OCLogs: 2018-08-17.log

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L58[07:13:33] <suclearnub> What's the average time for a Duna transit + waiting for the window back + transit back to Kerbin?

L59[07:14:43] <Gasher[work]> i think there was window calculator

L60[07:15:17] <suclearnub> cheers

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L62[07:26:54] <Eddi|zuHause> the dv map in the topic should have some rough numbers

L63[07:27:36] <suclearnub> 2y...

L64[07:27:37] <suclearnub> good god

L65[07:27:42] <suclearnub> i need to redesign my ships

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L67[07:28:11] <Althego> hehe

L68[07:29:17] <Eddi|zuHause> are there people who play the game in "real time"? (never using time warp)

L69[07:29:24] <Althego> hehe

L70[07:29:30] <Althego> i think there was somebody doing that

L71[07:29:35] <Althego> kept running some old version

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L73[07:32:15] <Eddi|zuHause> game complains at start that KJR mod is broken, and a few others are outdated

L74[07:32:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i still don't know if FAR still works

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L76[07:36:22] <Eddi|zuHause> game still impossibly slow

L77[07:37:35] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it's one of the broken mods?

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L79[07:45:15] <Eddi|zuHause> takes about 15 seconds of real time to calculate 1 second of game time...

L80[07:45:42] <Eddi|zuHause> it wasn't like that last time i played (1.3.1 i think)

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L82[08:05:06] <Eddi|zuHause> getting a lot of: "Field '.ModuleJettison.JettisonTransform' not found"

L83[08:06:29] <Eddi|zuHause> and lots of time spent in momo_mempool_alloc0

L84[08:08:24] <Eddi|zuHause> that error does seem to come from FAR

L85[08:08:42] <Eddi|zuHause> at least that's the only reference to JettisonTransform that i can find

L86[08:14:14] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, after uninstalling FAR it's far better (still not "good", but not 15:1, more like 2:1 now)

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L88[08:15:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i should stop trying to press space bar to pause the game :/

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L90[08:22:33] <UmbralRaptop> uh

L91[08:24:16] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: EU4 uses space to pause, I make a lot of mistakes when going back and forth between the two games

L92[08:32:23] <Eddi|zuHause> yes

L93[08:32:55] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, so which was the button to switch vessels in flight?

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L95[08:33:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i absolutely hate that you cannot view/set keybindings in the game

L96[08:34:42] <TheKosmonaut> []

L97[08:35:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably remapped those

L98[08:35:20] <Lumindia> bird up

L99[08:36:55] <UmbralRaptop> ??

L100[08:37:19] <Lumindia> ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

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L106[08:41:45] <UmbralRaptop> … not turning that emoticon into emoji

L107[08:44:52] <suclearnub> Gotta put 2 years of life support in this darn ship...

L108[08:45:55] <UmbralRaptop> suclearnub: does it being 2 kerbal years help?

L109[08:46:31] <suclearnub> Still pretty long...

L110[08:46:59] <suclearnub> The best ship interplanetary ship I can make has 3.3km/s of dV with that much life support stuff

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L112[08:55:46] <Eddi|zuHause> aw man, and immediately i'm at the stage where i'm annoyed by the game again, sorry no KSP :/

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L121[09:33:23] <GlassYuri> science fiction idea: space battles back-ported to the ocean using hovering warships and ground effect aircraft

L122[09:34:13] <Althego> a real space battle would be 3d not 2d

L123[09:34:45] <Fluburtur> my friend at banggood sent me a free fpv transmitter

L124[09:35:36] <Fluburtur> this means I will put FPV in the vg33

L125[09:35:41] <Fluburtur> which is still broke

L126[09:35:59] <Althego> or rather broken

L127[09:36:01] <Althego> you are broke :)

L128[09:36:13] <Fluburtur> im not broke anymore, I have a job

L129[09:36:50] <Althego> and dont have free time

L130[09:36:54] <Fluburtur> yeah

L131[09:37:02] <Fluburtur> I have weekends, that's all

L132[09:37:13] <Fluburtur> and I need to re-design the nose of the vg33 again

L133[09:37:26] <Fluburtur> as well as make a new hatch to put the fpv crap in

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L138[10:00:19] <GlassYuri> Althego, so if you put on ocean under it, there is reason for it to be 2d but because of the hovering ships, not fully 2d

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L141[10:21:17] <Eddi|zuHause> when it says "target at Xkm in Ymin, est burn 4s" in which direction is that burn assumed to be?

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L148[10:34:26] <hoglahoo> in the direction of the manuever marker on the navball, I presume? I don’t think I’ve seen that target info before, only estimated burn

L149[10:34:27] <Wastl4> Eddi: towards the maneuver marker on your navball.

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L153[10:48:07] <Eddi|zuHause> there is no maneuver

L154[10:48:14] <Eddi|zuHause> it's some automatic calculation

L155[10:48:15] <Althego> and no spoon

L156[10:48:17] <Eddi|zuHause> i think by KER

L157[10:48:40] <Althego> what do kerbals eat?

L158[10:49:16] <Epi> space

L159[10:49:29] <Eddi|zuHause> snacks!

L160[10:49:40] <Althego> yes, snacks, but what are they

L161[10:50:14] <Epi> they are from Kerbin :)

L162[10:50:46] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/a7FakY1P/Iroquois%20Imperial%20Influence

L163[10:51:08] <TheKosmonaut> My iroquois run is going really well

L164[10:51:10] <Althego> hehe

L165[10:51:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i was playing congo

L166[10:51:36] <Eddi|zuHause> it went well, until i had two coalition wars simultaneously

L167[10:51:51] <TheKosmonaut> Note that I also control the northern bit of Japan (minus Ainu/Hokkaido)

L168[10:51:52] <Eddi|zuHause> because all the expansion possibilities i had were sunni countries

L169[10:52:01] <TheKosmonaut> Empire of Mexico and Republic of Cuba are also mine

L170[10:52:08] <TheKosmonaut> Eddi|zuHause: How big of a coalition?

L171[10:52:14] <Eddi|zuHause> ottomans big

L172[10:52:35] <TheKosmonaut> at least there are no belgians

L173[10:52:55] <Althego> lo

L174[10:52:56] <Eddi|zuHause> ottomans (who have like 2x my army strength) plus a few smaller ones, and QQ (about equal) plus a few others

L175[10:53:05] <Althego> what is the problem with belgians

L176[10:53:06] <Eddi|zuHause> and both of them 1 army tech ahead

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L178[10:53:36] <Eddi|zuHause> and my two allies Mali and Ethiopia somewhat behind in tech

L179[10:53:59] <Eddi|zuHause> and i have a few vassals who are always on the brink of rebellion

L180[10:58:29] <Eddi|zuHause> problem with coalition wars is a) you don't gain anything by winning, b) you must reach 50% warscore to even sign a somewhat not-losing peace, c) that peace will be too short to recover any sort of AE

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L182[11:00:42] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/1d36a06dad28e1547b935f6bb34f9b22/tumblr_inline_olvpt3vowZ1s1eyan_540.jpg

L183[11:01:20] <Althego> how not to use a soap?

L184[11:01:27] <Eddi|zuHause> that is surely a situation where i go "hey, let's take out my phone in the hopes the photo will go viral"

L185[11:01:32] <Fluburtur> this way water already soapy

L186[11:01:43] <Fluburtur> then just go and roll in the puddle of soap water

L187[11:01:49] <Althego> lol

L188[11:04:06] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: Belgians really messed up the Congolese at some point in history

L189[11:04:34] <Eddi|zuHause> TheKosmonaut: not like any other european power would have acted much different

L190[11:05:08] <TheKosmonaut> Which is why I am playing Iroquois

L191[11:05:16] <TheKosmonaut> But, I think I'm becoming the villain

L192[11:05:31] <TheKosmonaut> I just entered an alliance w/ GB and am staging an invasion of France

L193[11:06:06] <TheKosmonaut> mostly because I wanna cut them down a peg and maybe clear the ONE french province off of N. America

L194[11:06:17] <Eddi|zuHause> sounds roughly like my game as cherokee

L195[11:07:32] <Eddi|zuHause> that was before the new "reduce tech multiplier by developing a province to 37-ish" mechanic

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L199[11:10:21] <Fluburtur> that looks like some of my landings

L200[11:10:29] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/QnJBMYC8ReA

L201[11:11:48] <Fluburtur> I wouldn't trust a plane using RC plane turbines, those are not meant for human fligyht

L202[11:11:55] <Fluburtur> they can have flamouts kinda easikly

L203[11:12:13] <Althego> ah this is the on that crashed

L204[11:12:30] <Althego> it has tiny engines

L205[11:13:23] <Fluburtur> yeah those are made for big rc jets

L206[11:14:33] <Fluburtur> also don't look at the comment, only expert air crash investigators that just don't care about the off-center thrust and crosswind

L207[11:15:31] <Althego> so why did it crash?

L208[11:15:41] <Fluburtur> left engine had a flameout

L209[11:15:50] <Eddi|zuHause> oh i'm out of snacks, must reach the space station fast...

L210[11:15:55] <Althego> how is that a reason to crash,

L211[11:16:02] <Althego> hehe

L212[11:16:05] <Fluburtur> combined with crosswind, it caused the plane to go to the right

L213[11:16:32] <Fluburtur> and one of those engines alone clearly doesn't have enough bens to keep an airplane of this size in the air

L214[11:17:13] <Althego> obviously

L215[11:17:21] <Fluburtur> also he went full deflection on aileros and rudders which caused to further lose airspeed, something he already didn't have much because he nearly stalled a few seconds before

L216[11:17:42] <Althego> but they are close enough to the center i wouldnt expect it to be uncontrollable to this extent

L217[11:17:56] <Fluburtur> still off center

L218[11:18:14] <Fluburtur> + crosswind

L219[11:19:50] <Fluburtur> if he had more airspeed he would probable still control it but he didn't have enough airspeed for controls to be affective

L220[11:20:02] <Althego> that makes sense

L221[11:20:11] <Althego> it is very slow with that little thrust

L222[11:20:20] <Althego> so controls are not very good

L223[11:20:51] <Fluburtur> when the engine went it he should have tried to land immediatly instead of gaining altitude

L224[11:21:05] <Fluburtur> but he was already gaining altitude for attempting a go around when the engine quit

L225[11:21:32] <Fluburtur> so I guess alnding in the soft wood shed was his best option by then

L226[11:21:58] <Fluburtur> you don't have much time to react and analyse everything in that kind of situation, even less when you are already a hard landing

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L231[11:43:23] <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose crash landing is an art form :p

L232[11:43:40] <Althego> and trolling is a art :)

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L235[11:49:20] <Eddi|zuHause> ok... so what were the KAS/KIS keys for attaching/detaching again?

L236[11:49:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i should have kept that manual i suppose

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L239[12:12:44] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, i have no clue what i did wrong now, it takes like a minute after switching to vessel before i get control over it

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L241[12:13:13] <Eddi|zuHause> crew images just show up as noise

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L258[14:00:55] <Althego> hmm dev notes

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L260[14:04:11] <Mat2ch> Althego: what do they say?

L261[14:04:19] <Mat2ch> I stopped reading a few month ago...

L262[14:04:31] <Althego> new space suites

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L264[14:06:07] <Mat2ch> But only for the expansion, I guess

L265[14:06:11] <Althego> nio

L266[14:06:22] <sandbox> weird

L267[14:06:27] <Althego> it seems 1.5 is mostly going to be bugfixes and graphical overhaul

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L269[14:09:45] <Draco12> HAAAAAA, nice name for a foorwear store - "The Boot Sector"

L270[14:10:38] <Althego> hehe

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L273[14:16:03] <Fluburtur> my friend told me the most savage insult yet

L274[14:16:30] <Fluburtur> "I would be shocked if modern science qualified you as a human"

L275[14:18:19] <Althego> hehe

L276[14:18:23] <Althego> why

L277[14:19:45] <Fluburtur> idk but we were both like "wow man that's hardcore"

L278[14:21:21] <UmbralRaptop> … are you sure you *want* to be human?

L279[14:21:34] <Fluburtur> not really

L280[14:21:37] <Althego> hehe

L281[14:21:44] <Althego> what do you want to be then

L282[14:22:01] <Fluburtur> idk

L283[14:22:14] <Althego> pistol shrimp

L284[14:22:34] <Althego> sees like 2 dozen colors and has a built in weapon

L285[14:22:50] <Fluburtur> I would be a dragon if I could because they are cool

L286[14:23:13] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466436709198856223/480092012939575337/kZRgVLBgkbYapEe775uU08c6iFeQHy-76G8onzQaeUQ.png

L287[14:24:14] <UmbralRaptop> Althego: serious answer: ill defined, but something that transcends human weaknesses, and can directly explore space.

L288[14:24:47] <UmbralRaptop> Silly answer: a dromeosaur tainted by the Moon's shadow

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L290[14:25:36] <Althego> taint mode is off by default

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L292[14:28:34] <UmbralRaptop> hrm. corrupted? yes, let's go with corrupted. >_>

L293[14:28:54] * UmbralRaptop waves at Malachite

L294[14:29:49] <UmbralRaptop> *sad trombone* https://tev.mit.edu/toi/

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L303[14:54:22] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/480102079487279138/2015-09-16_00002.jpg

L304[15:15:36] <Fluburtur> https://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?20039-Personal-Bests-V5-(LEADERBOARDS)&p=848026&viewfull=1#post848026

L305[15:15:53] <Fluburtur> this guy took a rc plane to 9km of altitude and his servos started freezing up

L306[15:17:38] <Rolf> almost looks like mario game there lol

L307[15:18:08] <Althego> hehe

L308[15:18:23] <Althego> video unavailable

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