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L10[01:35:31] <GlsFrg|phone> apparently the
JAXA SS-520 is nicknamed 'utility pole rocket'
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L41[04:26:55] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, overnight,
my mouse developed this habit of doubleclicking instead of single
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L43[04:50:39] <petti> standard issue
logitech microswitch behavior
L44[04:51:06] <petti> I ordered a bunch of
new switches to fix mine.
L45[04:52:15] <petti> Eddi|zuHause: there
are also spring parts on sale in ebay and instructions how to fix
it but the parts are really small and delicate.
L46[04:58:10] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going to
blame it on the battery being low, and hope it fixes itself
L47[05:07:06] <JVFoxy> ... oh
wireless
L48[05:07:21] <JVFoxy> mouse with an
appetite :P
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L80[10:31:03] <Eddi|zuHause> 99% war
exhaustion, uhm that'll be close :/
L81[10:36:40] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, yes, just
barely managed to get that last planet occupied...
L82[10:41:23] <Althego> so the ice cream
truck succesfully arrived to the iss
L83[10:41:35] <Althego> i alwats leave that
second s out
L84[10:41:38] <Althego> so annoying
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L86[10:42:27] <Althego> at least one of the
guys mentioned it had icecream on board
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L88[10:57:42] <Fluburtur> cold
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L91[11:12:16] <Althego> lol
L92[11:12:22] <Althego> cat?
L93[11:13:35] <Fluburtur> cat leakage
L94[11:13:42] <Fluburtur> from the cat
container
L96[11:15:58] <Althego> lol
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L102[11:29:28] <Althego> let's hope next
week everything works jsut as good
L103[11:30:10] <Althego> still like the 6
and 7 minutes of terror better
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L111[11:52:27] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think it's a good idea to rival a fallen empire?
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L119[12:09:39] <Althego> obviously
L120[12:10:03] <Althego> i only heard
about the core, but it is one of the dumbest movies
L121[12:21:51] <goblin> My wheels aren't
driving forward nor backward:
https://i.imgur.com/AIsAbNd.jpg . That's probably
because the vehicle thinks forward is "up" (due to the
way the octo probe core is mounted). Is there a way to
override/change that without rebuilding the ship?
L122[12:22:32] <Althego> i would stick a
small docking port on the side of the lab and select control from
here from the right click menu
L123[12:23:09] <Althego> or rather it is
unstable this way, so rotate the whole thing on the side
L124[12:23:27] <goblin> ah good point,
I'll need a docking port too for that contract ;-/
L125[12:23:36] <goblin> yeah, I wanted to
see just how unstable it gets that way
L126[12:24:03] <goblin> I'll be testing
rotated next ;-)
L127[12:24:46] <goblin> I'm not sure how
I'll mount the landing engine when it's rotated though...
L128[12:25:10] <Althego> the magic of the
cubic octagonal strut solves everything
L129[12:25:17] <Althego> the most
important part in the game
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L131[12:26:46] <goblin> yeah, I've
invented space flight, retractable ladders and solar panels and
whatnot, but my engineers still don't know how to build a cubic
octagonal strut ;-/
L132[12:27:13] <Althego> they didnt even
know about ehrrls first :)
L133[12:27:14] <goblin> they should really
teach them that before telling them how to build wheels and stuff
;-)
L134[12:27:16] <Althego> wheels
L135[12:27:37] <goblin> yeah true
;-)
L136[12:28:13] <Althego> alternatively the
normal metal parts and fuel pipes combines can do something
similar
L137[12:28:43] <goblin> ok, I'll hack
something up with girders I guess
L138[12:29:47] <Althego> maybe put tanks
on the side, engines on thetanks, and then rotate and shift them in
place
L139[12:30:22] <Althego> but depending on
gravity i would land it on tail and then let it fall on the
wheels
L140[12:31:49] <goblin> ha, wow, what a
trick :-)
L141[12:32:10] <Althego> works with
spaceplanes landing on nuke on the mun :)
L142[12:39:32] <goblin> oh, the octagonal
strut is only 1kg, compared to 125kg of the modular girder. I guess
it's worth the 160 science then! :-)
L143[12:39:44] <Althego> it is one of the
best parts
L144[12:40:13] <Althego> small, almost
massless and allows you to connect things you would normally could
not
L146[12:42:20] <Althego> what is
this?
L147[12:42:31] <Fluburtur> french tank
blueprints and technical documents
L148[12:42:37] <Althego> hehe
L149[12:42:44] <Althego> so the next one
is an rc tank?
L150[12:42:47] <Althego> optionally
flying?
L151[12:43:08] <Fluburtur> I will wait
until im successful enough to have a molded plastic production
line
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L153[12:48:14] <Althego> i ran out of
internet
L154[12:48:28] <Althego> for today at
least. luckily it is a renewable resource
L155[12:53:50] <Gasher> oscillante?
tilting or rotating?
L156[12:53:58] <Fluburtur> tilting
L157[12:54:08] <Fluburtur> the whole
turret moves, easier for the autoloader
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L166[13:10:02] <goblin>
https://i.imgur.com/3TDPAdC.jpg <- this feels
like cheating. Can I really go to Minmus like that, on Career mode?
Will it really be an honest way to fill a contract?
L167[13:10:34] <goblin> it's quite stable
to drive ;-)
L168[13:10:38] <Althego> i usually try to
craft not separated
L169[13:10:42] <Althego> to make
L170[13:10:45] <Althego> the
L171[13:11:18] <Althego> for the wheels
you dont need the cubic...
L172[13:11:42] <goblin> Althego, I
researched them, so now I want to show off, ok? ;-)
L173[13:11:47] <Althego> hehe
L174[13:12:09] <Gasher> be careful as they
lose rigidness quite fast when you pile them up
L175[13:12:14] <Althego> for minmus
stability does not matter,. you can land on the biggest flat planes
in the solar system
L176[13:12:25] <Althego> magic of
autostruts
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L180[13:42:58] <Draconiator> ohhhhh I KNOW
how to make rovers that are near indestructible.
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L182[13:43:30] <Althego> from metal
plates?
L184[13:47:58] <Althego> same thing, 60
m/s tolerance (or 80? i always mix 6 and 8)
L186[13:56:33] <Althego> nice site
L187[13:56:38] <Althego> follow the
water
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L218[15:57:44] <mec> Is there a mod that
increases/decreases control surface authority limiters based on
speed and/or altitude?
L219[16:02:45] <Althego> maybe pilot
assistant
L220[16:03:23] <Althego> oh that is
dead
L221[16:03:48] <mec> there's a module like
it in mechjeb, but that's more for automated flying than making it
easier to control manually
L222[16:04:01] <Althego> in the worst case
you can code it in kos
L223[16:04:17] <Althego> but that would be
a lot of work
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L233[16:45:41] <Eddi|zuHause> i think if
someone asks "is there a mod for <X>" the last
thing they want to hear is "well, you can write
one"
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L240[17:01:18] <Draconiator> Anyone else
feel like Despicable Me is the closest we'll get to a Kerbal
movie?
L241[17:02:15] <KrazyKrl> I dunno...
Michael Bay movies are pretty close.
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L244[17:15:48] <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't
really watch either of those
L245[17:19:36] <raptop> Something
something The Martian
L246[17:20:00] <Eddi|zuHause> didn't watch
that as well
L247[17:21:32] <raptop> Hrm... Did you
watch Interstellar?
L248[17:21:56] <Eddi|zuHause> that was the
one with the weird black hole dimension whatever?
L249[17:22:52] <raptop> Yeah
L250[17:23:00] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i did
watch that
L251[17:23:11] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
think there was much KSP in that, though :p
L252[17:23:31] <raptop> True, but you can
appreciate that they had docking problems
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L269[19:45:06] <Scolar_visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth von
Kerman The Wise? It's not a story the program would tell you.
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L272[19:47:39] <UmbralRaptop> Following
the water right into an ancient delta? :D
L273[19:47:55] <Scolar_visari>
UmbralRaptop: Indeed!
L274[19:48:11] <Scolar_visari> It will
stab Mars . . . FOR SCIENCE!
L275[19:48:33] <UmbralRaptop> (To be fair,
so will Insight)
L276[19:49:08] <Scolar_visari> Yes, but I
don't think it will be nearly as . . . InSightful.
L277[19:49:33] <Scolar_visari> Also,
InSight can only stab one spot. Mars 2020 will stab multiple
spots.
L278[19:51:21] <UmbralRaptop> point
L279[19:52:03] *
UmbralRaptop isn't familiar with 2020s instruments. In particular,
will there be a new chemcam?
L280[19:52:15] <Scolar_visari> I know
there's a new astrobiology suite
L282[19:55:51] <UmbralRaptop> Ah,
supercam
L283[19:55:51] <Scolar_visari> Also: A
tiny helicopter
L284[19:56:05] <UmbralRaptop> Also, Raman
spectroscopy. Nice.
L285[19:56:24] <JVFoxy> Rover got its
Moxie on
L286[19:57:25] <Scolar_visari>
UmbralRaptop: College students have to eat something on Mars I
guess?
L287[19:57:28] <JVFoxy> so.. another RTG
rover? I should look up on how the whole radio isotopes program has
been these days
L288[19:57:42] <UmbralRaptop> Hah
L289[19:58:03] <JVFoxy> last I heard...
they may have to mix in some other stuff to make what they still
have left over last long enough
L290[19:58:17] <JVFoxy> Unless.... program
started up again or htey planning to buy from somewhere
L291[19:58:57] <Scolar_visari> JVFoxy: The
United States resumed Pu-238 production several years ago.
L292[19:59:13] <Scolar_visari> Canada also
produces some.
L293[19:59:45] <UmbralRaptop> More
seriously, it's a really clever bit of IR spectroscopy that detects
various kinds of molecular bonds. Wikipedia can probably better
explain, but the technique has become ubiquitous in materials
science.
L294[20:00:25] <Scolar_visari>
UmbralRaptop: The next logical step will be sending a gnome with a
higher degree in geology.
L295[20:01:16] <JVFoxy> ok guess I'm a
little behind... was stuff on news how even medicine here was going
to loose out because production of certain materials was shutting
down too
L296[20:02:10] <UmbralRaptop> I mean, if
the journey to mars™ or an equivalent happens…
L297[20:02:31] <Scolar_visari>
UmbralRaptop: Journey to Mars, but with tiny gnomes and gnome-hat
adorned helmets.
L298[20:03:18] <UmbralRaptop> Low mass
crew who consume less food and oxygen.
L299[20:03:39] <JVFoxy> I know one comic
talked about the use of midgets for space travel... smaller,
lighter, took less resources for survival...
L300[20:03:39] <Scolar_visari> Unlike the
hobbits, who require more
L301[20:04:03] <Scolar_visari>
UmbralRaptop: Though, in the grand scheme of things, oxygen
consumption's not that big on the list.
L302[20:04:10] <Scolar_visari> Water, on
the other hand.
L303[20:04:18] <JVFoxy> recycle
water
L304[20:04:28] <Scolar_visari> You still
require a large amount even with recylcing.
L305[20:04:42] <JVFoxy> well ya.. you do
need a buffer
L306[20:05:09] <JVFoxy> there are other
systems that can extract it, not just from waste but excess in the
air
L307[20:05:37] <Scolar_visari> Recovery of
water from the air is the easiest and, historically, the first kind
of space system water recycling to have been performed.
L308[20:05:43] <Scolar_visari> Recycling
urine is a bit trickier!
L309[20:07:00] <JVFoxy> well from urine
you do have to deal with a lot of other things mixed in
L310[20:07:19] <JVFoxy> its also not
exactly consistant
L311[20:09:18] <JVFoxy> a process called
De-polymerization, basically the break down of organics, rubber,
waste into more simple materials and oils, they found they couldn't
use teh same settings for everything that went in. It took them a
while to figure out, ok we put rubber in, it needs these particular
things going. And then we'll do organic waste, have to know a
bit
L312[20:09:18] <JVFoxy> more of what
exactly ti is so they could fix the settings
L313[20:09:47] <JVFoxy> pulling water from
air and urine.. ya two different processes... but doable.
L314[20:11:19] <JVFoxy> weee.. cruise'n
270m/s at 15km up... full pitch up.. guess I hit the design limit
of this wide wing
L315[20:13:15] *
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photograph for a promotional screenshot.
L316[20:17:50] <JVFoxy> ok.. plane sorta
stuck in equilibrium...
L317[20:18:08] <JVFoxy> though now I
wondering, any mod that does a flying space telescope on a
plane?
L318[20:19:12] <Scolar_visari> I suppose
you could simply stick one of the many telescope mod components on
one, though I'm not sure any work within an atmosphere.
L319[20:22:39] <UmbralRaptop> For that
matter, the sentinel telescope clone is stock, right?
L320[20:23:58] <JVFoxy> just... crazy one
of the early photos of planet in solar system was through telescope
that flew up on a balloon to 80,000 feet.
L321[20:33:26] <JVFoxy> Ah.. 1970's
National Geographic, Stratoscope II, a balloon with a telescope
launched from Taxas to 80k feet,takes a picture of Uranus. Picture
of a grainy disk shown.
L322[20:34:04] *
Scolar_visari still wants more photos of Venus'
surface.
L323[20:34:25] <Scolar_visari> JVFoxy:
There were certainly older planet photos than that, particularly of
Mars and Jupiter.
L324[20:35:47] <JVFoxy> not surprised..
was more focused on teh fact they sent something up on a balloon
for picture.
L325[20:35:55] <JVFoxy> found images of
the apperatus.. dang that thing's big.
L326[20:37:49] <JVFoxy> ouch.. 3.5 tons by
balloon to 80000 feet...
L327[20:41:13] <Scolar_visari> Balloon
astronomy goes back quite a bit, particularly since you had to
develop film on the telescopes anyway.
L328[20:43:29] <JVFoxy> says for 1 and 2
they used film.. but second half of 2's life they switched to video
cameras
L329[20:44:28] <JVFoxy> first off, I'm
impressed they could accurately point at a planet remotely from a
balloon.. secondly just the size of the thing. I was expecting
something a bit smaller.
L330[20:44:50] <JVFoxy> 1 had a 12"
bore... 2 had a 36"
L331[20:47:32] <Scolar_visari> JVFoxy: I
imagine there were a lot of frames that didn't show the planet and
they threw those out.
L332[20:51:53] *
Scolar_visari ponders why ancient astronaut-eers are still a
thing.
L333[20:52:25] <UmbralRaptop> Reasons.
Mostly bad.
L334[20:53:45] <Scolar_visari>
Particularly since there was a new update on potential assembly
methods for Khufu's pyramid.
L335[20:55:19] <Scolar_visari> "The
pyramids could not have been built by mankind!" "But
there are obvious markings from stoneworking too-" "NOT
BUILT BY MANKIND!"
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L338[20:57:36] <UmbralRaptop> Fine, when
the reticulans arrived, they encountered intense resistance, and
were ultimately all made prisoners of the pharaohs. To secure their
release they had to act as menial laborers for ~200 years.
L339[20:58:52] <Scolar_visari> That's
alt-history sci-fi I can get behind!
L340[20:59:50] <Scolar_visari> Better yet:
Alien refugees from the planet Imhotep find a home in Ancient
Egypt. In return for the pharaoh's kindness and providing the
materials needed to repair their ship, they build great
monuments.
L341[21:00:13] <Scolar_visari> However,
they use copper chisels and wooden mallets.
L342[21:00:30] <UmbralRaptop> Hah!
L343[21:01:39] <Scolar_visari> "We
shall teach you the ways of monumental architecture with the
technology you have available so you may repeat our achievements,
mammals!"
L344[21:02:24] <Scolar_visari> And thus
spoke the Imhotepians during the signing of the treaty with the
Pharaoh, blessed be thy house, as they descended from their Sky
Barque hand in claw.
L345[21:05:04] <JVFoxy> Scolar_visari not
sure... though did see quite a few articles on the machines. Not
sure I've the mind to sift through things at the moment. I still
have a PDF from gemini project, they had a couple of detectors on
two flights. Occasionally I'll pick away at them when mood hits
me.
L346[21:05:07] <Scolar_visari> Huh,
Runescape's still a thing?
L347[21:05:24] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_visari: it's even more of a thing now then it was years ago
I argue
L348[21:05:25] <Scolar_visari> JVFoxy:
Rule of thumb for any photography: Most of your photos aren't worth
keeping.
L349[21:05:37] <Scolar_visari> Kosmonaut:
Well I suppose if Ultima Online still hasn't died.
L350[21:05:38] <TheKosmonaut> And it
released on iOS
L351[21:06:05] <JVFoxy> seems to be rule
of thumb with me: camera is never high quality enough
L352[21:10:38] <UmbralRaptop> JVFoxy: As
someone with access to a 0.8 m telescope, I can confirm this.
>_>;;
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L354[21:22:17] <Scolar_visari> 2nd rule of
thumb: Aliens and sasquatch will photo bomb the best photos.
L355[21:26:14] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_visari: Sasquatch is always blurry though
L356[21:26:24] <TheKosmonaut> That's just
how the 'squatch do
L357[21:27:12] <falalilal> the casino is
officially open!
L358[21:28:32] <falalilal> and in the
meanwhile i've gone from struggling to get encounters by tugging on
the node strings to burning so casually without even looking at the
map that I get encounters at the apoapsis where i have to burn at
full speed in order not to crash into the station XD
L359[21:32:16] <Scolar_visari> Kosmonaut:
Have you ever seen a high resolution photo of an alien that wasn't
censored by NASA? /s
L360[21:57:16] *
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soup.
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L362[22:15:26] <JVFoxy> Ponder: should I
do a cautionary video on what caused my station contract not to
complete? Think its really a common issue out there? build station,
get it to orbit. End up docking an older craft to it. later bring
up the crew only to find it won't complete the contract because the
other docked ship is messing with things?
L364[22:21:06] <Draconiator> *resque
L365[22:21:15] <falalilal> *rescue
L366[22:24:00] <JVFoxy> ... ssto in flying
wing design?
L367[22:29:22] <lordcirth_> JVFoxy, this
seems like a problem largely solved by the cheat menu, IMHO
L368[22:29:58] <Draconiator> Well it'll
get there through a traditional launch, but on Duna it'll act like
a SSTO
L369[22:32:45] <JVFoxy> lordcirth_
suggested earlier... one way yes. But undocking the 'offending'
craft fixed it...
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L371[22:33:17] <JVFoxy> just need to back
off long enough, then reconnect after contract closes up
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L383[23:35:27] <Guest38697> how do I buy
soft kerbles
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L386[23:52:19] <JVFoxy> .... 'soft'
kerbals?
L387[23:52:24] <JVFoxy> and of course..
poof
L388[23:55:05] <Althego> they can survive
harder impacts than most parts
L389[23:56:11] <JVFoxy> long as they land
head first... so I've seen
L390[23:59:52] <cringe> ISS UTL: 56%