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L3[00:10:57] <Wetmelon> y'all I just found this old ass video where I tried to replicate the Curiosity landing. I had way too much fun on this one :D https://youtu.be/U-anDhGapVo
L4[00:10:57] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbalosity Landing on Duna
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L33[02:53:25] <Althego> https://i.imgur.com/tpt6Jbh.gifv
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L35[02:54:14] <UmbralRaptop> whee
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L38[03:08:06] <Mat2ch> Sheeps in space!
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L49[03:37:24] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: please don't click the sheeps
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L57[04:42:58] <Rolf> Sheep: holy flipping batman, I can fly!
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L61[05:00:48] <Fluburtur> I have received my tiny ceramic bearings
L62[05:00:53] <Fluburtur> what do now
L63[05:04:53] <Mat2ch> traveling back in time two years and build a spinner?
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L65[05:14:46] <Fluburtur> lel
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L67[05:15:00] <Fluburtur> I wanted to build a handheld air raid alarm
L68[05:15:13] <Fluburtur> would justify building a gearbox with bearngs
L69[05:29:30] <Rolf> 3d print it
L70[05:29:44] <Fluburtur> yeah that's the plan
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L72[05:34:00] <Flub2> the ethernet cable plugged into my computer is really crap
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L74[05:37:13] <Rolf> cool
L75[05:37:22] <Rolf> im not too ure what my plans is lol
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L96[09:02:54] <Eddi|zuHause> i have several dozen spare ethernet cables
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L98[09:10:18] <Flub2> im a little afraid the vg33 will have too much torque causing it to flip when I throw it
L99[09:10:23] <Flub2> because it has a fairly large propeller
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L102[09:11:37] <Mat2ch> Flub2: then don't start with full power
L103[09:11:48] <Mat2ch> also you could add a gear and start it from a street
L104[09:11:53] <Black_Eagle> how does one make an SSTO space plane capable of landing on Mun
L105[09:11:57] <Flub2> yeah I could
L106[09:12:17] <Flub2> but there isn't any road here suited for taking off that is close enough to a field
L107[09:12:43] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzjRB-RaB9w \o/
L108[09:12:48] <Mat2ch> Wintergatan!
L109[09:12:54] <Flub2> wooo
L110[09:13:15] <Flub2> I do need to design proper gears for the vg33
L111[09:13:20] <Flub2> for the production models
L112[09:13:42] <Black_Eagle> i had 300 ox left at 0 lf, added another 1000 lf and i'm still 300 ox left at 0 lf :D
L113[09:14:50] <bees> <Black_Eagle> how does one make an SSTO space plane capable of landing on Mun
L114[09:15:02] <bees> when in doubt, go 4x rapier clusters + 1 rhino on mk3
L115[09:15:10] <Black_Eagle> hahaha
L116[09:15:12] <bees> it would clip very slightly, but work
L117[09:15:23] <bees> i mean, it is truly dumbproof
L118[09:15:42] <bees> rhino is super amazing for large spaceplanes
L119[09:16:00] <bees> twr makes life a billion times easier when you can just thrust to orbit from 5-10 degrees up
L120[09:16:11] <Black_Eagle> aye
L121[09:16:29] <bees> moon landing could be somewhat complicated, though
L122[09:16:41] <Black_Eagle> ok i admit, my design isn't a ground up /space/ plane. it's a blackbird with more engines
L123[09:18:25] <Black_Eagle> it's just weird how doing a mun rocket is basically just slapping stuff together and calling it a day
L124[09:19:23] <Black_Eagle> but trying to do it one stagea and getting near-free 1400m/s from jets is suddenly so much more mass that you need ludicrous amounts of fuel
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L127[09:33:20] <Flub2> also the plane has air intakes but no exhaust
L128[09:33:35] <Flub2> guess the air will have to come out in the gap behind the elevator
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L139[10:13:12] <Althego> lol the marbles
L140[10:21:18] <Althego> lol hammering with both hands
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L169[12:12:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly certain he's lost all his marbles by this point
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L174[12:23:10] <Flub2> Mat2ch I should be able to fly the plane tomorrow
L175[12:23:28] <Althego> surprising that people know what i am talking about
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L177[12:28:54] <Eddi|zuHause> why is that surprising? someone even linked the video earlier
L178[12:35:35] <Althego> it was skinny. could get into places http://www.warpology.com/k/skinny.mp4
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L181[12:55:33] <Mat2ch> Althego: you should attach a small probe core with a reaction wheel to control the wing
L182[12:55:47] <Althego> that would make it more complicated
L183[12:55:52] <Mat2ch> just one part
L184[12:55:55] <Althego> and not really operational if outside of range
L185[12:56:26] <Mat2ch> add a seat, too? ;)
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L187[12:57:06] <Althego> this would fit in a cargo bay
L188[12:57:06] <Mat2ch> I wonder if it possible to use docking ports as bearing. I know that you can couple trailers with them...
L189[12:57:35] <Althego> how? i can imagine it as a linear bearing only
L190[12:58:40] <Althego> but this one has issues, the wing is not as stable and the maximum speed is lower
L191[12:59:21] <Mat2ch> mhm
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L193[13:06:41] <JVFoxy> Althego Hmm... wonder if you knew https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/NASA_AD-1_in_flight.jpg/400px-NASA_AD-1_in_flight.jpg
L194[13:06:50] <Althego> yes
L195[13:07:04] <Althego> but this wouldnt be stable in the air
L196[13:07:05] <JVFoxy> I remember this thing since I was little... books..
L197[13:07:08] <Althego> if i tried to rotate it
L198[13:07:41] <JVFoxy> well you'd probably have to redo the wing so it was more symetrical
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L200[13:08:55] <JVFoxy> ponder...
L201[13:09:12] <JVFoxy> take my dragonfly plane... do something with pivoting wings
L202[13:09:47] <JVFoxy> wing parts closed, its regular wing shape... opens up to make something like an 'X'...
L203[13:11:05] <JVFoxy> speaking of swept wings.. lol.. the comment on this one: https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/grumman-f-14a-tomcat-no-problemo/
L204[13:13:12] <Althego> hehe, it is waving
L205[13:13:39] <Althego> this is ksp, so technically i could split the wing to a bunch of tiny surfaces, and stick that around the body
L206[13:13:49] <Althego> it wouldnt need to move and still could fit anywhere
L207[13:15:41] <JVFoxy> with mine.. I'd likely install IR...
L208[13:16:07] <JVFoxy> I know joints aren't strong, but I wouldn't be using big wings to begin with
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L211[13:18:31] <JVFoxy> huh.. 3 miniguns makes a gunship (IE Spooky) Trouble was, couldn't make miniguns fast enough to fill orders.. now.. AC-130.. enough said..
L212[13:18:57] <JVFoxy> Spooky plane from back in the wars... meant to add..
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L214[13:36:45] <APlayer> Speaking of airplanes: https://imgur.com/gallery/HUExUO5 (title is important for context)
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L220[14:01:26] <Neal1> "no crash damage" and "unbreakable joints" are lies!
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L228[14:31:50] <Flub2> I found a pic of the sound system we had in the prop making school https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5o6Ua0BeJXYb2xRU2xSMU5RbFk/view?usp=sharing
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L235[14:51:00] <Althego> the rotating wing is now stable, and i added self deploy like in the previous version, with sepratron
L236[14:52:05] <Althego> now i just need to figure out how to do a) cargo bay rollout (the wheels in the back may be a bit high) b) in air deployment
L237[14:52:16] <Althego> the second one is the cooler, therefore better
L238[14:52:26] <Flub2> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/476837482013392914/DSC_8417.JPG
L239[14:52:40] <Mat2ch> Flub2: I have an even older stereo here
L240[14:52:44] <Althego> i have seen a ksp video that did that, but with a smaller plane
L241[14:52:58] <Althego> even older than the cat? :)
L242[14:53:08] <Mat2ch> Althego: just drop it out of the bay ;)
L243[14:53:41] <Mat2ch> either from a mid plane bay or with a chute
L244[14:54:07] <Althego> hmm
L245[14:54:13] <Althego> that is actually kind of good
L246[14:54:17] <Althego> i didnt think of that
L247[14:54:23] <Mat2ch> also you could add a retractable gear and put some gear on the inside of the bay to slide it out
L248[14:54:31] <Althego> with the gears retracted there should be no problem
L249[14:55:11] <Althego> the problem is that the hinge/bearing is not very strong, it dislocates under high forces
L250[14:55:34] <Mat2ch> small chute
L251[14:55:35] <Althego> but now that it is hidden in the center i could add some other things instead of the thermometers
L252[14:55:44] <Mat2ch> also you can add struts
L253[14:56:01] <Mat2ch> they'll get cut when you decouple
L254[14:56:05] <Althego> to what? you cant strut two crafts
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L256[14:56:21] <Althego> in the bay? i usually do that
L257[14:56:38] <Mat2ch> to strut the wing to the plane
L258[14:56:44] <Althego> maybe now it is not needed, but in older version the bay didnt hold the contents fixed
L259[14:57:02] <Mat2ch> not the cargo plane
L260[14:57:06] <Althego> it is already strutted with autostruts, works ok
L261[14:57:18] <Althego> the problem is that when it rotates it is only coupled in the iunge
L262[14:57:27] <Althego> hinge
L263[14:57:32] <Althego> and that can dislocate
L264[15:00:18] <Black_Eagle> is 2k dV enough for a Mun landing?
L265[15:00:33] <Althego> from where?
L266[15:00:35] <Black_Eagle> gotta get back too :P
L267[15:00:47] <Black_Eagle> oh, sorry: lko
L268[15:01:25] <Althego> say 900 to mun, 300 to slow down, 900 to land... or do i remember this incorrectly?
L269[15:01:47] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/gBoLsSt
L270[15:01:48] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png
L271[15:01:48] <Althego> so technically it is barely enough for landing
L272[15:02:07] <Mat2ch> should be enough
L273[15:02:15] <Black_Eagle> aye
L274[15:02:19] <Althego> ah yes the 3rd one is only 600
L275[15:02:22] <Althego> so enough to land
L276[15:02:27] <Althego> not to get back to orbit even
L277[15:02:27] <Black_Eagle> "should be" with my flying skills we'll see
L278[15:02:33] <Mat2ch> :D
L279[15:03:02] <Althego> i remembered the circularize and land as 900 together, so basically 2x 900
L280[15:03:11] <Althego> 3x 900 should get you back
L281[15:03:21] <Black_Eagle> thanks guys :)
L282[15:03:51] <Mat2ch> Althego: not much margin for errors then
L283[15:08:41] <JVFoxy> ugh ideas.. I should maybe consider in orbit construction for large ships..
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L285[15:10:31] <JVFoxy> this idea of a station arund the mun, several lander bays...
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L314[16:07:20] <mabus> spoopy
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L335[16:55:36] <UmbralRaptop> mabus: an SCP broke containment. ██ mobile task forces were deployed.
L336[16:57:06] <Flub2> uh our teams were supposed to supress that information, I will have to administer amnestics to you
L337[16:58:53] <UmbralRaptop> Oops
L338[16:59:31] <Flub2> please look at your screens with attention, I will send class III-B visual amnestics
L339[17:00:16] <Flub2> side effects might include slight nausea or wanting to watch a tv show
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L342[17:09:48] <UmbralRaptop> why are kittens?
L343[17:09:54] <UmbralRaptop> ¿?
L344[17:10:02] <UmbralRaptop> ❓❔❓❔❓
L345[17:10:28] <UmbralRaptop> ？？？？
L346[17:11:07] <Flub2> stuff happens
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L353[17:28:34] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M_ys_6eKHg
L354[17:28:35] <kmath> YouTube - 10 People Who Married Non-Human Things!
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L356[17:30:24] <Black_Eagle> hey i made it!
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L358[17:30:42] <Black_Eagle> panther + nerva Mun SSTO space plane
L359[17:31:46] <Black_Eagle> thanks Althego & Mat2ch
L360[17:32:05] <Black_Eagle> i think i did it with 2900 m/s dV
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L383[19:37:20] <UmbralRaptop> citizen science galaxy project? https://twitter.com/tompeterken/status/1027105048931835905
L384[19:37:21] <kmath> <tompeterken> Who fancies looking at pretty pictures of galaxies AND helping me with my PhD? Yeah that sounds great doesn't it?!… https://t.co/kxdJV5o1LQ
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L405[20:44:08] <ConductorCat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_NZ1ql8B8Y
L406[20:44:08] <kmath> YouTube - THE SCUTOID: did scientists discover a new shape?
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L408[21:27:09] <UmbralRaptop> https://twitter.com/NASA_TESS/status/1027327466975752197
L409[21:27:10] <kmath> <✔NASA_TESS> TESS Mission Update: Successfully downlinked through @NASASCaN #DSN the first 2 weeks of @NASA_TESS science data!… https://t.co/qT8zxodNXw
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L412[21:43:16] <ConductorCat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfmrvxB154w
L413[21:43:17] <kmath> YouTube - A refrigerator that works by stretching rubber bands
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L421[22:01:19] <Draconiator> bleh...trying to fix a wireless modem issue.
L422[22:02:43] <Draconiator> Apparently NONE of our devices can access it, and for some reason Discord will not load.
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L435[22:47:05] <Draconiator> so okay that did not work. in fact I have no clue why that caused even more problems.
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