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L1[00:04:05] <Althego> https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/visitor-from-another-solar-system-may-have-been-a-comet/
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L3[00:07:05] <Althego> https://newatlas.com/stuntronics-disney-robotic-stunt-double/55270/
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L19[02:41:22] <Glass|phone> me: "do you only ever watch videos?" friend switches tab, clicks around randomly in read only file
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L29[02:59:05] <UmbralRaptop> Glass|phone: o_O
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L60[06:02:10] <darsie> .
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L74[07:04:01] <JCB> bleh..
L75[07:06:02] <legion> meh.
L76[07:09:53] <UmbralRaptop> "doomed hot Jupiter"
L77[07:10:28] <UmbralRaptop> eg: WASP-18b
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L112[11:08:08] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/7996684598f88f99921f7e36efe93435/tumblr_pb5f9tP9J51s1vn29o1_540.jpg
L113[11:08:22] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/56fbf445e08d48fc10fbb3849a3829f7/tumblr_pb5f9tP9J51s1vn29o4_540.jpg
L114[11:08:29] <gammarayburst> how many kerbals did you kill today?
L115[11:08:54] <Althego> none
L116[11:08:59] <gammarayburst> hilarious pics there
L117[11:09:07] <Althego> i saw thise a while ago
L118[11:09:11] <Althego> these
L119[11:09:38] <gammarayburst> a day without kerbal being murdered is a day that is ashamed of itself
L120[11:09:57] <Althego> https://www.facebook.com/greenpeacefrance/videos/10156581621617458/
L121[11:11:36] <Mat2ch> ew, facebook :P
L122[11:12:28] <Althego> wanted the original source
L123[11:12:45] <Althego> but anyway, some people flew a drone to a french nuclear reactor building
L124[11:12:54] <Althego> showing that it is completely defenseless
L125[11:13:33] <Fluburtur> it's technically not forebiden to fly over a nuclear reactor
L126[11:13:40] <Fluburtur> just, really not advised
L127[11:14:40] <gammarayburst> does any nuke powerplants have ground to air defense systems?
L128[11:14:52] <Althego> dont think so
L129[11:14:52] <Fluburtur> some of them probably have the jammer guns but those are a joke
L130[11:15:00] <Althego> at least until the first terrorist flies into it
L131[11:15:18] <Fluburtur> and if I know of any close to me that has one, I will build a rc plane made to prove the jamemr gun is useless crap
L132[11:16:00] <gammarayburst> has anyone put a spacecraft in a lagrange point with principia?
L133[11:16:27] <Althego> hehe, wolfie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4SwHsv3bdw
L134[11:16:28] <kmath> YouTube - So Flat Earthers... you want to explain that horizon rising to eye level to me again?
L135[11:17:04] <Althego> too bad i havent flown since i learned the existence of modern flat earthers. i was flying many time a year before
L136[11:18:12] <gammarayburst> how can these people convince themselves that the earth is flat?
L137[11:18:37] <Fluburtur> they want to feel smart
L138[11:19:02] <Fluburtur> like "oh im not a sheeple like you I think for myself" but you see, doesn't work out that well
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L140[11:20:23] <Althego> good, being close to him was dangerous :)
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L148[11:42:54] <Fluburtur> I should get some ribs cut from 2mm plywood for my fiberglass planes
L149[11:43:03] <Fluburtur> laser cut perhaps
L150[11:43:13] <Fluburtur> for wing ribs and sue internal structure
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L152[12:00:22] <legion> ey Fluburtur, i got myself a rc helicopter recently :)
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L154[12:02:58] <Fluburtur> nice
L155[12:03:03] <Fluburtur> a good one?
L156[12:04:32] <legion> no idea, it is quite big though
L157[12:04:48] <Fluburtur> pics?
L158[12:05:09] <legion> none yet, though lemme google a bit.
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L160[12:07:46] <legion> https://www.hobbywarehouse.com.au/double-horse-9053-volitation-ex-demonstration-rc-helicopter.html it is one of these (except in blue)
L161[12:08:15] <Fluburtur> eh, guess that's not too bad for a coaxial
L162[12:08:25] <Fluburtur> look at the v950, very nice entry to CP helis
L163[12:09:11] <legion> i got it at a fleamarket for only 15Euro...
L164[12:09:17] <Fluburtur> nice
L165[12:10:07] <legion> i do have a smaller version of that too, except i have just the helo, no controller or charger for it
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L170[12:21:28] <Fluburtur> htis one is pretty nice https://www.banggood.com/WLtoys-V950-2_4G-6CH-3D6G-System-Brushless-Flybarless-RC-Helicopter-RTF-p-1080417.html?rmmds=search
L171[12:21:55] <Fluburtur> flies like a real once since CP head and good flight time too
L172[12:22:01] <Fluburtur> I need to order spares for mine
L173[12:23:52] <Fluburtur> less scary than flying the 450 too
L174[12:25:09] <Fluburtur> v950 and trex 450 for scale https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/461566555201994752/DSC_9217.JPG
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L177[12:26:10] <UmbralRaptop> Fluburtur: so I ran into some Canada geese in Cambridge. The european ones have way more chill than their north american counterparts.
L178[12:26:27] <Fluburtur> yeah they are pretty cool
L179[12:26:42] <Fluburtur> guess they become worse when you go closer tot he evil epicenter in canada
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L181[12:47:06] <Althego> i am so lay that i have been planning to check whether i can go up to the roof for months and i havent taken a step in that direction (literally, have to climb up to the highest floor 4th or 5th depending on where your zero is)
L182[12:52:11] <APlayer> Fluburtur: That's because they get worse when close to Mordoronto
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L190[13:04:55] <Neal> anyone have tips on landing in the canyons?
L191[13:05:27] <BPlayer> On what planet?
L192[13:05:37] <Althego> dont do that :)
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L194[13:07:52] <darsie> Get a canoe.
L195[13:08:13] <Neal> the mun's canyons
L196[13:08:27] <Neal> I keep forgetting the mun has much more gravity than minmus
L197[13:08:28] <darsie> Why not minmus?
L198[13:08:43] <darsie> ohh, this is #kspofficial :)
L199[13:08:58] <darsie> Neal: Aim, burn retrograde.
L200[13:09:09] <darsie> fail, retry
L201[13:10:47] <APlayer> Neal: I suggest aligning your orbit for a pass directly over a canyon. Then, constant altitude burn to kill all horizontal velocity while still directly over the canyon. Adjust burn direction as necessary. Finally, land via suicide burn.
L202[13:11:05] <Neal> did it first try somehow
L203[13:11:06] <APlayer> kOS, MechJeb or similar recommended.
L204[13:11:11] <APlayer> Pics? :D
L205[13:11:42] <Neal> https://i.imgur.com/6J7RNDY.png
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L207[13:12:09] <Neal> I used more fuel than I anticipated and I'm not sure if I'll be able to rendezvous with my orbital research station...
L208[13:12:35] <canisin> hello all, is the official forums down?
L209[13:13:45] <Azander> hmmm Seems to be :(
L210[13:15:32] <canisin> thanks
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L212[13:16:09] <APlayer> canisin: Perhaps we may help you here?
L213[13:16:17] <darsie> Neal: 932 m/s should get you well in Mun orbit.
L214[13:16:44] <darsie> Maybe even back to Kerbin.
L215[13:16:44] <canisin> APlayer, thanks
L216[13:17:17] <darsie> Neal: Is that a spark engine?
L217[13:17:21] <Neal> darsie, my station is at 54km, do you think that's enough?
L218[13:17:27] <darsie> yeah
L219[13:17:27] <canisin> I was gonna check if there was any follow up on a few particular mod threads
L220[13:17:39] <Neal> it is a spark
L221[13:17:40] <APlayer> Neal: Nice stuff! The delta-V you have is plenty to return to Kerbin if all other things fail
L222[13:17:57] <canisin> and also, i wanted to research how to strip down an installation copy for fast loading so i can do some mod testing
L223[13:18:03] <APlayer> Definitely enough for a low munar orbit rendezvous
L224[13:18:29] <APlayer> canisin: I think you're best off using a fresh install for the latter
L225[13:18:44] <bees> Neal: easiest solution - add thrust to your lander and brake almost instantly above canyon
L226[13:18:54] <darsie> Neal: Do you need a large plane change?
L227[13:19:03] <Neal> only a degree or two
L228[13:19:08] <darsie> you're fine
L229[13:19:20] <darsie> Launch at the right moment.
L230[13:19:24] <Neal> I'm a little worried about RCS levels because I'm so bad at docking lol
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L232[13:19:35] <Neal> if anything I have a RCS tug attached to my staion
L233[13:19:41] <darsie> press F5 in time.
L234[13:19:46] <APlayer> On the Mun, even a launch from 20 or 30° or so of inclination to an equatorial orbit is fine with that dV
L235[13:20:10] <APlayer> Neal: RCS can be largely substituted with your engine
L236[13:20:54] <APlayer> Other than that, use maneuver nodes, make sure you have an approach that is off-the-scale close (< 100 m), execute, time warp, kill velocity, dock
L237[13:22:14] <APlayer> Also, if you're low on RCS fuel, go the patient route and save fuel with a slower docking trajectory
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L239[13:22:56] <canisin> aplayer thanks!
L240[13:23:54] <APlayer> o/
L241[13:26:35] <darsie> Neal: Turn off SAS for attitude changes and turn back on when you are at/near the desired attitude. Umm, if you have a reaction wheel, ignore that. Or turn off rcs for attitude control.
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L243[13:33:01] <darsie> Neal: Your TWR is 3.6, so you're good there, too.
L244[13:33:39] <APlayer> Lander seems fine to me in all aspects. And, I repeat, enough delta v to return to Kerbin if docking fails, so you even have a solid plan B
L245[13:34:22] <darsie> It's ugly, though. Lot of part overlap.
L246[13:34:26] <Neal> beautiful timing. https://i.imgur.com/Dz8keB9.png
L247[13:34:47] <darsie> :)
L248[13:35:23] <Neal> I need to abandon this lander though, not enough fuel reserves
L249[13:35:41] <Neal> once I get another lander launched I'm going to crash this one into the mun
L250[13:36:04] <darsie> Why did you fly back up?
L251[13:36:59] <Neal> had to return some science data to my processing lab in orbit
L252[13:38:49] <APlayer> Neal: You should be good for return to Kerbin, aerobraking & low orbit with that lander. You might be able to refuel it in LKO
L253[13:40:09] <Neal> my station has about 3200 ox, 2600 fuel, and 600 monoprop onboard so it will be fine
L254[13:41:43] <APlayer> Why do you abandon it, then?
L255[13:42:13] <Neal> https://i.imgur.com/NlC4GDl.png
L256[13:42:14] <APlayer> At worst, you can use it to ferry crew and fuel between LKO and the Mun. Though the science parts do add dead weight.
L257[13:42:29] <Neal> I plan on making several trips to the mun's surface to explore
L258[13:42:41] <Neal> also it doesn't have all the parts I've researched yet
L259[13:43:08] <APlayer> So you mostly want to upgrade it?
L260[13:43:08] <Neal> it's just obsolete
L261[13:43:13] <APlayer> Alright then
L262[13:43:29] <APlayer> Perhaps recycle it as a station escape pod ;-)
L263[13:43:47] <Neal> it's just sitting there wasting docking space haha
L264[13:44:35] * APlayer is always reluctant when decommissioning old hardware
L265[13:45:03] <Neal> having clutter in orbit makes it hard to select maneuver nodes and targets
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L267[13:47:50] <Neal> putting that rockomax x200-32 and adjoining 2.5-1.25m fuel adapters into mun orbit was a pain
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L269[13:49:49] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot92.png ;)
L270[13:50:53] <darsie> Two large 81 t Kerbodyne tanks.
L271[13:50:56] <APlayer> darsie: I presume at least one of those reaches the Mun?
L272[13:51:08] <darsie> They are not for mun.
L273[13:51:22] <APlayer> But rather?
L274[13:51:22] <darsie> Ahh, yeah, I guess one would.
L275[13:51:42] * APlayer is also curious about all sorts of things
L276[13:51:45] <darsie> Dunno. I think my brother wanted a fuel depot and so I tried this.
L277[13:52:02] <darsie> I'm mostly done with KSP, unfortunately.
L278[13:52:22] <APlayer> No time?
L279[13:52:29] <darsie> No incentive.
L280[13:52:36] <APlayer> Humm
L281[13:53:03] <darsie> Achieved most goals.
L282[13:54:01] <Neal> my endgame is to have a self sustaining research station around/on Eeloo
L283[13:54:02] <darsie> Asteroid to Kerbin orbit, sample return from Eve and Eeloo ...
L284[13:55:12] <APlayer> You may want to check out RSS and kOS. I rediscovered KSP down to building launch vehicles with those mods. :-)
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L286[13:55:42] <APlayer> (Obviously, just the two would be unreasonable, but you can still have a minimally modded setup with them)
L287[13:56:07] <darsie> Yeah, I tried RSS/RO/RP-0. Was nice, but tough and tedious.
L288[13:56:29] <darsie> I think I stopped when KSP crashed too much and restarts took too long.
L289[13:56:54] <APlayer> Indeed, my KSP mostly crashes if I revert too often
L290[13:57:47] <Neal> still haven't gotten a crash in a while suprisingly, my mods are 2-3 versions out of date
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L310[16:14:10] <Guest27767> Hello
L311[16:14:12] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest27767
L312[16:14:21] <Guest27767> Alright?
L313[16:14:36] <Guest27767> Cool
L314[16:14:47] <Guest27767> Can I ask a question?
L315[16:14:56] <snow> don't ask to ask, just ask :-)
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L317[16:15:30] <Guest27767> What controls do I have to use to launch a rocket in Kerbal for PS4?
L318[16:16:25] <BenjaminK> There should be a control listing in the wiki
L319[16:16:39] <Guest27767> Okay thanks!
L320[16:16:44] <BenjaminK> other than that *I* cant help you
L321[16:16:54] <BenjaminK> but check and report back!
L322[16:17:09] <snow> I have 0 experience with it on PS4, but a quick google suggests the X button for staging
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L324[16:17:31] <BenjaminK> o7
L325[16:17:36] <BenjaminK> :V
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L357[20:22:15] <Tank2333> o/
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L360[20:28:40] <Eddi|zuHause> i find that the game is really terrible about telling you the controls in general. and you can't change the keybindings from within the game
L361[20:30:23] <Eddi|zuHause> like, i never get along with the hjklin keys for RCS control, but i can also not adjust them while i'm in a situation where i could test if the new one i came up with is better
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L363[20:31:14] <Eddi|zuHause> the turnaround time between changing and testing gets too high
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L370[20:38:28] <GlassYuri> the joy of modular code: I added a system to my game where you can edit objects in another objects local coordinate system. it *kind of* works even if that other object is a moving train.
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L374[20:49:38] <JCB> -blink blink- umm.. k
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L382[21:06:07] <Eddi|zuHause> coordinate transformation are a tiny bit fun to program, if you have the slightest clue of linear algebra :p
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L396[21:41:00] <Tank2333> algea bra
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L407[22:11:34] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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