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L1[00:00:40] <tawny> at that size, wouldn't they be liable to break if you breathe on them a little too hard
L2[00:04:26] <Rokker> Althego: that url confused me a lot
L3[00:04:52] <Rokker> i couldnt figure out why they were saying that they were immigrant scientists
L4[00:06:18] <taniwha> tawny: no, because they will be so small it will be difficult to apply any pressure on them
L5[00:06:35] <tawny> I was thinking more about temperature
L6[00:06:55] <tawny> but I guess you'd have to intentionally try to break something that small in any way
L7[00:07:20] <tawny> wait are we inventing flying nanobot swarm clouds here
L8[00:07:24] <tawny> is that what this is gonna become
L9[00:08:38] <Althego> lol
L10[00:09:25] <Althego> immigrant scientists.... there are a lot
L11[00:09:42] <tawny> oh
L12[00:09:49] <tawny> oh no I read the article and I see the word "blockchain"
L13[00:09:55] <tawny> and I immediately hate it
L14[00:09:56] <Althego> you dont want flying or any kind of nanobot swarm. it would become like in the invincible by lem
L15[00:11:21] <tawny> yeah, I think I read a michael crichton book about that
L16[00:11:26] <tawny> everyone died
L17[00:12:44] <tawny> honestly I could probably say that about any technological advancement
L18[00:12:50] <taniwha> while it might be tough to break a nanobot, I just realised they might be quite vulnerable to white blood cells and antibodies
L19[00:12:57] <tawny> "michael crichton wrote a book about that where people died"
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L21[00:14:27] <taniwha> heck, even the oxygen content of blood might be enough to give nanobots a bad day
L22[00:14:56] <Althego> your whole blood contains a few grams of oxygen, not muich
L23[00:15:46] <taniwha> blood will happily accelerate rusting on steel
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L29[01:45:35] <TheKosmonaut> What's the name for that trajectory you would use in spaceflight where you will constantly accelerate to a point, and then begin slowing yourself?
L30[01:45:41] <TheKosmonaut> Bra something
L31[01:45:50] <Gasher[work]> brachi-something even
L32[01:45:59] <TheKosmonaut> Brachistro?
L33[01:46:03] <Gasher[work]> and chron
L34[01:46:15] <Gasher[work]> brachistochron-something
L35[01:46:19] <TheKosmonaut> Brachistochrone?
L36[01:46:32] <Gasher[work]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve
L37[01:46:33] <Gasher[work]> yep
L38[01:46:42] <TheKosmonaut> There we go
L39[01:47:20] <TheKosmonaut> Hm, I wanna try that in KSP with an interstellar or near future engine
L40[01:47:31] <TheKosmonaut> Even then, I dunno if any of them make it worthwhile.
L41[01:47:52] <Gasher[work]> you'd need either a huge TWR or a short distance
L42[01:48:16] <Gasher[work]> or too much free time lol
L43[01:48:26] <Althego> basically as ships in expanse go
L44[01:49:13] <TheKosmonaut> hm, is there an Epstein drive mod yet?
L45[01:49:14] <TheKosmonaut> haha
L46[01:50:45] <ConductorCat> ;mission
L47[01:51:18] <ConductorCat> ;=;
L48[01:51:20] * TheKosmonaut laughs in oppressive moderator
L49[01:52:10] <ConductorCat> No Brachiosaur today.
L50[01:53:18] <Althego> ;yes mission had half of a sentence with that brachisomething word
L51[01:53:25] <Althego> what i cant remember
L52[01:54:14] <ConductorCat> I remember writing one.
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L57[02:28:43] <TheKosmonaut> https://imgur.com/a/VYRnzGY
L58[02:28:49] <TheKosmonaut> working on a new spaceplane
L59[02:28:59] <TheKosmonaut> Trying to make it more aesthetic than functional
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L61[02:36:40] <Althego> then why are yo ubuilding a rocket with wings?
L62[02:37:01] <Althego> is there a gate on it?
L63[02:37:21] <Althego> wait, the gate iw where to plane stops at the airport
L64[02:37:29] <Althego> and that is its gate
L65[02:39:19] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: because it's gonna attach to another plane for orbit
L66[02:39:24] <TheKosmonaut> (not an SSTO)
L67[02:41:58] <Althego> no, i meant why is it ugly if you are going for aesthetics
L68[02:42:35] <TheKosmonaut> Oh
L69[02:42:37] <TheKosmonaut> Well
L70[02:42:41] <TheKosmonaut> That's nice of you
L71[02:43:10] <TheKosmonaut> What gate are you even talking about
L72[02:43:24] <Althego> you are still in the acceptable range, far from the transitbiker monsters
L73[02:44:21] <TheKosmonaut> It's meant to be less smooth and sleek and more of a chunky ship think 70s, not 00s star wars
L74[02:44:30] <Althego> i see
L75[02:44:54] <Althego> looks more like 50s sci fi rocket
L76[02:45:04] <Althego> or captain proton :)
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L78[02:51:58] <TheKosmonaut> ... what kind of obnoxious person brings a mechanical keyboard to a cafe?
L79[02:52:06] <TheKosmonaut> This dude over here, across from me
L80[02:52:29] <TheKosmonaut> He's got freaking Blues
L81[02:52:44] <TheKosmonaut> I have earphones in and can hear it
L82[02:54:21] <mr_flea> wow, what a dick
L83[02:54:41] <mr_flea> all my mechanical boards are clears, because who wants to listen to that
L84[02:55:30] <TheKosmonaut> he's typing like he's mad too
L85[02:55:37] <Althego> >hehe
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L87[02:59:33] <KrimZon_2> I've been typing on tactile greys lately
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L91[03:00:49] <KrimZon_2> they're probably the quietest thing I have because it's easy to not bottom out
L92[03:04:52] <TheKosmonaut> welp
L93[03:04:55] <TheKosmonaut> flight test 2
L94[03:05:06] <TheKosmonaut> Abort, now my plane is in an inverted flatspin
L95[03:05:18] <TheKosmonaut> and it seems that my rudder broke in the abort
L96[03:06:35] <TheKosmonaut> The blackbox survived!
L97[03:06:39] <Althego> hehe
L98[03:06:52] <TheKosmonaut> ...and the blackbox is rolling away from the crash site
L99[03:07:00] <Althego> running away
L100[03:07:01] <Althego> catch it
L101[03:07:04] <TheKosmonaut> it seems mechjeb has better survival instincts than most kerbals
L102[03:07:14] <Althego> or most humans
L103[03:07:26] <Althego> humans see wreckage and go towards it
L104[03:07:47] <Althego> may explode or leak toxic fuels
L105[03:07:51] <TheKosmonaut> gotta breathe in those toxic chemicals
L106[03:07:56] <Gasher[work]> hey, when i did that i got a cool pics of a 100m high gas fire jet
L107[03:08:03] <TheKosmonaut> I heard it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience
L108[03:08:23] <Gasher[work]> i hope so lol
L109[03:08:54] <Althego> hehe, like in the joke. what do you do if you see a nuclear flash? take a good look at it, because it is once in a lifetime
L110[03:09:44] <Gasher[work]> "if you see the flash it's already too late"
L111[03:09:53] <Althego> obviously
L112[03:09:59] <Althego> hence the joke
L113[03:10:01] <Gasher[work]> well i guess it would be the last thing you'd see even if you survive lol
L114[03:10:34] <Althego> what i find it funny that the radiation what the chain reaction givees off is always seen as a blue flash by humans, because of the cherenkov radiation generated inside the eyeballs
L115[03:11:25] <Gasher[work]> em, you can see taht on videos
L116[03:11:34] <Gasher[work]> so also in camera matrices
L117[03:35:08] <TheKosmonaut> ...
L118[03:35:17] <TheKosmonaut> at some point I removed my ctrl surfaces to change something else
L119[03:35:37] <TheKosmonaut> next test flight, this time a Horizontal take-off, I was wondering why I couldnt rotate off the runway
L120[03:36:27] <Gasher[work]> so you Del your Ctrl surfaces?
L121[03:36:46] <TheKosmonaut> Evidently.
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L124[04:37:31] <Eddi|zuHause> <Althego> hehe, like in the joke. what do you do if you see a nuclear flash? take a good look at it, because it is once in a lifetime <-- it's not a joke, back when i was in the military, that was the actual order. if you see a nuclear explosion, you stay there and observe it
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L131[05:31:21] <GlassYuri> past and present (2016 and 2017) https://twitter.com/G8zkyO5xe7SPAhw/status/999223520239304704
L132[05:31:22] <kmath> <G8zkyO5xe7SPAhw> 阜新砿务局の今昔 ⏎ 蒸気機関車は2016年 ⏎ DF5Dは2017年 https://t.co/3loCpLxQQy
L133[05:40:49] <Althego> old lamp is constant
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L135[05:43:48] <Althego> Eddi|zuHause: it was a joke about the military
L136[05:43:57] <Althego> so maybe it really was not one
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L164[10:04:09] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: sometimes the best jokes are the ones that aren't :p
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L167[10:18:59] <Althego> so they didnt manage to catch the fairing
L168[10:19:17] <Althego> i guess that shp is not fast enough
L169[10:24:04] <ve2dmn> They need a bigger boat
L170[10:24:12] <Althego> hehe
L171[10:26:20] <ve2dmn> Interesting Skeptoid episode on Zuma payload
L172[10:27:19] <ve2dmn> TL;DR: we can only speculate, as much of the facts are classified
L173[10:27:35] <Althego> maybe it is secret for 40 years or so
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L175[10:28:11] <Althego> and after that it will be disclosed that somebody did some really dumb thing and that is the reason of failure
L176[10:28:29] <ve2dmn> Well... he does reference a similar sat that was a 'secret satelitte' with a cover story...
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L178[10:30:40] <ve2dmn> The invisible tech is simple: a mirror that deflect most radiation... but it's not 100% invisible
L179[10:31:07] <Althego> that would block stars behind it
L180[10:31:16] <ve2dmn> it did
L181[10:31:41] <ve2dmn> it was called MISTY-1
L182[10:34:06] <ve2dmn> Most likely, though, Zuma was a next gen realtime military tracking sat that blew up over africa because the payload didn't detach
L183[10:35:04] <ve2dmn> But... We can talk all we want, but we don't know. And those who know won't talk.
L184[10:35:31] <ve2dmn> Interesting tech story, but the rest of it is 'meh' to me
L185[10:37:01] <Althego> why does it matter what it was if it does not exist now?
L186[10:37:25] <Althego> or rather shy keep secret the cause of failure? regardless of the mission itself
L187[10:41:18] <ve2dmn> Because it is to be a constellation of such sats
L188[10:47:18] <ve2dmn> And the 'default' stance in the Military is 'If it not public knowledge, it's classified'
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L190[10:50:35] <ve2dmn> Althego: if you want to read it (or listen to the podcast like I did) it's at https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4624
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L208[11:48:25] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/122184e77dd85e853bcbe46454407812/tumblr_inline_otdabtgKMM1qjo0zq_540.png
L209[11:48:40] <Althego> what
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L211[11:51:34] <Isaskar_> hello
L212[11:52:02] <Isaskar_> the bot is gone
L213[11:52:26] <Althego> good
L214[11:53:15] <Isaskar_> quick question what are space stations good for?
L215[11:53:28] <Fluburtur> looking nice
L216[11:53:37] <Fluburtur> docking practice
L217[11:53:39] <Fluburtur> fuel depot
L218[11:53:42] <darsie> To get money, science?, reputation.
L219[11:53:43] <Althego> in ksp? currently not much. at best they can run the science lab thing
L220[11:53:52] <Fluburtur> turning them into a ship and sending them to another planet
L221[11:54:12] <Fluburtur> I disabled the DSN in my game so all my vessels are controlled from my station
L222[11:54:13] <Isaskar_> and what about the satelites?
L223[11:54:26] <Fluburtur> Val has her brain plugged intot he mainframe and controls like 100 probes
L224[11:54:39] <darsie> I put space stations in orbit for contracts and terminated them right after.
L225[11:55:43] <darsie> Isaskar_: Now an asteroid with drill and refinery can refuel ships in LKO. I did that for my Eve sample return.
L226[11:56:04] <Isaskar_> cool
L227[11:56:10] <Isaskar_> is that infinate fule?
L228[11:56:14] <Isaskar_> fuel*
L229[11:56:17] <darsie> I also refueled at Gilly and Eve.
L230[11:56:23] <darsie> No, the asteroid gets used up.
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L233[11:56:48] <Isaskar_> can someone help me build a submarene?
L234[11:57:26] <Althego> use ore containers, fill them with ore. add jet engines and fuel. some wheels to ge it to the water
L235[11:57:26] <darsie> With stock part?
L236[11:57:47] <Isaskar_> with nonmoded yes?
L237[11:58:04] <Fluburtur> yeah
L238[11:58:11] <darsie> I've used micronodes as ballast, but many micronodes are very flexible.
L239[11:58:11] <Fluburtur> lemme grab a pic of my best sub
L240[11:59:43] <darsie> Hmm, I wonder if you could build a propeller with angled wings or so.
L241[11:59:53] <Althego> you can
L242[12:00:03] <Althego> there are everal ways
L243[12:00:07] <darsie> I've built an axle with reaction wheel and wings like a Mississippi ship.
L244[12:00:09] <Althego> inside fairing
L245[12:00:12] <Fluburtur> my station https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382948062877843457/448892886285549568/20171224141722_1.jpg
L246[12:00:16] <Althego> inside hollow tube thing
L247[12:00:33] <Althego> that is not sub, but station
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L249[12:01:16] <Fluburtur> idk where my sub pictures went
L250[12:01:19] <Isaskar_> thats anamazing station
L251[12:02:10] <Fluburtur> that's not a sub either but it was fun to try https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382948062877843457/448893376079593492/20170114172324_1.jpg
L252[12:03:32] <Isaskar_> also i dont know what half the parts are used for
L253[12:03:42] <Fluburtur> my sub https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382948062877843457/448893778976047104/2015-11-20_00011.jpg
L254[12:03:52] <Fluburtur> this is an older version however, I made it look cleaner now
L255[12:05:33] <Isaskar_> it looks like a plane
L256[12:05:54] <Althego> it's bicycle repair man
L257[12:06:06] <Fluburtur> water is basically very dense air in ksp
L258[12:06:30] <Fluburtur> my first submarine was actually a plane that I landed on water and then discovered it could go to the bottom of the ocean
L259[12:07:25] <ve2dmn> my sub: https://www.jerseymikes.com/media/static/menu/products/lg/5-super-sub-reg.jpg
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L261[12:08:00] <Althego> i think that was my first sub when buoyancy was fixed http://warpology.com/k/subtest.mp4
L262[12:08:34] <Fluburtur> seems rather fast
L263[12:09:47] <Althego> http://www.warpology.com/k/jump.mp4
L264[12:10:10] <Fluburtur> nice whale
L265[12:10:32] <Althego> but this was long time ago. since then i sent subs to laythe and eve too
L266[12:12:16] <Althego> and here is the prop http://www.warpology.com/k/prop.mp4
L267[12:12:35] <Althego> bit ugly but the only one i could make work
L268[12:13:01] <Althego> those fancy tube ones never worked for me
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L270[12:14:29] <Isaskar_> whats a good thing to have in mind when building a submarene
L271[12:15:38] <Fluburtur> heavy
L272[12:15:49] <Fluburtur> use wheesleys too so you have a long run time
L273[12:15:58] <Fluburtur> mine could go for one hour then I had to refuel
L274[12:16:22] <Fluburtur> mine are slightly lighter than water so the wings are used for steering and kepping them in a straight line underwater
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L276[12:16:45] <Althego> i would make them slightly heavier, because they get lighter as fuel runs out
L277[12:17:20] <Fluburtur> never actually made a heavyier sub
L278[12:17:47] <Fluburtur> actually mine are probably spot on but they have all the fuel at the back so they want to float rear up when im stopping underwater
L279[12:19:26] <Isaskar_> i think i built a underwater car
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L281[12:19:57] <Fluburtur> https://www.amazon.com/GIWOX-Hologram-Advertising-Display-Holographic/dp/B077YD59RN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=rpffacebook-20&linkId=414a992ece948cf95e09fabf44d213d6
L282[12:20:03] <Fluburtur> I could make that for like 10 wtf
L283[12:20:20] <Fluburtur> peoples are really ready to buy anything
L284[12:20:48] <Fluburtur> I could probably put LED blades on my heli so I can put pictures on the rotor disc
L285[12:22:19] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSuGzZ5jXJc
L286[12:22:20] <kmath> YouTube - Amazing Night Magic Blade show
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L289[12:31:35] <ve2dmn> Isaskar_: where do you hail from?
L290[12:31:45] <Isaskar_> hail?
L291[12:31:56] <ve2dmn> where are you from?
L292[12:32:07] <ve2dmn> Se?
L293[12:32:14] <Isaskar_> sweden
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L295[12:32:58] <ve2dmn> I was trying to guess the language based on how you typed 'submarene' and I was drawing a blank
L296[12:35:29] <Isaskar_> it can also be duslexia
L297[12:38:14] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: still no new Wintergatan vid :|
L298[12:38:45] <Fluburtur> yeah
L299[12:38:54] <Mat2ch> I wonder what's up
L300[12:40:13] <ve2dmn> does he have a twitter/Patreon/other way to communicate?
L301[12:40:29] <Isaskar_> what to build?
L302[12:40:39] <Isaskar_> that is easy
L303[12:40:40] <ve2dmn> Isaskar_: EVERYTHING!
L304[12:40:59] <Isaskar_> iv only played a few weeks
L305[12:42:29] <ve2dmn> I've played 1700h and I still think I'm crap
L306[12:42:56] <ve2dmn> (which is why I turned to kOS to automate everything)
L307[12:43:02] <Isaskar_> i bet your better than me
L308[12:44:25] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: discord or so
L309[12:44:44] <Mat2ch> Isaskar_: SSTOs!
L310[12:44:54] <ve2dmn> I have experience in the game, but I'm not very good at planes
L311[12:45:41] <ve2dmn> I'm always afraid of not having enough fuel, so my design tend to lack TWR...
L312[12:46:19] <ve2dmn> Like the time I tried to make a single-fuel SSTO using LV-N and Air breathing engines
L313[12:46:45] <Isaskar_> (uses infinate fuel amt)
L314[12:46:49] <Isaskar_> atm*
L315[12:46:53] <ve2dmn> ... it was more like a SST(nowhere) then SST(orbit)
L316[12:49:49] <APlayer> Singe Stage to somewhere in the outback
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L318[12:50:40] <APlayer> Also, kOS is amazing
L319[12:51:25] <APlayer> No reason to do it because you "think [you're] crap". It's even fine for Scott Manley. :P
L320[12:51:36] <APlayer> Reminds me, I haven't seen Scott on here in a while
L321[12:53:12] <ve2dmn> does kmath support 'last seen'?
L322[12:53:39] <Isaskar_> what is kOS?
L323[12:53:46] <ve2dmn> a mod
L324[12:53:56] <APlayer> Ohh, you're missing out on something
L325[12:54:12] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I'll leave you the honour. I'm at work
L326[12:54:27] <APlayer> I remember last time you left me honours
L327[12:54:34] <Althego> of kicking
L328[12:54:35] <APlayer> I ended up having to ban a poor guy
L329[12:54:43] <APlayer> Or kicking, not sure
L330[12:54:50] * ve2dmn remembers
L331[12:54:57] <APlayer> :P
L332[12:55:54] <APlayer> Isaskar_: Long story short, first, imagine you program some sort of device. Then, imagine you build some sort of rocket. And finally, imagine you can combine both. ;-)
L333[12:56:44] <Isaskar_> ok
L334[12:56:58] <Isaskar_> and then?
L335[12:57:40] <ve2dmn> Rocket flies itself with code you wrote
L336[12:57:52] <Isaskar_> :O
L337[12:58:37] <ve2dmn> IF (SHIP:ALTITUDE > 70000) PRINT "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!"
L338[12:59:07] <Isaskar_> :P
L339[13:00:20] <APlayer> If you like maths (even the hard kind) and you like programming, kOS is for you. If you don't, you're likely to find the learning curve too steep
L340[13:00:55] <Althego> and if ship crew is 300 this is sparta?
L341[13:01:12] <Rokker> Fluburtur: so the other day i got a kill in war thudner
L342[13:01:17] <Rokker> and im not sure how to feel about it
L343[13:02:07] <Althego> conceal, dont feel
L344[13:02:18] <Althego> dont let them know
L345[13:02:19] <APlayer> IF (SHIP:CREW:FIND("Althego") { SHIP:CREW:REMOVE("Althego"). }
L346[13:02:28] <Rokker> Fluburtur: i killed an Me 262 with an arty strike
L347[13:02:39] <Althego> good, never matches because all crewmembers ar kermans
L348[13:02:46] <Fluburtur> lel
L349[13:03:18] <Rokker> Fluburtur: either that or he just randomly exploded above me
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L351[13:03:26] <Rokker> and i got kill credit
L352[13:04:09] <APlayer> IF (true) { SHIP:SELFDESTRUCT. } // definitely fires if Althego is on board
L353[13:04:49] <Rokker> Fluburtur: same arty strike killed an Object 906
L354[13:09:16] <Isaskar_> i just found something fun to do with kerbals in space
L355[13:09:44] <Isaskar_> time warp them to go inside the ship they sorta turn to ghosts
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L358[13:15:28] <Isaskar_> ooh no
L359[13:15:41] <Isaskar_> i just sent a kerbal flying around the sun
L360[13:16:32] <ve2dmn> beware of manipulating time. You can break things
L361[13:17:12] <APlayer> Your Kerbal has a new acquaintance: The Kraken.
L362[13:20:23] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/448913068391661569/20180523201903_1.jpg
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L366[13:46:41] <ve2dmn> The Kraken: https://d3r6kbofdnmd8.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/image/1536x/a4e40ebdc3e371adff845072e1c73f37/1/0/101871_the-kraken-rum_black-ceramic-edition-700_1x-becher_SET.jpg
L367[13:47:00] <ve2dmn> i want that bottle. It looks awesome
L368[13:47:11] <Althego> lol
L369[13:48:25] <ve2dmn> (The rum isn't bad too)
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L374[14:02:27] <Isaskar_> Any one have an idea for saveing the kerbal?
L375[14:04:05] <APlayer> Obviously, you either revert or send a capsule after him
L376[14:04:22] <APlayer> Unless you use life support mods, in which case the Kerbal is dead.
L377[14:05:00] <Isaskar_> i dont use mods
L378[14:05:02] <Isaskar_> yet
L379[14:05:23] <APlayer> Well, then you send a capsule after him and rendezvous to bring him back
L380[14:05:37] <APlayer> Might be possible to use an Eve gravity assist depending on where he is
L381[14:08:34] <ve2dmn> You could always... you know... cheat?
L382[14:08:38] <Isaskar_> on the way away from the mun
L383[14:09:25] <APlayer> You might want to use https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/
L384[14:09:42] <ve2dmn> ^ +1
L385[14:10:00] <APlayer> (I mean, alternatively you either use trial and error or calculate it by hand, neither of which are preferred for me)
L386[14:11:29] <ve2dmn> Of course, there is always Hyperedit
L387[14:11:56] <APlayer> Of course there is always "don't play the game and imagine you've won" too :P
L388[14:12:24] * Ezriilc winks
L389[14:12:34] <APlayer> o/
L390[14:12:55] <Isaskar_> that map dosent have the sun on it
L391[14:13:39] <APlayer> Well, you need to define an own "planet"
L392[14:13:43] <APlayer> Namely, your Kerbal
L393[14:13:57] <ve2dmn> The sun? The newspaper?
L394[14:14:03] <APlayer> "Add Body"
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L396[14:16:34] <Isaskar_> i have no idea how that thing works
L397[14:17:04] <ve2dmn> where's scott Manley when you need him?
L398[14:20:28] <APlayer> Isaskar: You enter the Kerbal's orbital parameters (please stop for a second to appreciate this term), you enter your rescue vessel's orbit around Kerbin, click calculate, get a porkchop plot
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L400[14:21:48] <APlayer> For reference, your Kerbal is a Vessel and not a Planetary Body
L401[14:22:41] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/x60XGEO0w3Y
L402[14:22:41] <kmath> YouTube - 3D RC Turbine 6x Blade Model Helicopter 29.Oldtimermeeting Switzerland
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L405[14:27:13] <ve2dmn> Oh wow. Extra Credits is changing
L406[14:28:00] <ve2dmn> https://youtu.be/_2LKrwiGFFs?t=7m34s
L407[14:28:13] <ve2dmn> (annoncement starts at 7:34)
L408[14:34:23] <ve2dmn> ok. I just had this ad on youtube and it was just too relevant not to share: https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chris-hadfield-teaches-space-exploration
L409[14:39:51] <ve2dmn> This is the ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36xRVZDoJy0
L410[14:39:51] <kmath> YouTube - Chris Hadfield Teaches Space Exploration | Official Trailer
L411[14:40:19] <ve2dmn> First line: "The Rocket equation. It's a beautiful thing"
L412[14:41:02] <Isaskar_> its bad when your plane dosent leave the runway before exploding
L413[14:41:24] <ve2dmn> Isaskar_: no. It's experience
L414[14:43:12] <Isaskar_> ill try again tomorrow now cya (the plane turns to fireworks)
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L416[14:58:53] <ve2dmn> New Scott Manley videos (on Stellaris)
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L421[15:28:06] <Eddi|zuHause> i played stellaris for 2 days straight, anything important happen?
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L423[15:37:24] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: china is dumb
L424[15:37:27] <Rokker> other than that no
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L427[15:44:48] <Eddi|zuHause> is it china that's dumb? i heard it the other way around
L428[15:55:08] <KrazyKrl> A person isn't dumb... people are dumb.
L429[15:55:31] <Eddi|zuHause> last i checked "china" is not a person.
L430[15:55:53] <Eddi|zuHause> you might be confusing that with Chyna, who is the wife of Wheezy Waiter :p
L431[15:56:35] <KrazyKrl> Chyna the wrestler, or Chyna the stuff in the cupboard?
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L435[16:00:32] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: its definitely china thats dumb
L436[16:03:09] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: how's the new update?
L437[16:03:14] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: i dont see how it could be "the other way around"
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L443[16:13:34] <transitbiker> bwoop
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L447[16:21:11] <transitbiker> sigh
L448[16:21:20] <Fluburtur> bad internet?
L449[16:21:59] <transitbiker> no, just very bad luck in minecraft after spending a whole bunch of time, time now totally wasted
L450[16:22:46] <transitbiker> i spread myself too thin for too long, always doing too much
L451[16:22:50] <Fluburtur> uh
L452[16:23:44] <transitbiker> i was prepping or a livestream and 90% of my basic items despawned because a newer player didnt realize that leaving the area means that the items wont despawn
L453[16:24:02] <transitbiker> frustrating to say the least
L454[16:24:13] <Fluburtur> yeah
L455[16:24:15] <transitbiker> i was helping them do something too
L456[16:24:24] <Fluburtur> I need to finish working on my vg33
L457[16:24:37] <Fluburtur> might make a livrstream of me working on the 3d model
L458[16:24:41] <transitbiker> so instead of being angry etc i just am going to take a long break from minecraft
L459[16:24:49] <transitbiker> a week or two
L460[16:24:51] <Fluburtur> yeah probs better
L461[16:25:00] <transitbiker> tvg33? the fighter?
L462[16:25:08] <transitbiker> tvg* sorry
L463[16:25:09] <Fluburtur> yes the rc one im making
L464[16:25:13] <Fluburtur> vg33
L465[16:25:23] <transitbiker> any new photos?
L466[16:25:26] <Fluburtur> https://www.aviationsmilitaires.net/media/pictures/VG33.jpg
L467[16:25:53] <Fluburtur> I made both wings
L468[16:26:04] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/448959809195081729/DSC_8950.JPG
L469[16:26:12] <transitbiker> the materials along the fuselage look like they are different in different areas
L470[16:26:30] <transitbiker> wingssszz
L471[16:26:38] <UmbralRaptor> hm. Unreal is free on GOG.
L472[16:26:51] <transitbiker> unreal like unreal tournament?
L473[16:26:55] <Fluburtur> motor cover is probably metal and the rest is probably wood
L474[16:27:09] <transitbiker> plywood probably
L475[16:27:16] <Fluburtur> but yeah I might program a cad livestream this weekend
L476[16:27:25] <transitbiker> or some other thin type
L477[16:27:28] <transitbiker> oooo
L478[16:27:30] <Fluburtur> I need to start making the 3d printed version
L479[16:28:10] <transitbiker> if you make that, in theory you could build the body around it, so you can make multiple copies
L480[16:28:48] <Fluburtur> well the prototype will be 3d printed with foam wings but i don't plan on making too many of those
L481[16:29:11] <Fluburtur> "production" models will be fiberglass
L482[16:29:12] <transitbiker> maybe just the internal supports, then?
L483[16:29:16] <transitbiker> tah
L484[16:29:41] <Fluburtur> I plan on making 1.2m and 2m version
L485[16:29:46] <Fluburtur> so the bigger one can use a gas engine
L486[16:30:16] <transitbiker> would be neat to have the frame 3d printed, and fix the wings etc onto that, so it can be easily repairable in sections
L487[16:30:25] <Fluburtur> yeah
L488[16:30:30] <transitbiker> just like the real thing
L489[16:30:36] <Fluburtur> but printing that will take so long
L490[16:31:01] <transitbiker> for 2 meters, probably
L491[16:31:11] <transitbiker> maybe only a few key parts, then
L492[16:31:16] <Fluburtur> that's why I will make them fiberglass
L493[16:31:26] <Fluburtur> but I will need to make molds then
L494[16:31:29] <transitbiker> engine cradle, landing gear support
L495[16:31:40] <Fluburtur> will use 3d printed parts for the cockpit and gears maybe
L496[16:31:52] <transitbiker> fuel tank inset area
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L498[16:32:26] <Fluburtur> guns and exhaust pipes too
L499[16:32:31] <transitbiker> what kind of props are you planning on using?
L500[16:32:42] <Fluburtur> triblades like the real one
L501[16:32:51] <transitbiker> weighted tips?
L502[16:32:57] <Fluburtur> already ran the numbers for the electric 1.2m one, should work alright
L503[16:33:13] <Fluburtur> https://www.banggood.com/QTmodle-1060-10x6-inch-Efficient-3-Leaf-Blade-Propeller-for-RC-Airplane-p-1030915.html
L504[16:35:01] <transitbiker> i'd think about weighting the tips if you can
L505[16:35:25] <transitbiker> flywheel effect but overall still a light prop
L506[16:35:26] <Fluburtur> why?
L507[16:35:55] <Fluburtur> lighter props take a bit less power
L508[16:36:20] <transitbiker> also on larger props it can minimize fore/aft flutter
L509[16:36:38] <Fluburtur> eh stuff od that size won't have much problems
L510[16:36:59] <transitbiker> i see
L511[16:37:12] <Fluburtur> will run under 10k rpm too
L512[16:38:17] <transitbiker> bit mentally frazzled x-x
L513[16:38:34] <KrazyKrl> wow 10k RPM... oh wait this isn't #factorio.
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L515[16:39:59] <Fluburtur> will probably use that motor https://www.banggood.com/Racerstar-BR2830-900KV-2-4S-Brushless-Motor-For-RC-Airplane-p-1114329.html?rmmds=mywishlist&stayold=1&cur_warehouse=CN
L516[16:40:06] <Fluburtur> a bit bigger than my usual stuff
L517[16:43:56] <transitbiker> what amps?
L518[16:44:14] <Fluburtur> like 15 at most i think
L519[16:44:40] <transitbiker> woah thats some power o.o
L520[16:45:13] <transitbiker> you could put battery packs in the wings
L521[16:45:25] <Fluburtur> nah will use a single 2200mah 3s battery
L522[16:46:00] <transitbiker> what is the ohms?
L523[16:46:18] <Fluburtur> idk, using some calc I like
L524[16:46:18] <transitbiker> like, spin resistance
L525[16:46:27] <transitbiker> ok
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L528[16:50:53] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aleY_84rOiY
L529[16:50:53] <kmath> YouTube - 3D Printer Calibration - Marble Machine X #35
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L546[17:43:10] <GuestBanana> Hello
L547[17:43:11] <Mod9000> Hello, GuestBanana
L548[17:45:12] <Zarthus> Hello
L549[17:45:13] <Mod9000> Hello, Zarthus
L550[17:45:15] <Zarthus> Hello
L551[17:45:17] <Mod9000> Hello, Zarthus
L552[17:45:20] <Zarthus> Hello
L553[17:45:22] <Mod9000> Hello, Zarthus
L554[17:45:25] <Zarthus> 0/10 ai
L555[17:46:29] <UmbralRaptor> To be fair, it's to provide something shiny for webchat users.
L556[17:47:29] <Zarthus> I've seen many attempts at trying to resolve the quit-immediately-webchat problem. automated bots did nothin ;D
L557[17:52:25] <GuestBanana> oh well
L558[17:53:02] <GuestBanana> Has that "KSP has spyware" "KSP's EULA takes too much information" stuff died down yet?
L559[17:53:20] <GuestBanana> And if it has, what is the consensus now?
L560[17:57:07] <Zarthus> the facebook groups are still talkin about it
L561[17:57:20] <Zarthus> (I don't actually know, but there's a joke in it)
L562[17:57:52] <GuestBanana> I didn't even know there were facebook groups
L563[17:58:18] <GuestBanana> even then, they say they hate the KSP EULA; check what website you're on buddy :)
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L566[18:00:46] <TheKosmonaut> I now have keylogs for all of you. Straight from cobra comma-- TAKETWO
L567[18:00:54] <Supercheese> most folks have figured out that it's just boilerplate from Take 2
L568[18:00:59] <TheKosmonaut> Thanks to the new eula
L569[18:01:00] <Supercheese> and does not apply to Squad's practices
L570[18:05:39] <GuestBanana> I'm downloading 1.4.3 soon
L571[18:08:07] <Zarthus> why not 2.1.0 instead?
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L573[18:13:45] <Webchat_72280> Yo, remember my weird VAB lag issue?
L574[18:13:49] *** Webchat_72280 is now known as senray
L575[18:14:00] <senray> I figured it out!
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L581[18:39:47] <ve2dmn> what was it
L582[18:41:27] <ve2dmn> wow... I broke the pathfinding in 'Surviving Mars'
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L584[18:45:18] <senray> It was Scrapyard
L585[18:45:37] <senray> It looks the 1.3.1 version, the last one, calls something everytime a part is moved
L586[18:45:47] <senray> Surviving mars is pretty goodimo
L587[18:46:02] <ve2dmn> senray: check this: https://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197994451548/
L588[18:46:46] <senray> looks like he's getting confused
L589[18:49:26] <ve2dmn> I now lack water because they can't get to the building
L590[18:49:41] <ve2dmn> so I tried destroying it... it made things worse...
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L592[19:00:24] <ve2dmn> That game is now useless... I'll have to start a new one...
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L595[19:05:13] <transitbiker> why is my com so far fore?
L596[19:06:27] <transitbiker> ya lets have a craft with wings at the node and regular emennage
L597[19:06:33] <transitbiker> node
L598[19:06:36] <transitbiker> nose
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L605[19:22:10] <Eddi|zuHause> <Zarthus> the facebook groups are still talkin about it <-- am i the only one that thinks people talking on facebook about companies gathering too much data is... ironic?
L606[19:22:43] <Azander> yep
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L608[19:24:24] <Eddi|zuHause> <ve2dmn> wow... I broke the pathfinding in 'Surviving Mars' <-- is that hard? pathfinding was abysmal last time i tried
L609[19:25:19] <ve2dmn> there was a building the drones could not get to
L610[19:25:41] <ve2dmn> or the RC transport
L611[19:26:25] <Eddi|zuHause> serously, i hit so many pathfinder bugs...
L612[19:27:12] <ve2dmn> I could not fast-forward the game anymore
L613[19:27:34] <ve2dmn> if you want to see I could reload the save
L614[19:27:44] <Eddi|zuHause> like, i had an area that had higher altitude bonus for windmills, so i tried building there, but the drones wouldn't drive up the "ramp", only the drone rover
L615[19:28:22] <Eddi|zuHause> so i drove the rover up there, then the drones could go on the top
L616[19:28:32] <Eddi|zuHause> but not back and forth to get ressources
L617[19:29:17] <ve2dmn> In my case, the building was unreachable... they would circle around it as if it was radioactive or something
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L620[19:29:48] <Eddi|zuHause> ... or, i had drones getting stuck in holes after i removed the scraper mine thingies (what were they mining for again?)
L621[19:30:25] <ve2dmn> Concrete?
L622[19:30:38] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, yes, probably
L623[19:30:59] <ve2dmn> anyway, the save is useless now. no way around it
L624[19:31:04] <Eddi|zuHause> i always confuse that with gypsum
L625[19:31:06] <ve2dmn> Might as well try the new Stlllaris
L626[19:31:13] <Eddi|zuHause> which was the ressource mined for in Sol 0
L627[19:31:39] <Eddi|zuHause> i unstuck my "drone in hole" by building these waste pile sites
L628[19:31:49] <Eddi|zuHause> that flattened the area again
L629[19:32:38] <ve2dmn> Mine is game breaking. Simulation slowed to a crawl. no way to fix it :(
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L632[19:33:19] <Eddi|zuHause> pathfinders have a bad time with paths not existing
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L634[19:33:28] <ve2dmn> yes
L635[19:34:17] <Eddi|zuHause> try reducing the drone hub area so the building is not covered?
L636[19:34:32] <ve2dmn> but it's my main source of water
L637[19:34:52] <Eddi|zuHause> buy some vaporators :p
L638[19:35:38] <ve2dmn> sad that I have to do this...
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L640[19:36:48] <ve2dmn> I should file a bug report with the save
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L642[19:40:06] <ve2dmn> known bug: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/surviving-mars-unreachable-unrepairable-buildings.1099983/
L643[19:41:48] <ve2dmn> https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/surviving-mars-invisible-field-prevents-drones-and-vehicles-to-move-there.1099306/
L644[19:42:06] <ve2dmn> I'll go with Stellaris for now
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L647[19:56:35] <Eddi|zuHause> speaking of stellaris
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L649[19:57:09] <Eddi|zuHause> i have this covfefe system again, and this time, it has two dead worlds in it, with primitive civilisations... what's the game trying to tell me?
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L654[21:13:22] <Rokker> Eddi|zuHause: is it trying to tell you something political thats not allowed in this channel?
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L657[21:41:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i would never ever imply that
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L660[21:53:40] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, this is bad, i have this IDE-to-USB adapter, and i grabbed a random old HDD from my cupboard to see what's on it, but it is so old, it seems to predate this "bump" on the IDE cable, so i cannot attach it :/
L661[21:56:03] <ve2dmn> 40 pin IDE?
L662[21:56:10] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah
L663[21:56:35] <ve2dmn> so you need an extra old cable (pre-80 pin cable)
L664[21:56:46] <ve2dmn> I have tons of thoses
L665[21:57:08] <Eddi|zuHause> those wouldn't help me, because it would need to have pins on the other side instead of holes
L666[21:59:40] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... even more weird, i grabbed another slightly less old one, and it spins up, and it tells me it attached a new disk, but when i try to access it, it says "no medium"
L667[22:00:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i forgot how loud HDDs were 25 years ago
L668[22:10:42] <Eddi|zuHause> tried jumpering the jumper, but none of the settings work
L669[22:14:10] <Eddi|zuHause> next newer one works... whooping 1GB of space!! how could one ever fill THAT?!?
L670[22:21:58] <KrazyKrl> Now i kinda want to find my 10MB HDD from my IBM way back when...
L671[22:28:34] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't have ones that small. i started with 80MB (the one i couldn't attach) and 420MB (the one i couldn't get working)
L672[22:28:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i should have a 40MB one somewhere that i later got from someone else, but i didn't find it here
L673[22:33:05] <ve2dmn> When I bought my first 500MB drive it was 1 $/MB
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L678[22:44:34] <Eddi|zuHause> i have no clue about prices
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