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L12[01:06:35] <Epi> Draconiator, I approve 100% of KSP being used for shenanigans, that's awesome
L13[01:09:14] <Althego> what else would you want to use it for? serious research? maybe etology or psychology, but then it is a tool, and the human playing is the experiment
L14[01:11:39] <Epi> shenanigans *non typical KSP stuff
L15[01:14:01] <Gasher[work]> em, can anyone tell me what's specific for KSP then?
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L58[07:16:10] <ve2dmn> Today's Wikipedia article or the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman
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L65[07:58:23] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/444483267526131712/20180511145019_1.jpg
L66[07:58:29] <Fluburtur> wing broke, too much fast
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L68[08:07:55] <Guest34968> hallo zusammen. spricht hier wer deutsch?
L69[08:08:49] <Guest34968> ich hätte eine kurze frage zur steuerung
L70[08:17:20] <APlayer> Guest34968: Ja, aber die bevorzugte Sprache ist Egnlisch.
L71[08:25:07] <Rokker> Fluburtur: today is definitely gonna be a museum day for me
L72[08:25:30] <Fluburtur> isn't that the case every day?
L73[08:25:45] <Rokker> Fluburtur: also I'm an idiot
L74[08:25:58] <APlayer> That's not news anymore :P
L75[08:26:11] * APlayer hides
L76[08:26:32] <Rokker> Fluburtur: it took me like a year to realize that the PB4Y-2 was so heavily modified from the Liberator
L77[08:26:43] <Rokker> like I didn't even notice the H tail
L78[08:26:55] <Rokker> was missing
L79[08:27:12] <Mat2ch> Guest34968: we make exceptions, but only if you're really unable to speak english/Wir machen Ausnahmen, aber nur, wenn du wirklich kein Englisch kannst
L80[08:27:28] <Rokker> I speak american
L81[08:27:37] <Rokker> that's about it
L82[08:27:47] <Mat2ch> Out. Just out. :D
L83[08:28:32] <APlayer> Mat2ch: His problem is already solved. ;-)
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L85[08:29:07] <Mat2ch> Ah, I guess she/he did query you without asking? ;P
L86[08:29:12] <APlayer> He didn't know the key to switch Kerbals, so he had to select them by selectively entering and leaving vessels
L87[08:29:18] <APlayer> They. Yes, they.
L88[08:29:28] <APlayer> No, I queried them.
L89[08:30:04] <Mat2ch> hehe :D
L90[08:30:21] <APlayer> (You don't just query me without asking, though :P)
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L92[08:30:31] <Mat2ch> well, the default key is maybe not accessible on the German keyboard layout...
L93[08:30:34] * APlayer waits for the incoming queries
L94[08:30:53] <APlayer> The default does mismatch with the German keyboard layout, so it's understandable
L95[08:30:57] <Mat2ch> there was a time where querying people without asking first was considered very impolite. Is this still the case?
L96[08:31:02] <Rokker> dammit, this is KSPO, I can't make the joke I wanted
L97[08:31:04] <APlayer> I had to spend some time researching the same thing too, back then
L98[08:31:20] <Mat2ch> I just rebind many keys
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L100[08:31:42] <APlayer> Mat2ch: Well, if you have a good reason or good intentions, I guess that's acceptable. I am new to the internet though, so who knows?
L101[08:31:55] <APlayer> I did, in fact, rebind keys, yes.
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L104[08:39:32] <APlayer> So, I guess English essays in ten years will look like "Is Pluto a planet? Discuss pros and cons."
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L106[08:53:58] <Zarthus> answer: yes
L107[08:54:18] <Zarthus> it is also a dog
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L110[09:01:09] <Rokker> Fluburtur: I just saw the museum director but I was too nervous to say anything
L111[09:02:16] <Fluburtur> why
L112[09:05:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur: dudes a badass test pilot and I feel like I would feel out too much
L113[09:06:06] <Fluburtur> eh
L114[09:06:27] <Fluburtur> I hear if you fight a museum director and win you get to be the new director
L115[09:09:27] <Fluburtur> http://www.tripwireinteractive.com/news/arvn-content-update-announced-for-rising-storm-2-vietnam.aspx
L116[09:09:33] <Rokker> Fluburtur: oh, maybe I could fix all their crap mistakes
L117[09:09:46] <Fluburtur> yeah
L118[09:10:21] <Rokker> Fluburtur: they removed their storch
L119[09:10:30] <Fluburtur> why
L120[09:10:32] <Rokker> and i don't know where it is
L121[09:10:35] <Rokker> I am anmoyed
L122[09:10:35] <Rokker> annoyed
L123[09:12:59] <Fluburtur> yeah I understand
L124[09:13:03] <Fluburtur> poor storch
L125[09:19:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur: http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI57-6/1-1.jpg
L126[09:19:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur: http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI57-6/1-1.jpg
L127[09:20:15] <Rokker> dang it
L128[09:20:19] <Rokker> spotty connection
L129[09:20:23] <Fluburtur> wat is dat
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L132[09:22:33] <ve2dmn> It's clearly a page from a book
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L135[09:29:11] <Rokker> Fluburtur: it's a B-36 most of a B-58
L136[09:29:21] <Rokker> carrying most*
L137[09:29:28] <Fluburtur> lel
L138[09:31:26] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/KG1QWqJMm6o
L139[09:31:26] <kmath> YouTube - Air Engine Throttle
L140[09:37:13] <Rokker> Fluburtur: God the B-36 is big
L141[09:37:16] <Rokker> too big
L142[09:37:21] <Rokker> and yet not big enough
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L144[09:43:22] <transitbiker> bwoop
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L146[09:43:47] <Fluburtur> bwoop
L147[09:43:47] <transitbiker> why isnt ozone used as oxidizer in rockets?
L148[09:44:00] <transitbiker> too corrosive?
L149[09:44:13] <Fluburtur> probably easier to make oxygen
L150[09:44:22] <Dman979> Yeah, O2 is more common
L151[09:44:38] <Dman979> Also, it sounds like the twilight zone.
L152[09:44:43] <transitbiker> well i know its more common, but... O3 is far more reactive
L153[09:44:57] <Dman979> You are entering a zone where the normal rules of combustion don't apply. The Ozone.
L154[09:45:07] <transitbiker> wheh
L155[09:45:11] <transitbiker> hehe
L156[09:45:23] <transitbiker> Fluburtur, how goes the RC?
L157[09:45:28] <Fluburtur> good
L158[09:45:31] <Fluburtur> lemme find a pic
L159[09:45:35] <transitbiker> ok
L160[09:45:57] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/443738112292814848/DSC_8870.JPG
L161[09:47:52] <Rokker> Fluburtur: found the director again, he's giving a tour to some army people who are here, probably for training
L162[09:48:15] <Fluburtur> show him who's boss
L163[09:48:16] <transitbiker> nice
L164[09:48:25] <transitbiker> the prop, what will actually be used?
L165[09:49:18] <transitbiker> also, what are your thoughts of lighter props vs heavier? reduced energy use vs flywheel effect?
L166[09:50:40] <Fluburtur> that's just a desk model
L167[09:51:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur: contrarotating RC plane when
L168[09:51:20] <Fluburtur> also prop weight, I guess it just changes the energy required to change the speed of the prop
L169[09:51:35] <Fluburtur> Rokker soon™
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L171[09:52:16] <Fluburtur> I do need to make some 3d printed gearbox for that
L172[09:52:38] <Fluburtur> but I need to find myself some of those ceramic bearings they use in fidget spinner, they are fairly cheap and not too bad
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L177[10:36:55] <Fluburtur> I should make a new plane for transit
L178[10:40:26] <Fluburtur> Rokker https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/ft-what-did-you-do-rc-today-caution-offtopic-at-all-times.34729/page-19#lg=attachment107169&slide=0
L179[10:41:07] <Fluburtur> I should really start working on my vg33
L180[10:41:11] <Fluburtur> the rc one I mean
L181[10:41:16] <Fluburtur> I can already make the wings
L182[10:43:09] <Rokker> Fluburtur: what is this link
L183[10:43:20] <Fluburtur> big rc b25
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L190[10:52:51] <ve2dmn> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8inw3q/all_kerbals_were_harmed_in_the_making_of_this/
L191[10:55:50] <transitbiker> https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/300x300/71739359/riiiight.jpg
L192[10:57:45] <transitbiker> nyc street artists can be pretty amaxing
L193[10:58:10] <transitbiker> nice to see paris shares the trait ^-^
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L195[11:17:19] <Neal> has anyone used something like dropbox or onedrive to sync saves between computers?
L196[11:20:33] <Zarthus> not ksp saves, but sure
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L198[11:21:41] <jgkamat> Neal: yah, I do this with ksp + mega
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L203[11:37:28] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ah, that is a nice B-25
L204[11:37:41] <Fluburtur> big foamie one
L205[11:37:56] <Fluburtur> can probably use internal combustion engines in there actually
L206[11:38:01] <Fluburtur> at that size it would be better
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L211[11:54:25] <Fluburtur> the wings of it are a bit weird, the root is a modified e205 and the tips is rounded which will be a first for me
L212[11:56:37] <transitbiker> hurrr
L213[11:57:07] <transitbiker> you could use ethanol fuel, yar
L214[11:57:19] <transitbiker> with safflower oil for lube
L215[11:58:20] <Fluburtur> heh
L216[11:58:21] <transitbiker> yeah, actually...
L217[11:58:24] <transitbiker> that would work
L218[11:58:33] <Fluburtur> I have an old two stroke trimmer engine that I wanted to run on alcohol
L219[11:58:46] <Fluburtur> but I need to fully disasemble it and clean it
L220[11:59:04] <Fluburtur> I could put it in a vg33 but it would be a bit overpowered for that size of plane
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L222[11:59:12] <Fluburtur> and maybe too heavy
L223[11:59:15] <Fluburtur> is 25cc I thikn
L224[11:59:47] <transitbiker> just make sure it's ethyl alcohol, plus the plant oil, you'll get a good smell and you may actually get a bit more power out of it
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L227[12:00:32] <transitbiker> you'll need to clean/degrease the whole thing first, or you could get soot from residual petroleum products
L228[12:02:44] <transitbiker> another option is that you could adjust the timing to get a lean burn, which would help it stay cooler
L229[12:04:01] <transitbiker> if you did that, you would have to really pay attention to the fuel/oil mixture to ensure proper lubrication
L230[12:04:14] <transitbiker> shouldnt be too difficult, though
L231[12:04:37] <Fluburtur> yeah should be fine
L232[12:04:48] <Fluburtur> but yeah I need to do a complete check up of that engine first
L233[12:04:54] <Fluburtur> had it for like 5 years at least
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L235[12:05:24] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lDicKeoZcg
L236[12:05:24] <kmath> YouTube - The automotor
L237[12:05:29] <transitbiker> one time my dad forgot to check the mixture after having the engine tuned and it was belching smoke like a steam locomotive
L238[12:05:51] <transitbiker> too much oil
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L240[12:07:28] <Fluburtur> heh
L241[12:07:32] <transitbiker> and then, right before that push mower died, i literally had to use corn oil, olive oil, and rubbing alcohol in the tank, as it kept running really rough and idling shutdown... made a lot of fryer smelling smoke, but it ran smooth till the
L242[12:07:55] <transitbiker> crank shaft seized on the one end
L243[12:08:12] <Fluburtur> that's one way to kill an engine
L244[12:08:25] <Fluburtur> I guess if I remove all the crap on this small engine I can get it light enough
L245[12:08:52] <transitbiker> well the crankshaft was kind of already very abused from the blade striking rocks and tree roots, so it was only a matter of time
L246[12:09:21] <transitbiker> thing was like 20 years old
L247[12:10:31] <transitbiker> you ever look into using electric lawnmower motors for anything RC?
L248[12:10:42] <Fluburtur> nah those are crap
L249[12:10:55] <Fluburtur> brushed motors, no one wants that
L250[12:10:55] <transitbiker> not enough rpm?
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L252[12:11:11] <Fluburtur> I guess they could work for boats where weight doesn't matter
L253[12:11:11] <transitbiker> the one i have is actually brushless dc
L254[12:11:18] <Fluburtur> good for you
L255[12:11:22] <transitbiker> :D
L256[12:11:34] <transitbiker> i think brushed dc is pretty standard
L257[12:11:40] <Fluburtur> electric garden equipment is total crap like 99% of the time
L258[12:12:19] <transitbiker> yep, lot of companies want to make the bucks chashing in on the sustainability bandwagon, but what they end up putting out in the market is junk
L259[12:13:06] <Fluburtur> once when I was working at a garage we had a brand new electric start lawnmower and the batteries were dead on arrival
L260[12:14:12] <transitbiker> pft, some companies just dont care
L261[12:14:30] <Fluburtur> electric start is especially bad
L262[12:14:55] <Fluburtur> and working in a garage that deals in the average consumer garden equipment is hell
L263[12:15:15] <Fluburtur> because it looks like peoples do their best to totally destroy their stuff then want you to fix it for cheap
L264[12:15:34] <transitbiker> we have a greenworks mower, took it all apart and back together, it's very few parts, and the motor itself actually looks good, the windings, bushings, all the brackets etc look proper and heavier duty than needed, which put a smile on my face
L265[12:15:37] <transitbiker> mhm
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L267[12:16:14] <Fluburtur> garages for professional users are a bit better because more quality stuff
L268[12:16:23] <Fluburtur> like kubota tractors or such
L269[12:16:40] <Fluburtur> the little mowers are like super expensive but unkillable
L270[12:17:39] <transitbiker> there are one or two landscapers that i know of which use 100% electric equipment, but their stuff is mostly designed and built in-house
L271[12:17:45] <Neal> we really need a bigger deployable relay antenna in stock ksp =|
L272[12:17:56] <Fluburtur> honda stuff is also fairly good quality
L273[12:18:33] <transitbiker> the other part of the company does machining and circuit design for PV/wind
L274[12:18:46] <Fluburtur> fancy
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L276[12:20:45] <transitbiker> indeed, they charge a 13% premium on their yard services, but they are way quieter and they can give you a free PV and micro wind assessment, which normally costs the company proving the panels/turbines money and time better spent on employees and products
L277[12:20:51] <Fluburtur> k time to eat
L278[12:20:52] <Fluburtur> brb
L279[12:20:57] <transitbiker> enjoy
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L283[12:29:47] <Guest58065> hey guys
L284[12:30:03] <transitbiker> hi
L285[12:30:13] <Mod9000> Hello, transitbiker
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L287[12:31:16] <Guest58065> anybody uses NFP?
L288[12:31:44] <transitbiker> building a canard based quad goliath thing
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L294[12:37:59] <transitbiker> woah it works
L295[12:38:13] <transitbiker> i want to tuck the ventral engine up a bit more, though
L296[12:38:24] <transitbiker> very close to the ground
L297[12:40:49] <transitbiker> so the basic concept flies, just gotta make it into a finished craft
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L299[12:44:53] <Rokker> Fluburtur: https://i.imgur.com/vDscQZ8.jpg In this pic are 10 vehicles that broke mach 1, 5 broke mach 3, 2 broke mach 6, and one broke mach 32
L300[12:45:28] <Rokker> isn't humanity just incredible
L301[12:45:43] <Fluburtur> what is the plane with the nose intake over the xb70
L302[12:45:48] <transitbiker> https://i.imgur.com/0JrSAOQ.png
L303[12:46:37] <transitbiker> oh you mean the one where the intake is a duct over top the cockpit?
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L307[12:48:31] <Rokker> Fluburtur: the Bell X-5. A swing wing test bed
L308[12:48:44] <transitbiker> the TU-22 has engines above near the hstab
L309[12:51:05] <Rokker> Fluburtur: 11 if you count the fact the wheels of the X-1 that are barely visible
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L311[12:52:39] <transitbiker> english electric lightning?
L312[12:53:08] <Rokker> transitbiker: ... do you have me ignored
L313[12:53:35] <Rokker> cause I already answered him
L314[12:53:44] <transitbiker> this one? https://defenceoftherealm.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/english_electric_lightning_bac.jpg
L315[12:53:56] <Rokker> Fluburtur: please inform hjm
L316[12:54:02] <Rokker> cause this is gonna get old fast
L317[12:54:05] <Fluburtur> transitbiker Rokker is upset
L318[12:54:36] <transitbiker> well, it's a free country or so they say
L319[12:54:47] <Rokker> Fluburtur: he's trying to figure out a plane from a picture he can't see when I've given the answer
L320[12:55:15] <Fluburtur> he's talking about that plane right now
L321[12:55:21] <transitbiker> but is that one the right one?
L322[12:55:26] <Fluburtur> yes
L323[12:55:34] <Rokker> it's silly
L324[12:55:46] <transitbiker> it's a neat craft
L325[12:56:37] <Rokker> ...
L326[12:57:10] <Fluburtur> perhaps you should un-ignore rokker
L327[12:58:08] <transitbiker> i need lunch
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L330[13:02:29] <ve2dmn> I'm just sad I'll never get to experience mach speeds...
L331[13:02:57] <ve2dmn> ...but then, not a lot of people did
L332[13:03:26] <transitbiker> technically we are travelling many times the speed of sound through fixed space
L333[13:04:07] <ve2dmn> The definition of 'mach' speeds is only valid in a fluid
L334[13:04:13] <transitbiker> earth rotation, axial wobble, orbit around sun, sun orbit around galactic centre, galaxy moving through space
L335[13:04:37] <transitbiker> if it all stopped, you'd be a fluid
L336[13:04:40] <transitbiker> hehe
L337[13:04:51] <ve2dmn> cue relevant xkcd
L338[13:05:40] <Fluburtur> https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/grumman-f7f-tigercat-scratch-build.53548/page-2#lg=attachment107185&slide=0
L339[13:06:07] <ve2dmn> I'm sort of jealous my Brother-in-law actually did
L340[13:06:10] <Fluburtur> https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/grumman-f7f-tigercat-scratch-build.53548/page-2#lg=attachment107187&slide=0
L341[13:06:32] <Fluburtur> that damo guy is an actual tryhard whenit comes to making planes
L342[13:08:00] <ve2dmn> He managed to get permission to fly 'passanger' during an airshow
L343[13:08:11] <Fluburtur> nice
L344[13:08:17] <ve2dmn> more then once
L345[13:08:28] <Fluburtur> best I did was to sit on top of a rafale back in 2009
L346[13:10:02] <transitbiker> i flew next to the prop in a q400 once, on purpose
L347[13:10:09] <transitbiker> was loud
L348[13:10:52] <transitbiker> i think the q400 could benefit from a beefier turbine driving the prop
L349[13:11:16] <transitbiker> and better fit/finish checks before customer delivery
L350[13:12:20] <ve2dmn> (he was an official photograph)
L351[13:12:46] <ve2dmn> photographer*
L352[13:12:56] <VanDisaster> I used to commute to luxembourg from london city on various turboprops... got bumped to first a few times & realised it was worse than sitting at the back, sitting next to a prop is not good for the ears :p
L353[13:13:00] <transitbiker> i was an official passenger
L354[13:13:25] <transitbiker> yeah, it was an interesting experience
L355[13:13:53] <transitbiker> i wasnt going to miss out on my one time flying, so i booked those seats specifically
L356[13:13:53] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: I did that from Montreal to Sept-Iles. Turbosprops are not fun
L357[13:14:28] <VanDisaster> flying up the Thames estuary on a turboprop is a bit of an odd & amusing experience, kinda like you're in 1940 suddenly :p
L358[13:14:38] <VanDisaster> and then landing at LCR is terrifying
L359[13:14:42] <transitbiker> the flight itself was fine, pretty smooth, was really cool to see the gear and the prop doing their thing
L360[13:14:46] <VanDisaster> but the rest I can do without
L361[13:15:15] <transitbiker> i had a photo somewhere of the view, dunno where it went
L362[13:15:22] <transitbiker> might be able to find it, hold on
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L364[13:16:13] <VanDisaster> LCY even
L365[13:16:26] <VanDisaster> always thikn you're going to end up in the dock
L366[13:16:59] <transitbiker> sounds like laguardia or jfk
L367[13:17:13] <VanDisaster> LCY is literally built in a dock
L368[13:17:18] <VanDisaster> without filling the dock in
L369[13:17:26] <VanDisaster> just the runway
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L371[13:17:46] <transitbiker> heh
L372[13:18:23] <VanDisaster> plenty of YT vids of arrival, it's an interesting place
L373[13:18:30] <VanDisaster> reallysteep approach
L374[13:20:54] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: reminds me of Haneda Airport
L375[13:21:59] <VanDisaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgLIsyWFdeY
L376[13:21:59] <kmath> YouTube - Dash8 Q400 Panoramic approach over London city - EGLC / LCY cockpit
L377[13:22:22] <VanDisaster> altho thats the less watery end I think
L378[13:23:39] <transitbiker> well, this thing can get into the air with one engine operable
L379[13:23:49] <transitbiker> i'd call this a success
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L383[13:28:43] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: I'm actually suprised that they use Q400. I would imagine that since Europe is a lot more dense, bigger planes would make more economic sense
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L386[13:30:34] <transitbiker> london city airport has had restrictions put on size of aircraft that can use it
L387[13:31:07] <transitbiker> also
L388[13:31:11] <ve2dmn> Last time I took such a plane, was to go to a 'city' where the airport was actually bigger then the city itself... of city of barely more then 25k popualtion
L389[13:32:02] <transitbiker> regional jets and turboprops are more practical and flexible for smaller airports for both the runway length and the terminal size itself
L390[13:32:49] <ve2dmn> I was only talking about the economics of such a plane. If it is profitable, then I guess it's worth running it
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L392[13:33:39] <transitbiker> some airports are not located where you think they'd be, larger facility in a smaller town may make sense if the craft will take on cargo and/or fuel and exchange passengers
L393[13:34:58] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehN6u_A8KOE
L394[13:34:58] <kmath> YouTube - Flat Earth Pilots - here is my cockpit... Now show me yours.
L395[13:35:21] <Althego> feels kind of nostalgic to me
L396[13:35:29] <Althego> the fms screens
L397[13:35:33] <Althego> that font
L398[13:35:34] <transitbiker> or maybe there is a strategic benefit such as location near production or maintinence facility
L399[13:35:37] <Althego> all too familiar
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L401[13:36:18] <ve2dmn> transitbiker: Sept-iles is a Hub for a lot of remote locations
L402[13:36:30] <ve2dmn> namely Labrador
L403[13:36:39] <transitbiker> there you go
L404[13:37:39] <ve2dmn> but it's 200km away from almost everything
L405[13:39:42] <ve2dmn> https://goo.gl/maps/KmhYSzsUf9S2
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L407[13:44:22] <ve2dmn> Note that it's cheaper for me to go to Miami then go to that regional airport... even if it is a Hub
L408[13:46:12] <Rokker> ve2dmn: maybe you will get lucky and Boom will succeed
L409[13:46:19] <Rokker> supersonic travel yay
L410[13:49:52] <Rokker> Jesus christ
L411[13:50:00] <Rokker> there is a huge breeze through the museum
L412[13:54:20] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/2b26eae40e217bde087b64ce87c8d97a/tumblr_inline_p1bmea52aj1r74g00_540.gif
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L414[14:03:12] <oren> Theoretically would a rocket spaceport be larger or smaller than a normal airport
L415[14:04:07] <oren> I was thinking smaller but then I remembered the noise problem
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L417[14:04:49] <oren> how much standoff distance did the saturn V need
L418[14:05:11] <ve2dmn> oren: define 'normal'
L419[14:07:16] <oren> ve2dmn: one that can handle intercontinental flights
L420[14:08:00] <oren> which is the niche in which I can see supersonic and rocket travel competing
L421[14:10:45] <Eddi|zuHause> i think there are too many open questions to answer that
L422[14:11:17] <oren> well the shuttle keep-out zone is a radius of 3 miles
L423[14:11:59] <Eddi|zuHause> like, how does boarding a rocket work?
L424[14:12:08] <Eddi|zuHause> are they boarding at the launchpad?
L425[14:12:28] <oren> yeah probbly
L426[14:12:28] <Eddi|zuHause> how many launchpads do you need to prepare and start a rocket every few minutes?
L427[14:13:20] <Eddi|zuHause> (as we are comparing with busy airports, let's say Frankfurt, Heathrow, Charles de Gaulle)
L428[14:13:50] <Eddi|zuHause> (we'd be expecting a similar number of flights)
L429[14:14:02] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/EGBkpmz.jpg who wants to guess what this is
L430[14:14:12] <oren> the boosters would be RTLS as in the Earth to earth animation
L431[14:14:28] <oren> therefore it depends how fast you can refuel a booster
L432[14:14:59] <Rokker> anyone
L433[14:15:24] <oren> Rokker: some sort of hatch cover?
L434[14:16:58] <oren> what is the total diameter of the pipes going into a booster and what is the viscosity and density of the fueks
L435[14:17:10] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/L8sYLmO.jpg
L436[14:18:14] <oren> Rokker: so what is it
L437[14:18:37] <oren> It isn;t a htch it's too small for the guys to get out of it
L438[14:18:46] <oren> hmmm
L439[14:18:53] <Rokker> oren: SM to CM umbilical
L440[14:19:14] <Eddi|zuHause> i think an earth-to-earth-rocket port would have a regular airport nearby anyway, to collect shorter distance flights for connecting purposes
L441[14:20:03] <oren> .nextlaunch
L442[14:20:24] <Rokker> oren: wrong channel
L443[14:20:30] <Rokker> oren: less than an hour now
L444[14:20:50] <Eddi|zuHause> and at that point, you're probably looking to extending existing airports with a few rocket launchpads
L445[14:21:05] <Eddi|zuHause> so the question of "what is bigger" becomes moot
L446[14:22:03] <Eddi|zuHause> on that note, what exactly is "moot" anyway?
L447[14:23:49] <Rokker> Jesus Christ, I never looked at the "leading edge" of the Apollo 15 bottom before
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L449[14:24:10] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/4nTd0p3.jpg
L450[14:24:14] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/7e31e79c84d9b12214cff5ef994ee29d.jpg
L451[14:24:14] <Rokker> look at it
L452[14:24:18] <Rokker> LOOK AT IT
L453[14:24:27] <Rokker> it's all gone
L454[14:25:20] <VanDisaster> ve2dmn: shorthaul is in competition wth trains here
L455[14:25:31] <VanDisaster> it's a really tight market
L456[14:26:50] <ve2dmn> We have no shorthaul. Only vast empty space
L457[14:26:57] <VanDisaster> trains doing city centre-city centre at 320kph is not really slower than a plane after you include messing at the airport
L458[14:28:02] <Rokker> why is nobody looking at it :(
L459[14:29:12] <VanDisaster> ve2dmn: you do have trains tho, I've been on canadian trains :p
L460[14:29:26] <oren> Eddi|zuHause: "moot" is the admin of 4chan
L461[14:29:50] <VanDisaster> middle-of-nowhere-canada to montreal & back iirc
L462[14:29:57] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: not the same market
L463[14:30:18] <oren> VanDisaster: we have really really crappy trains in canada
L464[14:30:54] <oren> canada is basically a third world country in terms of tech infrastucture
L465[14:31:14] <ve2dmn> oren: I've taken Amtrak. Several times. it's not that crappy. Only really crappy
L466[14:31:26] <VanDisaster> even euro/asian high speed rail wouldn't beat a plane over there, thats probably why
L467[14:31:37] <ve2dmn> ^
L468[14:32:08] <ve2dmn> Market Incentives are just not there
L469[14:32:22] <ve2dmn> although, I would LOVE overnight trains
L470[14:32:36] <VanDisaster> plus you have like half the population of the UK or France
L471[14:33:09] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: 60% of that population is in the Quebec-Windsor corridor
L472[14:33:46] <VanDisaster> less than the pop of california, apparently
L473[14:33:54] <ve2dmn> yup
L474[14:35:11] <VanDisaster> but say london to paris... train is 3 hrs & the stations are central
L475[14:35:25] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: https://brilliantmaps.com/half-canada/
L476[14:35:38] <VanDisaster> plane is something less than an hour iirc but you're gonna spend forever going to & from the airports & doing checkin
L477[14:35:59] <oren> ve2dmn: and the other half hates us
L478[14:36:44] <ve2dmn> oren: which half are you in?
L479[14:37:37] <oren> the south
L480[14:37:44] <oren> Toronto
L481[14:37:54] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: Compare my trip to NYC: 10h by train for 70CDN or 90min by plane for (180CDN).
L482[14:38:01] <oren> currently at yonge and bay
L483[14:38:11] <oren> er bloor and bay
L484[14:38:25] <oren> whatever
L485[14:38:33] <ve2dmn> oren: I'm sorry
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L487[14:42:13] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa distance Montreal to New York
L488[14:42:17] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: distance->from->Montreal, Quebec, Canada, to->New York City, New York: 540.3 km (kilometers)
L489[14:42:43] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa distance Berlin to Munich
L490[14:42:45] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: distance->from->Berlin, Germany, to->Munich, Bavaria, Germany: 503.7 km (kilometers)
L491[14:43:05] <ve2dmn> oren: http://metrocosm.com/canada-population-map/
L492[14:43:16] <Rokker> Kerbal cockpits are too clean and organizef
L493[14:43:18] <Eddi|zuHause> they just opened a new track here that cut down train times from berlin to munich from 6h to 4h
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L495[14:44:00] <Rokker> https://i.imgur.com/2GdgJnA.jpg
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L497[14:44:23] <ve2dmn> T-30min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk
L498[14:44:24] <kmath> YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission
L499[14:45:01] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: how many stops between the 2 ?
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L501[14:45:18] <Eddi|zuHause> for the really fast ones? about 4 or so
L502[14:46:27] <ve2dmn> Between Montreal and NYC there are about 12 or 15 stops, but besides Albany, most towns are stops are below 100k population
L503[14:47:05] <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.bahn.de/p/view/service/zug/fahrzeuge/ice_sprinter.shtml <-- looks like 3 inbetween stops
L504[14:47:16] <ve2dmn> one of the 'BIG STOP' on that line is Plattsburgh,NY with a population of 20k
L505[14:47:29] <Eddi|zuHause> there are other "still fast" ones with more
L506[14:47:34] <ve2dmn> There is no way a high-speed train would be profitable :(
L507[14:49:40] <ve2dmn> They even got rid of the Montreal-Boston Train a few years ago
L508[14:52:33] <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.bahn.de/p/view/service/zug/fahrzeuge/vde8.shtml <-- this is a more complete overview over the long-distance trains over that new track
L509[14:52:57] <Althego> ah, bahn.de, it has been a while since i last needed to use it :)
L510[14:53:14] <ve2dmn> see you go through a major city centers. IT's worth it
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L512[14:53:55] <Eddi|zuHause> depends on what you call "major" :p
L513[14:54:15] <Althego> major tom :)
L514[14:54:44] <Eddi|zuHause> great. now i have a song stuck in my head :p
L515[14:54:46] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: population >250k ?
L516[14:55:12] <Eddi|zuHause> ve2dmn: ok, that would cover about half of the towns on that image
L517[14:55:54] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Bamberg
L518[14:55:56] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Bamberg, Bavaria, Germany->city population: 69574 people (country rank: ~~124th) (2007 estimate)
L519[14:56:10] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Eisenach
L520[14:56:12] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Eisenach, Thuringia, Germany->city population: 41884 people (country rank: ~~254th) (2014 estimate)
L521[14:56:13] <Althego> what is bam?
L522[14:56:28] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: you wanna discuss etymology of place names?
L523[14:56:35] <Althego> hehe not really
L524[14:56:36] <ve2dmn> Eddi|zuHause: you can't find a city center on this line with a population of 100k... https://www.amtrak.com/adirondack-train
L525[14:56:46] <ve2dmn> (aside from source and destination of course)
L526[14:56:54] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Fulda
L527[14:56:56] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Fulda, Hesse, Germany->city population: 65540 people (country rank: ~~132nd) (2014 estimate)
L528[14:57:02] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Erfurt
L529[14:57:04] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Erfurt, Thuringia, Germany->city population: 210118 people (country rank: 37th) (2015 estimate)
L530[14:57:20] <Eddi|zuHause> see, even this "state capital" thingie doesn't match your criterium
L531[14:57:32] <Althego> criterion?
L532[14:58:20] <Eddi|zuHause> whatever
L533[14:58:53] <ve2dmn> :P
L534[14:59:00] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Halle (Saale)
L535[14:59:02] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Halle, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany->city population: 235720 people (country rank: 31st) (2007 estimate)
L536[14:59:20] <ve2dmn> Anyway, my remark was that it makes enconomic sense to develop more lines
L537[14:59:21] <Althego> ;wa population of stolberg rheinland
L538[14:59:23] <kmath> Althego: Stolberg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany->city population -> Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany->population: Stolberg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany->58540 people (country rank: ~~151st) (2007 -- this crap is too long.
L539[14:59:37] <Althego> hehe
L540[14:59:47] <Eddi|zuHause> really, after the biggest towns of Berlin, Munich and Frankfurt population drops really quick....
L541[14:59:51] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk
L542[14:59:52] <kmath> YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission
L543[14:59:58] <Althego> nah, watch it for me
L544[15:00:03] <Althego> i need to sleep
L545[15:00:07] <ve2dmn> while, Amtrack 69 has barely enough traffic to run once per day
L546[15:00:17] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Leipzig
L547[15:00:19] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Leipzig, Saxony, Germany->city population: 506578 people (country rank: 13th) (2007 estimate)
L548[15:00:22] <ve2dmn> ... and it has to yeild to cargo trains
L549[15:00:24] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa population of Dresden
L550[15:00:26] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: Dresden, Saxony, Germany->city population: 523058 people (country rank: 12th) (2010 estimate)
L551[15:00:36] <Althego> dresden files :)
L552[15:00:47] <Eddi|zuHause> i watched that series
L553[15:01:01] <Althego> pales in comparison to the books
L554[15:01:08] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
L555[15:01:13] <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't really read books
L556[15:01:17] <ve2dmn> Live!
L557[15:01:25] <Althego> still alive?
L558[15:01:36] <Eddi|zuHause> this was a triumph?
L559[15:01:39] <ve2dmn> T-12min
L560[15:01:47] <Althego> what
L561[15:01:52] <Althego> cant be
L562[15:01:58] <Althego> isnt it around midnighT?Úú
L563[15:02:14] <ve2dmn> http://nextrocket.space/
L564[15:03:17] <ve2dmn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk
L565[15:03:18] <kmath> YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission
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L567[15:04:32] <APlayer> What, T-10:00?
L568[15:04:38] <APlayer> I thought it was in like 2 hourse
L569[15:04:38] <ve2dmn> yes
L570[15:04:41] <APlayer> hours*
L571[15:04:48] <Eddi|zuHause> 2 horses?
L572[15:04:49] <APlayer> Hehe, hourse
L573[15:04:49] <Althego> yes me too
L574[15:04:57] <Althego> maybe they moved it forward during the day
L575[15:05:06] <ve2dmn> 2 houses? luckey you
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L577[15:08:41] <Althego> is that the guy again with the face during the falcon heavy launch?
L578[15:08:46] <Blaank> T-5m woooo
L579[15:09:28] <ve2dmn> the face?
L580[15:10:01] <Althego> when he heard in his earpiece that the core crashed
L581[15:11:15] <Althego> why is this decreasing chamber pressure good?
L582[15:11:22] <Althego> eats less fuel?
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L584[15:12:04] <Tank2333> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk
L585[15:12:05] <kmath> YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission
L586[15:12:19] <Rokker> my view during this launch https://i.imgur.com/cjUa8ei.jpg
L587[15:12:29] <Althego> hehe
L588[15:12:30] <Rokker> I'm watching a f9 launch next to Apollo 15
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L590[15:12:48] <Rokker> cool or too cool for school?
L591[15:12:55] <Tank2333> 100%
L592[15:13:09] <Althego> 1 m
L593[15:13:58] <Tank2333> 10s
L594[15:13:58] <Althego> 156k watching, not bad for a company not in news or media
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L596[15:14:38] <Tank2333> yeah
L597[15:14:54] <Tank2333> they have 1.7 million subs too
L598[15:14:57] <APlayer> Gotta love how everyone is clapping before the rocket even cleared the launch tower
L599[15:15:07] <Althego> they just do cool stuff :)
L600[15:15:30] <Althego> there was some point there
L601[15:15:36] <Althego> the narration mentioned something
L602[15:15:48] <ve2dmn> MaxQ
L603[15:16:15] <Althego> hah
L604[15:16:26] <Tank2333> sponsored by nVidea
L605[15:16:26] <Althego> i missed these onboard views on the insight
L606[15:16:35] <Althego> hehe
L607[15:17:20] <Tank2333> uh round earth, so fake
L608[15:17:31] <Althego> fisheye lens :)
L609[15:17:53] <Tank2333> will they catch the fairings?
L610[15:17:53] <Althego> which it is, but of course the line going through the center is undistorted, so earth is curved
L611[15:18:56] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: FAKE NEWS!!!
L612[15:19:43] <Althego> what keeps that shiny foil puffy?
L613[15:19:52] <Althego> on only one side?
L614[15:20:06] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, on the origin of "Bamberg", the name apparently goes back to a "Castle Babenberg" which was there around 900, owned by the Babenberg-Family
L615[15:20:10] <Tank2333> never saw those vibration when fireing the cold gas thrusters
L616[15:20:28] <Althego> it is reentry
L617[15:20:37] <Althego> or on the second stage?
L618[15:20:43] <Tank2333> on the first
L619[15:20:57] <Tank2333> i mean never saw it so intensly on other launches
L620[15:21:11] <Tank2333> maybe different camera mounting?
L621[15:21:37] <Althego> hehe as usual
L622[15:21:40] <Althego> no image for landing
L623[15:21:44] <Althego> never ever
L624[15:21:47] <Blaank> THE CAMERA
L625[15:21:53] <Althego> dont tell me it is a coincidence every time
L626[15:22:01] <Rokker> RIP camera
L627[15:22:05] <Blaank> every time
L628[15:22:09] <Blaank> It's a conspiracy
L629[15:22:39] <Blaank> I just want a good drone ship landing video
L630[15:22:42] <Tank2333> lol
L631[15:22:46] <Althego> magic
L632[15:22:47] <Blaank> magic trick
L633[15:22:50] <Blaank> They staged it
L634[15:22:54] <Althego> elon, the illusionist
L635[15:22:56] <Blaank> It was already there and the other one crashed behind it.
L636[15:23:03] <Althego> doesnt make a rocket disappear, makes it appear
L637[15:23:07] <APlayer> Okay, this is the first time that was actually appropriate for clapping
L638[15:23:09] <ve2dmn> Blaank: of course, they staged it. that's how a rocket is launched
L639[15:23:10] <Althego> like bunny from hat
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L641[15:24:15] <Tank2333> or bird
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L645[15:31:09] <Tank2333> http://www.gstatic.com/b-g/5717BWTLRKCBB8JUDQ1QUA6HMC26WL238301173.mp3 google duplex thingy calling a restaurant, Turing would be blown away
L646[15:34:47] <Tank2333> i can imagin that google assistants calling other google assistants make buissness :)
L647[15:41:40] <Rokker> Fluburtur: isn't this beau-tiful https://i.imgur.com/NyCMOb9.jpg
L648[15:41:50] <ve2dmn> Tank2333: They'll develop thier own language.
L649[15:41:59] <Tank2333> newspeak
L650[15:42:05] <Fluburtur> is that a mosquitto?
L651[15:42:21] <Fluburtur> or beaufighter maybe
L652[15:42:21] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ...
L653[15:42:26] <Tank2333> Rokker werent those made out of wood?
L654[15:42:27] <Rokker> beau-tiful
L655[15:42:46] <Rokker> Tank2333: mosquitos were, beaufighters were not
L656[15:42:55] <Tank2333> ah okay
L657[15:43:57] <Rokker> Tank2333 it sure must have taken some real komet-ment to fly one of these https://i.imgur.com/x7mvGIU.jpg
L658[15:44:39] <Supercheese> Komet Sighted! -1 Stability
L659[15:44:46] <Rokker> ay
L660[15:45:02] <Supercheese> If only we had more comet sense...
L661[15:46:01] <Rokker> Tank2333: being a pilot knowing you are going up against one of these, but that must have been tough to swallow https://i.imgur.com/bwqXkRh.jpg
L662[15:46:24] <Fluburtur> ell the mk108 are horrible
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L664[15:46:42] <Rokker> shush I'm making crappy puns
L665[15:46:47] <Fluburtur> they are mostly a danger to bombers
L666[15:47:16] <Rokker> shhhh
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L669[15:48:53] <Supercheese> I rate pun/10
L670[15:50:03] <Draconiator> With a satellite with the name of "Bangabanga", I'd think there's two people who are very much in love aboard.
L671[15:51:26] <Rokker> Draconiator: you should see the nicknames we are making in #spacex
L672[15:51:36] <Rokker> teasing the only Bangladeshi in there
L673[15:52:46] <Supercheese> well at least it seemed like the launch was... bang on
L674[15:54:01] <Rokker> Fluburtur: make a wish https://i.imgur.com/ye20SQB.jpg
L675[15:54:10] <Fluburtur> lel
L676[15:54:23] <Tank2333> what is up with that blur
L677[15:56:14] <Rokker> Tank2333: museum is closing, I'm rushing
L678[15:56:23] <Supercheese> There is no airplane here, it's only an optical ilyushin https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/IL-2_%2836318432892%29.jpg
L679[15:56:31] <Supercheese> (gotta get in on these juicy puns)
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L681[16:00:49] <Tank2333> ok
L682[16:01:07] <Tank2333> IL2 for the win
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L684[16:04:26] <Draconiator> https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/66705cb9-f15d-3748-9fe4-bbae174ccf52/ss_this-is-the-bizarre-tale-of.html
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L686[16:04:47] <Draconiator> lol, lasers. LASERS are the bane of all flat earth theories.
L687[16:11:29] <Draconiator> I CAN'T SEE CURVATURE DOWN HERE SO IT MUST BE FLAT UP THERE TOOHHYUKHYUK OH AND I MARRIED MY SISTER MWEEEHEEHEE
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L692[16:29:29] <Tank2333> Draconiator odd story, but the article is way to long
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L695[16:42:58] <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is a "First annual <whatever>" anyway?
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L697[16:45:16] <Supercheese> a very odd turn of phrase
L698[16:45:19] <Supercheese> that's what
L699[16:47:02] <Eddi|zuHause> well, statistically, the majority of "first annual <whatever>"s will never see a second iteration
L700[16:47:48] <Supercheese> which would then invalidate the "annual" bit
L701[16:48:24] <Supercheese> ah well, people seem to use it anyway
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L703[16:56:14] <KrazyKrl> "He named it 'My first annual funeral' as a joke. He was never very funny."
L704[16:58:40] <KrazyKrl> "He did collect the letter T from the newspaper headline every sunday which had it."
L705[17:01:57] <Tank2333> that funeral joke is funny though
L706[17:07:16] <KrazyKrl> [citation needed]
L707[17:08:35] <sandbox_> you have to start somewhere
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L709[17:14:37] <KrazyKrl> "You have to start somewhere." is a horrible way to start the final few paragraphs of an epitaph.
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L712[17:24:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hey guys
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L714[17:26:03] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
L715[17:28:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> I calculated the surface gravity of Cygnus X-1
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L717[17:33:24] <dsockwell> what is it?
L718[17:33:34] <dsockwell> and what do you mean surface?
L719[17:33:41] <GurrenLagannTSS> Around 104 bllion Gs
L720[17:33:55] <dsockwell> i guess that's enough Gs
L721[17:35:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> True
L722[17:35:28] <GurrenLagannTSS> Well my calculator can go up to 20 digits
L723[17:35:51] <GurrenLagannTSS> So its exactly 103,888,010,621.38977 Gs
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L725[17:36:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> Or 1,020,381,731,363.219 m/s²
L726[17:38:08] <dsockwell> how are you determining what the surface is? are you just setting some radius to 0 in a formula?
L727[17:39:02] <Supernovy> I presume a simple GMm/r² but with r being the radius of Cygnus itself.
L728[17:39:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> I set it to 43 km/43000 m
L729[17:39:18] <Supernovy> cancel out small m for acceleration
L730[17:39:26] <dsockwell> the radius being 0?
L731[17:40:57] <Supernovy> The radius being 43 km.
L732[17:41:10] <dsockwell> why is the radius of a black hole 43 km?
L733[17:41:18] <GurrenLagannTSS> How do i do it? I got a absurd 45.9 quadrillion m/s²
L734[17:42:54] <GurrenLagannTSS> or exactly 4,684,915,871,633,854.5308422061489125 Gs
L735[17:47:44] <dsockwell> do you get a different surface gravity for other black holes?
L736[17:48:31] <GurrenLagannTSS> Maybe
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L739[17:51:09] <Supercheese> Gee whiz
L740[17:51:16] <Supercheese> Gs Louise
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L744[18:21:32] <Rokker> Fluburtur: so you excited about the new 2020 rover payload news that just came out?
L745[18:21:42] <Fluburtur> what news
L746[18:23:17] <Rokker> Fluburtur: NASA has confirmed they are sending a tiny helicopter to mars
L747[18:23:25] <Fluburtur> nice
L748[18:23:32] <Rokker> RC Mars chooper
L749[18:23:34] <Rokker> chopper
L750[18:23:35] <Rokker> yay
L751[18:24:08] <BenjaminK> you serious?
L752[18:24:34] <Supercheese> Nice if true
L753[18:25:10] <Rokker> BenjaminK: yes
L754[18:25:37] <Rokker> its basically a chopper on top of a cubesat that is gonna be landed on mars with teh rover
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L756[18:32:01] <Supernovy> Must need a big rotor for the martian atmosphere.
L757[18:32:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> Hype
L758[18:32:46] <Fluburtur> im not sure either a heli is the best choice but maybe they have some inflatable rotor or something cool like that
L759[18:32:51] <Rokker> Supernovy: nah, not that big
L760[18:32:57] <Rokker> Fluburtur: nope
L761[18:33:02] <Rokker> almost looks plastic
L762[18:33:12] <Fluburtur> fiber?
L763[18:33:24] <Rokker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOMQOqKRWjU
L764[18:33:25] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Mars Helicopter Technology Demonstration
L765[18:33:26] <Fluburtur> my heli blades are fiberglass
L766[18:33:30] <Rokker> contrarotating at least
L767[18:34:52] <Fluburtur> that's some beefy blades
L768[18:35:24] <Rokker> Fluburtur: i kinda expected longer but fatter probably makes more sense
L769[18:35:41] <Rokker> more lifting area for lower moment of inertia and all that
L770[18:35:51] <Fluburtur> gotta be able to fit those somewhere
L771[18:36:01] <Fluburtur> yeah longer blades are always more efficient
L772[18:36:09] <Rokker> Fluburtur: its a rover the size of the SUV
L773[18:36:15] <Rokker> theres room
L774[18:38:11] <Fluburtur> you know the rotor diameter of thise thing?
L775[18:38:33] <Rokker> nope
L776[18:38:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> no
L777[18:39:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur: found it, jesus
L778[18:39:27] <Rokker> Fluburtur: cube is larger than i thought
L779[18:39:37] <Rokker> 1.1 m rotor diameter
L780[18:39:46] <Fluburtur> oh yeah that's fairly beefy
L781[18:39:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> omg
L782[18:39:53] <GurrenLagannTSS> huge
L783[18:40:02] <Fluburtur> still not the largest rc helicopter
L784[18:40:19] <Rokker> Fluburtur: largest interplanetary RC helicopter
L785[18:40:36] <Fluburtur> I dont think there were many helicopters in space
L786[18:40:43] <Rokker> Fluburtur: besids, the largest RC helicopter would be a drone heli
L787[18:41:03] <Rokker> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Mars_Helicopter_Scout
L788[18:43:09] <GurrenLagannTSS> NASA officials announced on 11 May 2018 that the helicopter was approved to fly on the Mars 2020 mission.
L789[18:43:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> HYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE
L790[18:43:42] <Fluburtur> also, look at that difference in airfoils
L791[18:43:44] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/444645750006087701/DSC_8889.JPG
L792[18:44:14] <Rokker> have yall seen the Insight launch footage ULA released yesterday
L793[18:44:49] <Rokker> Fluburtur: pretty sure thats aluminum foil not air foil
L794[18:45:25] <Supernovy> air foil would be even lighter than aluminium foil.
L795[18:45:35] <Fluburtur> that's the templates to cut the foam wings
L796[18:46:14] <Rokker> seriously tho guys
L797[18:46:21] <Rokker> have u seen the new InSight footage
L798[18:46:44] <Supernovy> I have not.
L799[18:47:50] <Rokker> Supernovy: this is some great great launch footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02mEFLOsMHM
L800[18:47:50] <kmath> YouTube - Atlas V InSight Rocket Cam
L801[18:47:56] <Rokker> starts off a bit crap
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L806[19:21:39] <Fluburtur> I ordered a nice servo for hte tail rotor of my heli but im kinda impatient and I want to try it with a cheapo plastic gears servo
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L808[19:25:27] <ConductorCat> :3
L809[19:25:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> I made a nice description for a planet
L810[19:25:50] <GurrenLagannTSS> "This planet was once completely mechanical, but the star's heat evaporated the metals from its surface. Now its just a tungsten ball with oceans of molten nickel."
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L836[22:17:30] <zerothis> when i tell my Kerbal to "leave seat" (EAS-1) my solar panels break apart (leaving the ship stranded).
L837[22:19:14] <Eddi|zuHause> we all must pay sacrifices to the Kracken
L838[22:20:52] <zerothis> I didn't realize the Kracken was so reliable. When I reload and do things differently, the same thing happens.
L839[22:25:00] <Eddi|zuHause> once he put his mark on you, there's no escaping
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L841[22:28:29] <Supercheese> krak attack
L842[22:40:11] <UmbralRaptor> Work around: retract the panels?
L843[22:55:57] <Neal> sounds like the nonretractable ones
L844[22:57:24] <UmbralRaptor> Blarg.
L845[22:57:37] <UmbralRaptor> Random excessive forces?
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L849[23:04:07] <zerothis> 49 tries and I got one that didn't break my retractable panels.
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L853[23:04:57] <Althego> https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/995045447021494274
L854[23:04:58] <kmath> <✔thesheetztweetz> Look at the relief from @elonmusk on the @SpaceX livestream – you can tell how important this first #Block5 mission… https://t.co/BZwtm4nnxX
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L856[23:18:12] <Kalpa> Can't say I'm surprised, considering how bad tesla is doing!
L857[23:23:22] <Althego> what is on his t-shirT? occupy what?
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L860[23:25:05] <Kalpa> Occupy Mars
L861[23:42:14] <Althego> that long brown thing is supposed to be mars?
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