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L1[00:00:16] <UmbralRaptop> To be fair, making travel through a full sized countryside interesting is non=trivial
L2[00:00:51] <Scolar_Visari> Time compression fast travel!
L3[00:01:06] <Scolar_Visari> Like Silent Hunter, but without the chance of destroyers.
L4[00:01:13] <UmbralRaptop> hah
L5[00:01:23] * Scolar_Visari expects Cliffracers would replace enemy aircraft.
L6[00:02:29] <UmbralRaptop> The trick would be to make a targeted AOE act as flak
L7[00:03:00] <Scolar_Visari> Crossbows with Dwemer proximity fuse bolt-heads.
L8[00:03:58] * Scolar_Visari thinks it would actually be possible to make a 1:1 scale Morrowind-esque world with modern levels of procedural generation. How interactive it would be, on the other hand . . .
L9[00:05:25] <Scolar_Visari> Vivec might be a pain, though.
L10[00:05:55] <UmbralRaptop> aack, water physics
L11[00:07:55] <Scolar_Visari> It's gotten better! The real issue I was thinking of is that the cantons would be odd to scale up.
L12[00:08:15] <UmbralRaptop> Hrm
L13[00:08:27] <Scolar_Visari> Though if you're going for post Red Year Morrowind, you need only make a giant crater.
L14[00:09:28] * UmbralRaptop wonders if there would be any ghosts wandering the crater
L15[00:10:06] <Scolar_Visari> We'll need Ghost Gate MK II to keep them out.
L16[00:12:15] <UmbralRaptop> Well, maybe. Some might have been launched as far as Sommerset Isle
L17[00:12:47] <Scolar_Visari> "On the Red Year, it will Rain Ghosts."
L18[00:13:36] <Scolar_Visari> That would be an interesting conjuration mechanic. Rather than summon something with a portal to Oblivion, have it fall Space Marine style on your foes.
L19[00:14:02] <Scolar_Visari> "Ancestors in orbit, I summon ye! Now I just need to wait a few minutes for them to apply ectoplasmic retrothrust."
L20[00:14:03] <UmbralRaptop> vaporized ghosts, blown into the stratosphere, circle the planet
L21[00:14:35] <UmbralRaptop> Or that.
L22[00:15:07] <UmbralRaptop> Divine intervention, ion cannon, close enough
L23[00:15:54] <Scolar_Visari> ALMSIVI Ancestral Defense Initiative.
L24[00:17:34] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm, the more I think about it, a post-apocalyptic Morrowind would've been a safer bet than Fallout '76.
L25[00:18:44] <Scolar_Visari> Just replace mutants with very upset Argonians and it's very much Fallout 5!
L26[00:20:10] * UmbralRaptop is confused by Fallout 76. Apparently launching nukes at other players is suppposed to be a common thing, but 3 at once crashed the server?
L27[00:22:09] <Scolar_Visari> Oh that's not even the worse thing. Some players have reported immortality in places meant to insta-kill them (such as long falls into crevices).
L28[00:32:03] <UmbralRaptop> oops
L29[00:33:48] <Scolar_Visari> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-23-fallout-76-bug-grants-player-permanent-god-mode-and-now-theyre-begging-for-death
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L31[00:38:25] <Scolar_Visari> Continuing the proud Bethesda tradition of buggy releases.
L32[00:38:57] <Althego> hehe
L33[00:39:05] <Althego> they are not unique in this
L34[00:39:10] <Althego> rather it is the norm
L35[00:40:59] <Scolar_Visari> Ah, but few things are *as* buggy as a Bethesda title at release. Heck, there are a lot of bugs (many very well documented) they never ended up fixing in the various Elder Scrolls games.
L36[00:41:24] <Scolar_Visari> If I had a penny for every time Fallout 3 CTDed, I'd also have . . . A few dollars I guess.
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L39[00:49:08] * Scolar_Visari goes off to see if Earth has a tilde activated console for debugging.
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L41[01:00:24] <Althego> no... a 3d lion king... no, no, no
L42[01:01:56] <UmbralRaptop> Considering beetles, I'd say that earth is decidedly lacking in debugging.
L43[01:02:17] <Althego> as winter approaches all the stinkbugs want to come inside
L44[01:03:05] <Althego> they are just a bit annoying, but still
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L71[07:28:12] <Draconiator> heh, fixing my trailer and multitasking to do it....KSP is a memory hog hehe
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L80[09:41:23] <darsie> Does FAR give Kerbals lift?
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L82[09:46:11] <VanDisaster> dont think they count as vehicles
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L84[10:02:26] <lordcirth> darsie, FAR generates the aero profile from the collision mesh
L85[10:02:54] <darsie> cool
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L90[10:46:45] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYl6fX1xNw looks ugly
L91[10:46:58] <Althego> notto mention the previous landingattempt failed
L92[10:47:33] <Althego> the wheels dont look very durable either
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L96[11:43:26] <goblin> is it possible to force Kerbals to use RCS instead of walking?
L97[11:43:42] <goblin> it'd be particularly useful to prevent them from running down the hills
L98[11:44:13] <Althego> turn on rcs and use it?
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L100[11:44:40] <goblin> Althego, nothing happens though. The RCS doesn't get switched on while a kerbal is running / rolling downhill
L101[11:44:52] <Althego> ah while ragdolling
L102[11:44:58] <Althego> have to wait until it stops
L103[11:44:59] <goblin> that.
L104[11:45:16] <goblin> ok, thanks
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L123[13:15:55] <Fluburtur> came back from the paris maker faire
L124[13:16:10] <Fluburtur> as usual, I spent most of the day at the stand that had lego
L125[13:16:18] <Althego> hehe
L126[13:16:28] <Althego> how many parises did you make? :)
L127[13:16:48] <Fluburtur> lel nothing
L128[13:17:03] <Fluburtur> it is peoples that make pieces to connect lego parts to other stull like mecanno and such
L129[13:17:30] <Fluburtur> I built stuff and they liked it so I stayed there all day and they gave me a free tshirt
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L133[14:07:06] *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause
L134[14:36:20] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: nice
L135[14:36:22] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: pics? ;)
L136[14:37:20] <Fluburtur> not yet
L137[14:37:25] <Fluburtur> I havent taken much
L138[14:37:49] <Althego> it sounded liek you are going to go back and take a few more after the event :)
L139[14:38:02] <Fluburtur> nah
L140[14:38:07] <Fluburtur> I have seen everything
L141[14:50:22] <APlayer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsBnDldZg3o
L142[14:50:22] <kmath> YouTube - I've Seen Everything
L143[14:50:39] <APlayer> Dammit kmath spoiling it again :P
L144[14:51:36] <Althego> hehe
L145[14:52:50] <Eddi|zuHause> why does youtube not have a feature to retroactively correct aspect ratio
L146[14:53:06] <Althego> hehe, see relevant xkcd
L147[14:53:21] <Althego> https://xkcd.com/1187/
L148[14:53:38] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/81ef3bbf0c11e9b2e81840710505cf45/tumblr_p0qw1go8mp1vc0mnyo1_540.jpg
L149[14:53:48] <Althego> loool
L150[14:54:00] <Eddi|zuHause> letterboxing is a bit different from wrong aspect ratio
L151[14:54:30] <Fluburtur> also I have been playing a nice furry game made by a guy that writtes really well and I was talking with one of the bad guys of the game https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459799011457499146/515991824641425422/Sans_titre_2.jpg
L152[14:55:10] <Fluburtur> dude in game: absolute murderer ready to sell his whole familly for a promotion
L153[14:55:16] <Fluburtur> dude irl: totally adorable
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L171[15:16:16] <oliveriskerbal> hi
L172[15:16:17] <Mod9000> Hello, oliveriskerbal
L173[15:16:52] <oliveriskerbal> i seen some pictures with kerbals without helemets
L174[15:17:23] <oliveriskerbal> i was thinking how i can take the helmet off
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L176[15:17:38] <darsie> Go in a capsule.
L177[15:18:29] <oliveriskerbal> how can i go on capsule not to be annoying
L178[15:21:29] <darsie> Build a rocket with a capsule and click launch.
L179[15:21:29] <oliveriskerbal> i guess ill never know
L180[15:21:34] <oliveriskerbal> oh ok
L181[15:21:36] <oliveriskerbal> i did
L182[15:21:40] <oliveriskerbal> no worries
L183[15:21:46] <oliveriskerbal> its just a pod by the way
L184[15:21:52] <darsie> yeah
L185[15:22:14] <oliveriskerbal> so now am just rolling around now
L186[15:22:16] <darsie> click interior view.
L187[15:22:23] <oliveriskerbal> alright
L188[15:22:44] <oliveriskerbal> am on interior view
L189[15:23:36] <darsie> Does she wear a helmet?
L190[15:24:01] <oliveriskerbal> yeah she still has a helemet
L191[15:24:15] <darsie> I'll try it.
L192[15:25:50] <oliveriskerbal> okie dokie
L193[15:27:28] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot64.png
L194[15:28:32] <oliveriskerbal> ok
L195[15:28:49] <oliveriskerbal> OH i ment while eva ;-;
L196[15:29:18] <oliveriskerbal> sorry for wasting your time
L197[15:29:40] <darsie> sorry for wasting your time
L198[15:30:33] <darsie> Maybe the interior Kerbal can be swapped with the exterior one.
L199[15:31:44] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485427078964183070/516002465523695637/sketch.jpg
L200[15:32:33] <oliveriskerbal> i saw a picture with a kerbal without helemet while on eva
L201[15:32:42] <Fluburtur> thats mods
L202[15:33:06] <oliveriskerbal> oh
L203[15:33:51] <darsie> Do they die when taking the helmet off without breathable atmosphere?
L204[15:34:04] <Fluburtur> no
L205[15:35:06] <oliveriskerbal> do you know where i can find the mod
L206[15:35:32] <darsie> Have you tried ckan?
L207[15:40:38] <oliveriskerbal> where can i find the mod
L208[15:40:49] <oliveriskerbal> am on ckan
L209[15:41:45] <darsie> dunno. Try the search function.
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L211[15:43:54] <darsie> or google
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L215[15:48:52] <darsie> How can I have two intersects with my Pe higher than the target Ap?
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L218[15:50:14] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot65.png
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L222[15:58:08] <oliveriskerbal> guys how can i install ckans mods
L223[15:59:56] <darsie> Click on the square on the left side in the mod's line, then click install or commit or so.
L224[16:00:22] <darsie> Did you grow up in the jungle? ;)
L225[16:00:54] <oliveriskerbal> yes
L226[16:00:58] <oliveriskerbal> indeed yes i did
L227[16:01:05] <darsie> cool :)
L228[16:01:35] <darsie> And now you play KSP cause they made it a soy plantation?
L229[16:03:24] <oliveriskerbal> do you have discod cause i dont know if am doing it right
L230[16:03:29] <oliveriskerbal> discord
L231[16:03:35] <darsie> no
L232[16:03:38] <oliveriskerbal> oh
L233[16:03:45] <darsie> What is discord?
L234[16:04:05] <oliveriskerbal> look it up its awesome
L235[16:05:11] <darsie> Discord is a proprietary freeware VoIP application and digital distribution[4] platform designed for video gaming communities, that specializes in text, image, video and audio communication between users in a chat channel.
L236[16:05:31] <darsie> awesome
L237[16:05:49] <goblin> prioprietary != awesome
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L239[16:05:56] <oliveriskerbal> yeah
L240[16:06:22] <darsie> KSP != awesome
L241[16:07:19] <goblin> I've no idea how they managed to make it so slow
L242[16:07:37] <goblin> on a threadripper with a gtx 1080, I'm browsing the science archives, and it's only 30-40fps
L243[16:07:59] <darsie> 24 fps should be enough for everyone.
L244[16:08:06] <goblin> usually other games max out at the maximum of my monitor, 144fps, unless I go really crazy with Anisotropy and Anti-Alias
L245[16:14:10] <goblin> ok, I turned down the settings and it's more like 40-55fps now
L246[16:14:44] <darsie> How can I have two intersects with my Pe higher than the target Ap? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot65.png
L247[16:16:53] <goblin> darsie, dunno, they're not really intersects, but closest approach points?
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L251[16:26:38] <darsie> plane change fixed it.
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L253[16:26:52] <darsie> just 0.4 deg. weird.
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L259[17:12:30] <darsie> Why can't a rescued pilot in a hitchhiker container plan flights?
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L263[17:39:06] <JVFoxy> hitchhicker can isn't considered a controlling body
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L265[17:39:27] <JVFoxy> build a ship out of the can, but people inside the can can't directly control it.
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L268[17:48:16] <UmbralRaptor> More of a prisoner transportation cell?
L269[17:52:48] <JVFoxy> no.. just glorified passenger cabin
L270[18:03:18] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/516041113614811147/20181125005213_1.jpg
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L272[18:05:10] <JVFoxy> fluburtur eh... whats?
L273[18:05:27] <Fluburtur> dude that yanked the tank out of the trench was too strong
L274[18:05:39] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/516041601689321472/20181125000720_1.jpg
L275[18:05:44] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/516041641400860695/20181125000808_1.jpg
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L278[18:39:53] <darsie> JVFoxy: Ok. But the pilot on EVA is a controlling body and he couldn't, either.
L279[18:53:01] <JVFoxy> darsie eva... you control yourself..
L280[18:54:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think you can make maneuver nodes on EVA
L281[18:54:31] <Eddi|zuHause> (i vaguely remember trying that once)
L282[18:56:18] <JVFoxy> far as I know.. to do node control, vessel has to have seat with controls. or a controlling probe radio connected to either KSC, or qualified 'command vessel'. passengers have no control over vessel
L283[19:06:09] <Eddi|zuHause> iirc the vessel must have a pilot on board, or connection like an unmanned probe
L284[19:07:54] <JVFoxy> you can have a non-pilot with a connected probe core.. just as long as the core is able to radio link out to ksc or command
L285[19:08:12] <JVFoxy> though.. core has to have the 'assistance' tag
L286[19:08:30] <Eddi|zuHause> the regular command pods usually have that
L287[19:08:57] <JVFoxy> or whatever.. the whole 'command from here' and a few other things makes it a touch confusing
L288[19:09:29] <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what that has to do with anything
L289[19:09:52] <Eddi|zuHause> "command from here" just affects the navball and control directions
L290[19:10:08] <JVFoxy> just thinking... a vessel with a probe core, probably just giong to command it from the core by default...
L291[19:10:25] <JVFoxy> even if you had command seat/pilot in command pod...
L292[19:10:47] <Eddi|zuHause> the "best" pilot is chosen for SAS
L293[19:10:56] <Eddi|zuHause> including probe cores
L294[19:11:15] <Eddi|zuHause> that is completely independent from "command from here"
L295[19:11:48] <JVFoxy> I have a mk1 command go up, connected to a booster section nose to nose. piloted the booster section though the probe core otherwise nav ball would ahve been backwards from the seat. it was around kerbin so couldn't really test a few things out while out of reach from ksc
L296[19:12:53] <JVFoxy> command from here can be set for when docking ports together, but can also allow you to select which command item to use if they oriented differently
L297[19:13:16] <Eddi|zuHause> that's what i said.
L298[19:13:31] <JVFoxy> recall someone in a video had a core on the back of the shuttle but angled about 5 degrees off the flight line. used it for re-entry
L299[19:14:34] <JVFoxy> flight up was with the cockpit.. re-entry switched to core.. something about keeping nose up for reentry
L300[19:14:43] <JVFoxy> but anyways..
L301[19:17:24] <JVFoxy> uff... engineers... https://v.redd.it/ra1n46m7za021/DASH_1_2_M#mp4
L302[19:19:24] <Eddi|zuHause> not even CNC
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L304[19:20:13] <JVFoxy> I was half expecting him to go back, find he didn't cut them small enough
L305[19:20:17] <Rolf> high precision crackers
L306[19:20:49] <JVFoxy> I've seen some of Collin's vids... pretty crazy and fun :P
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L315[20:32:29] <GlassYuri> how not to advertise https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsx4Ue7U8AAkj3r.jpg
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L317[20:36:24] <UmbralRaptor> At least it's not a DC-10
L318[21:08:26] <Rolf> lol
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L326[22:32:10] <Fraston> lol
L327[22:32:12] <Fraston> hi
L328[22:32:12] <Mod9000> Hello, Fraston
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L330[22:34:44] <UmbralRaptor> sigh
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L332[22:45:06] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: "I aim at the stars, but sometimes I miss entirely."
L333[22:46:32] * Scolar_Visari ponders how they could suck at World at Tanks but perform decently with War Thunder.
L334[22:47:14] <GlassYuri> one more dimension to work with
L335[22:47:53] <Scolar_Visari> I haven't even gotten to the airplanes, which I heard are significantly improved in War Thunder over WoT.
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L337[22:48:13] <Scolar_Visari> There's also something satisfying about seeing what your shots actually hit, too.
L338[22:52:29] * Scolar_Visari also ponders if InSight might hit water.
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L340[23:18:26] <Scolar_Visari> https://mars.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/main_images/134_MarsLandingSites_InSight.jpg
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