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L17[01:37:51] <Supercheese> 9 Kerbals on
their way to Duna in comfort
L18[01:37:55] <Supercheese> it may be a
long trip, but the centrifuge provices ½ Kerbin standard gravity,
and the greenhouse provides near-infite supplies
L19[01:39:27] <Eddi|zuHause> how about
radiation shielding, or holodeck?
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L22[01:49:53] <Supercheese> there is a
special radiation-shielded section of the ship, yes
L23[01:50:04] <Supercheese> sadly no
holodeck, but there are fishies swimming about in the
aquarium
L24[01:50:49] <Gasher[work]> sounds good
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L49[03:34:40] <awabast40> hello
L50[03:34:42] <Mod9000> Hello,
awabast40
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L52[03:35:02] <awabast40> i have a
question
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L54[03:36:06] <awabast40> i have a question
please
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L56[03:37:47] <awabast40> is there anybody
there ?
L57[03:37:55] <sandbox> ?
L58[03:38:36] <Eddi|zuHause> aw, you
spoiled it.
L59[03:40:03] <awabast40> when you're
looking through the ksp folder and files where on earth do you find
the kerbals so you can modify them
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L64[03:58:09] <Eddi|zuHause> that wouldn't
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L65[04:01:06] <Mat2ch> Blaank: there's a
making-off video about it. I think this is from Hazard-ish
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L81[05:56:45] <Fluburtur> I finally changed
the strings on my strat
L82[05:57:01] <Fluburtur> they were like at
least 10 years old but they were nice strings
L83[05:57:04] <Fluburtur> didn't age
L84[06:02:17] <Deddly> Why change them,
then?
L86[06:02:40] <Fluburtur> one of them was
broken
L87[06:03:11] <Fluburtur> I would like to
know what brand and model was the old strings however, they were
really good
L88[06:03:19] <Fluburtur> I really like
this guitar
L89[06:04:02] <Gasher[work]> Althego, i
have a ceramic glass which looks like a squeezed plastic glass,
just as those
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L91[06:09:55] <Deddly> Althego, if I put
them in the can-collecting machine, will the machine accept them
and pay me my deposit for the cans?
L92[06:11:51] <Gasher[work]> well as such
machines press the cans it would break either the machine or the
can - or both with shards
L93[06:14:12] <Deddly> I wasn't being
serious, Gasher[work] ;)
L94[06:14:31] <Althego> hehe for a while i
was wondering if you changed the strings what did the old ones
contain, and what are the new lines
L95[06:14:58] <Althego> but then thte word
strat didnt make any sense
L96[06:15:09] <Althego> what kind of
program can that be
L97[06:17:17] <Gasher[work]> Deddly, such
jokes should be answered in detail :)
L98[06:18:00] <Deddly> Gasher[work], this
is true! In that case, I would also add that without a barcode, the
machine would not accept them.
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L101[06:20:36] <Gasher[work]> Deddly, i
have no experience with these machines so i thought only about
mechanical part
L102[06:21:31] <Deddly> OK I've shockingly
never tried the waypoint marker thing in KSP. I understand that I
need a satellite in polar orbit, but what parts does the satellite
need? I want to set up a lot of markers on the ground for me to
follow a course
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L105[06:26:48] <taniwha> Deddly: kerbnet
capable probe core + antenna
L106[06:27:02] <Deddly> Thanks
taniwha
L107[06:27:09] <Deddly> So it's the probe.
Huh
L108[06:27:31] <taniwha> yeah
L109[06:27:34] <Fluburtur> does the m700
scanner still work for lithobraking?
L110[06:31:05] <taniwha> there's a part
that does not work for lithobraking?
L111[06:32:46] <taniwha> (reusability
optional, of course)
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L117[07:05:47] <RandomJeb> maybe massless
ones don't work for it? I'm not sure if they inherit the mass from
their parent and use that until they're lithobroken
L118[07:06:09] <Rolf> lithobroken?
L119[07:07:11] <RandomJeb> yes
L120[07:09:21] <RandomJeb> you usually end
up with at least a few lithobroken parts if you're doing a hard
lithobrake
L121[07:09:31] <JVFoxy> um.. sounds like
fun
L122[07:22:04] <Deddly> Did that bug ever
get fixed where if you dock to the claw of another craft, the world
disappears?
L123[07:44:31] <Fluburtur> the danny
planet eater?
L124[07:45:07] <Deddly> Exactly
L125[07:45:36] <Deddly> I don't
particularly want to recreate that right now
L126[07:53:59] <sandbox> there's a comment
on one of danny's videos saying they fixed it, but I don't know if
that's true or not
L127[07:54:59] <APlayer> "if you dock
to the claw of another craft, the world disappears" Kerbal
Space Apocalypse
L128[07:56:25] <JVFoxy> ugh.. silly
docking port jr... pulled me in but shot me past the port bumped
into the side of the docking target. >.<
L129[07:57:24] <JVFoxy> When you can dock
little craft without RCS... thare's your sign..
L130[07:57:41] <JVFoxy> when you can fly
planes without wings.. there's your sign...
L131[07:57:42] <JVFoxy> c.c;
L132[07:57:57] <APlayer> JVFoxy: AFAIK,
there are mods to tweak the "magnet" in the docking
port
L133[07:58:10] <JVFoxy> aka knowing you
are getting pretty good at KSP...
L134[07:58:33] <APlayer> Planes without
wings sounds suspiciously close to rockets
L135[07:59:02] <JVFoxy> ya.. its ok.. just
caught me by surprise is all. coming towards it at a bit of an
angle. Rushing it a little before hit the terminator/dark
side
L136[07:59:13] <APlayer> Also, Re:
Docking, make sure you approach the docking port slowly and
head-on. Zero translation and zero rotation needed. Then you never
miss
L137[08:00:19] <JVFoxy> well.. considering
I didn't have any RCS onboard...
L138[08:00:40] <APlayer> Align the other
craft, then
L139[08:01:01] <JVFoxy> either way... got
them connected..
L140[08:01:07] <APlayer> The main engine
can be used, but aligning the docking ports may be a headache then
:P
L143[08:01:55] <JVFoxy> small craft+spark
engine... very maneuverable.. was sorta going gemini style
L144[08:02:45] <JVFoxy> lol.. I could half
switched control. .but where's the challenge?
L147[08:12:08] <APlayer> Nice!
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L149[08:19:12] <JVFoxy> so.. ya.. so RCS?
naww...
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L156[09:06:46] <JVFoxy> I see KSP still
has some asymmetrical lift/drag issues in regards to some mirrored
parts in the SPH.. :\
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L163[09:36:28] <JVFoxy> <_> stupid
landing
L164[09:39:08] <JVFoxy> oh.. nose wheel..
why must you be so... repulsive?
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L166[09:50:30] <JVFoxy> or not... ok I'm
offically confused.. touched down ok, then started breakdancing all
over the runway blowing parts off
L167[09:50:52] <Fluburtur> yeah wheels are
way too bouncy
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L170[09:52:21] <JVFoxy> touched down, nose
just shot straight up. flipped onto engine, blew that off, then
started going all squirelly.. to point of no wings, just probe
body, fuel tank, and the landing gear. kept spinning around like
probe had super gyros (which I already turned off)
L171[09:52:57] <JVFoxy> at least few
moments.. wheels act like repulsers now too?
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L173[09:54:14] <JVFoxy> eh try a few
changes I suppose
L174[09:55:02] <awabast40> Hi there how do
find kerbals in the ksp folder so I can modify them
L175[09:56:29] <JVFoxy> think they in the
persistant folder
L176[09:56:34] <JVFoxy> or file
L177[09:56:49] <JVFoxy> you looking for
the crew roster or ... the new ones that show up?
L178[09:57:55] <awabast40> Thanks for that
I can't seem to find the little buggers in persistent file
L179[09:59:26] <awabast40> I have the
persistent file up right now and have gone about a quarter of the
way through it
L180[10:00:02] <JVFoxy> its near bottom,
search for 'roster'
L181[10:00:44] <awabast40> I want to copy
the script that makes them move if at all possible
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L183[10:01:56] <JVFoxy> ... move?
L184[10:02:17] <awabast40> JvFoxy is it
possible to do that
L185[10:02:38] <JVFoxy> I warn against
copying scripts from the game itself, due to copyright issues
L186[10:03:19] <JVFoxy> best to have
something you worked on your own from scratch.. to avoid ..
issues
L187[10:03:42] <awabast40> I would like to
use it in. The game for something else
L188[10:04:28] <awabast40> For a mod I'm
trying to make
L189[10:04:43] <JVFoxy> how do you mean by
'move then?
L190[10:07:08] <APlayer> To use code from
KSP for another program, you'd have to decompile and
reverse-engineer it, which is nearly impossible, and illegal if you
do manage to make it
L191[10:07:50] <awabast40> When they grab
hold of the space ship or different things and run around I guess
I'm trying to say I just wanted to copy and repurpose the
script
L192[10:08:22] <APlayer> It might be
exposed in the API for you to use, but it's not possible to copy
it
L193[10:08:33] <APlayer> I'm no help with
the KSP API, though
L194[10:08:34] <awabast40> For the
animation on how they move around
L195[10:09:48] <JVFoxy> there is a dev and
mod channel on here.. I don't recall the exact wording.. they might
be of better help to you
L196[10:10:06] <APlayer> #kspmodding
L197[10:10:41] <APlayer> Don't expect
instant help such as here, though. They are much less people, and
so the channel is not as busy
L198[10:10:53] <JVFoxy> though, I would
advise against reverse engineering scripts. Best to come up with
your own things
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L200[10:13:54] <JVFoxy> ah .. there we go,
moving nose wheel further forwards helped
L201[10:14:06] <JVFoxy> I guess a slight
limit on how small you can make things
L203[10:14:21] <Althego> (read the alt
text too)
L204[10:15:21] <jgkamat> lol
L205[10:15:27] <awabast40> Thank you very
much for all your help I'm on a phone so I'm not sure how to get on
to the KSP modding forum
L206[10:16:09] <APlayer> The same way you
joined #KSPOfficial
L207[10:16:35] <APlayer> Just type
#kspmodding in the channel field of the webchat
L208[10:17:07] <APlayer> You might also
try "/j #kspmodding", though I am not sure how that will
or will not work
L209[10:17:43] <Althego> \/join should
work, i havent seen a client yet that doesnt accept it
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L211[10:18:05] <APlayer> It's webchat. May
not accept anything
L212[10:19:07] <JVFoxy> and poof
L213[10:19:31] <APlayer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L214[10:19:49] <Althego> look, the old
java client running on the nokia 6230 could do that
L215[10:19:57] <Althego> we cant have
regressed this far
L216[10:20:11] <Althego> yet again, we
have lennart poettering to mess up everything that already
worked
L218[10:23:32] <JVFoxy> I sorta refuse a
phone that can internet..
L219[10:28:36] <Althego> and i refuse to
have a computer that cant
L220[10:30:42] <APlayer> IIRC it /is/
possible to dock two things in KSP at two places at once? E.g. two
tanks side by side, with two docking ports on each, providing two
joints?
L221[10:31:59] <Althego> supposedly there
is some kind of support for that for the last few releases but i
have never seen that workinf
L222[10:32:18] <Althego> i know because
thye mentioned it at one point that it was not working again
L223[10:32:44] <APlayer> So it's not
without trouble in any case?
L224[10:32:46] <Eddi|zuHause> why the hell
would i want to know the distance of a lightning in MILES?!?
L225[10:32:58] <Althego> exactly
L226[10:33:04] <JVFoxy> dock two things in
two different places.. huh?
L227[10:33:18] <Althego> i tihnk it is
about multi port docking
L228[10:33:26] <JVFoxy> You mean, parts
with two ports on each, sort of for alignment?
L229[10:33:39] <APlayer> JVFoxy: For
example, two tanks with a docking port at each end, so you have two
links between them.
L230[10:33:48] <Eddi|zuHause> use
struts!
L231[10:33:52] <APlayer> Because one would
be way too wobbly
L232[10:33:58] <JVFoxy> far as i know..
you could.. but more to do with timing
L233[10:34:05] <Althego> yes there is
autostrut now
L234[10:34:12] <Althego> you can turn that
on after the docking
L235[10:34:14] <APlayer> Eddi: That's plan
B. The thing is, struts cannot be attached in orbit without KAS. I
do use KAS, though
L236[10:34:14] <JVFoxy> once you dock,
double check that you have an undock feature on either end
L237[10:34:15] <Althego> maybe that
helps
L238[10:34:54] <JVFoxy> maybe they want to
make sure everything is lined up perfectly... I've had moments
where I found I could use something similar
L239[10:35:45] <APlayer> I rather want to
avoid autostruts. I don't trust that with large contraptions, tends
to get in danger of kraken attacks
L240[10:36:01] <APlayer> Believe it or
not, I found KAS struts to be more reliable
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L242[10:37:49] <JVFoxy> I should consider
orbital shipyard or something for later on...
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L244[10:38:06] <JVFoxy> that is... if I
can ever get a game to last long enough before yet another update
messes things
L245[10:45:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i meant KAS
struts, never used autostrut
L246[10:46:12] <Althego> since it is a mod
i never used those
L247[10:46:18] <Eddi|zuHause> always have
an engineer with a few struts in the pocket :p
L248[10:48:21] <APlayer> Eddi: This sort
of mission calls for a few KIS storage modules with spares and
tools for all situations
L249[10:48:29] <APlayer> All accounted
for
L250[10:49:44] <Eddi|zuHause> "Hebe
nie vom Acker, ohne deinen Tacker"
L251[10:50:01] <Eddi|zuHause> (i think
that is from "hot shots"?)
L252[10:50:55] <Althego> according to the
net yes
L253[10:51:15] <APlayer> Just a bunch of
stuff for field repairs and spares for the most critical parts of
the ship. Also some beer and the guitar. :P
L254[10:51:20] <Althego> unfortunately my
german is not good enough to understand this
L255[10:51:52] <APlayer> Althego:
Basically, never leave [some place] without [some important
thing]
L256[10:52:02] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego:
there must be an english translation for this
L257[10:52:13] <Althego> hehe, you mean an
english original
L258[10:52:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i understand
that people can't always watch movies in the klingon original
L259[10:53:08] <Althego> but you have to
listen to the borg greeting message in the german original
L261[10:57:44] <APlayer> Eddi: But it
slightly lowers the internal resistance of the wire
L262[10:58:02] <Althego> it is just more
threatening than the english version because the words used there
are a lot softer sounding
L263[10:58:28] <APlayer> Also, I guessed
the content of the image by looking at the URL :P
L264[10:58:35] <Althego> obviously
L265[10:59:01] <Eddi|zuHause> well,
variations of that image have been around for like 20 years
:p
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L269[11:23:47] <Althego> hehe
L270[11:24:13] <ConductorCat> :3
L271[11:24:18] <Althego> finally a
wintergatan video
L272[11:24:34] <Eddi|zuHause> because
there has never been one of those before?
L273[11:24:38] <Althego> he got the metal
parts that make the sound
L274[11:29:08] <Althego> not much talk in
this video
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L277[11:34:56] <Althego> one problem
though, he is orbiting the earth retrograde
L278[11:37:17] <JVFoxy> which vid?
L280[11:38:52] <JVFoxy> oh lol... at the
start
L281[11:39:14] <JVFoxy> er... end.. sorry
missed the time mark there
L282[11:39:26] <Althego> no it was
correct
L283[11:39:36] <Althego> that is the part
where the orbit is wrong :)
L284[11:42:25] <JVFoxy> I remember seeing
his original machine when it was a thing on youtube a while
back
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L286[11:51:20] <Mat2ch> Althego:
Fluburtur: is it just me or was that a bit underwhelming? I want
longer videos!
L287[11:51:39] <Althego> no, it is
flywheeling
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L289[11:52:19] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd
postulate that making the videos longer would make the completion
later
L290[11:52:44] <Fluburtur> I barely do a
video twice a month and his stuff is hundreds of times better and
he does one like once a week
L291[11:52:50] <Mat2ch> I thought Hannes
cuts the videos?
L292[11:53:10] <Eddi|zuHause> not what i
meant
L293[11:53:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i meant, for
longer videos you need more "good" content
L294[11:53:47] <Eddi|zuHause> and if you
focus more on the content, then you divert time from actually doing
something useful
L295[12:01:06] <Althego> at one point it
was twice a week
L296[12:01:12] <Althego> it seems he
couldnt keep upp with that
L297[12:01:20] <Althego> but i rather
enjoyed this video
L298[12:01:27] <Althego> there was no
useless talk
L299[12:03:01] <JVFoxy> find it funny on
some build videos, when they speed things up :P
L300[12:03:07] <JVFoxy> not jsut his, but
some others
L301[12:03:30] <Fluburtur> he seems quite
inspired by that DiResta dude
L302[12:04:26] <Althego> how martin does
it, he took it from mathias wandel
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L304[12:04:35] <Althego> it is both funny
and useful
L305[12:04:54] <Althego> adam savage also
mentioned he watches videos from mathias, and likes the sped up
parts
L307[12:06:32] <Althego> the origin of
kerbals may be older than this, but the actual animated versions we
see in the game, i am not sure
L308[12:07:00] <Fluburtur> I think it's
from the guy was making model rockets before creating the
game
L309[12:07:05] <Althego> yes
L310[12:07:08] <Althego> felipe
L311[12:07:11] <Althego> (harvester)
L312[12:07:18] <Althego> but those were
not animated
L313[12:07:40] <Althego> so the ones in
the game may be inspired by the minions
L314[12:07:55] <Althego> or they are both
just generic cartoonish funny characters
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L317[12:10:21] <RoboFreak> it's
linking!
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L325[12:10:59] <RoboFreak> in my mind it
sounds like in 2010 when they leaving jupiter and one shouts: it's
shrinking!
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L327[12:11:02] <ConductorCat> :3
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L330[12:12:00] <JVFoxy> I seem to recall,
Felipe and this idea... to have little minions of his own to be
riding along on ships and creations... just ended up as part of the
game
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L348[12:30:49] <Althego> heh it was right
at the end now, and software caused connection abort, some issue
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L355[12:44:56] <UmbralRaptor>
<@Remfin> factorio4life
L356[12:44:56] <UmbralRaptor>
<@Remfin> no really, you're trading factorio for your life
:(
L357[12:45:14] <Althego> hehe
L358[12:45:19] <JVFoxy> time well
wasted...?
L359[12:45:21] <Althego> that is cheap, i
dont have a life
L360[12:45:39] <Althego> but i kept myself
far from factorio
L361[12:45:43] <JVFoxy> coulda been a
cookie clicker...
L362[12:45:49] <Althego> swarmsim
L363[12:45:56] <Althego> (i finished
swarmsim)
L365[12:47:13] <ConductorCat> KSP without
Kerbs would be just wrong.
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L369[12:49:50] <kmath> YouTube - How Solid
Rockets Steer - How Can You Stop A SRB?
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L379[13:29:35] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch remember
my hot glue that smells very bad from like a year ago?
L380[13:29:54] <Althego> does it explode
now?
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L382[13:30:54] <Fluburtur> no but it still
smells bad
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L385[13:48:50] <Gasher> well there are
some stable things in your life Fluburtur :)
L387[13:49:09] <Althego> its name is weird
enough already for me
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L389[13:50:02] <Eddi|zuHause> all hail
polish consonant conglomerates that sound nothing what they look
like
L390[13:50:02] <Gasher> sounds like polish
surname
L391[13:50:47] <Eddi|zuHause>
"prz" probably has neither a "p", nor an
"r" nor a "z" sound in it
L392[13:51:42] <Eddi|zuHause> (and in all
likelyhood is also missing some special marks that are not writable
in english)
L393[13:51:55] <Althego> in the video i
linked the guy says the name
L394[13:56:25] <Gasher> i guess it's
something like zh
L395[13:56:33] <Eddi|zuHause> when was
that?
L396[13:56:34] <Gasher> or pz
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L399[13:59:17] <kmath> YouTube - This Star
Might Be Hiding Undiscovered Elements | Przybylski’s Star
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L401[14:02:12] <Eddi|zuHause> that was not
what i asked :p
L402[14:02:55] <Eddi|zuHause> and why
would you assume that guy knows how to pronounce it?
L403[14:04:47] <Althego> i dont
L404[14:05:04] <Eddi|zuHause> particularly
english speakers are pretty bad with consonant chains, hence all
the silent letters in words like "knight" or
"pterodactyl"
L405[14:06:18] <Eddi|zuHause> which are
not silent in their respective german versions
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L408[14:17:32] <Gasher> they are not bad,
they just have no more than two letter consonants
L409[14:17:49] <Gasher> which is like one
letter too long i'd say
L410[14:18:45] <Gasher> on the other hand
russian has 33 letters which are used to replace monstrousities
like german "Sch" with one letter Ш or Щ
L411[14:18:52] <Eddi|zuHause> must be
careful here, amount of letters is not always the same as amount of
sounds
L412[14:19:13] <Eddi|zuHause> Schtsch is
the best letter :p
L413[14:19:30] <Gasher> replace it with
one letter :P
L414[14:19:59] <Gasher> and no diacritical
marks :P
L415[14:20:08] <Eddi|zuHause>
"Tschetschenien" is like 5 letters in russian
L416[14:20:15] <Gasher> чечен yes
L417[14:20:38] <Gasher> i think you tried
to write that word
L418[14:20:50] <Eddi|zuHause> looks
right
L419[14:21:50] <Eddi|zuHause> wikipedia
thinks it's "Чечня"
L420[14:22:02] <Gasher> that's the region
name
L421[14:22:23] <Gasher> then you messed
the last syllable
L422[14:22:44] <Eddi|zuHause> it's the
german name for the country
L423[14:22:56] <Gasher> ah
L425[14:22:59] <Gasher> makes sense
then
L426[14:23:13] <Gasher> also i think it's
russian name of it
L427[14:23:39] <Gasher> not the one they
have in their own language
L428[14:25:09] <Eddi|zuHause> as a german,
i can tell you it's not unusual that other language's name for your
country doesn't necessarily match the native name :p
L429[14:25:29] <Althego> hehe
L430[14:25:31] <Gasher> like
Germany/Allemagne/Deutschland/Nemetchina (the last one is
belarusian lol)
L431[14:25:35] <Eddi|zuHause> there's like
6 different names for germany depending on which direction you
travel
L432[14:25:46] <Althego> we call germany
németország :)
L433[14:25:59] <Althego> i always wondered
why
L434[14:26:10] <Gasher> nemtsy is a name
for germans in russian
L435[14:26:19] <Althego> also italy is
olaszország (yes ország is just country)
L436[14:26:28] <Gasher> etymology is
similar to barbarians in greek
L437[14:26:45] <Eddi|zuHause>
"Nemec" and derivatives thereof is the slavish name for
germans (comes from the word for "mute" as they spoke
unintelligable garbage to them)
L438[14:26:47] <Gasher> used to mean all
of the foreigners
L439[14:26:56] <Althego> lol
L440[14:27:02] <Althego> like barbarians,
really
L441[14:27:05] <Gasher> yeah that's why i
mentioned barbarians
L442[14:27:26] <Althego> so this is
another slavic influence
L443[14:27:42] <Gasher> also it shows that
of all of the foreigners slavic nations seem to interact mostly
with germanic ones
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L446[14:31:51] <Eddi|zuHause> it also
shows that the germans independently interacted with lots of their
neighbours, so they had to come up with names before the other
names travelled to them
L447[14:32:31] <Gasher> i'd say they just
called them by the directions, like Ostermark :)
L448[14:32:53] <Eddi|zuHause>
"they" are the other people here
L449[14:33:02] <Gasher> osterreich
L450[14:33:12] <Gasher> mixed stuff
L451[14:33:29] <Gasher> oh, the
franks?
L452[14:33:53] <Gasher> i'm sorry in
advance about the spelling - i have never seen some of these names
in english
L453[14:33:58] <Althego> spacex in 5 days
10 hours
L454[14:34:21] <Althego> that is next
week, still far away
L455[14:35:23] <Althego> hm pbs spacetime
about the parker space probe
L456[14:35:29] <Gasher> like, that Clovis
name is spelled like Khlodvig here
L457[14:36:34] <Eddi|zuHause>
Chlodwig?
L458[14:37:10] <Gasher> that strong H
sound is transliterated as Kh to English
L459[14:37:40] <Eddi|zuHause> there were a
few sound shifts between than and now :p
L460[14:38:27] <Eddi|zuHause> as in, the
dutch pronunciation of "G", which completely disappeared
in german
L461[14:38:54] <Eddi|zuHause> and then
german has two different pronunciations of "ch"
L463[14:38:56] <Gasher> G as g or j?
L465[14:39:12] <Gasher> looks like
MiG
L466[14:39:23] <Fluburtur> it's a
vg33
L467[14:39:37] <Eddi|zuHause> Gasher:
there are like half a dozen different pronunciations of
"g" depending on which dialect you speak
L468[14:39:40] <Althego> it is taking
shape
L469[14:39:49] <Fluburtur> the airframe is
complete
L470[14:39:55] <Gasher> Eddi|zuHause, i
meant closer to which
L471[14:40:00] <Althego> construction
complete. thud
L472[14:40:02] <Fluburtur> I just need to
instal the electronics, glue the nose and do the wings
L473[14:40:13] <Althego> and do the
twist
L474[14:40:49] <Eddi|zuHause> Gasher: like
the phrase "Vogelgesang in Magdeburg" contains 5 'g's,
and each of them is pronounced differently
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L476[14:41:42] <Eddi|zuHause> of those, i
meant the 4th one :p
L477[14:41:43] <Gasher> well then i'd say
i need a transcription to get that - i don't remember german
pronunciation rules good enough for that
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L479[14:42:06] <Eddi|zuHause> the
pronunciation rules wouldn't do you any good here, i'm afraid
:p
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L481[14:43:04] <Gasher> heh
L482[14:43:05] <Eddi|zuHause> wikipedia
transcribes that as "[ˈfoɣəljɛˌzaŋk ɪn
ˈmaxtəˌbɔɐ̯ç]"
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L484[14:43:44] <Gasher> well at least that
makes it visible
L485[14:43:59] <Gasher> plus i totally
forgot that V is pronounced as F there
L486[14:44:18] <Gasher> like, in the start
of a word
L487[14:44:50] <Eddi|zuHause> so the 5 g's
here are: ɣ, j, k, x and ç
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L489[14:45:51] <Eddi|zuHause> and to a
german, the "x" is pretty much impossible to pronounce at
the beginning of a word
L490[14:46:10] <Althego> xenophobic
:)
L491[14:46:14] <Althego> ok, it is not an
x
L492[14:46:19] <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's not
:p
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L494[14:46:22] <Althego> if you say
it
L495[14:46:36] <Althego> xerxes?
L496[14:46:39] <Gasher> zenofobic
lol
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L498[14:46:58] <Althego> why would you be
afraid of zeno? i am not, but i hate zeno's paradox
L499[14:47:39] <Gasher> russian makes
these greek roots starting with x sound with a distinct ks
L500[14:48:02] <Eddi|zuHause> they
probably were "k"s back then
L501[14:48:09] <Althego> i would say it in
a similar way
L502[14:48:47] <Gasher> so i have hard
time listening to something and they mention xenon gas or even
Xerox machine which both are pronounced as Ksenon and Kseroks
here
L503[14:49:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd
pronounce all of those 'x'es like "ks"
L504[14:50:25] <sandbox_> kappa
L505[14:50:27] <Eddi|zuHause> which brings
us back to the original problem of english tending to drop these
hard beginnings
L506[14:50:28] <Althego> small insect is
climbing up on the monitor, but in the meantime it moves left and
right with around the same speed in a zigzag. i havent seen an
insect that walks sideways, looked funny
L507[14:50:51] <Eddi|zuHause> so a
"kn" becomes "n", a "pt" becomes
"t", a "ks" becomes "s", ...
L508[14:51:29] <Althego> yes ks seems ok
here too, but somehow english uses z instead
L509[14:52:01] <Gasher> maybe it's unusual
for them to start with two consonants?
L510[14:52:29] <Althego> they can say
christ
L511[14:52:49] <Eddi|zuHause> but they
morphed the "r" there instead
L512[14:52:49] <Althego> or cry
L513[14:53:02] <Althego> frame
L514[14:53:09] <Althego> ok it is somehow
with r
L515[14:53:23] <Althego> i cant think of
anyother examples now
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L528[15:42:16] <Fluburtur> did I show you
when I put on a fursuit head?
L529[15:42:25] <Fluburtur> it was surely
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L531[15:46:17] <KrazyKrl> i have plenty of
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L536[15:52:47] <Gasher> Fluburtur,
lol
L537[15:53:10] <Fluburtur> this thing is
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L538[15:53:24] <Fluburtur> can only see up
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cursed what are you talking about
L542[16:01:52] <KrazyKrl> that image is
cursed.
L543[16:02:09] <Fluburtur> it's just me
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L556[16:35:16] <Fluburtur> can I be shot
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L560[16:43:07] <UmbralRaptor> Fluburtur:
try sneaking onto the rocket just before launch?
L561[16:43:16] <Fluburtur> I could
try
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