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L9[00:19:12] <KrazyKrl> that's why you modify your irc client to change the /exit and /quit commands, where it just kicks back a simple message that states: "This command is depreciated. Use '/srslyexit' instead."
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L14[00:44:52] <Wastl2> For dropping some space tourists from LKO to Kerbin, is there any point in using reentry pods instead of crew cabins? A simple setup of parachute, crew cabin, heat shield seems to be both cheaper and lighter than parachute and reentry module.
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L21[02:05:30] <UmbralRaptop> If it works, go for it.
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L32[03:33:42] <taniwha> Wastl2: that's often what I do
L33[03:34:01] <taniwha> (or vaguely similar, to it, really)
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L37[04:48:43] <taniwha> Wastl2: the main thing is you need control and torque
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L39[04:55:27] <Wastl2> Spinning and torque? Is there a chance that they keep rolling and kill the passengers by centrifugal force?
L40[04:55:56] <taniwha> no, failing to keep the heatshield between the cabin and the air
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L44[04:56:57] <taniwha> and spin stabilisation is not perfect: all gyros precess
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L46[04:58:25] <Wastl2> I had asssumed that the heat shield's weight would take care of the orientation.
L47[04:58:45] <Wastl2> So far that's been working... for the six cabins I sent down that way.
L48[04:59:06] <taniwha> that certainly is possible
L49[05:00:03] <taniwha> perhaps I'm too used to FAR where every surface is a lifting surface
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L51[05:01:02] <taniwha> (not to say you can't make a stable reentry module out of a crew cabin, but care must be taken)
L52[05:01:53] <taniwha> (heatshield + mk1 crew cabin + mk1 cockpit + chutes does work, but is not particularly stable: need that pod torque)
L53[05:05:18] <Wastl2> For my first (and only other) flight with six passengers I had a long stick of cockpit, three crew cabins, heat shield... that required a lot of savescumming to get down intact.
L54[05:07:51] <Wastl2> Hence the redesign. :)
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L62[05:54:17] <sandbox> "Elon Musk offers to help Thai cave rescue"
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L66[06:42:52] <taniwha> and what will the Thai cave rescue?
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L69[07:04:57] <Eclipser> musk takes his boring company to thailand?
L70[07:18:00] <sandbox> it must be horrific to be trapped in a cave for days not knowing if you're ever going to be rescued
L71[07:22:22] <sandbox> I imagine they would be panicking about food or their batteries running out before the divers found them
L72[07:23:04] <sandbox> and they definitely wouldn't want to hear that one of the divers has died
L73[07:23:22] <Mat2ch> sandbox: things I don't want to try...
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L99[10:16:40] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/116eb937da9f26a1826a5d53fa590e13/tumblr_p27hr2v7nC1tknqsfo1_540.jpg
L100[10:40:53] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/236560222133551104/464817929943252993/20180706173508_1.jpg
L101[10:44:32] <legion> are they chasing yu?
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L121[12:59:39] <Neal> are there any mods that allow me to transfer ore/fuel/etc between vessels without docking them? like some sort of extension fuel hose?
L122[13:00:02] <Neal> I don't want to have to dock to my ore miner, I just want to land next to it
L123[13:03:36] <Neal> wow KAS hasn't been updated in 4 years
L124[13:10:23] <Deddly> Really?
L125[13:10:44] <Deddly> Which thread are you looking at, Neal?
L126[13:11:03] <Deddly> KAS is updated for 1.4 https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/142594-14-kerbal-attachment-system-kas-v064/
L127[13:11:21] <Deddly> And KAS should have the capability you are looking for
L128[13:12:52] <Neal> It was the one by Majir
L129[13:13:01] <Neal> https://github.com/Majiir/KAS
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L132[13:17:16] <Deddly> Well at least you have the correct one now instead of a really old one
L133[13:19:44] <Fluburtur> Deddly look https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448525358698987530/464857740989431828/DSC_9219.JPG
L134[13:21:08] <Deddly> I don't see any flying PC fans in that pic. What am I looking for? ;)
L135[13:21:17] <Fluburtur> that's coming
L136[13:21:22] <Fluburtur> I just need to order a motor
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L138[13:27:14] <Deddly> Moar boosters
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L141[13:53:00] <Althego> hehe, the scout is yaking shape
L142[13:56:21] * Deddly bows in a subservient manner
L143[13:57:30] <Deddlys_Boss> As well he should.
L144[13:59:29] <Althego> hmm, scott about indian space prgoram
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L150[14:06:20] <Althego> https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/07/the-case-for-enceladus-as-the-best-place-to-look-for-life-beyond-earth/
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L169[14:39:12] <APlayer> Althego: I am very excited and glad that chances are good for me to witness those missions and their science returns in my lifetime. The space hype is on. :D
L170[14:39:36] <Althego> we still need uranus and neptune orbiters
L171[14:39:44] <Althego> too bad only one is going to happen at best
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L174[14:43:33] <KrazyKrl> just send a cloud of cubesats that are each purpose built for one part of the mission
L175[14:43:56] <APlayer> A cubecloud
L176[14:44:18] <APlayer> That sounds like some space based internet storage and connection provider of the future
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L179[14:44:52] <APlayer> In fact, I may just tradename that brand, just in case I decide to make a company out of it one day
L180[14:45:36] <Althego> matroska brain
L181[14:45:50] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ1DaQgg3lE
L182[14:45:51] <kmath> YouTube - Vision-free MIT Cheetah
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L184[15:00:09] <APlayer> Althego: Horrible, fascinating, ingenious and scary at once
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L188[15:07:27] <Althego> what, the running robot?
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L190[15:16:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose cubesats are nice once they're in orbit, but you still have to get them there
L191[15:17:12] <Neal> I landed so hard that my ship now has phantom forces attached to it
L192[15:17:22] <Neal> it keep sliding across the surface at 1 m.s
L193[15:17:24] <Neal> m/s
L194[15:17:35] <JCB> A little anxious to get my new SDR radio tested on the laptop. Then just need a cord built, I can listen in on said cubesats
L195[15:17:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, there was probably a reason why they made new horizons a flyby and not an orbit
L196[15:18:19] <Neal> https://i.imgur.com/f0W3ccL.png
L197[15:18:20] <JCB> trade-offs...
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L199[15:18:54] <JCB> in order to get out there in reasonable time, had to go fast... slowing down would have taken a lot of DV to make orbit
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L203[15:35:38] <UmbralRaptop> =\ https://twitter.com/NASAKepler/status/1015283959285125120
L204[15:35:39] <kmath> <✔NASAKepler> The fuel is running very low on the spacecraft, and we're pausing observations so we can download some valuable sci… https://t.co/xoj9kTQRAk
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L220[16:08:14] <Draconiator> hmmmm....for some reason watching almost-dead batteries try to power something is oddly satisfying....in this case Casio CTK-471 vs. old wireless mouse batteries
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L223[16:19:00] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX0rXcAi684 - Had one of these a looooooong time ago, I remember we had to get rid of it when it started acting haunted...like it would play with no batteries installed for some reason.
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L225[16:21:49] <UmbralRaptop> moons https://twitter.com/GregroxMun/status/1015333984560140289
L226[16:21:49] <kmath> <GregroxMun> #Moons of #Jupiter. This time, it's the four irregular inner moons. These are football shaped chunks of reddish ice… https://t.co/QluQ2iDYbB
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L234[17:09:37] <ConductingCat> https://www.ebay.com/itm/123217274516
L235[17:19:01] <JCB> .... cute.. till they pull up the visors...
L236[17:19:01] <Rolf> junk
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L241[17:41:05] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/643ec2f74ccbc2b8e5e7f696868dd970.png - Basic is a pretty easy thing to learn. doing this weird thing for my TI-82 emulator heh
L242[17:41:36] <JCB> oooh.. caculator..
L243[17:42:00] <JCB> I've the 99/4A emulator myself... mostly because I grew up on it.
L244[17:45:04] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/d47f58b16b9f80b4e85d7d08c9a43780.png
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L250[18:15:56] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L251[18:19:09] <sandbox> nope
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L256[18:34:12] * darsie made a nice parachute flight at the nearby island (with the airstrip) tosee if the trees were part of new stock, but they must be some mod.
L257[18:36:12] <JCB> oh ..
L258[18:36:13] <JCB> no
L259[18:36:29] <JCB> go to settings in menu screen when you first load up
L260[18:36:41] <JCB> a setting for setting scatter density
L261[18:40:19] <darsie> Should I change Terrain detail and Terrain Scatters, too?
L262[18:46:29] <JCB> depends if system can handle the extra graphics
L263[18:46:33] <JCB> test it first?
L264[18:46:48] <JCB> terrain scatter is what gives you trees and other things on the surface..
L265[18:47:08] <JCB> but can end up loading when not close and covers a lot of ground
L266[18:47:32] <JCB> terrain detail is good ot have high.. found if you land on low setting, causes phantom jumping on anything but the runway
L267[18:54:11] <darsie> Terrain Detail high, Terrain Scatters check, Scatter Density 100%, restarted, no trees on that island.
L268[18:54:51] <darsie> 1.4.4.2215 Linux
L269[18:55:40] <JCB> trees aren't everywhere
L270[18:55:50] <JCB> I'm also win64bit
L271[18:56:03] <JCB> ugh.. room mate wants help with something. gotta go, sorries.
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L273[18:56:44] <darsie> Linux 64
L274[18:57:15] <darsie> looking somewhere else for trees, then...
L275[19:00:02] <KrazyKrl> well, it depends on if the ground scatter objects are pre-placed; or if they are deterministically placed via something like PRNG.
L276[19:00:23] <KrazyKrl> And then they may be tied to biomes. I dunno exactly how ground scatters are implemented.
L277[19:09:56] <darsie> Yay, loads of trees near the Mountains near KSC.
L278[19:14:14] <darsie> Is there an FPS counter?
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L283[19:35:31] <darsie> The grass is impressive, too, on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot115.png
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L309[22:58:46] <Guest08450> I have a satellite speed question anyone on?
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L311[22:59:48] <Guest08450> Hello?
L312[23:01:19] <JCB> hmm?
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L314[23:02:15] <Guest08450> I watched a satellite moving at probably a 4th the speed of any I've watched before. I've always assumed they travel at nearly the same speed. Any easy answer?
L315[23:02:56] <JCB> ... saw something from the ground flying over head, probably a point of light in the sky?
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L317[23:04:08] <Guest08450> Yes. A tumbling satellite, not a blinking plane
L318[23:04:19] <JCB> lol.. tumbling
L319[23:04:42] <Guest08450> Spinning???
L320[23:05:00] <JCB> depends on the design.. some don't even really move that much
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L322[23:05:55] <JCB> was it straight up over head or more towards the horizon?
L323[23:07:03] <Guest08450> Straight up. Just never seen one go so slow. I have seen them change direction before
L324[23:07:24] <Guest08450> Always looking up...
L325[23:07:34] <JCB> first off.. they don't just change direction
L326[23:08:19] <Guest08450> Small flash of light and changed 90°
L327[23:08:39] <Guest08450> Not a ufo guy I swear
L328[23:08:57] <JCB> not saying ufo..
L329[23:09:18] <JCB> just saying.. satellites don't change direction in flight.. and not by 90 degrees in a moments notice like you describe
L330[23:09:54] <JCB> they going nearly 8km/s to start with
L331[23:10:26] <mabus> i saw a totally bizarre light in the sky i thought was a helicopter the other day, but it wasnt moving
L332[23:10:36] <mabus> after a little research, consulting this channel and some software
L333[23:10:38] <mabus> it was mars!
L334[23:10:39] <Guest08450> Off topic. Could I have seen a satellite in an elliptical orbit and it seemed slow?
L335[23:11:38] <JCB> venus can be pretty bright too
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L337[23:12:31] <JCB> don't know... depends. The further out something is, harder it is to see with sunlight reflection.. size also affects things, bigger it is, easier it is to see.
L338[23:12:37] <JCB> oh well
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L361[23:36:48] <Bllaank> Where would I go to check the orbit of Elon Musk's Cherry Red Tesla Roadster?
L362[23:37:51] <Althego> there are no updates on it since it cant be found anymore
L363[23:39:16] <Bllaank> Well they had the old orbit, shouldn't they be able to estimate where it is? I know there will be errors.
L364[23:42:26] <Althego> you could search for 2018-017A
L365[23:42:55] <JCB> was a website that estimated
L366[23:43:08] <JCB> http://www.whereisroadster.com/
L367[23:43:17] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQdSGQajj0
L368[23:43:18] <kmath> YouTube - How Do I Know This is the Falcon Heavy Second Stage?
L369[23:46:09] <Draconiator> I'm pretty sure it's just a scrap of metal now.
L370[23:46:22] <Althego> scrap of plastic
L371[23:46:43] <Althego> we know the sun is going to destroy its plastic exterior
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