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L2[00:01:41] <marginaleye> does anyone know what typically causes the game to crash when going from the VAB to the launch pad?
L3[00:02:37] <Althego> if anybody knew it wouldnt happen :)
L4[00:03:15] <marginaleye> good point ~shrugs~
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L7[01:11:13] <Althego> oh, more deck pics from insight
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L9[02:07:06] <Fluburtur> hell yeah i’m a catholic i’ve been addicted to cats my whole life
L10[02:14:23] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/f5cc365f6acbdceb76b6169a5a587aec/tumblr_pjc4m4Pkqn1wrt8hqo1_500.jpg
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L25[04:52:30] <Fluburtur> best feature for a pcb design software https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/520553137430331392/green.jpg
L26[04:54:14] <Althego> logo?
L27[04:55:33] <Fluburtur> it was probably meant to be used for that but now I just import random images to see what ti does
L28[05:18:24] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/kSjfBmkl5-I
L29[05:18:25] <kmath> YouTube - Floating SpaceX CRS-16 Falcon 9 Recovery Ops 4K VIDEO!
L30[05:18:33] <Fluburtur> samn, the small boats can fit in the interstage
L31[05:18:36] <Fluburtur> damn*
L32[05:22:06] <Mat2ch> well, it has to carry a capsule with 7 people inside...
L33[05:22:32] <Mat2ch> (I don't think that they will ever have 7 people inside, but who knows? Short term commercial missions maybe)
L34[05:22:36] <Althego> i linked this 6 hors ago :)
L35[05:22:45] <Mat2ch> yes
L36[05:23:04] <Mat2ch> and I hate the fact that you have to turn the speed to 2x to get rid of the sound artifacts :P
L37[05:23:28] <Althego> i just turned down the volume :)
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L39[05:55:59] <Fluburtur> the videos of this guy start like he's about to rap them but it is actually very interesting
L40[05:56:00] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKOvOaJv4GK-oDqx-sj7VVg/videos?disable_polymer=1
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L42[06:04:38] <Althego> too clickbaity
L43[06:04:49] <darsie> .
L44[06:04:54] <Fluburtur> yeah
L45[06:04:59] <Fluburtur> but it is quite good
L46[06:05:03] <Fluburtur> apparently the dude is a doctor
L47[06:05:24] <Althego> i'm a doctor, not a clickbaiter, jim
L48[06:14:59] <Althego> heh i didnt know there was a new macgyver series. the 80s is over, and they are not coming back
L49[06:20:55] <Althego> damn these chinese, a rocket goin to the moon and no stream
L50[06:22:43] <Eddi|zuHause> most of the 80s happened in the 90s anyway
L51[06:22:48] <Althego> hehe
L52[06:22:56] <Althego> yes i watched macgyver in the 90s
L53[06:23:01] <Althego> in german
L54[06:23:14] <Althego> just as with next generation
L55[06:30:32] <Althego> i havent played prototype for 3 years
L56[06:30:42] <Althego> i want to play it so bad i can taste it
L57[06:30:58] <Althego> i have to get the old pc working
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L61[06:52:11] <Fluburtur> "A Toddler Played With His Cat. This Is What Happened To His Brain."
L62[06:52:17] <Althego> lol
L63[06:52:17] <Fluburtur> what thats me every single day
L64[06:52:31] <Althego> the brain of the the cat or of the child?
L65[06:54:41] <Althego> video recommendation: 20000 thanos vs 20000 chuck norris
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L70[08:17:31] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/520604752719904778/DSC_0263.JPG
L71[08:17:58] <Althego> i, for one, welcome our new ai overlords
L72[08:18:26] <Althego> at least it looks like one
L73[08:18:45] <Fluburtur> it is the back end of a nikon 1 lens
L74[08:19:20] <Fluburtur> I decided to finally work ont he tilt shift mount
L75[08:19:26] <Fluburtur> well, only tilt for now
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L84[10:15:28] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/3a7ab0f42d402028710562f6339f3f3b/tumblr_pijipxjh2P1tjah43_540.png
L85[10:15:41] <Althego> hehe
L86[10:20:11] <Fluburtur> also, my prototype lens mount worked
L87[10:20:21] <Fluburtur> so I will get to work on the tilt mount
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L98[11:00:06] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGLTgt0EEqc
L99[11:00:06] <kmath> YouTube - The Outer Worlds – Official Announcement Trailer
L100[11:00:09] <Althego> hmm, hehe
L101[11:00:36] <Althego> a space game that has a fallout feeling
L102[11:51:46] <Althego> something going on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2otHin-DESg
L103[11:51:47] <kmath> YouTube - NASA’s InSight “Hears” the Sound of Mars (media telecon + visuals)
L104[11:55:59] <Mat2ch> Althego: what annoys me the most is that it's based on the Unreal Engine 4, but will never see a Linux version :O
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L106[11:57:48] <Althego> hehe they use the undeployed seismometer as wind measuring device
L107[11:58:29] <flub2> scientist engineers are very inventive peoples
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L116[12:10:53] <Althego> meanwhile scott
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L120[12:37:50] <JVFoxy> I see curiousmarc still do'n videos of work on the AGC... seems to be working still, though they have a defective memory module. :(
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L122[12:41:46] <Althego> there was some logic analyzer what is the processor doing
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L126[12:52:00] <JVFoxy> ya just got done watching.. basically just recapping what they went over in the previous video
L127[13:04:28] <Althego> doesnt it bother anybody else that the new capsule and the old small parachute dont have the same angle?
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L130[14:02:09] <Althego> wow, electron in a week?
L131[14:02:12] <Althego> i didnt even notice
L132[14:02:37] <Althego> secretive chinese and their chang'e...
L133[14:02:47] <Althego> they could have shown at least a picture
L134[14:04:26] <Althego> oh there is something https://twitter.com/search?q=chang%27e+4
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L145[16:20:09] <darsie> So I did these cheap thrill rides where tourists could go on EVA from a command seat with a chute underneath: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot84.png . Today I did a land landing ... http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot109.png
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L150[16:47:27] <sandbox> we need to get to Mars
L151[16:48:06] <raptop> So, we have a just landed mission that did some deployment ops the other day...
L152[16:51:36] <darsie> You need to look at my screenshots.
L153[16:53:43] * raptop side-eyes that NASA Watch comment about how we haven't done any Moon or Mars missions since certain declarations by Bush I in 1990.
L154[16:53:56] <flub2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/520734639308931082/tumblr_pj9dd05ZxD1r539hzo1_500.png
L155[16:54:31] <darsie> :)
L156[16:54:38] <raptop> We've had what, 6 lunar missions, and 13 martian?
L157[16:55:03] <raptop> flub2: a very athletic truck
L158[16:55:20] * darsie wishes someone would comment on his screenshots.
L159[16:56:34] <flub2> https://66.media.tumblr.com/254a2ed04808cea10105aece7a5b0c49/tumblr_pj5kkvcU8m1r539hzo1_400.gif
L160[16:57:41] <raptop> darsie: Are you sure that wasn't just a slow and fancy sacrifice to The Kraken?
L161[16:58:15] <darsie> I'm not sure I understand.
L162[16:58:46] <darsie> Was a 15 m/s impact.
L163[16:59:38] <darsie> Oh, the first one? :)
L164[17:00:19] <raptop> The way the kerbal's head ended up under ground.
L165[17:06:29] <flub2> Rokker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/520737813721907212/FB_IMG_1542243848490.jpg
L166[17:08:23] <flub2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/520738260973256754/FB_IMG_1542893619255.jpg
L167[17:10:25] <darsie> Do they have chutes?
L168[17:10:40] <flub2> that plane is made of stalinium, no need for such thing
L169[17:10:55] <flub2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/520738951502364672/tumblr_pifnqgRLXz1r539hzo1_500.png
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L192[20:55:50] <marginaleye> hi
L193[20:55:52] <Mod9000> Hello, marginaleye
L194[20:56:58] <raptop> greetings
L195[20:58:28] <marginaleye> can I ask a question re. mods?
L196[20:58:47] <raptop> Generally, yes. Do you mean game mods, or channel/forum moderators?
L197[20:59:04] <marginaleye> I meant game mods, not forum moderators :)
L198[20:59:13] <marginaleye> sorry for the ambiguity
L199[20:59:44] <raptop> Anyway, I haven't had that much experience with the current state of game mods, but will try to answer.
L200[21:00:17] <marginaleye> well, I'm wondering if the Procedural Parts mod is known to cause problems with the latest version of the game (1.5.1, right?)
L201[21:01:06] <raptop> yeah, 1.5.1 is the latest. If it has issues, it also would with 1.5 most likely.
L202[21:02:33] <raptop> But I haven't done much with procederal parts lately. >_>;;
L203[21:03:51] <marginaleye> ah, okay. but it's not a known troublemaker or source of instability?
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L206[21:06:38] <marginaleye> sorry, I had some connectivity trouble
L207[21:08:15] <marginaleye> anyway, I was having terrible trouble with the game crashing when going from the VAB to the launch pad, and thought Procedural Parts might be to blame.
L208[21:09:20] <raptop> Possibly, seeing as it hasn't been updated since, er, 1.3
L209[21:11:03] <marginaleye> yes, that was my concern... is it possible that having too many parts packs installed could cause that problem, however?
L210[21:12:08] <raptop> That too, though less so as the 64bit version has gotten better.
L211[21:12:34] <raptop> Uh, you probably want to be on the Tidal Stream Branch of Procedural Parts?
L212[21:13:13] <marginaleye> FWIW, I'm currently using a 1.5.1 on OSX. I was using 1.4.5 (also on OSX) when I observed this crashing phenomenon.
L213[21:16:35] <marginaleye> is there any way to know "how much is too much" re. parts packs? (apart, that is, from actually seeing crashing)
L214[21:18:10] <raptop> Check memory usage in activity monitor?
L215[21:18:25] <marginaleye> that makes sense, thanks.
L216[21:19:06] <raptop> In particular, I would want to see if the crashes are around 4 gig, or around system ram level.
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L225[22:10:08] <JVFoxy> Huh... Delta V update.. nice
L226[22:10:37] <UmbralRaptor> shiny
L227[22:13:35] <darsie> I guess that's the smallest orbiter: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot117.png
L228[22:16:46] <darsie> It's a bit tricky to fly, cause you have to switch hibernation on/off and use a little thrust during coast to keep attitude.
L229[22:21:15] <JVFoxy> I'd question i fits enough fuel to reach orbit
L230[22:21:36] <darsie> It does.
L231[22:22:17] <darsie> Has 438 m/s left in orbit.
L232[22:24:43] <darsie> With a 10 kg battery has 346 m/s left.
L233[22:43:19] <JVFoxy> huh..
L234[22:43:59] <JVFoxy> guess it wouldn't have much left if you stuck batteries/solar panels and pair of relay antennae huh?
L235[22:44:35] <JVFoxy> launch microsat via missile
L236[22:46:20] <darsie> Now I put two solar panels *inside* the fuel tanks to avoid drag. Works :).
L237[22:47:01] <darsie> instead of the battery.
L238[22:47:30] <JVFoxy> I usually add a battery because I don't know if the internal bank is enough to support it during the dark side of the planet
L239[22:47:45] <darsie> It is, if you hibernate.
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L242[22:55:19] <JVFoxy> also figured putting battery inside stuff, sun would get blocked
L243[22:56:00] <darsie> did you mean solar panel?
L244[23:01:30] <JVFoxy> er ya.. putting panels inside stuff, figured would make it so it was blocked.. -shrug
L245[23:01:51] <JVFoxy> beyond that, figured was a little cheaty..
L246[23:01:55] <darsie> I tried, it doesn't.
L247[23:02:00] <darsie> yeah.
L248[23:02:33] <darsie> But it should be possible to put tiny solar panels on the rocket with very low drag.
L249[23:02:50] <JVFoxy> if I really wanted, I could mod a battery part to have panels, like a ring around it. Or act like it does
L250[23:04:31] <JVFoxy> I've seen a custom part use the solar tracker module to make the 'ring of panels' act like they stay in sunlight
L251[23:04:40] <darsie> The panels in teh tank did get blocked by the okto2, which wouldn't have happened if they were outside.
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L253[23:10:30] <JVFoxy> I guess it figures where the center of a part is and how big that part is in order to determine if it blocks the sun or not.
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L256[23:14:11] <darsie> If you are inside a part you can see outside. I guess that's why it doesn't block the sun.
L257[23:16:09] <JVFoxy> perhaps.. though that is just a visual graphic side of things. Not sure how htey figure line of sight for sun to part, if its blocked or not.
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L260[23:47:03] <darsie> Hmm, maybe the hidden solar panels cause drag, too. With outside panels I have 297 m/s left and the flight wasn't ideal.
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