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L20[02:56:56] <kmath> YouTube - Astronauts
Escape Failing Rocket - Soyuz Did Not Go To Space Today
L21[03:02:57] <Blaank> >why didn't they
revert to launch
L22[03:04:23] <Althego> hehe
L23[03:05:02] <Blaank> So that bit of early
debris I pointed out was the LES jettisoning before the MECO.
L24[03:05:25] <Blaank> The korolev cross
being lopsided correlated to a white cloud coming out of the
booster.
L25[03:05:37] <Blaank> And then there was
zero thrust from second stage.
L26[03:05:53] <Blaank> booster and second
stage collision seems likely.
L27[03:06:11] <Blaank> 3 of the boosters
looked right, 1 was lopsided.
L28[03:06:27] <Althego> you mean it flew
into the rocket?
L29[03:06:31] <Blaank> Maybe
L30[03:06:37] <Althego> that shouldnt
happen...
L31[03:06:37] <Blaank> It would explain
what we saw.
L32[03:06:50] <Althego> the boosters simply
fall out because they lose thrust and the core still has
thrust
L33[03:06:55] <Blaank> What separation
method does the soyuz use for boosters?
L34[03:07:13] <Althego> so if they fell
already how could it gain speed again?
L35[03:07:31] <Blaank> Do boosters burn out
before main engine?
L36[03:07:42] <Althego> that is the point
of having a core
L37[03:07:56] <Blaank> Then there is no way
the boosters could hit the second stage.
L38[03:08:07] <Althego> he boosters
together have more thrust so they press into the core, when they
lose thrust they fall out
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L40[03:09:25] <Blaank> The boosters aren't
tall enough to get to the second stage and if first stage still had
thrust there is no way the boosters could touch the second
stage.
L41[03:09:41] <Blaank> So collision with
second stage has been ruled out.
L42[03:10:29] <Blaank> booster collision
with first stage is possible but how would that prevent second
stage from working? Booster separation going wrong and damaging the
second stage is possible.
L43[03:10:42] <Blaank> Depends on the
method used to separate them.
L44[03:11:08] <Blaank> If for example they
used sepratrons and one of them exploded it could send shrapnel
into the second stage.
L45[03:11:23] <GlsFrg|phone> so in an
interesting new development on the Japanese 50/60Hz power grid
thing, Tokyo Metro will from next year on run trains equipped with
60Hz outlets through 50Hz land
L46[03:12:17] <Blaank> Does the 60 hz power
grid have anything to do with 60 hz led monitors?
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L48[03:16:58] <GlsFrg|phone> wouldn't those
use direct current internally anyway?
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L50[03:17:46] <Blaank> They do.
L51[03:18:10] <Epi> our grid here is 50hz,
windows says my monitor is at 60hz.. but I don't trust it :D
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L53[03:19:52] <darsie> Blaank: 60 Hz
countries may preferably produce 60/n Hz content which is more
suitable for 60 Hz monitors.
L54[03:19:53] <Gasher[work]> Blaank,
according to what i read it might have been a pressure release
valve which is used to drain gas evaporating in oxydised tank
L55[03:20:59] <Gasher[work]> it is then
closed right before the ignition and then opened to be used as
booster separation mechanism (i suppose one of them or part of it)
where it failed, causing botched booster separation
L56[03:21:16] <Gasher[work]> and hence,
collision. But that's one variant of the cause
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L59[03:29:28] <KrazyKrl> 60hz is one of the
most divisible values, and can pretty easily handle any framerate
with minimal processing.
L60[03:31:31] <KrazyKrl> (even though i'm
still attempting to drive my 1080p 60hz LCD to 75hz via a custom
resolution utility)
L61[03:34:43] <KrazyKrl> NTSC analog TV is
also 60i.
L62[03:34:44] <darsie> If you don't limit
yourself to integers 60 is no more divisible than 50.
L63[03:34:59] <KrazyKrl> PAL TV is
50i.
L64[03:35:23] <KrazyKrl> erm... interleaved
60 FPS, PAL is 50 FPS interleaved
L65[03:43:16] <sandbox> I hate 60hz
L66[03:50:09] <sandbox> I remember when my
school had a delivery of new apple macs and they were all set to
60hz and people started getting headaches
L67[03:51:24] <sandbox> I suggested
increasing it to 72hz and almost immediately the headaches went
away
L68[03:56:45] <sandbox> then when 60hz LCDs
started becoming popular, the media was all like "60hz isn't a
problem with LCDs" I disagreed, and still do
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L90[06:29:27] <Rolf> ohhh ywH'
L91[06:29:39] <Rolf> yeah faries lol
L92[06:30:13] <Rolf> what game is that
anyway
L93[06:30:19] <Eddi|zuHause>
starbound
L94[06:30:32] <Rolf> interesting
L95[06:38:16] <Gasher[work]> yeah also
thought its starbound
L96[06:39:28] <Althego> yhwh? :)
L97[06:39:50] <Gasher[work]> :)
L98[06:40:13] <Gasher[work]> Althego, no,
that's from SMT no Starbound
L99[06:40:50] <Eddi|zuHause> and here i was
sitting thinking yhwh is from the old testament...
L100[06:41:00] <Althego> what is smt in
this context? what is this context? i am not working with smt
currently :)
L101[06:41:09] <Althego> yes i wrote it
because of that
L103[06:41:38] <Althego> surface mount
technology
L104[06:41:54] <Althego> the uselessness
of tlas
L105[06:42:00] <Eddi|zuHause> apparently
SMT is the tram company of Palma de Mallorca
L106[06:42:18] <Eddi|zuHause> (according
to first google result)
L107[06:42:19] <Gasher[work]> starbound
and SMT are games that people i know used to play and stream, so
even though i am not interested in playing them i know about
them
L108[06:44:17] <Althego> hah, another flat
earth non sequitur
L109[06:44:36] <Althego> 3 hours...
L110[06:44:53] <Althego> even in double
speed it takes long
L111[06:45:10] <Rolf> what flat earth
stuff?
L112[06:45:28] <Rolf> I kinda wish theres
FKSP game :P
L113[06:45:34] <Rolf> flat kerbin space
program
L115[06:46:26] <Gasher[work]> Rolf, look
up for alpha version then
L116[06:46:27] <Rolf> bleh lousy videos
lol
L117[06:46:28] <Eddi|zuHause> in starbound
all planets are flat (and at the same time circular)
L118[06:46:49] <Rolf> is that nonecludian
flat sphere plants? lol
L119[06:46:52] <Althego> the videos are
not much, basically hangouts or whatever they are called
L120[06:46:54] <Eddi|zuHause> (and
2d)
L121[06:47:02] <Rolf> Gasher[work]: ya
played that, weird
L122[06:47:11] <Gasher[work]> oh
L123[06:47:24] <Rolf> I just wish theres
something like multimc for ksp
L124[06:47:29] <Rolf> can download any
version
L125[06:47:52] <Rolf> I played the FIRST
public release prealpha, it had only cobble and grass blocks
lol
L126[06:48:07] <Gasher[work]> wow
L127[06:48:23] <Rolf> if you has minecraft
acct you can try it out. lots fun versions
L128[06:48:40] <Rolf> incuding last beta
that has awesome worldgen
L129[06:48:41] <Althego> strange that as i
get older i find point and click adventure games more
interesting
L130[06:49:09] <Gasher[work]> Althego,
that's upcoming dementia :)
L131[06:49:16] <Althego> lol
L132[06:49:21] <Althego> i dont think
so
L133[06:49:27] <Rolf> Althego: heard of
MOTAS game?
L134[06:49:40] <Rolf> its old but amazing
click puzzle game
L135[06:50:23] <Althego> based on family
history i may have parkinson and heart attack when i am older, but
no dementia
L136[06:50:41] <Gasher[work]> well to each
their own
L138[06:51:09] <Althego> lol flash
L139[06:51:39] <Gasher[work]> never liked
quest games like that
L140[06:52:31] <Rolf> look at copyright
lol
L141[06:52:32] <Rolf> 2001
L142[06:52:46] <Rolf> I have played it few
times since its early version that was few levels shorter
L143[07:07:08] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Althego> based on family history i may have parkinson and
heart attack when i am older, but no dementia <-- you mean, you
have parkinson and heart attack BEFORE you get dementia :p
L144[07:07:31] <Althego> these are
independent
L145[07:20:31] <Eddi|zuHause> with these
things, it's generally a question of "what kills you
first"
L146[07:21:51] <Gasher[work]> it's usually
death that kills people
L147[07:25:24] <Althego> people die when
they are killed (meme)
L148[07:25:46] <UmbralRaptop> Scythe
wounds generally cause lots of problems
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L152[08:07:11] <Eddi|zuHause> does anyone
have a clue how to teach steam to not show event
notifications?
L153[08:07:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i found an
option to disable them in the feed, but the popups still happen
:/
L154[08:24:24] <GlassYuri> ...why does the
desktop version of youtube still not allow you to scroll to the
comments while keeping the video on screen somewhere
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L156[08:55:16] <Eddi|zuHause> in my
experience, reading the comments before the end of the video is a
terrible idea. and after the video it doesn't get much
better...
L157[08:56:11] <Eddi|zuHause> also,
there's no option to filter for comments that don't reference later
parts of the video
L158[08:56:14] <Althego> never read the
comments
L159[08:59:59] <Eddi|zuHause> what i find
a nice feature is on twitch recordings, you have also a recorded
chat that plays along, so even though you aren't watching it live,
you can see the comments other people had on that exact moment of
the video
L160[09:05:53] <GlassYuri> Eddi|zuHause,
youtube streams do the same
L161[09:06:32] <GlassYuri> except that
depending on how the layout flows, it shows a total of two chat
comments at once
L162[09:08:01] <GlassYuri> btw I forgot
what it was called but these layouts that gradually phonify when
screen width decreases can go die in a fire unless done
correctly
L163[09:09:17] <GlassYuri> you can hide
the menu behind a button when it is wider than the screen itself
but not at some random amount prescribed by your moronic frontend
framework
L164[09:10:32] <GlassYuri> I like to keep
my browser on one half of the screen, and so many websites dumb
themselves down to phone level if you do that
L165[09:10:37] <GlassYuri> sorry just had
to vent
L166[09:11:16] <Althego> hehe, it is the
reverse for me. it is pointless to have a browser bigger than half
of the screen because the sites themselves dont want to be wider,
just because webdesign is retarded
L167[09:13:49] <GlassYuri> Althego, why
not have both, sites that dumb down to regain space to waste on
white sidebars
L168[09:14:13] <Althego> hehe
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L171[09:18:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i use two
browsers, one for youtube with mostly full-width-content and one
for the rest of the internet with half-width content (and no
javascript, but that annoyingly works less and less)
L172[09:19:22] <Eddi|zuHause> say, news
websites or forums, which should be mostly text with some images
sprinkled in
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L177[09:33:45] <GlassYuri> Draconiator, I
thought by then they were over the more wings = better fad
L178[09:34:01] <Althego> hehe
L179[09:34:55] <Althego> looks like air
pirate planes from talespin
L180[09:34:56] <GlassYuri> seriously have
y'all seen the plane which had a massive amount of RC sized wings
stacked over each other
L183[09:36:29] <Althego> lol
L184[09:38:43] <GlassYuri> I guess it
could have some practical use as a window louver
L185[09:39:26] <GlassYuri> the biggest
issue with hanging an airplane in your living room other than sheer
size is justifying the cost and effort somehow
L186[09:39:27] <Mat2ch> space is hard. It
gets even harder if you try to use only LF to get there with a
spaceplane
L187[09:39:47] <Mat2ch> Needs more
Nervas
L188[09:40:08] <Althego> not practical
with current stock parts
L189[09:40:23] <Althego> unless it is
really small
L190[09:41:40] <Mat2ch> I can make one
with the MK2 parts
L191[09:41:51] <Mat2ch> but with MK3? No
good solution yet
L192[09:42:28] <Althego> yes but it wastes
a lot of fuel because of the heavy and low thrust nuclear
engines
L193[09:43:11] <Mat2ch> and with the MK2
parts I usually pack some oxidizer, too, to get up high enough.
Then the nervas can take over. I had one with 2k dV left, which is
pretty much for an SSTO
L194[09:43:31] <Althego> yes something
like that
L195[09:44:09] <GlassYuri> Mat2ch, take
the mk2 design and replace a few fuselage pieces with fatter ones
so that you can call it mk3
L196[09:45:14] <Mat2ch> what really
bothers me is that with the RAPIERs should be able to cruise over
30 km. But in air-breathing mode they're no better than the
whiplash
L197[09:45:30] <Mat2ch> GlassYuri: ruins
the whole balance of the craft ;)
L198[09:45:35] <Althego> they are
better
L199[09:45:42] <Mat2ch> but not much
L200[09:45:50] <Althego> about 5 km higher
and 200 m/s
L201[09:46:13] <GlassYuri> Mat2ch, nothing
a bit of depleted plutonium can't fix :)
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L204[09:47:29] <Mat2ch> But SABRE engines
shall work up to 1700 m/s and 26 km high
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L206[09:47:57] <Althego> no, not really,
about 1500 m/s the best you can get in a practical plane
L207[09:48:06] <Althego> 26 km is about
right
L208[09:48:26] <GlassYuri> *depleted
uranium
L209[09:48:31] <Mat2ch> But I can get
pretty similar values with the whiplashs :|
L210[09:48:38] <Althego> what would you do
with depleted uranium?
L211[09:48:49] <Althego> then something is
wrong, because those cant go that fast
L212[09:48:51] <GlassYuri> Althego, fix
the balancing
L213[09:50:04] <Althego> realistically you
cant really go faster than 1300 with the jets
L214[09:50:27] <Althego> maybe a bit
faster in a really high twr plane, but that wouldnt have fuel to
make into orbit
L215[09:50:36] <Mat2ch> " Top speed
is ~2,100 m/s in kerbins atmosphere" says the wiki about the
rapiers...
L216[09:50:40] <Mat2ch> never went so fast
;)
L217[09:51:14] <Althego> hehe, no, quite
impossible
L218[09:51:35] <Mat2ch> if you can get so
fast you're out of the atmosphere pretty fast...
L219[09:51:37] <Althego> because with mach
number you lose thrust really fast above what 5?
L220[09:51:45] <Mat2ch> 300 m/s left for a
nerva. That's nothing :P
L221[09:52:59] <Draconiator> Ehhhh back
then people overdid the more surface area = better maneuverability
thing...
L222[09:53:23] <Althego> around mach 5.5
for t he rapier
L223[09:55:10] <GlassYuri> ...my C drive
only has less than ten gigs left
L224[09:55:28] <Althego> so at mach 5 at
25 km whiplash produces around 0 thrust, while rapier still
produces something like 30 kN
L225[09:55:57] <Althego> but that is
marginal, probably not even keeping up with drag
L226[09:56:14] <Althego> so between 25 and
30 km you have to turn on the rockets
L227[09:58:56] <Althego> below mach 4 the
whiplash can beat the rapier in certain domains, like around mach 1
and below 15 km easily, but higher or faster and rapier wins, still
with rapidly degrading perofrmance above 25 km and mach 5
L228[09:59:21] <Draconiator> I made a
flying wing that can cruise at 1km/s at 15KM or so.
L229[09:59:46] <Althego> i made one that
could do around 1200 above 20
L230[10:00:39] <Draconiator> I'm loading
up KSP right now, I actually kind of forgot how it performs
heh
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L234[10:27:03] <Althego> when the dust
storm hit i was quite certain opportunity would survive, but now
hope is fading
L236[10:33:17] <Althego> what engine is
that? i assume there even with the whiplash you can do that
L237[10:33:45] <Althego> but as i said,
light plane, not orbit capable, so not realistic case for an
ssto
L238[10:34:58] <Draconiator>
Whiplash
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L243[11:32:53] <kmath> YouTube - Soyuz
MS-10 Failure - Updates & Answers To Your Questions
L244[11:32:59] <Althego> hah, got it at 29
views
L245[11:33:01] <Althego> 39
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L256[12:15:17] <Ezko> congratulations
Althego
L257[12:17:13] <petti> I will never
understand the firster-views-counting-crowd. Nor do I want
to.
L258[12:17:36] <Althego> i was just
surprised usually dont see it until after 3000
L259[12:17:43] <Althego> or even like 22
hours later
L260[12:17:51] <petti> I just watch the
video.
L261[12:18:17] <Althego> because he
uploads it just after i go to bed, then i go to work next morning,
and next evening i get back to his almost day old video
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L263[12:19:39] <Althego> i think it is
time to try syberia
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L265[12:23:42] <Althego> hehehe
L266[12:23:44] <Althego> true
L267[12:29:50] <Althego> heh. 3d rendering
engine could not be initialized
L268[12:30:47] <Althego> lol must decrease
resolution manually
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L282[13:09:18] <ag2v> anyone here use
principia?
L283[13:09:30] <ag2v> just installed it on
my rss game
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L286[13:32:22] <darsie> ag2v: How is
it?
L287[13:32:36] <darsie> Went to an
L-point?
L288[13:32:47] <ag2v> i got pulled away a
bit, ill have to try it later
L289[13:32:55] <ag2v> any suggestions for
it?
L290[13:33:02] <darsie> I never tried
it.
L291[13:33:41] <ag2v> i have 3 installs of
ksp right now, this one im trying to make as realistic as
possible
L292[13:33:58] <ag2v> i forgot to download
ferram aerospace though
L293[13:34:17] <ag2v> any other mods i
should try?
L294[13:34:45] <darsie> what KSP
version?
L295[13:35:08] <ag2v> 1.4.5 i think it is,
whatever the current version is
L296[13:35:21] <ag2v> ive found that
incompatible mods still work though
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L299[13:41:55] <ag2v> im not sure whether
or not i want to try life support mods
L300[13:42:14] <ag2v> i guess i could
always uninstall if i dont like it
L301[13:43:25] <DFrostedWang> I'd give
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L302[13:43:57] <Mat2ch> well, they're
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long the stuff lasts
L303[13:44:03] <Mat2ch> so it's pretty
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L304[13:44:10] <ag2v> kerbalism seems
interesting
L305[13:44:46] <ag2v> i think i will do
that, i always have my 2 other ksp installs lol
L306[13:45:02] <ag2v> one for rss and lots
of realism, one for stock solar system, one for gpp
L307[13:45:30] <ag2v> is kerbalism on
ckan?
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L401[20:42:48] <ag2v> update on principia:
it seems to have a huge effect on my fps
L402[20:43:02] <ag2v> im gonna have to
uninstall it :(
L403[20:45:26] <TheKosmonaut> ag2v: it can
be a pretty intensive mod
L404[20:45:42] <TheKosmonaut> But maybe
check and see if there’s some errors being thrown around
L405[20:46:14] <Eddi|zuHause> is there
meanwhile an update for FAR to make it work on 1.4.x?
L406[20:46:45] <Eddi|zuHause> because when
i last tried the old version, i got like 0fps
L407[20:47:07] <ag2v> no errors, it's my
hardware
L408[20:47:11] <Eddi|zuHause> (as opposed
to 3-4 :p)
L409[20:47:19] <ag2v> amd a6-7400k and gt
740
L410[20:47:20] <ag2v> lol
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L413[21:12:41] <SilverFox> oh great are we
back to this stuff?
L414[21:13:53] <Mutter_> Good app
L415[21:14:04] <Mutter_> Walk and earn
money
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Mutter_!*@*
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L419[21:24:19] <ag2v> so im in a chan on
geekshed
L420[21:24:25] <ag2v> and we have some
bots too
L421[21:24:35] <ag2v> all in the format
genericfemalename_number
L422[21:25:01] <ag2v> they join and
immediately say Hi!/Hey!/Im here.
L423[21:25:04] <ag2v> and then leave
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L433[22:02:50] <TheKosmonaut>
stupid_chris: still stupid over there?
L434[22:02:59] <stupid_chris>
absolutely
L435[22:03:17] <stupid_chris> hows my
favourite hellfest been going all this time?
L436[22:03:56] <TheKosmonaut> Implying I’m
not just ghosting this entire community
L437[22:04:37] <TheKosmonaut> I have been
too busy with work. I think I probably have checked irc once every
other day at best and the forum once a month
L438[22:05:21] <stupid_chris> mostly meant
hows the Squad sh- uh right, language. How's the Squad circus been
going?
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L445[23:48:03] <kmath> YouTube - LITTLE
BIG – SKIBIDI (official music video)