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L1[00:03:17] <Althego> hah finally somebody on youtube found the balaton flat earth measurement
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L5[00:56:17] <Triffid_Hunter_> is it just me or is the KSP website's CDN for downloading abysmally slow? currently getting literally 300 *bytes* per second :/
L6[00:57:21] <Triffid_Hunter_> meanwhile, youtube gives me 500k/sec so it's not a local issue
L7[00:57:35] <Althego> it is the internet. may be something in the middle
L8[00:58:01] <Althego> or they are really having issues. but that usually happens only right after release
L9[00:58:25] <Triffid_Hunter_> I don't think I've had reasonable speeds from KSP CDN since like 0.21 or so
L10[00:58:53] <Althego> what is a cdn?
L11[00:59:08] <Althego> but anyway, if you mean the download, it was always ok for me, except on relase nghts
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L16[01:13:54] <Triffid_Hunter_> Althego: content delivery network
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L60[07:28:16] <Jinx> https://imgur.com/gallery/6SXVTmg
L61[07:28:19] <Jinx> ksp related
L62[07:40:06] <Rokker> hasn't the issue popped up like a million separate times
L63[07:40:28] <Rokker> I feel like every week someone complained about the EULA cause muh spyware
L64[07:45:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure that goes for every EULA ever...
L65[07:47:30] <Eddi|zuHause> something not ksp related: https://youtu.be/Pna0Q998dlE?t=34
L66[07:48:14] <Gasher[work]> someone finally read the license agreement past the first few lines?
L67[07:48:38] <Rokker> ive found the best coffee mug ever
L68[07:49:15] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/F1a2XoR.jpg
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L70[07:51:10] <Rokker> seriously, I bet none of you can find a better one
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L72[07:52:24] <sandbox> I've seen a better one... but I can't remember what it was
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L74[07:55:23] <Rokker> sandbox: lies
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L80[08:04:10] <ve2dmn> I use this mug: data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxAQEhASERIWFRUVEBUVFRUVFRUVFhUVFRIWFhUVFRYYHiggGBolHRYVITEhJSkrLi4uFyEzODMtNygtLi0BCgoKDg0OFQ8PFyseHR0tKy0rLS0rKystLSstKy43LS0tLS0tNzc3LS4rLS0rLjcsLTE3LSsrNy8xLTctKy03K//AABEIAOEA4AMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAABBQEBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgMEBQYBBwj/xABBEAACAQIEAgYGCQIGAgMBAAABAgADEQQSITEFQRMiUWFxsQYUMoGRoSMzQlJyc7LB0TTwJENiY4LhB5IlwvEV/
L81[08:04:21] <ve2dmn> wow... copy paste fail
L82[08:04:38] <ve2dmn> https://nostarch.com/mug.htm
L83[08:04:56] <ve2dmn> https://nostarch.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product_full/public/mug_vi.jpg?itok=lOFK6q0_
L84[08:06:54] <Eddi|zuHause> <Gasher[work]> someone finally read the license agreement past the first few lines? <-- you actually read the first few lines of an EULA?
L85[08:07:48] <Althego> haha, service animal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7HFXgyTya0
L86[08:07:49] <kmath> YouTube - My Dinosaur Is a Service Animal (with Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard!)
L87[08:08:51] <Althego> (bit of a continuation of yesterday, but not really)
L88[08:10:22] <Eddi|zuHause> what was yesterday?
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L92[08:12:31] <Althego> i brought up some article that an american airline doesnt allow some emotional support animal anymore including insects, goats, hawks, ferrets, etc
L93[08:25:39] <sandbox> surprised they didn't go for an elephant
L94[08:27:00] <Rokker> guys check out this cool pic of the C-133 I took. It's so weird that there is such a giant empty space here. https://i.imgur.com/hnd8mwX.jpg
L95[08:31:54] <Althego> hehe
L96[08:32:14] <Althego> a bit of an effort you could make a 3d model of the inside of the museum
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L98[08:34:19] <Rokker> Althego: i could make one by heart at this point
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L107[09:28:06] <ve2dmn> Rokker: why don't you? You could make one of each exhibit, put it on Thingyverse or Shapeways and have them printed, so you could make you very own exhibit at home
L108[09:28:14] <ve2dmn> (some painting might be required)
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L112[09:53:40] <Rokker> holy mother of god
L113[10:04:11] <Rokker> I know it's not terribly appropriate for this channel
L114[10:04:17] <Rokker> but I'm slightly aroused
L115[10:05:59] <Rokker> that plane flyover
L116[10:06:13] <Rokker> I'm pretty sure it's what it looks like if Angel's take you to heaven
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L118[10:09:55] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/QFKDWHQcB8E
L119[10:09:56] <kmath> YouTube - Memphis Belle unveiling flyover. May 16 2018.
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L121[10:13:42] <ve2dmn> The Blue Angels? Probably, but faster
L122[10:14:35] <ve2dmn> Side note: my browser doesn't like the cert of https://www.blueangels.navy.mil/
L123[10:14:39] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwN7l7xT0A
L124[10:14:40] <kmath> YouTube - Bell UH 1 Rotor Balancing Runs
L125[10:15:50] <Rokker> Fluburtur: this just happened to me 25 minutes ago https://youtu.be/QFKDWHQcB8E
L126[10:15:51] <kmath> YouTube - Memphis Belle unveiling flyover. May 16 2018.
L127[10:16:16] <Althego> rokker reporting live :)
L128[10:16:49] <Fluburtur> not bad
L129[10:17:00] <Fluburtur> just needs german planes shooting them down for realism
L130[10:17:05] <Althego> insert obama meme face?
L131[10:17:37] <Fluburtur> this one? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/024/221/upload.png
L132[10:17:46] <Althego> no
L133[10:18:06] <Althego> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/138/246/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg
L134[10:18:38] <Fluburtur> wait the levator thing on the huey actually moves?
L135[10:19:05] <Rokker> ...
L136[10:19:08] <Rokker> yes
L137[10:19:17] <Fluburtur> why
L138[10:20:05] <Rokker> it helps when ur going fast
L139[10:20:26] <Fluburtur> less cyclic needed?
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L141[10:20:43] <Fluburtur> actually my rc heli has a tiny hstab
L142[10:20:44] <Rokker> Fluburtur: the Huey has a top speed of 217 km/h
L143[10:20:56] <Rokker> kinda helps
L144[10:21:09] <Fluburtur> but I thought the tail fins on mine were only there to look nice
L145[10:21:32] <Fluburtur> because this kind of helis isn't really made to fly forward all the time, is a 3d machine
L146[10:22:23] <Fluburtur> I guess a conventionnal rudder and elevator would be handy as backup, I had to land the huey with no tail rotor many times in rs2
L147[10:23:01] <Althego> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8j9fve/forever_burning/
L148[10:23:26] <Althego> https://i.redditmedia.com/8nOYX5L2zZgjIVo5ivZVHzQfaE21roCz0x5w6hYovuA.jpg?s=3db6539de66885393e45bded0eeaae40
L149[10:23:33] <Althego> https://i.redditmedia.com/hyP9IcsTkiVbSHAuk2Rf8fLag9X_S7JnBbuqGpqprsc.png?s=b07c6674d8559065b93ac7e5470d30c4
L150[10:23:43] <Althego> the perfect action movie backdrop
L151[10:23:57] <Fluburtur> actually the vertical stab on rc helis is mostly there to protect the tail rotor from tail strikes
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L153[10:25:06] <Althego> https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/weirdnaturalkiskadee
L154[10:25:44] <Fluburtur> still best action scene https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/446011154704367636/20180515200744_1.jpg
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L157[10:28:24] <Fluburtur> well time for terminators https://78.media.tumblr.com/62e26fd13e78c5ebad11d96803b651be/tumblr_p8qbr2ldEG1qdjvf7o1_540.jpg
L158[10:32:13] <Mat2ch> uhm
L159[10:32:48] <Fluburtur> I can get power from eating stuff too, am I a robot?
L160[10:32:56] <Mat2ch> yes
L161[10:33:03] <Mat2ch> Now back to work.
L162[10:33:20] <Fluburtur> I just came back from work
L163[10:33:30] <Althego> what
L164[10:33:32] <Althego> you work?
L165[10:33:38] <Fluburtur> yes since monday
L166[10:33:41] <Althego> hehe
L167[10:33:48] <Fluburtur> haven't you noticed im here less often
L168[10:33:56] <Althego> no, because i work :)
L169[10:34:02] <Fluburtur> eh I guess
L170[10:34:50] <Fluburtur> I've been touching glass tubes and burning myself
L171[10:35:03] <Althego> lol
L172[10:35:14] <Fluburtur> that's how you learn to make glass thermometers
L173[10:36:55] <Althego> can't touch this :)
L174[10:39:14] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: oh, where do you work?
L175[10:39:33] <Fluburtur> a place that makes thermometers for industry and crap like that
L176[10:39:34] <Mat2ch> glaziery?
L177[10:39:54] <Fluburtur> they have mercury and carbonic ice so that's cool
L178[10:40:14] <Althego> why do they have dry ice?
L179[10:40:29] <Althego> is mercury still allowed in anything today?
L180[10:40:33] <Fluburtur> to do crap with the mercury thermometers
L181[10:40:55] <Fluburtur> mercury thermometers are for crap that is above 200°c, petrol ones start to boil then
L182[10:41:15] <Fluburtur> but the average random dude can't buy one, it's for pertrol industry and stuff like that
L183[10:41:43] <Althego> hehe they do enough polution already, 1 or 2 thermometers dont matter
L184[10:42:01] <Fluburtur> yeah
L185[10:42:06] <Fluburtur> but mercury looks nice
L186[10:42:09] <Fluburtur> and it is heavy af
L187[10:42:33] <Fluburtur> maybe I will try to make myself one and bring it home
L188[10:43:48] <Fluburtur> I mean, peoples are not allowed to *buy* them but there is nothing stopping me from bringing one home if I make it
L189[10:45:21] <Althego> lol
L190[10:45:32] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/e1c305e80accef1416303891873f6ba7/tumblr_p8f5hlB3xM1vjcb7vo1_540.jpg
L191[10:50:56] <ve2dmn> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8jv1fs/when_kerbals_get_human_hands/
L192[10:54:22] <Mat2ch> oh, wow
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L194[10:56:50] <ve2dmn> Looks like a cool mod
L195[10:57:08] <Althego> cant beat the factorio integration mod
L196[11:04:31] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/ASz9GCm.jpg
L197[11:04:51] <Althego> why are the stripes so pixelateD?
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L200[11:08:04] <Rokker> idk. I'm blaming imgur
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L202[11:15:44] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/NTl7NnZ.jpg
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L210[11:40:27] <Mat2ch> that air intake!
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L212[11:53:43] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/0ccfdb6fda59e3ec3b9c6892fd3b0f82.png - How's this for a Kerbal band name?
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L215[12:00:46] <Althego> burner is more like jet. change it to turbopumps :)
L216[12:02:30] <ve2dmn> Althego: ' factorio integration mod'? Tell me more....
L217[12:02:43] <Althego> https://github.com/Rahjital/XenoIndustry
L218[12:02:50] <Althego> somebody linked this in the morning
L219[12:03:53] <ve2dmn> That's both brilliant and evil
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L221[12:14:18] <darsie> (How) can I configure the keybinding "Reverse cycle focus in orbital map"? I don't like left shift tab as that decreases throttle.
L222[12:16:04] <Althego> where all the other keys, if it is there
L223[12:16:14] <Althego> and yes shift tab is stupid because of the engines
L224[12:16:20] <darsie> I didn't find it.
L225[12:16:26] <Althego> usually i have to cycle around the whoel solar system because of that
L226[12:16:38] <darsie> right
L227[12:16:45] <Althego> alternatively supposedly you can close down the navball in map mode then it doesnt do engine
L228[12:16:53] <darsie> Doesn't seem to be configurable.
L229[12:17:04] <Althego> but i never want to close the navball. it took a lot of time for them to give that option
L230[12:17:05] <darsie> hmm, ok.
L231[12:17:33] <darsie> Can I edit a file to configure it?
L232[12:18:58] <Althego> i think it is not even in the file lol
L233[12:19:31] <darsie> bug
L234[12:19:43] <Althego> feature
L235[12:19:48] <darsie> lol
L236[12:19:53] <Althego> or rather it is hardcoded
L237[12:20:07] <Althego> you can maybe add a feature request on the bugtracker
L238[12:20:21] <darsie> Nah, I just report it in the official channel.
L239[12:20:35] <Althego> this is like dev null
L240[12:20:44] <dsockwell> nobody is listening
L241[12:22:19] <darsie> I'm rescuing a kerbal that jetpacked from Minmus surface to Kerbin orbit and aerobraked to lower apoapsis. Fortunately, IIRC, there is no aerobraking when I control the rescue rocket, so I can get my encounter.
L242[12:23:14] <Althego> if it is above some altitude, maybe 35 km, and not focused, any object will stay in orbit
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L247[12:47:31] <ve2dmn> TIL Shift-TAB works in map mode
L248[12:48:16] <Althego> where els would it work?
L249[12:48:29] <Althego> and you expect it to, since it is the counterpart to tab
L250[12:48:48] <ve2dmn> I just click on things
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L261[13:19:42] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-vAc6hPig
L262[13:19:42] <kmath> YouTube - Amazing White Laser Experiments!!!
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L264[13:22:23] <Draconiator> https://kerbalx.com/Draconiator/Kerbals-of-Rock-Stage
L265[13:22:23] <Althego> that reminds me, i still need to get a laser
L266[13:23:59] <Deddly> Oh cool, Styropyro is back!
L267[13:25:23] <Althego> so if you can get a so big color gau
L268[13:25:26] <Althego> gamut
L269[13:25:37] <Althego> then why arent there laser projectors with this?
L270[13:26:23] * Deddly hasn't actually watched the vid yet
L271[13:26:31] <Deddly> But there are laser projectors
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L273[13:27:50] <Guest23346> new ksp update turns the game into spyware
L274[13:27:52] <Guest23346> new ksp update turns the game into spyware
L275[13:27:53] <Guest23346> new ksp update turns the game into spyware
L276[13:27:53] <Guest23346> new ksp update turns the game into spyware
L277[13:27:54] <Guest23346> new ksp update turns the game into spyware
L278[13:27:57] *** Guest23346 was kicked by Deddly (Guest23346))
L279[13:28:11] <Althego> fastest draw on the wild internet
L280[13:28:23] <Fluburtur> Deddliest mod
L281[13:28:51] * Deddly blows the smoke from the barrel of his trusty Magnum
L282[13:33:50] <Draconiator> uhhh...
L283[13:34:09] <Althego> why would anybody do this?
L284[13:34:09] <Draconiator> most games are spyware these days anyway...NOTHING NEW CARRY ON.
L285[13:34:16] <Fluburtur> he should make a hard mount for those lasers and prism cubes and add a driver so he can put out a light show any time
L286[13:34:20] <Rokker> Deddly: people are dumb
L287[13:34:26] * Deddly writes down everything Draconiator says
L288[13:34:34] <Althego> games? the os already
L289[13:34:41] <Rokker> the EULA change that did that was forever ago
L290[13:35:07] <Deddly> This is true
L291[13:37:02] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/1ace70a1e9600a44e312d5af98f01f2f.png - My mod partition for modded games.
L292[13:43:22] <Zarthus> funny when people are concerned about games turning into spyware, while running on Windows 10
L293[13:43:42] <ve2dmn> ^
L294[13:44:37] <Zarthus> although the GDPR enforcements on WIndows 10 will be interesting to see
L295[13:44:51] <ve2dmn> I didn't think of that...
L296[13:45:05] * ve2dmn put popcorn in the microwave
L297[13:45:41] * APlayer gives Guest23346 a tin foil hat
L298[13:45:55] <Althego> and a flat earth model
L299[13:46:23] <APlayer> And a spherical flat earth
L300[13:46:37] <Zarthus> cubical earth, because minecraft is real
L301[13:46:50] <Deddly> Did you know that by logging in to an IRC channel, your IP address, user name, usage habits and everything you type will be recorded by however many people are online?
L302[13:46:56] <ve2dmn> with enough dimensions, all this could be true :D
L303[13:47:11] <Zarthus> Deddly, and directly sent as daily digest to my email /s
L304[13:47:17] <Althego> that is the poin
L305[13:47:18] <Althego> t
L306[13:47:26] <Deddly> Zarthus, ever an unsecured connection?? ;)
L307[13:47:31] <Althego> how else would you communicate without sending messages to them?
L308[13:47:40] <Deddly> Althego, indeed
L309[13:47:42] <APlayer> A spherical flat earth where the upper hemisphere is a bulged flat earth, and the lower hemisphere is whatever stuff would be on the backside of the flat earth. Lizard land, I guess. Oh, and Antarctica would be on the equator
L310[13:47:46] <Zarthus> Deddly, doesn't matter what you use when I am the man in the middle
L311[13:48:01] <ve2dmn> Deddly: you mean webchat@152.78.219.13 from the University of Southampton isn't anonymous? Shocking!
L312[13:48:06] <Althego> "upper" and "lower" hemispheres?
L313[13:48:10] <Deddly> ESPER SPIES ON YOU
L314[13:48:11] <Deddly> ESPER SPIES ON YOU
L315[13:48:21] <Zarthus> /kline deddly
L316[13:48:54] <APlayer> new deddly(tm) firmware update turns the irc into spyware
L317[13:49:09] <APlayer> (Re-read 10 times for authentic effect)
L318[13:49:12] * Deddly gets strangled and replaced with a more compliant personality
L319[13:49:34] <APlayer> Still does not pass TÃœV :P
L320[13:50:56] <Deddly> You will be assimilated. Your personal data and geographic diversity will by added to our own.
L321[13:51:40] <ve2dmn> "We are Facebook. Lower your Shield. Join Us"
L322[13:52:15] <Althego> no
L323[13:52:27] <ve2dmn> Too late
L324[13:52:37] <Althego> no, i am still not on facebook
L325[13:52:53] <ve2dmn> They still have a shadow profile of you
L326[13:53:01] <Althego> how
L327[13:53:05] <Gasher> come on Althego, join before it collapses
L328[13:53:09] <Althego> i am not on any of these things
L329[13:53:48] <ve2dmn> Basically, if you know anyone on facebook, your own personnal information can be infer from them
L330[13:54:02] <ve2dmn> sad, but true
L331[13:54:09] <Althego> that might be possible
L332[13:54:26] <Althego> and since some billion people are on it
L333[13:54:35] <Althego> you must know somebody on facebook
L334[13:55:38] <ve2dmn> You were probably tagged without knowing. You email was scrapped from letting facebook check the contacts of a friend...
L335[13:56:17] <ve2dmn> I'll stop there. That rabbit hole is DEEP
L336[13:56:21] <APlayer> They are coming. They are coming to get you. Enjoy your day while you can.
L337[13:59:58] <Deddly> I once got an email from some social network thing because a friend had clicked "invite a friend" and put my email address in it. The site has already set up a page for me and sent me masses of reminders about how many people had viewed my profile etc etc. Drove me nuts
L338[14:01:36] <Deddly> But get this: The profile was set up in my real name
L339[14:02:03] <Deddly> (because my friend had so helpfully added that, too)
L340[14:02:45] <ve2dmn> did he get 100MB of free space from that referal?
L341[14:02:53] <Deddly> Probably
L342[14:03:31] <APlayer> A month of premium badge showing up on their account page
L343[14:03:50] <ve2dmn> Reddit Silver, and 100credits on farmville
L344[14:04:34] <APlayer> Also, bitcoins :P
L345[14:04:45] <ve2dmn> Dogecoins you mean
L346[14:05:14] <APlayer> Right
L347[14:05:22] <APlayer> Such doge. Much coins. Wow.
L348[14:06:16] <ve2dmn> Cryptocurrency is so 'in vogue' right now that Dogecoin blew up in value...
L349[14:06:28] <ve2dmn> ...and the original creator is shaking his head
L350[14:07:24] <Althego> i dont even know what normal money is (already seem fictional numbers), but these cryptothings are even more fictional
L351[14:07:45] <APlayer> https://techcrunch.com/2013/12/25/dogecoin-hack/ though
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L353[14:17:14] <ve2dmn> Althego: it's a tool, like everything else.
L354[14:17:30] <Althego> but it feels forced and artificial
L355[14:18:06] <ve2dmn> it's math. You can prove you own it via hard-to-reverse calculus
L356[14:18:16] <ve2dmn> But the value is.... highly inflated
L357[14:18:18] <Deddly> Unless your coins are made of gold or silver, they are artificial, too. But I do get where you're coming from.
L358[14:18:37] <Althego> that is why i said i dont even know what the usual money is
L359[14:18:37] <Deddly> Even gold is only valuable because of it's scarcity
L360[14:18:59] <Rokker> ENGINES https://i.imgur.com/Lnf6rHU.jpg
L361[14:18:59] <Fluburtur> who wants to be blind https://www.banggood.com/EleksMaker-Laser-Module-Red-Laser-Line-Generator-Diode-Engraving-Machine-Parts-p-955966.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN
L362[14:19:06] <Rokker> E N G I N E S
L363[14:19:31] <ve2dmn> The problem with speculation is that they never 'just' look at value. They look at the value of time function on focus all their attention on teh first and second derivative of that function...
L364[14:19:54] <ve2dmn> ...never realizing they exptrapolated that function from just 2 data points
L365[14:20:01] <Althego> hehe
L366[14:20:15] <ve2dmn> 2008 in a nutshell
L367[14:20:34] <Deddly> Rokker, nice
L368[14:20:48] <Fluburtur> what even https://www.banggood.com/64-Medical-Diodes-Laser-Hair-Loss-Treatment-Solution-Helmet-Cap-Fast-Regrowth-Oil-Control-Glasses-p-1227614.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN
L369[14:20:59] <Althego> that was 10 years ago
L370[14:21:07] <Althego> next one is comming
L371[14:21:19] <Deddly> Fluburtur, if you're going to get one of these, please tell me you'll have goggles at the correct wavelength protection
L372[14:21:22] <Rokker> Deddly: engines
L373[14:21:35] <Deddly> Rokker, nice engines.
L374[14:21:40] <Fluburtur> no I want to be blind
L375[14:21:51] <Althego> he could make special glasses with steel plates welded on them :)
L376[14:21:52] <Fluburtur> actually I just want a 5mw green laser diode for a project
L377[14:21:57] <Deddly> Fluburtur, how will you IRC?
L378[14:22:05] <Rokker> Deddly: best engines
L379[14:22:11] <Fluburtur> I will plug my brain into the computer
L380[14:22:41] <Deddly> OK 5mw will be fine
L381[14:23:41] <Fluburtur> will maybe get this too https://www.banggood.com/Burning-Laser-303-Green-Laser-PointerLight-Star-Cap-532nm-5mw-p-955849.html?rmmds=search&ID=229&cur_warehouse=CN
L382[14:26:25] <Rokker> Deddly: the engine was too big to test by attaching to a normal plane
L383[14:27:15] <Deddly> Rokker, what is the engine and what is the plane?
L384[14:27:47] <Rokker> XB-70 with 6 YJ93 engines
L385[14:28:51] <Deddly> Ooh
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L387[14:29:41] <Rokker> Deddly: in order to test the YJ93 they had to stick it on the bottom of a B-58 Hustler where the bomb/fuel pod went
L388[14:29:44] <Rokker> https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/2khwx4/convair_b58_hustler/?utm_source=reddit-android
L389[14:30:21] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: just get one of theses and you'll be fine https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.teachersource.com/images/uploads/1075_721_popup.jpg
L390[14:30:42] <Fluburtur> yeah
L391[14:32:34] <Deddly> Thrust-to-weight ratio of 5:1!
L392[14:33:17] <Deddly> (The XB-70)
L393[14:34:46] <APlayer> Automatic aerodynamic disintegration machine
L394[14:35:43] <Rokker> Deddly: basically a mach 3 B-52
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L397[14:38:31] <Rokker> also I'm just gonna point out that I talking to ya'll from beneath the wing of JFKs presidential plane
L398[14:39:00] <Rolf> curious if you ever went to see spruce goose
L399[14:39:08] <Rolf> its definitely interesting plane
L400[14:39:55] <Deddly> Rokker, now I'd REALLY be impressed if you were talking to us from ABOVE the wing
L401[14:40:08] <Deddly> or ON the wing
L402[14:40:11] <Rolf> or even better, plane isnt touching floor
L403[14:40:43] <Rokker> Deddly: I can talk to you from inside it
L404[14:40:54] <Deddly> woohoo
L405[14:41:29] <Rolf> https://youtu.be/M68ndaZSKa8?t=137
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L407[14:48:15] <Rokker> Deddly: look at me. I'm the president now https://i.imgur.com/Zt1b2Xs.jpg
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L409[14:49:02] <Deddly> Awesome :)
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L411[14:49:06] <Gasher> Rokker live from the museum? :D
L412[14:49:27] * Deddly copies the fingerprints for TakeTwo
L413[14:49:28] <Rokker> Gasher: nope I dead
L414[14:49:28] <Fluburtur> well he lives there so yeah
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L416[14:49:41] <Gasher> sounds plausible
L417[14:50:04] <Supercheese> is that the Evergeen museum in, uhh, McMinville Oregon?
L418[14:51:20] <Rokker> how dare you
L419[14:51:41] <Rokker> this is the national museum of the usaf, tyvm
L420[14:52:34] <Supercheese> so not the one with the Spruce Goose, then
L421[14:53:29] <Rokker> no, better
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L424[14:57:59] <ve2dmn> Supercheese: I made the mistake it mentioning what-shall-not-be-named once....
L425[14:58:07] <ve2dmn> of*
L426[15:00:53] <Rokker> ve2dmn: MUSEUM MUSEUM MUSEUM
L427[15:01:05] <Supercheese> as long as it has lots of juicy WW2-era aircraft, I'm bound to like it
L428[15:01:13] <NGC3982> voldemort?
L429[15:01:18] <Supercheese> basically my only criteria for aviation museums
L430[15:02:16] <Rokker> Supercheese: then boy do i have good news for you
L431[15:02:16] * Deddly considers making the bot randomly use the word that shall not be mentioned
L432[15:02:25] <Rokker> Supercheese: you know the Memphis Belle
L433[15:02:27] <Rokker> loke
L434[15:02:29] <Rokker> like
L435[15:02:33] <Supercheese> yes
L436[15:02:36] <Rokker> THE Memphis Belle
L437[15:02:40] <Supercheese> quite
L438[15:02:45] <Rokker> Supercheese: shes being unveiled here tomorrow
L439[15:02:51] <Rokker> for permanent display
L440[15:03:03] <Rokker> Supercheese: we also have the Bockscar
L441[15:03:13] <Supercheese> Fantastic
L442[15:03:21] <Rokker> as in Nagasaki bomber Bockscar
L443[15:03:40] <Supercheese> also I've wondered if any museum has a Lockheed Constellation that you are allowed to tour the inside cabin of
L444[15:03:50] <Supercheese> certainly none near my area do
L445[15:03:57] <Rokker> Supercheese: well... it's not a commercial one here
L446[15:04:13] <Rokker> Supercheese: because it was Eisenhowers Super connie
L447[15:04:22] <Rokker> but you can go inside
L448[15:05:01] <Supercheese> neato
L449[15:05:06] <Rokker> Supercheese: we have the P-75 Eagle
L450[15:06:03] <Supercheese> any P-61s?
L451[15:06:18] <Supercheese> Mid-Atlantic air museum guys are slooowwwlllyy working on one
L452[15:06:23] <Deddly> SR-71?
L453[15:06:27] <NGC3982> sr-71.
L454[15:06:32] * Deddly LOVES the SR-71
L455[15:06:45] <Rokker> Supercheese: of course
L456[15:06:49] <NGC3982> that's an almost ironicly cool piece of the future.
L457[15:06:57] <Rokker> Deddly: I'll do you one better
L458[15:07:11] <Deddly> Hmm
L459[15:07:12] <Rokker> Deddly: SR-71 ANDDDDD YF-12
L460[15:07:15] <Deddly> OOOH
L461[15:07:23] <Rokker> the YF-12
L462[15:07:24] <Deddly> OK that was indeed one better
L463[15:07:33] <Deddly> Fantastic
L464[15:07:34] <Rokker> and a D-21
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L466[15:08:11] <Supercheese> yeah the MAAM's P-61 project has been extraordinarily lengthy
L467[15:08:18] <Supercheese> I do hope they get it flying one day
L468[15:08:25] <Rokker> Deddly: the SR-71 is next to our B-2, the YF-12 is next to our X-15 and the XB-70
L469[15:08:32] <Rokker> Supercheese: that would be great
L470[15:08:45] <Deddly> I'm coming over
L471[15:08:51] <Rokker> such a weird plane. what with the spoilerons and whatnot
L472[15:08:58] <Supercheese> it always tickles me pink when the good old Collings Foundation flies in with the B-17, B-24, and P-51
L473[15:09:00] <Rokker> Deddly: we also have rockets
L474[15:09:05] <Rokker> the space kind
L475[15:09:06] <Supercheese> been lucky to have them visit the local airport several times
L476[15:09:09] <Rokker> and the nuke kind
L477[15:09:25] <Rokker> Supercheese: oh I forgot to show you what I saw today
L478[15:09:34] <Rokker> part of the Memphis belle festivities
L479[15:09:49] <Rokker> https://youtu.be/QFKDWHQcB8E
L480[15:09:50] <kmath> YouTube - Memphis Belle unveiling flyover. May 16 2018.
L481[15:10:00] <Supercheese> matter of fact, they're flying in here next month IIRC
L482[15:10:02] <Supercheese> end of June
L483[15:10:20] <Supercheese> https://www.collingsfoundation.org/events/category/wings-of-freedom-tour/
L484[15:11:05] <Rokker> Supercheese: look at the link
L485[15:11:06] <Supercheese> when the 4-engine heavies do a flyover, everyone better stop and watch
L486[15:11:09] <Rokker> look at it
L487[15:11:21] <Supercheese> I mean really
L488[15:11:28] <Rokker> Supercheese: when 3 of them fly over your heart stops and watches too
L489[15:11:34] <Supercheese> delicious
L490[15:11:55] <NGC3982> i used to live near a naval air base here in sweden. i used to feel the resonance of the engines in my windows when they were practicing over the sea.
L491[15:11:58] <Rokker> they were supposed to land but weather prevented it. hopefully they land tomorrow during the unveiling
L492[15:12:06] <NGC3982> that was the jas 39.
L493[15:12:31] <Rokker> NGC3982: in Toledo I was near an F-16 national guard wing. that was always a treat
L494[15:12:41] <NGC3982> cool
L495[15:12:44] <Deddly> Gotland?
L496[15:13:13] <NGC3982> halmstad
L497[15:13:28] <Deddly> Ah OK. Didn't know there was a base there
L498[15:13:55] <Rokker> any other planes yall wanna ask about
L499[15:14:07] <Deddly> X-15
L500[15:14:25] <Rokker> next to the YF-12
L501[15:14:31] * Deddly faints
L502[15:14:33] <Rokker> Deddly: we got the faster one
L503[15:14:38] <NGC3982> the saab 9-5.
L504[15:14:57] <Rokker> that's the one area the museum is lacking in is foreign planes
L505[15:15:01] <Rokker> no saab
L506[15:15:02] <NGC3982> the best jet the swedes could ever build.
L507[15:15:14] <Rokker> not many British or german
L508[15:15:21] <Rokker> or anything else
L509[15:15:55] <Rokker> Deddly: we have the only B-2 and F-22 on display
L510[15:16:02] <Deddly> LOL, Saab 9-5
L511[15:16:06] <Rokker> as well as the YF-23
L512[15:16:25] <NGC3982> saab aerospace still got it, tho.
L513[15:16:53] <Deddly> Saab 9-5 is a car, FYI
L514[15:17:07] <NGC3982> nope, it's a god damn jet.
L515[15:17:09] <NGC3982> and a good one too
L516[15:17:14] <Supercheese> Y'all got a B-36, right?
L517[15:17:24] <NGC3982> almost as good as the other jets, saab 9-3, 900 and Sonette.
L518[15:17:24] <Rokker> of course
L519[15:17:26] <Supercheese> can ya tour the inside?
L520[15:17:34] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/HcIdZfN.jpg
L521[15:17:47] <Rokker> Supercheese: you can go under the open bomb bay
L522[15:17:58] <Rokker> but not the cockpit or anything
L523[15:18:33] <NGC3982> The Saab Sonette was the first mach-1 spy plane.
L524[15:19:09] <Deddly> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L525[15:19:34] <Supercheese> B-36 is a very Kerbal plane
L526[15:19:47] <Supercheese> "Should we use piston engines or turbojets"?
L527[15:19:48] <Supercheese> "Yes."
L528[15:20:04] <Supercheese> also put the cyclones in pusher configuration because why not
L529[15:20:13] <NGC3982> they also built cars like the Saab 18.
L530[15:20:20] <Supercheese> or no, wasps not cyclones
L531[15:20:23] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/VCasR6B.jpg Deddly
L532[15:20:43] <Deddly> <3
L533[15:21:14] <Deddly> Rokker, did you see the stock Kerbal SR-71 someone made a while ago?
L534[15:21:33] <Rokker> Supercheese: https://i.imgur.com/v5dlQio.jpg
L535[15:21:41] <Rokker> Deddly: missed it
L536[15:23:34] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/OmceGu8.jpg
L537[15:24:07] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/SgAWzDW.jpg
L538[15:24:11] <Deddly> Rokker, https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/156011-sr-71-blackbird-by-eorin-and-exothermos/
L539[15:24:18] <darsie> Has anyone used the impulse from Kerbals going on EVA? It changes orbits slightly.
L540[15:25:16] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/4U98oq0.jpg
L541[15:25:21] <Rokker> Deddly: nice
L542[15:26:11] <Deddly> I think he got Thread of the Month for that
L543[15:26:24] * Deddly away
L544[15:27:22] <Rokker> Deddly: wait
L545[15:27:28] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/tws5tSk.jpg
L546[15:27:33] <Rokker> ok now you can go
L547[15:27:51] <Deddly> Stop making me drool
L548[15:27:55] <Rokker> why does imgur keep messing up my pics
L549[15:28:11] <Rokker> my phone isn't like 100 pixels
L550[15:29:20] <Mat2ch> darsie: what do you mean?
L551[15:29:38] <darsie> Mat2ch: Use it for propulsion.
L552[15:30:01] <Mat2ch> darsie: I used Kerbals on EVA to push their capsules :D
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L554[15:30:31] <darsie> Yes, with the jetpack. I mean just by having them go on EVA and then go back in.
L555[15:30:52] <darsie> It also starts to spin rockets.
L556[15:31:09] <Mat2ch> Oh, well, Kerbals have mass and an impulse
L557[15:31:35] <darsie> Yes, but the impulse of rocket+kerbal should stay the same. It doesn't.
L558[15:32:53] <darsie> Go on EVA and back in and your Ap and Pe changed.
L559[15:33:10] <ve2dmn> darsie: Scott used fuel transfers as a method for changing his orbit in a video
L560[15:33:30] <darsie> :)
L561[15:33:31] <ve2dmn> a few things that should not change orbits do, but the effects are minor
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L568[15:41:02] <Rokker> I'm the smoothest operator around https://twitter.com/RokkerBoyy/status/996852277473431552?s=09
L569[15:41:03] <kmath> <RokkerBoyy> @ulalaunch I feel like I've seen this Titan IV fairing somewhere else but I Delta IV-get where I've seen it. :P https://t.co/2kwFQqPUqm
L570[15:41:20] <Supercheese> pun / 10
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L577[16:26:52] <Supercheese> Does the Textures Unlimited mod have any significant impact on performance/FPS?
L578[16:42:05] <Draconiator> https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/senate-barely-passes-resolution-restore-195000932.html
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L580[16:46:46] <Draconiator> https://kerbalx.com/Draconiator/Kerbals-of-Rock-Stage - Holy crapola this more or less shook up the KerbalX community based on the notifications I'm getting.]
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L585[16:55:38] <Rokker> Supercheese: oh. the museum also has a Me 262 and Me 163
L586[16:59:48] <Supercheese> Komet Sighted!
L587[16:59:53] <Supercheese> Stability: -1
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L591[17:11:22] <Eddi|zuHause> "I wish i was born in a more enligtened time"
L592[17:11:56] <Supercheese> If only we had more komet sense...
L593[17:12:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i think there's a version of that event that gives a bonus
L594[17:12:27] <Eddi|zuHause> when you have a scientific advisor
L595[17:13:13] <Supercheese> Yep
L596[17:13:32] <Eddi|zuHause> also, in stellaris it has different effects ;)
L597[17:13:33] <Supercheese> like your leader has to have a Scientific trait and then you get "Fascinating!" and some research
L598[17:13:46] <Supercheese> and in Hearts of Iron, the event is just a joke event
L599[17:14:45] <Eddi|zuHause> it probably exists in CkII as well
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L611[18:13:26] <Bllaank> https://imgur.com/gallery/6SXVTmg ???
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L613[18:19:33] <Supercheese> KSP doesn't need an internet connection so just blacklist it in your firewall if you feel like it
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L615[18:19:59] <Supercheese> the updated EULA was confirmed as just boilerplate and does not reflect Squad's practices, just generic Take Two overlord stuff
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L617[18:28:19] <Draconiator> Take Two....I've had a few of their games before I even found out about KSP...
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L625[19:05:54] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L638[20:07:44] <ve2dmn> btw, I heard that Paradox wanted to buy KSP...
L639[20:08:00] <ve2dmn> ...but they could not make a big enough offer
L640[20:08:29] <Kracc> doubtful they could've made a profit with it
L641[20:09:52] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/422dbbca06976adc738ade7aa0f8e8a3.jpg According to Spaceengine, this is what a planet with an atmosphere around a red dwarf would look like. learning how to use the filter even more heh
L642[20:11:22] <ve2dmn> Kracc: I got that info from the paradox podcast (the one about the business of games making)
L643[20:11:53] <Kracc> i'm just saying KSP is very late in it's game cycle and I'm not sure it'll be turning a profit for much longer
L644[20:12:31] <ve2dmn> Well, based on the Paradox model of things, they would have probably start making tons of DLC
L645[20:13:01] <Kracc> well would they be buying KSP or Squad's game development section
L646[20:13:33] <Kracc> because with separate company IPs they usually wrangle them in under pdx's publishing studio
L647[20:13:34] <ve2dmn> it never happened, so... no idea
L648[20:15:10] <ve2dmn> but 'indie' (or 'auteur' in some circle) is the big thing in gaming.... sort of like cryptocurrency on wall street
L649[20:16:08] <Kracc> DuoDex was this ever a thing brought up to your knowledge
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L651[20:22:53] <ve2dmn> I can't find the episode where they mentioned it https://soundcloud.com/paradoxinteractive
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L655[20:44:27] <Supernovy> one thing I've noticed is that medium studios have all but gone. Now it's mostly only big AAA and indies, PDX being one of the few exceptions.
L656[20:45:21] <Kracc> yeah
L657[20:45:36] <Kracc> mainly because all the medium studios died like in 2011-2014 or so
L658[20:45:43] <Kracc> and pdx was small enough then to avoid that
L659[20:45:50] <ve2dmn> In Montreal most of the indies studios are made up of ex-AAA employers
L660[20:45:59] <ve2dmn> employees*
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L663[21:18:40] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/d8095d64c2ebfc95eb0eab57cf6e5f01.png - Setting up the "Party at the Pad"
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L687[23:08:29] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/a612f9e6687ea44ad621885205d7bbdb.jpg - Question, do I have enough physical space to fit a graphics card upgrade? the ones I've seen have huge heatsinks on it....it's a GT610
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L690[23:28:55] <Apexseals> well
L691[23:28:59] <Apexseals> how much room do you actually have
L692[23:33:28] <Draconiator> Well, from the heatsink there to the top of the case, maybe 0.5"
L693[23:33:41] <Apexseals> http://www.inno3d.com/products_detail.php?refid=297
L694[23:33:44] <Apexseals> an option for you
L695[23:33:46] <Apexseals> single slot 1050 ti
L696[23:33:54] <Apexseals> would be significantly faster than a 610
L697[23:35:22] <Apexseals> it looks like you have froom for a double slot card
L698[23:35:34] <Apexseals> but tbh, if you want room for cooling, which it looks like you would, a single would be better
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L700[23:38:49] <Apexseals> your only other option
L701[23:38:55] <Apexseals> buy a 1060 or 1070
L702[23:39:03] <Apexseals> throw a waterblock on it, and make it a single slot
L703[23:40:23] <Apexseals> http://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/galax-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html
L704[23:40:25] <Apexseals> another option
L705[23:40:29] <Apexseals> single slot gtx 1070
L706[23:42:29] <Apexseals> if you can find one lol
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