicited
reply bots ought to be opt in :P
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L410[09:42:33] <Guest19239> hope they fix
the bugs in the next update
L411[09:42:37] <Althego> hehe
L412[09:42:43] <Althego> they fix some,
and make some
L414[09:43:20] <Guest19239> can you
downgrade? Will it screw up your save file? I want to downgrade
1.5.1 to 1.4.5 or something
L415[09:43:47] <darsie> Guest19239: I
guess it depends what parts your ships use.
L416[09:44:05] <Althego> i dint know about
steam, but you can get the previous main version if you bought it
from the ksp store
L417[09:44:20] <darsie> Steam allows
downgrades.
L418[09:44:30] <Guest19239> I dont use
steam
L419[09:44:56] <Guest19239> So If I
install 1.4.5 to a used 1.5.1 save file? Will it mess it up?
L420[09:45:00] <Guest19239> Or would I be
fine?
L421[09:45:17] <Althego> i wouldnt expect
the 1.5.1 saves to be compatible with 1.4.5
L422[09:45:37] <Althego> but because it is
a text file, you can hand edit it in the worst case
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L430[10:39:22] <suclearnub> Evening
L433[10:44:13] <Althego> hehe
L434[10:45:02] <suclearnub> long time no
see i guess
L435[10:45:09] <suclearnub> haven't been
here for... at least a year maybe
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L437[10:47:32] <Black_Eagle> hey how do i
invert the aerobrake action? i have active aerobrakes that improve
yaw but when i turn left it activates the right side (effectively
turning me right) and vice versa
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L439[10:48:02] <Althego> normally it is
automatically correct
L440[10:48:09] <Althego> unless you are
flying backwards
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L442[10:48:46] <Althego> and i dont know
of a way to invert it in stock
L443[10:49:00] <Althego> you can invert
activation of some control surfaces but not that
L444[10:49:05] <Black_Eagle> uh-oh.
L445[10:50:14] <Black_Eagle> it's a pod
racer style vehicle for the bradley whistance challenge but it
really can't turn unless the right engine brakes when i turn
right
L446[10:50:48] <Black_Eagle> i know you
know which challenge i'm referring to because you replied to me on
youtube :P
L447[10:51:06] <Althego> that may be
flying backwards in a sense. if the airbrakes are in front of the
center of mass
L448[10:51:57] <Althego> lol i never left
any comment on youtube, i dont even log in
L449[10:53:33] <Althego> so it may break
the image of the craft, but the solution is probably to mmove tham
behind the ocm
L450[10:53:35] <Althego> com
L451[10:53:36] <Black_Eagle> reddit,
then?
L452[10:53:41] <Althego> dont use
reddit
L453[10:53:51] <Althego> must be somebody
else
L454[10:54:02] <suclearnub> Kosmonaut is
still around! OMG!
L455[10:54:12] <Black_Eagle> oh. yes :D it
was Fluburtur
L456[10:54:19] <Black_Eagle> SORRY
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L519[20:46:48] <Rokker> starting tomorrow
morning there be 5 launches in a 24 hour period
L520[20:46:54] <Rokker> or there are 5
planned
L521[21:00:31] <Alanonzander>
source?
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