OCLogs: 2018-08-15.log

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L1[00:04:01] <taniwha> JVFoxy: airbase

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L4[00:05:05] <JVFoxy> ya I was messing around with modules for the base...

L5[00:05:29] <JVFoxy> thinking if I really wanna get into it, I may have to get past my thing for stock only..

L6[00:05:45] <JVFoxy> well.. ok.. 'small thing'...

L7[00:05:57] <taniwha> could even build and launch vessels there (though you'd have to fly up crew and probably supplies)

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L9[00:08:13] <JVFoxy> interplanetary bases mod... or ... kerbinside. KS you don't need to actually fly stuff, but is option of making use of fuel tanks on base.

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L11[00:32:32] <JVFoxy> ah yes.. the trouble of trying to walk exactly over the north pole... kerbal just falls over, makes like its standing up with its face in the ground

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L13[00:44:54] <UmbralRaptop> cc: GlassYuri https://twitter.com/tmk815/status/1028976950683947013

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L15[00:50:04] <Arynnia> My current RO game is embarassing.

L16[00:50:22] <Arynnia> I have had 8 R-7 rockets and an Atlas not even leave the pad thanks to TestFlight causing ignition failures

L17[00:50:40] <Arynnia> 0 successes out of 9 flights

L18[00:52:11] <Arynnia> 0 out of 10*

L19[00:52:43] <Althego> hehe

L20[00:53:01] <Althego> it is like the early rockets in reality

L21[00:53:46] <Arynnia> I never had a launch failure before these 10 in a row

L22[00:53:51] <Arynnia> Not in this save

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L30[01:31:20] <GlassYuri> so the success to job hunting in japan is wearing a ww2 german submarine t-shirt to your job interviews

L31[01:31:27] <GlassYuri> *key to success

L32[01:31:49] <Althego> lol

L33[01:32:19] <UmbralRaptop> Submarine, or an anime personification thereof?

L34[01:32:28] <GlassYuri> I had two failed interviews without the u-boot and one successful with it

L35[01:32:55] <Althego> and not a ro-500 kantai collection t-shirt :)

L36[01:33:14] <GlassYuri> UmbralRaptop, image of preserved submarine

L37[01:33:35] <Althego> this is how religions are born, it must have been that thing

L38[01:35:05] <GlassYuri> I have another shirt of the same submarine which depicts it a bit more... agressively

L39[01:36:33] <GlassYuri> ...I did actually tweet a picture of the shirt https://twitter.com/glsfrg/status/1029233670144503809

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L64[05:41:49] <Loren> I have a question if anyone is here

L65[05:42:04] <Loren> I'm a beginner at KSP

L66[05:42:20] <Althego> the user 'anyone' is not here :)

L67[05:42:55] <Althego> just ask the question

L68[05:43:11] <Althego> but currently most people are either working or sleeping

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L70[05:45:53] <Loren> How would I calculate the kinetic energy change from a gravity assist boost?

L71[05:45:58] <Loren> thanks althego

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L73[05:46:33] <Mat2ch> Althego: you forgot those who're taking a week off and hang out in front of the computer. :D

L74[05:47:12] <Mat2ch> ugh, no math on vacation ;P

L75[05:47:53] <Althego> also no kmath on vacation

L76[05:48:30] <Althego> hehe, i never wanted to calculate that

L77[05:48:48] <Althego> spo you have to look it up in some wiki

L78[05:49:49] <Althego> but sfor playing the game it is not needed

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L83[06:16:43] <Loren> ok thank

L84[06:16:47] <Loren> you!.

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L86[06:33:16] <Fluburtur> I will go fly the plane later today

L87[06:33:25] <Mat2ch> \o/

L88[06:33:32] <Fluburtur> and my friend will be filming it so I might take the other radio so we can do dual controls

L89[06:33:39] <Fluburtur> it isn't too hard to fly so he could do it

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L91[06:43:25] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch should I do wings that slot into the sides or make both wings a solid piece that attaches under the plane

L92[06:43:56] <Fluburtur> haveing wing separate would save a lot of space because then I could pack it with the wings alongside the body so I could use smaller boxes

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L95[06:47:30] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: slotted wings and something sturdy to keep them on

L96[06:47:47] <Fluburtur> like double carbon spars?

L97[06:47:56] <Fluburtur> I had a plane that had that, worked very well

L98[06:51:15] <Mat2ch> yes, why not

L99[06:51:24] <Mat2ch> and you keep the wings in place with rubber bands

L100[06:51:48] <Mat2ch> slide the wings on and use rubber bands from one wing to the other

L101[06:52:09] <Fluburtur> the plane I had used screws to hold the wings in place

L102[06:52:10] <Mat2ch> a classic thing to do and works very well

L103[06:52:17] <Mat2ch> also rubber bands are cheap and easy to replace

L104[06:52:23] <Fluburtur> but over tightening it would cause the carbon tube to crack

L105[06:53:21] <Mat2ch> .oO( I'm currently watching all the videos of the Bush Bee Man and you have to read all my sentences with an aussie dialect in your head ;)

L106[06:53:32] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC0xzN4rrvqvNdZRGFPn-rg

L107[06:53:34] <Mat2ch> :D

L108[06:55:31] <Fluburtur> basically in this plane you have a fuselage box with holes and the spars slide into it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/479256687983853568/DSC_4347.JPG

L109[06:55:43] <Fluburtur> and the wings have slightly larger tubes so they slide into each other

L110[06:55:53] <Fluburtur> and I could store the plane like that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/479256714667884544/DSC_4494.JPG

L111[06:59:00] <Mat2ch> I'd go for something like that

L112[06:59:27] <Fluburtur> exept the wings could also slide out slightly so I have to improve the securing system

L113[06:59:40] <Fluburtur> maybe not a screw on the spar but maybe a hook

L114[06:59:49] <Fluburtur> inside of the plane

L115[06:59:57] <Mat2ch> maybe even with silicon bearings to make it more durable

L116[07:00:15] <Mat2ch> hm

L117[07:00:22] <Mat2ch> you could go for rubber bands on the inside

L118[07:00:26] <Fluburtur> nah carbon tubes slide into each other just fine

L119[07:00:34] <Fluburtur> eh rubber band probably won't cut it

L120[07:00:46] <Mat2ch> like two small hooks on each wing and you take a rubber band to hold the wings together

L121[07:01:09] <Mat2ch> there are wide strong ones.

L122[07:01:14] <Mat2ch> But you could also use springs

L123[07:01:39] <Fluburtur> I would prefer a more solid way of attaching that doesn't require special springs or consumables like rubebr bands

L124[07:01:43] <Mat2ch> two strong, but not too strong springs and that will hold together like they're glued

L125[07:03:10] <Fluburtur> so maybe when they slot, they go slighlty inside the fuselage cutouts because I can do that on this plane and have some sort of U shaped thing that holds both wings together

L126[07:03:31] <Fluburtur> having the wings as a single piece is usually more sturdy however

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L128[07:04:59] <Fluburtur> maybe I could ship the plane with the wings unassembled so then peoples can assemble it

L129[07:05:14] <Fluburtur> send them a tube of epoxy as well

L130[07:05:24] <Fluburtur> but for a pnp it is eh

L131[07:05:37] <Fluburtur> the plan is "slap a battery and receiver in there and go fly"

L132[07:05:50] <Fluburtur> but there isn't a single rc plane that doesn't need minimal assembly

L133[07:07:45] <Fluburtur> also the wings will have a lot of stuff inside so a single piec ewing would be better

L134[07:08:02] <Fluburtur> because ailerons, gears and flaps so then it could have only 3 connectors instead of 6

L135[07:08:36] <Fluburtur> but even with all that I can make it a 6 channels plane which is convenient

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L153[08:45:04] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ...

L154[08:45:15] * Rokker stares at war thunder operation summer pt 2

L155[08:48:53] <Fluburtur> wat

L156[08:52:16] <Rokker> Fluburtur: guided missiles

L157[08:52:28] <Fluburtur> yeah

L158[08:52:30] <Rokker> guided air to ground that is

L159[08:52:32] <Fluburtur> I want fouga magister

L160[08:52:38] <Rokker> no

L161[08:52:55] <Rokker> crappy french plane doesnt belong in game

L162[08:53:10] <Rokker> french tree in general doesnt belong in game

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L164[08:55:41] <Fluburtur> I want fouga magister

L165[08:55:47] <Fluburtur> woukd probably be really bad but it looks nice

L166[08:56:16] <Rokker> no it doesnt

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L168[08:56:21] <Rokker> ive seen one up close

L169[08:56:28] <Fluburtur> me too

L170[08:56:28] <Rokker> its as hideous as i thought it would be

L171[08:56:33] <Fluburtur> it looks nice

L172[08:57:11] <Rokker> you just want it because it would be one of the few french vehicles thats not american

L173[08:57:25] <Fluburtur> there is only one murikan jet tho

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L189[10:26:47] <Althego> old lady has a voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFDfrqvXPQg

L190[10:26:53] <Althego> still no bot eh

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L194[10:54:44] <Mat2ch> that tv in the back. :D

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L196[11:08:54] <Althego> what tv

L197[11:11:38] <Mat2ch> the monitor in the back, when they set up the engine

L198[11:12:56] <Althego> ah there really is

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L206[11:54:19] <Fluburtur> bad news, I smashed the nose of the VG-33 again

L207[11:55:02] <Fluburtur> good news, I used so little battery that we went to grab other planes and flew some FPV

L208[11:55:09] <Fluburtur> and some peoples came with quads and we talked a bit

L209[11:55:18] <Althego> and wintergatan

L210[11:55:23] <Fluburtur> yes that too

L211[11:55:26] <Althego> mangadex.org/

L212[11:55:27] <Fluburtur> happy martin

L213[11:55:29] <Althego> eh not this

L214[11:55:34] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0

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L216[12:01:47] <Althego> lol the shine on the metal

L217[12:03:19] <Althego> and possibly swearing

L218[12:06:45] <Fluburtur> swedish swearing is nice

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L220[12:08:30] <Althego> hehe gecko

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L223[12:10:21] <Althego> haha basket case

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L227[12:24:08] <BlackMoon> https://i.imgur.com/cGzxelN.jpg Umm ksp, thats not how physics work.. or landing gear...

L228[12:24:25] <BlackMoon> I should not magically wobble on one side of my landing gear when my COM is not enough to tip over...

L229[12:24:32] <Althego> hehe

L230[12:26:47] <BlackMoon> and its not even just tipping over, it actually stops and wobbles back

L231[12:26:58] <BlackMoon> retracting and extending landing gear again seems to have fixed it

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L235[12:31:50] <Althego> since 1.3? there are all these gear and leg issues

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L237[12:34:44] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/5c85baef390fbc1eef3452c6cad2cc1b/tumblr_omo1w7Us0q1t1ochmo8_540.png

L238[12:35:08] <Althego> hehe

L239[12:35:24] <Althego> you have to prepare for the zombie apocalypse first

L240[12:36:33] <Fluburtur> you mean there will be a zombie apocalypse before I am famous?

L241[12:36:44] <Althego> have to save the world somehow

L242[12:40:36] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/479343616922222593/DSC_9464.JPG

L243[12:41:02] <Althego> terminator arm repair

L244[12:44:45] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/479344680681865226/DSC_9466.MOV.Image_fixe001.png

L245[12:45:05] <Althego> let it go

L246[12:45:06] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/479344765221994506/DSC_9466.MOV.Image_fixe003.png

L247[12:45:21] <Althego> woooom ratatata

L248[12:48:36] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/479345619279020032/historical_photo2.png

L249[12:48:45] <Althego> hehe

L250[12:48:59] <Althego> add some more grain and film errors

L251[12:49:05] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/479345762208186378/DSC_9466.MOV.Image_fixe004.png

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L256[13:36:55] <mabus> that was sure a kerbalesque display in seattle huh

L257[13:37:34] <Althego> like what 5 days ago?

L258[13:37:46] <mabus> i saw one statement that said it was quite an achievement for a guy with 0 flight hours to do a loop de loop and barrel roll. who really deserves credit though are the engineers of the plane

L259[13:37:50] <Althego> but any landing you can walk away from...

L260[13:38:18] <mabus> also the fighter pilots for their couple minute response time

L261[13:38:54] <Althego> that is their job. but doing anything under 10 minutes is probably really good

L262[13:43:36] <UmbralRaptop> He, uh, didn't walk away?

L263[14:03:32] <Althego> then it is not a good landing

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L276[14:32:11] <JVFoxy> hmm..

L277[14:33:50] <JVFoxy> get around the 30 part bit, without actually upgrading hangar/runway... deploying two things. Just not sure how far from runway first part has to be so it doesn't get 'swept' up

L278[14:35:22] <Althego> assemble it near the launchpad?

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L280[14:38:43] <JVFoxy> its a module... play going to pick it up, carry it off to another site

L281[14:39:28] <JVFoxy> if it were local. I'd probably have built a jet powered crane from the pad, tried my hardest to dock it on the thing on the runway... try to fly it over without things going totally sideways

L282[14:40:12] <Althego> with 30 parts i can go to the mun, and meanwhile i can upgrade the building and the launchpad too

L283[14:40:46] <BlackMoon> Oh great.. kerbalism keeps deciding my space station is running outta power in the highest 2 timewarp settings.

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L285[14:41:05] <BlackMoon> reguardless of the fact it has a day of battery backup, and enough solar panels to run everything 3 times over

L286[14:41:16] <BlackMoon> AND a KSPI nuclear reactor that kerbalism does not seem to simulate at all -_-

L287[14:41:16] <JVFoxy> VAB and launch pad is upgraded... just was holding back long as I could

L288[14:41:54] <JVFoxy> 2.6mil to spend... lets just say I wanted challenge.

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L290[14:42:37] <BlackMoon> also, lol at 2nd part limit being 255 when anything higher then that runs like an absolute dog.

L291[14:43:28] <JVFoxy> sometimes even with 30 parts... physical warp, timer flashes yellow/red at times

L292[14:44:15] <Althego> haha, no

L293[14:44:20] <Althego> i went up to 800 easily

L294[14:44:24] <Althego> some people went above 1000

L295[14:44:35] <JVFoxy> super highend pc?

L296[14:44:48] <JVFoxy> though.. 32 or 64 bit?

L297[14:45:38] <Althego> hehe, who runs 32 bit anyway

L298[14:45:45] <JVFoxy> laptops

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L300[14:46:33] <Althego> nope

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L302[14:47:49] <BlackMoon> althego: at slideshow speeds, sure.

L303[14:48:10] <Althego> well, you just have to survive getting out of the atmosphere

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L305[14:48:26] <Althego> by that time enough parts decouple and atmo physics stop running

L306[14:48:30] <BlackMoon> hahah.

L307[14:48:31] <Althego> and it becomes lot better

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L309[14:49:48] <JVFoxy> ffff.... boosters on radial decouplers... blowing up soon as you drop them. Stupid insta-drag and atmosphere

L310[14:50:13] <Althego> you mount them incorrectly

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L312[14:50:37] <JVFoxy> bigger ones aren't a problem.. sure they can dance all they like behind the rocket after

L313[14:51:09] <JVFoxy> the shorter ones don't have as much room for mounting where it pushes them away. Soon as you douple, may as well just detonate them on the ship

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L315[14:52:17] <JVFoxy> I remember reading it was an old old issue... something about the remaining decoupler part causing drag soon as you detach them. Trouble was, it was infinite drag, someone didn't code the values right.

L316[14:53:03] <Althego> have to put the decoupler above their com, then they open up

L317[14:53:10] <Althego> not hitting anything

L318[14:53:28] <Althego> they may or may not hit each other, but not really an issue

L319[14:53:59] <JVFoxy> eh.. sometimes even then..

L320[14:54:13] <JVFoxy> what happens is, drag at high speeds retch the booster back into the rocket

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L322[14:54:29] <Althego> doesnt really happen to me

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L324[14:54:43] <JVFoxy> usually its coupler part that blows up instantly... though careful if you've any rockets nearby.. it'll slam those instead

L325[14:54:58] <Althego> never had that issue

L326[14:54:59] <JVFoxy> it depends on how fast you are going, how low you are

L327[14:55:16] <Althego> boosters typically separate between 5 and 10 km

L328[14:55:19] <Althego> solids i mean

L329[14:55:27] <JVFoxy> higher speeds usually messes things up a little. Not really too big an issue, since I don't use the little boosters much

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L331[14:56:40] <JVFoxy> one design for the Carter mun/minmus exploration craft, I did hybrid system... boosters but also had fuel tanks that would drain first. The timing was close enough, both tank and booster ran out together before dropping

L332[14:57:07] <Althego> i never do that

L333[14:57:38] <Althego> partially because i want to be able calculate delta v by hand, and i dont want to bother with the different isps

L334[14:58:17] <JVFoxy> I'd been experimenting on different systems for a while prior.. Carter had to go up partly fueled in order to make orbit..

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L336[15:04:38] <JVFoxy> oh... so core mainsail, 2 booster mainsails, 4 thumpers with supplemental fuel tanks.

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L367[17:25:35] <Draconiator> I'm still stuck with version 1.2.2 heh

L368[17:26:55] <Draconiator> Never really saw the need to upgrade ever since 1.3 did not load al;l the mods I used.

L369[17:27:07] <Draconiator> *use

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L402[20:40:10] <Draconiator> https://kerbalx.com/Jett_Quasar/MC-80-Star-Cruiser - Love this guys builds.

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L404[21:10:34] <JVFoxy> mm... so.. cabin, fuel, command/power station... which to send first?

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L408[21:42:14] <JVFoxy> hmmm..

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L439[23:41:37] <JVFoxy> zoom zoom

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