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L60[09:09:28] <deufrai> Hi there
L61[09:09:50] <darsie> .
L62[09:13:09] <UmbralRaptop> \o
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L64[09:18:38] <deufrai> Started stock KSP this week. Totalling 17h of gameplay in career & normal difficulty. Just wanted to pop and say 'Hi' and 'Thanks'
L65[09:18:58] <deufrai> Idling here to check on the discussions of seasonned "players"
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L67[09:19:29] <Althego> which are mostly weird thingsd
L68[09:19:39] <deufrai> hopefully :)
L69[09:19:46] <Althego> if any
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L71[09:23:54] <Althego> hmm, scott 7 hours ago
L72[09:36:14] <Althego> at 2:%5 does he have a mod that puts a face on the mun? maybe his own?
L73[09:36:18] <Althego> 2:55
L74[10:03:15] <Althego> what are they doing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpwtRkrxdw
L75[10:05:26] <hoglahoo> They’re testing Orion Spacecraft in the Pacific Ocean at sunset
L76[10:05:38] <Althego> yes, but... how is that a test
L77[10:05:43] <Althego> ok, it is not leaking
L78[10:06:00] <hoglahoo> by practice recovering a test Orion capsule from the ocean waters
L79[10:06:10] <Althego> that doiesnt test the spacecraft
L80[10:06:14] <Althego> but the crew
L81[10:06:19] <hoglahoo> no, but these tests verify and validate procedures and hardware that will be used to recover the Orion spacecraft after it splashes down in the Pacific Ocean following deep space exploration missions.
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L84[10:06:41] * hoglahoo feels so smart
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L86[10:07:53] <Althego> i can accept that
L87[10:08:33] <Althego> still not the best title
L88[10:09:45] <JVFoxy> bleh?
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L109[11:00:48] <Fluburtur> the last thing you see before you become deaf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/510136557647167501/DSC_0201.JPG
L110[11:00:59] <Althego> haha, you got the noise generator
L111[11:02:40] <Fluburtur> yes finally
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L113[11:07:16] <kubi> for the great delight of your neighbours
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L115[11:07:31] <Althego> they already have to endure airplanes and rockets
L116[11:08:01] <Fluburtur> and the occasionnal full rock band
L117[11:08:18] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCKXGrrto0
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L120[11:10:30] <Judge_Dedd> Nice
L121[11:10:47] <Judge_Dedd> I'm still waiting for the RC plane+rocket combo
L122[11:11:00] <Judge_Dedd> Or at least VR rocket
L123[11:11:04] <Althego> oh no 416.81
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L125[11:11:31] <Fluburtur> im still thinking about the flying pc fan too
L126[11:12:05] <UmbralRaptop> Not sure those have the TWR
L127[11:12:29] <Fluburtur> that would be with a beefy brushless motor
L128[11:13:26] <JVFoxy> whats beefy these days..? seen the 3d printed and home made brushless motors the flitetest guys were messing with earlier?
L129[11:13:37] <Fluburtur> yeah
L130[11:14:08] <JVFoxy> then you get Peter.... buys a set for a full sized ultralight of his own making..
L131[11:15:29] <JVFoxy> the guy that runs the field where I been trying to do my schooling, feeling he's not too fond of the new tech. 'You don't need to get into something new (refering to electric planes) No point spending the extra cash right now.' or something along those lines
L132[11:17:16] <JVFoxy> I been thinking.. download the latest KSP, worth recording playthrough?
L133[11:17:47] <Althego> not much has changed for a long time
L134[11:18:04] <JVFoxy> feeling a bit sad I've neglected some of my previous careers, which actually was doing pretty good. Came up with some neat stuff
L135[11:18:44] <JVFoxy> a few changes...
L136[11:18:59] <darsie> JVFoxy: What does playthrough include? All tech, fully upgrade all buildings, and?
L137[11:19:08] <JVFoxy> I've always the impression people want to see the latest editions of things...
L138[11:20:18] <JVFoxy> career, though I'd skip a lot of the early grinding. I noticed sometimes each career I run, something different comes out of it just before I tech up the research building
L139[11:21:50] <JVFoxy> I'd probably run stock but I wouldn't mind some utilities, graphical features, KIS/KAS, ground experiments, maybe robotics.
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L141[11:23:12] <darsie> So just complete the tech tree?
L142[11:24:15] <JVFoxy> find sandbox is ok for some thing.. a bit of a lean now towards the challenge of building up.
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L146[12:00:03] <kubi> hmm
L147[12:00:11] <kubi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2eYaFNF9I
L148[12:00:59] <Althego> hmm
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L150[12:05:34] <Althego> the shine!
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L153[12:13:28] <Althego> hehe the capsule sunk
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L156[12:36:02] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L157[12:36:25] <darsie> .
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L159[12:37:14] <BadRocketsCo> There used to be a file for the AIES mod that made the landing gear functional again. Does anyone happen to have that laying around somewhere? I can't seem to find it anymore
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L188[16:13:02] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/510214892876464133/DSC_9927.JPG
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L191[16:20:21] <darsie> How much dv does this rocket have?
L192[16:21:06] * UmbralRaptop meows at Fluburtur's cat.
L193[16:22:04] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/510216674562277408/NMS_5788.JPG
L194[16:22:38] <JVFoxy> was going to through link to imgur, time laps of cat growing up. 'They grow up so fat'... :\
L195[16:23:06] <UmbralRaptop> glitch in the matrix?
L196[16:24:48] <JVFoxy> eh...
L197[16:25:07] <JVFoxy> .... grow up so fast.. i swear sometimes keyboard trolls me
L198[16:26:22] * UmbralRaptop was referring to Fluburtur's pic. I assumed you were just making a silly pun?
L199[16:27:30] <JVFoxy> didn't they say it was more like a 'da ja vue' sorta thing? An event you felt had happened already because the matrix made a change and things were just trying to catch up?
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L201[16:37:11] <UmbralRaptop> technically yes
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L204[16:45:59] <JVFoxy> actually, they weren't too far off in the movie... its something that actually happens in the brain they found out in the real world.
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L235[18:08:11] <JVFoxy> ponder....
L236[18:08:25] <JVFoxy> anyone done a challenge: how big a ship can you dock without rcs.. period?
L237[18:09:54] <Neal> depends how much thrust vectoring you have
L238[18:10:03] <Neal> also depends on center of mass
L239[18:11:02] <KrazyKrl> yep, it's literally a matter of how much time warp you want to use.
L240[18:11:20] <KrazyKrl> you can always go at like 0.5m/sec and timewarp
L241[18:11:28] <JVFoxy> using warp to kill rotation? well....
L242[18:13:02] <UmbralRaptop> Also, do action groups plus lots of engines for faking RCS count?
L243[18:13:23] <KrazyKrl> at that point you have just reimplimented RCS
L244[18:13:36] <JVFoxy> just I launched an empty station. Just happened to end up in orbit a little ahead of a booster/relay part from a previous mission. No RCS though, but managed to dock it to one of the station's little pots
L245[18:13:40] <JVFoxy> *ports
L246[18:13:56] <UmbralRaptop> Yes, but it technically doesn't use RCS engines or propellant
L247[18:14:12] <KrazyKrl> it's still an RCS system for translation control.
L248[18:14:58] <JVFoxy> small crafts can dock with no RCS (or translation engines)
L249[18:15:14] <KrazyKrl> anything can dock with no RCS
L250[18:15:32] <JVFoxy> true but sometimes it comes down to skill... a bit of luck
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L252[18:16:11] <JVFoxy> craft can drift a tiny bit depending on where you are in relation because of changes in speeds/vectors between
L253[18:26:35] <JVFoxy> yeesh...
L254[18:26:51] <JVFoxy> place station in orbit around the sun... 6000fuel.. 7500electric charge..
L255[18:27:09] <JVFoxy> wants support for 9 kerbals huh?
L256[18:33:44] <darsie> JVFoxy: If you think it's not worth it, wait for a better contract.
L257[18:34:07] <JVFoxy> its a bit... much.
L258[18:34:23] <darsie> nobody will have a grudge on you for it :).
L259[18:34:52] <JVFoxy> only have the z-200 batteries.. I'd have to take 40-50 of them up
L260[18:34:53] <darsie> But if you like the challenge, go for it.
L261[18:35:51] <darsie> They are quite flexible if you stack that many.
L262[18:36:02] <JVFoxy> I would have to haul a lot of stuff up in several launches, dock them in orbit. find a way to push it out of kerbin system
L263[18:36:27] <darsie> Definitely an option.
L264[18:36:41] <JVFoxy> not too sure on fuel requirement.. or that much charge. guess game scales up requirements further from home you go?
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L266[18:40:32] <darsie> I think reputation (?) influences the difficulty of contracts most and targets will be mostly what you already visited.
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L268[18:41:58] <JVFoxy> heh.. well suppose they could tone down the required amount of resources... I guess 'fuel depot' is one thing but... that much charge?
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L271[18:51:19] <Eddi|zuHause> i had a contract for 6000LF in orbit of the mun
L272[18:51:25] <Eddi|zuHause> that took me foreer
L273[18:51:29] <Eddi|zuHause> forever
L274[18:52:11] <JVFoxy> how was the returns?
L275[18:52:17] <JVFoxy> worth it or?
L276[18:53:18] <darsie> I'm pretty sure there are faster ways to make money/science.
L277[18:53:35] <UmbralRaptor> Mass-wise, that's less than an orange tank (though in reality you'd need 2 or 3?)
L278[18:54:24] <darsie> Shall I tell you the best money/science makers?
L279[18:54:45] <UmbralRaptor> Ah, they have 2880 fuel, so oxidizer drained ones would be silly.
L280[18:55:00] <UmbralRaptor> darsie: I assume science sats still?
L281[18:55:00] <JVFoxy> odd it just asks for fuel.. not both fuel and oxy
L282[18:55:19] <JVFoxy> guessing they preparing for nuke powered engines to be puttering around the place?
L283[18:55:52] <JVFoxy> and if its just fuel... stupid you can't just drain oxy and replace with more fuel
L284[18:56:20] <Eddi|zuHause> there's a mod for that
L285[18:56:56] <darsie> Best money/science makers (decode with ROT13): orfg zbarl: svaq uvtuyl vapyvarq nfgrebvqf guerngravat Xreova jvgu na VE pnzren. Orfg fpvrapr: cebprff fpvrapr ba Zvazhf jvgu n fpvrapr yno. Lbh znl bayl arrq gb ivfvg 4 ovbzrf gb svavfu gur grpu gererr.
L286[18:57:15] <JVFoxy> I know there are mods...
L287[18:57:27] <JVFoxy> considering making a list for when I drop into the latest..
L288[18:57:54] <darsie> https://www.rot13.com/
L289[18:58:38] <Eddi|zuHause> you should encode with rot13 twice for extra security
L290[18:58:47] <darsie> :)
L291[19:00:05] <KrazyKrl> obfuscation <> security
L292[19:00:19] <darsie> gn
L293[19:01:00] <JVFoxy> I had a basic program, could use a key word to scramble stuff.... use same key word and teh garbage it spat out, which decoded it back to original text
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L298[19:46:39] <JVFoxy> uff... so building this little one person crew lift craft. I've already put a parachute on it. AFK to get coffee, end up gone longer thane expected. Come back, try to remember what I was doing. Looking at the craft, see no chute. Go to make a quip about it on here, only to remember i buried the chute under the docking port jr.
L299[19:48:36] <JVFoxy> pilots have check lists.. people would say: pilot is lying if they say they are good at flying. Else they wouldn't be using check lists. Trouble is.. they miss the point. Checklist isn't saying they are bad, its there as a measure so that nothing gets missed, what with so much going on.
L300[19:51:09] <Eddi|zuHause> who ever said that?
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L303[19:53:58] <JVFoxy> get all kinds of things from people...some tend to think they know better than the people who do the actual work.
L304[19:56:01] <JVFoxy> these days, I'm hoping the perceptions people have of what it takes to fly safely, aviation in general, has gotten a little better than in the past...
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L306[19:58:10] <JVFoxy> Eddi|zuHause lets just say... I've come across a few things in the past. Is just one perception about checklists.
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L331[23:24:11] <JVFoxy> grumble...
L332[23:24:38] <JVFoxy> go to meet up with orbital station, instead ended up flying to an orbiting bit of space junk
L333[23:25:03] <JVFoxy> bright side... at least LF boosters did pretty descent job
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L336[23:55:44] <JVFoxy> .... there a bug when it comes to building stations in kerbin orbit?
L337[23:56:08] <Althego> what kind
L338[23:56:12] <JVFoxy> contract isn't completing... I launched a station, then set a pilot up in a seperate ship. contract taken before station was built.
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L340[23:56:38] <JVFoxy> wants kerbin orbit, one pilot, 5 kerbals, stablity for 10 seconds
L341[23:56:40] <Althego> somehthing is missing? arent those checkmarks showing what is there?
L342[23:56:50] <JVFoxy> all check marks.. contract wont' complete
L343[23:56:55] <Althego> lol
L344[23:57:09] <Althego> then you can just force it complete from the debug menu
L345[23:59:55] <JVFoxy> also wants docking port, antenna, power generation... those I got too.
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