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L23[02:13:42] <GlassYuri> "create an account with an active .edu email address." apparently the crime of not living in the united states still disqualifies you from student discounts
L24[02:14:18] <GlassYuri> I mean not living in the united states may in itself be the biggest student discount ever but
L25[02:19:01] <Althego> hehe
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L35[03:23:58] <Epi> GlassYuri ^ .edu can be given also outside of the us
L36[03:25:01] <GlassYuri> Epi, and how often does that really happen
L37[03:26:08] <NolanSyKinsley> Anyone else watching the soyuz launch?
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L40[03:36:01] <Epi> all the big universities do it here
L41[03:37:03] <Althego> good that you reminded me
L42[03:37:10] <Althego> i forgot it since yesterday
L43[03:37:32] <Epi> if it's a '.edu' instead of '.edu.topLevelDomain' well, yeah I guess it's only the States
L44[03:45:13] <Althego> they mentioned some failure
L45[03:45:20] <Althego> but apparently it is still working
L46[03:46:41] <Althego> at times like these i really would like to understand russian
L47[03:47:03] <Althego> whatever happened, scott is going to make a video of it in a day :)
L48[03:49:04] <Althego> hehe, any time i would hear what the issue is, the stream cuts out
L49[03:49:21] <NolanSyKinsley> some sort of booster failure, but they still made orbit
L50[03:49:27] <Gasher[work]> they removed one of the crew
L51[03:51:07] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
L52[03:51:07] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV
L53[03:51:16] <Althego> this stream works, the one from nextrocket doesnt
L54[03:55:03] <Althego> ballistic descent
L55[03:55:38] <Althego> that is hard
L56[03:55:50] <Althego> they are going to remember this
L57[03:56:03] <Gasher[work]> what
L58[03:56:04] <Althego> poor guy first trip is an abort
L59[03:56:22] <Gasher[work]> wait, it should be the first aborted launch since ever?
L60[03:57:16] <sandbox> moonmoon
L61[03:57:19] <Gasher[work]> ooo
L62[03:58:41] <Gasher[work]> i suppose now it would be good if they manage to survive
L63[04:00:19] <bees> g-forces are not that big with that speed
L64[04:00:43] <bees> crew told that max g-force was 6-7g and it was decreasing before loss of contact
L65[04:00:46] <Gasher[work]> i mean if booster failed then anything else could
L66[04:01:18] <Althego> where do they fall to?
L67[04:02:02] <bees> kazakhstan probably
L68[04:02:34] <bees> ~200-500 km away
L69[04:03:57] <bees> proton first stage falls at 320km
L70[04:04:01] <bees> idk about soyuz
L71[04:05:31] <bees> yeah, center of kazakhstan, same flat land
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L73[04:07:28] <Althego> i guess it is a bit lucky that the launch is from the old site, not from the new one
L74[04:07:35] <Althego> because that would abort to the ocean
L75[04:08:12] <Gasher[work]> there are lakes here and there in there
L76[04:08:21] <Gasher[work]> there was at least one landing in a lake
L77[04:08:37] <Althego> i remember there was a case when the capsule arrived to a lacke upside down and they almost suffocated
L78[04:09:09] <bees> chute opened (c) our news
L79[04:09:23] <Althego> where did you get that from?
L80[04:09:31] <Althego> this lack of information is killing me
L81[04:09:39] <Gasher[work]> bees, thank heavens
L82[04:09:56] <bees> descent module landed (c) our news
L83[04:10:13] <Gasher[work]> uh-hu
L84[04:10:22] <Althego> that was fast
L85[04:10:24] <Gasher[work]> "It sunk" (c)
L86[04:11:00] <Althego> cant really
L87[04:12:00] <bees> there are a lake nearby
L88[04:12:17] <Althego> cant sink, hermetically sealed :9
L89[04:12:27] <Althego> with air inside
L90[04:12:47] <Gasher[work]> what
L91[04:13:16] <Gasher[work]> sealed so what? it might be heavier than mass of its water volume mass
L92[04:13:25] <Althego> it isnt
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L94[04:14:21] <bees> ...space hardware is really light
L95[04:20:13] <Althego> and not much remains on it
L96[04:20:22] <Althego> before landing
L97[04:20:33] <Althego> so it is basically a huge air bubble
L98[04:21:02] <Althego> everything is ok with crew
L99[04:21:08] <Gasher[work]> also what'd happen to the second stage
L100[04:21:19] <Althego> fall down somewhere
L101[04:21:29] <Althego> probably not too far
L102[04:21:35] <VanDisaster> I believe the non TLD academic domain is ac.<country> generally
L103[04:22:10] <VanDisaster> I can think of countries that don't, yes :P
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L114[05:45:07] <sandbox> landed safely
L115[05:46:03] <Althego> the soyuz?
L116[05:46:08] <Althego> an hour ago :)
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L121[06:18:43] <pixelfox> anyone type ?
L122[06:19:55] <Althego> NoneType has no attribute named anyone
L123[06:19:56] <Gasher[work]> type what?
L124[06:26:06] <pixelfox> yay
L125[06:26:08] <pixelfox> lol
L126[06:26:25] <pixelfox> anyone use kspie ?
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L129[07:15:05] <Blaank> I just heard about the soyuz thing. any links to good video of it?
L130[07:15:59] <Azander> Haven't found any yet :(
L131[07:16:22] <Blaank> second stage failure.
L132[07:16:55] <Azander> yeah :/
L133[07:17:07] <Blaank> shutdown sounds like. Not catastrophic.
L134[07:17:24] <Azander> Looked very Kerbal to me... since I've had to use my escape system several times with that exact scenario many times :(
L135[07:17:28] <Blaank> But the soyuz has aborts throughout luanch.
L136[07:18:30] <Blaank> If I had to guess, second stage shutdown, third stage ignition, full gimbal and burn 90 degrees to the second stage, jettison capsule, fire drogue.
L137[07:19:09] <Blaank> hmm.... atmospheric forces, you can't pull KSP maneuvers in atmos.
L138[07:19:17] <Blaank> I think scott will cover it.
L139[07:19:23] <Gasher[work]> no
L140[07:19:44] <Blaank> I don't know the abort mode of second stage failure at 90 seconds.
L141[07:20:01] <Blaank> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_abort_modes
L142[07:20:08] <Gasher[work]> first stage burnout, second stage did not start, separation from the second stage then separation of the crew module and ballistic descend
L143[07:21:01] <Blaank> Ah
L144[07:21:07] <Gasher[work]> i guess we would know the full sequence of what happened soon
L145[07:21:20] <Blaank> first stage being the core, right? I guess boosters are 0th stage?
L146[07:21:46] <Blaank> I know from KSP you don't want to decouple and then get pinned to the front of a lawn dart.
L147[07:21:49] <Blaank> I've had that happen.
L148[07:21:53] <Gasher[work]> yes
L149[07:22:16] <Gasher[work]> first stage is the core and there are 4 boosters, from what i read tower separates with boosters or soon after
L150[07:23:03] <Gasher[work]> i suppose they need the tower's thrust in the atmosphere only
L151[07:23:13] <Gasher[work]> to detach the crew module
L152[07:23:28] <Blaank> Yeah, if at enough altitude they could even use the RCS to gain distance.
L153[07:23:49] <Blaank> WEll... dynamic pressure.
L154[07:24:00] <Blaank> fast and high has as much drag as low and slow.
L155[07:24:43] <Blaank> No detailed abort plan in the wikipedia article.
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L157[07:26:33] <Gasher[work]> yes damn
L158[07:26:43] <Gasher[work]> i had to look it up
L159[07:28:27] <Gasher[work]> Blaank, http://galspace.spb.ru/orbita/16.file/2b.jpg
L160[07:28:32] <Blaank> So second stage failure to ignition is what do?
L161[07:29:06] <Blaank> Ok, decouple orbital module, burn away, re-enter somewhat normally.
L162[07:29:06] <Gasher[work]> seems so and also NASA says there was issue with booster separation
L163[07:29:14] <Gasher[work]> no burning away
L164[07:29:20] <Gasher[work]> no re-entry lol
L165[07:29:24] <Blaank> orbital module does have some thrusters, right?
L166[07:29:28] <Gasher[work]> cause there was no getting to the orbit
L167[07:29:42] <Blaank> I mean it has to.
L168[07:29:51] <Blaank> Otherwise it couldn't de-orbit.
L169[07:35:44] <Althego> actually i noticed at the separation that there was no korolev cross
L170[07:35:51] <Althego> which i think should be normally visible
L171[07:36:10] <Althego> the boosters were just wildly moving around kerbal style
L172[07:36:12] <Blaank> It almost always is.
L173[07:36:19] <Althego> not the smooth coordinated rotation
L174[07:36:21] <Blaank> They do a nice flip.
L175[07:37:06] <Blaank> They did look kind a funky when they came off.
L176[07:37:10] <Blaank> I don't have a good video of it.
L177[07:39:24] <Blaank> https://youtu.be/ib_5qDr7uIM?t=1646 some debris coming off the bottom
L178[07:39:56] <Blaank> Yeah, the korolev cross was very lopsided.
L179[07:40:01] <Blaank> Might be point of view.
L180[07:40:52] <Blaank> I don't speak russian so I have no idea what they are saying in the background.
L181[07:41:19] <Gasher[work]> Althego, yeaht that's also mentioned
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L188[07:59:15] <Althego> eve irl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVmra_aBijI
L189[07:59:15] <kmath> YouTube - CREEPY: Purple clouds hover over Lake City after Hurricane Michael
L190[07:59:43] <Gasher[work]> Althego, all hail the glow cloud
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L193[08:04:25] <oren> Althego: lol scatterer bug
L194[08:19:39] <GlassYuri> I feel so dumb now
L195[08:20:11] <GlassYuri> I was playing a game I made last year and tried to exploit a bug
L196[08:20:22] <GlassYuri> only to find that I had actually fixed it
L197[08:21:46] <Gasher[work]> lol
L198[08:21:56] <Althego> hehe
L199[08:22:43] <Althego> do you often play with your own games?
L200[08:23:19] <GlassYuri> and I had to spend over ten minutes performing repeated actions in really horrible UI
L201[08:23:41] <Blaank> Why did you make a horrible UI?
L202[08:23:56] <GlassYuri> I swear within a week of submitting that thing I had a revelation about how the menus should have been done
L203[08:24:32] <GlassYuri> Blaank, accidentally pushing the limits of a visual novel engine
L204[08:26:46] <Blaank> I don't think I'm ever going to get Making History because that would mean supporting Take Two Interactive who destroyed GTA and RDR.
L205[08:27:00] <GlassYuri> Althego, if by playing you mean starting the thing up and immediately hitting a missing feature, writing a few lines of code and giving up, then yes
L206[08:27:34] <Blaank> I wonder if Scott Manley will recreate the failure in KSP.
L207[08:27:45] <Blaank> It's always neat when he does that.
L208[08:28:14] <Althego> he has to :)
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L210[08:35:50] <GlassYuri> the bug btw is kinda hilarious, there is an event where you give medical assistance to an opponent's party and the victory conditions is that they don't have anyone with a health value under 80%
L211[08:36:08] <GlassYuri> you may see now where this is going
L212[08:38:09] <GlassYuri> failed skill checks have a risk to injure a character so if you use the opponent's most injured character to repeatedly attempt to heal someone they have no chance of succeeding on, you can kill them off that way
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L220[09:19:12] <sandbox> https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1050386580928520192
L221[09:19:12] <kmath> <DJSnM> Boy, I guess I should have stayed up to watch Soyuz last night.
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L225[09:23:31] <Althego> hehe https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1050386580928520192
L226[09:23:31] <kmath> <DJSnM> Boy, I guess I should have stayed up to watch Soyuz last night.
L227[09:23:46] <Althego> (scott)
L228[09:24:05] <Althego> also the horrible pun that is pinned...
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L232[09:48:04] <sandbox> https://twitter.com/kNewsSpace/status/1050392575134392321
L233[09:48:04] <kmath> <kNewsSpace> @DJSnM NASA cut the video differently than the russian stream. Here the cloud that formed at around booster sep. Zo… https://t.co/qrK0hKOSIm
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L252[11:10:15] <Fluburtur> I should get myself this for whristmas https://www.banggood.com/Dynam-Messerschmitt-BF-110-V2-1500mm-Wingspan-EPO-Fighter-Warbird-RC-Airplane-PNP-DY8963-p-1249401.html?rmmds=category
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L254[11:44:24] <Althego> some explanation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCJe694E1zA
L255[11:44:24] <kmath> YouTube - Soyuz MS 10 abort explained
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L268[12:58:40] <sandbox> Scott's video is up
L269[12:59:09] <Althego> hehe hit it at 100 views
L270[12:59:13] <Althego> 1000
L271[13:04:07] <sandbox> is someone sabotaging their stuff?
L272[13:04:12] <JVFoxy> ... mr popular huh?
L273[13:04:35] <Althego> he has 750k subscribers after all
L274[13:05:02] <sandbox> he is Scottish after all
L275[13:05:18] <JVFoxy> oh....
L276[13:05:19] <JVFoxy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwnLFKfuBE
L277[13:05:19] <kmath> YouTube - Crew Safe After Soyuz Launch Abort
L278[13:05:39] <JVFoxy> had my youtube home page up for a bit. Didn't really notice this one till you mentioned scott :\
L279[13:11:13] <Althego> what other video about new glenn?
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L283[13:24:38] * darsie flew to Gilly with a small rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot85.png
L284[13:25:50] <Althego> nice
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L286[13:26:00] <Althego> probably could be smaller with the use of a jet in the first stage
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L289[13:26:54] <Althego> hehe i didnt know deal with it pixelated glasses are sold
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L291[13:29:49] <darsie> what?
L292[13:30:01] <darsie> hmm, ok.
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L295[14:13:25] <Althego> https://youtu.be/ZFGxnF9SqDE
L296[14:13:26] <kmath> YouTube - Precise Hopping with Salto-1P
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L306[14:55:33] <Draconiator> I for some reason wanna hide a 3.5 floppy disk somewhere conspicuous with a label that says....something weird. lol
L307[14:57:33] <SnoopJeDi> novel_draft_sep1993.txt plans_for_world_domination.txt recipes/
L308[14:59:55] <UmbralRaptop> "Trident verification telemetry"
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L310[15:02:25] <SnoopJeDi> Duke Nukem 4
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L312[15:07:30] <UmbralRaptop> Sounds anachronistic, perhaps a CD instead?
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L322[16:47:00] <Fluburtur> my dude in gta5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231106102693986314/500061699102081025/20181011231434_1.jpg
L323[16:47:04] <Fluburtur> it looks a bit like me
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L341[19:07:41] <Draconiator> Whew that Soyuz 10 could have gone a whole other way...
L342[19:10:16] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot86.png
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L356[20:59:55] <UmbralRaptop> https://twitter.com/IridiumBoss/status/1050561093683372032
L357[20:59:56] <kmath> <IridiumBoss> Of the 66 in the constellation before we started launching Iridium NEXT satellites and replacing them one by one, t… https://t.co/G5xFMVpojg
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