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L1[00:01:07] <TheKosmonaut>
Scolar_Visari:... I would play that
L2[00:01:35] <TheKosmonaut> Pont du Hoc can
be a fortified asteroid
L3[00:02:10] <Scolar_Visari> "Sir, the
French Nuclear Cannons aren't on the surface!" "Oh crap!
Get a breaching charge on that airlock then, we're going
in!"
L4[00:02:47] <Scolar_Visari> Heck, this
would be a compelling reason for episodic, campaign DLC instead of
loot boxes and multiplayer maps no one uses.
L5[00:03:24] <Scolar_Visari> Space Poland
would be a pretty sweet campaign.
L6[00:06:17] <Scolar_Visari> Though I
suppose space combat would have to be its own separate game with
Space Germany cloak-boats attacking convoys.
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L10[00:22:53] *
Scolar_Visari goes off to remake World War II in space, complete
with a hover chair using FDR, a cybernetic Stalin, Churchill's head
in a jar and, of course, the final boss of Wolfenstein
3d.
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L12[00:23:07] <BadRocketsCO> Hahah :D
L13[00:23:22] <BadRocketsCO> what a start
to my day.
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L15[00:25:49] <Althego> lol
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L17[00:28:42] <BadRocketsCO> what�s
up?
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L20[00:36:50] <BadRocketsCO> Did a
thing.
L21[00:38:03] <jgkamat> BadRocketsCO: nice!
:D
L22[00:38:20] <jgkamat> are those the new
parts, or is that modded
L23[00:40:58] <Althego> must be
modded
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L25[00:45:49] <Rokker> jgkamat:
BadRocketsCO plays RO, so my money is on it being RO.
L26[00:46:08] <Rokker> and the main RO
required/recommended mods
L27[00:46:20] <Rokker> BadRocketsCO: nice
surveyor
L28[00:46:25] <BadRocketsCO> Yup, pretty
modded
L29[00:47:40] <Rokker> BadRocketsCO: now
land an apollo next to it
L30[00:48:03] <Rokker> BadRocketsCO: bring
some parts back to earth
L31[00:48:15] <Althego> hehe
L32[00:48:23] <Althego> cant be that hard,
it happened )
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L34[00:50:09] <BadRocketsCO> Rokker: that
should be relatively easy, actualy.
L35[00:50:39] <BadRocketsCO> Atlhough my
precision landing skills may be a bit rusty.
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L47[01:46:48] <oren> Hooray, all the crew
of my educational expedition have levelled up!
L48[01:49:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i really like
the "new" feature that crew can level up mid-flight
L49[01:51:12] <oren> Eddi|zuHause: I only
have that because of a mod I think
L50[01:51:18] <oren> I'm still on
1.2.2
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L53[01:58:39] <Gasher[work]> because of lab
on board?
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L55[02:03:25] <oren> Gasher[work]:
yeah
L56[02:03:40] <oren> also the duna window
isfinally almost here!
L59[02:03:54] <Gasher[work]> that's not
mod, that is lab's functionality
L60[02:04:16] <Gasher[work]> oh lol
L61[02:06:26] <oren> I built this thing a
while ago but I missed the duna window so they had to wiat for the
next one
L62[02:07:00] <oren> it's made out of the
components of the first kerbin space station
L63[02:07:37] <oren> and a propulsion unit
in front
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L69[02:35:57] <Eddi|zuHause> well, i do
remember having a mod that could level up crew before 1.3.0
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L71[02:38:53] <Lyneira> iirc the mobile lab
can do that now?
L72[02:39:11] <Gasher[work]> Lyneira, i
think it is in its description?
L73[02:40:16] <Lyneira> Should be
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L76[02:43:54] <Apexseals> is that supposed
to be a tug?
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L78[02:47:30] <Gasher[work]> tug and
barge
L79[02:48:38] <oren> this thing turns at
about a few arcseconds a second
L80[02:49:30] <oren> at least autostrut
makes it less wobbly than trains used to be
L81[02:52:24] <oren> and it's using
chemical engines so it only takes 3 minutes to exit, probably
L82[02:56:48] <oren> oooor maybe the rocket
module tears itself off the rest of the train
L83[02:56:57] <oren> *F9*
L84[02:57:06] <Gasher[work]> accelerate
gradually
L85[02:58:54] <oren> Gasher[work]: nah just
needed better configuration of autstruts
L86[02:59:30] <Gasher[work]> well tinkering
with struts is always a thing
L89[03:00:35] <oren> must be fun in that
science module surrounded by hot exhaust plasma
L90[03:00:45] <Gasher[work]> well what
would happen if you add trust slowly?
L93[03:00:57] <Gasher[work]> ah lol
L94[03:01:13] <Gasher[work]> i thought it
was an explosion but it's just normal engine work
L95[03:01:54] <Althego> hehe
L96[03:01:59] <Althego> longcat is
long
L99[03:03:27] <Mat2ch> lovely
L100[03:03:44] <Althego> scenic
L101[03:03:59] <Mat2ch> very SciFi
L104[03:11:58] <oren> fuel is almost half
empty after first burn. supid chemical engines! owell
L105[03:19:49] <oren> this should have
enough delta v to go land on duna, and hopefully that engine module
can come back to kerbin to fetch more equipment
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L109[03:29:12] <Mat2ch> oren: that's
normal. If you carry much fuel, you will burn much fuel to move
that fuel...
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L118[04:57:24] <bletch> If I have a
contract that I have to get to X location at 2k meters up... How do
I use the navball to orient myself If I can't see the navigation
marker on the navball?
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L121[05:01:04] <bletch> i mean, 20k meters
up lol
L122[05:02:04] <Deddly> bletch, is it on
Kerbin?
L123[05:02:13] <bletch> yes
L124[05:02:16] <kubi> something has
changed
L125[05:02:41] <kubi> the usual mining
spot for rare and exotic stuff is no more
L126[05:02:54] <kubi> but I can minde at
the KSC ...
L127[05:02:57] <kubi> mine
L128[05:03:08] <Deddly> bletch, OK. So
from the map view, you should be able to see where it is on the
globe. In that case you can see if you need to fly North, South,
East or West. Use the markers on the navball so aim in the
approximate direction
L129[05:03:42] <Deddly> bletch, When you
get closer, you'll start to see the marker starting to appear on
the navball
L130[05:04:07] <Deddly> kubi, I believe
ore concentration is different for each save
L131[05:04:31] <kubi> ore might be
L132[05:04:40] <kubi> but I'm no sure
about other minerals
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L134[05:07:30] <Deddly> Oh right, you're
using mods. No idea about that
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L138[05:16:50] <kakakakak> What's
happening with Take-Two and KSP mods? Does the new EULA means that
the rights of the modders are not reserved?
L139[05:19:04] <Epi> hopefully they don't
appear on besthesda creation club
L140[05:20:22] <Deddly> kakakakak,
hi
L142[05:21:43] <Deddly> kakakakak, their
legal team has been completely silent on that question,
unfortunately, but the general consensus is that a EULA applies
only to things physically hosted on their servers. Mods are hosted
elsewhere, so their rights are safe. EULA cannot break the law,
basically.
L143[05:22:38] <kakakakak> So it's not as
serious as the GTA-V situation then?
L144[05:22:54] <Deddly> kakakakak, not as
far as we know, no
L145[05:23:21] <Deddly> kakakakak, the
only official statement we have received is "we support
mods"
L146[05:24:50] <kakakakak> Hmm.. ok. And I
haven't seen any news of any Cease and Desists being filed unlike
the GTA-V mods. Thanks for the response either way.
L147[05:25:00] <Deddly> kakakakak, a EULA
or ToS cannot give anyone ownership of something linked to and
hosted elsewhere (as far as we can tell)
L148[05:25:24] <kakakakak> Although I did
make a backup back then when they acquired KSP... just in
case.
L149[05:25:39] <kakakakak> @Deddly That's
true.
L150[05:25:52] <Deddly> It seems to be a
general-purpose bit of text to prevent them getting sued in
unexpected ways for merely providing a forum
L151[05:26:40] <Deddly> kakakakak, you'll
notice that the link you provided there is actually talking about
the Terms of Service for the forum, not the game
L152[05:27:24] <kakakakak> That's correct.
guess I didn't read it properly
L153[05:27:49] <Deddly> kakakakak, is
specifically mentions "submissions to the company". In
other words, posts we make on the forum
L154[05:27:56] <Deddly> is/it
L155[05:28:48] <Deddly> If I upload a mod
to Spacedock or wherever, and then open up a forum thread about
that mod, I have submitted only the text in that thread
L156[05:29:40] <Deddly> Now if they
provided a mod-hosting service, I would be more concerned. But as
it is, I think we have little to worry about.
L157[05:29:44] <kakakakak> So in that case
they can still do their stuff on GitHub. That makes their reason
for going on hiatus a bit strange albeit understandable.
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L159[05:30:07] <kakakakak> Yeah you're
right. Thanks for the clarification
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L161[05:30:51] <Deddly> kakakakak, well,
to be fair, the EULA and the ToS are essentially a cut/paste from
elsewhere and not tailored to this community, so it's only to be
expected that there will be a lot of confusion.
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L163[05:31:59] <Deddly> Since nobody
official has said anything about it, I can understand that some
people are upset about the wording of certain sections.
L164[05:32:29] <Deddly> Oh, he's
gone
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L166[05:52:34] <Fluburtur> my grandma got
me somec heapo camera
L167[05:52:39] <Fluburtur> she got from
club jesus
L171[06:01:21] <Fluburtur> lmao
L172[06:01:46] <Althego> what are the
missing characters around harm?
L174[06:04:38] <Truga> cats are
liquid
L175[06:04:46] <Fluburtur> ye
L176[06:05:37] <AIwrk> Althego,
snow?
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L178[06:06:08] <Althego> what snow
L179[06:06:25] <Gasher[werk]> lol
L180[06:06:27] <Gasher[werk]> my bad
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L184[06:11:19] <sandbox> Althego,
Harmons
L185[06:11:40] <snow> what, where,
who?
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L192[06:56:42] <kmath> YouTube -
crapcorder test
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L194[07:07:36] <Mat2ch> That's
crappy.!
L195[07:09:29] <Fluburtur> yeah
L196[07:09:35] <Fluburtur> so I will use
it as a suicide cam
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L198[07:12:13] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L199[07:15:13] <Fluburtur> it does have a
analog videou output
L200[07:15:25] <Fluburtur> this is totally
outdated but I can use it
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L202[07:18:30] <Fluburtur> I can probably
hack some fpv transmitter in there
L203[07:18:40] <Fluburtur> it weights
nothign so I guess it is mostly empty
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L228[09:57:03] <RandomJeb> have you tried
opening a banana from the other end though?
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L230[09:58:39] <ve2dmn> I did. I have no
real good opinion on the topic
L231[09:59:53] <ve2dmn> now... if you ask
my opinion on the other subject on that xkcd...
L232[10:00:01] <ve2dmn> ...I have strong
opinions :D
L233[10:00:24] <RoboFreak> which other
end?
L234[10:00:31] <RoboFreak> which is one
end and which is the other?
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L237[10:01:33] <ve2dmn> Althego:
'yes'
L238[10:01:38] <Althego> hehe
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L241[10:10:44] <kmath> YouTube - Ratchet
Marble Lifting System - Marble Machine X #32
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L244[10:15:37] <sandbox> how many ends
does a banana have?
L245[10:16:07] <Althego> it depends on how
many you count. you can count the temporal ends too
L246[10:20:30] <Althego> hehe starts
playing a tune on the springs
L247[10:21:12] <ve2dmn> Clealy the end of
a banana is a punchline
L248[10:21:31] <Althego> as i said, itt
depends on how many you want
L249[10:22:21] <ve2dmn> We've gone
bananas!
L250[10:22:39] <Althego> bot not into
plaid
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L257[10:40:26] <ve2dmn> What are the 2
Kanji?
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L259[10:41:19] <ve2dmn> 'Ki' & 'Bi', I
know... but what does it mean?
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L261[10:41:26] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn: Ki
(no) bi
L262[10:41:29] <TheKosmonaut> Oh
L263[10:42:31] <Althego> wait, alcohol
consumption is an allowed topic?
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L265[10:43:03] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch I think
Martin actually has some problem
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L267[10:43:10] <Fluburtur> he can't not do
music with stuff
L268[10:43:15] <Mat2ch> hehe
L269[10:43:19] <Mat2ch> thought the same.
:D
L270[10:43:24] <Althego> 季 [き]: (n)
season; season word or phrase (in haiku); (P)
L271[10:43:25] <Mat2ch> also he's
overbuilding stuff ;)
L272[10:43:40] <Althego> 美 [び]: (n,n-suf)
beauty; (P) :: 美 [み]: (ateji) (pref) (1) beautiful
L273[10:43:43] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn:
sorry. Was alighting the train
L274[10:43:45] <Fluburtur> didn't think I
would hear a plexiglass and spring cover of RATM today
L275[10:43:55] <ve2dmn> Althego:
thanks
L276[10:43:55] <TheKosmonaut> Anyway,
season and the second is tree
L277[10:43:56] <Althego> i needed to find
the characters on the horrible webpage
L278[10:44:09] <APlayer> Althego: If you
show me who mentioned alcohol consumption in a way that makes you
think it is an allowed topic... ;-)
L279[10:44:16] <ve2dmn> I know what
の is
L280[10:44:30] <Fluburtur> tbh the
ratcheting lift is probably the most compact and efficient so
far
L281[10:44:38] <Althego> this is alcohol
intended for human consuption
L282[10:44:46] <Fluburtur> and plenty of
lego ones too
L283[10:45:10] <TheKosmonaut> Althego: nah
it's Gen. Grievous 's
L284[10:45:23] <TheKosmonaut> He isn't
human
L285[10:46:08] <Althego> ki(no) no (ta)bi
:)
L286[10:46:32] <Althego> good old
stuff
L287[10:46:39] <Fluburtur> it doesn't need
two pistons however, a single moving side is enough
L288[10:46:58] <Althego> peace tons
:)
L289[10:47:34] <ve2dmn> I still have
trouble discerning between 'biru' and 'bi-ru' in Japanese
L290[10:48:24] <ve2dmn> luckely one is
usually in Katakana while the other is not
L291[10:49:23] <TheKosmonaut> ve2dmn:
should tell taniwha that
L292[10:49:30] <TheKosmonaut> Mr Beer
Curry
L293[10:50:16] <ve2dmn> I miss Japanese
curry
L294[10:50:51] <Althego> hmm, 2 rockete
launches in an hour (6 hours from now)
L295[10:51:27] <APlayer> I always watch
rockete launches
L296[10:51:38] <Althego> just random
tyopo
L297[10:51:41] <Althego> see?
L298[10:52:04] <APlayer>
Understandableb
L300[10:52:22] <Althego> lol
L301[10:52:48] <Althego> why is it not
flying? but how did it get into the air then?
L302[10:52:49] <APlayer> Fluburtur: Looks
like your planes
L303[10:53:04] <Althego> must be working
on a lifting body basis
L304[10:53:05] <APlayer> No, j/k
L305[10:53:35] <APlayer> Seaguloon
L307[10:56:53] <schnobs> Regarding thrust
curves, is it exceptionally costly to have many data points?
L308[10:57:44] <Althego> nothing is costly
in ksp :)
L310[10:58:25] <APlayer> Not even
rocketes. :P
L311[10:59:23] <Althego> but why would you
want so many? they are automatically smoothed and
interpolated
L312[10:59:56] <ve2dmn> more data point ==
more science?
L313[11:00:06] <Althego> not in this
case
L314[11:00:18] <Althego> you cane come up
with a reasonabler approximation with relatively few points
L315[11:00:33] <Althego> anless it is a
really spiky function, which is not realistic for this
L316[11:00:44] <schnobs> I know about
smoothing and interpolation, and how fewer points could make
do.
L317[11:01:11] <Althego> i dont know how
unity handles them
L318[11:01:13] <schnobs> What I'd like to
know is, should I even bother?
L319[11:01:43] <Althego> but if it is not
completely messed up, this should only cause some minor memory
overhead
L320[11:03:18] <schnobs> Well, I'm not
going to spend an afternoon's work on 30kB. So that's
settled.
L321[11:03:30] <schnobs> Thanks.
L323[11:04:33] <Althego> heh
L324[11:04:50] <ve2dmn> Nintendo Labo is
'soon'... I'm very curious to try it, even I don't think I'll pay
that much for cardboard
L325[11:04:59] <Althego> and as tradition
goes, you didnt retract landing gear (not that you could)
L328[11:09:37] <kmath> YouTube - best
entrance
L329[11:12:05] <Althego> i expected some
grand entrance
L330[11:12:18] <Fluburtur> isn't it the
case
L331[11:12:20] <APlayer> schnobs: Could
just convert the data to a csv with a script, input it to any
plotter and then pick some points from places where they look
necessary?
L332[11:14:49] <schnobs> APlayer: this
being RO, I guess that the data as it is has been lifted from some
datasheet. Besides coming up with a plot that resembles it, I'd
have to provide a justification why "my" plot should be
used instead of the reality-based one.
L334[11:15:01] <kmath> YouTube - grade A
crash
L335[11:15:34] <schnobs> APlayer: If
there's no severe memory or CPU cost, I'd rather leave it as is and
turn my efforts elsewhere.
L336[11:15:43] <APlayer> schnobs: Because
it would work just as well, but be less clutter-y
L337[11:15:43] <Althego> because it is
simpler and close enough. good enough for simulation, not to
mention for a game
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L339[11:18:49] <schnobs> Althego: in RO,
"accurate" is a lot more important than "good
enough".
L340[11:19:07] <Althego> you do know this
doesnt really make it more accurate
L341[11:19:18] <Althego> in fact it may be
less accurate because of the curve interpolation
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L345[11:21:10] <Althego> if this curve is
reasonably smooth, what i think it is, it can be represented by a
lot less points
L346[11:21:23] <Althego> many points would
really matter in case of linear interpolation
L348[11:22:15] <kmath> YouTube - how to
rip off gears
L349[11:22:46] <Althego> traditionally
airplanes do not retract their landing gears on the first
flight
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L351[11:22:55] <Althego> i suspect you
need more struts :)
L352[11:23:46] <Fluburtur> I think it was
too back heavy
L353[11:24:13] <schnobs> Althego: As I
understand unity curves, they will go *through* every given point.
Giving it 100-200 data points leaves so little wiggle room that the
result closely resembles linear interpolation.
L354[11:24:42] <schnobs> (Didn't know
about Sarbian's mod though, will be interesting to viualize
it)
L355[11:26:04] <Althego> hah, systematic
classification of life ep 26
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L367[11:47:25] *
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L370[11:48:19] <kmath> UmbralRaptop: I'll
let scolar_visari know when I see them
L371[11:48:22] <McKaby``> It's my ISP, I
am on the phone, seems to be a very hard to pin don bug
L372[11:48:44] <UmbralRaptop> Ah.
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L378[12:02:27] <Althego> still batter than
poking with a category 5 hurricane
L379[12:04:14] <Althego> so maybe it is
not cigar shaped
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L382[12:19:29] <Fluburtur> I think I
messed up the esc programming of my heli
L383[12:19:36] <Fluburtur> the motor is
starting too fast
L384[12:20:21] <APlayer> That sounds
strangely familiar
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L390[12:25:50] <Fluburtur> actually I
could use the crapcorder as a prop and to record behind the scenes
of the movies we make with my cousins
L391[12:26:06] <Fluburtur> we usually used
a crappy camera to do that anyways
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L393[12:26:26] <GlassYuri> Fluburtur, so
in this case 'esc' means that it's trying to escape :P
L395[12:26:40] <kmath> YouTube - heli
sound
L396[12:30:55] <APlayer> ESC = Escape
Sequence Command
L397[12:33:48] <Eddi|zuHause> and here i
was thinking "Eurovision Song Contest"
L398[12:34:23] <Althego> i thought it was
working like a terminal and using escape sequences :)
L400[12:35:04] <Eddi|zuHause> oh that
brings back memories of playing in the dos prompt with ansi
codes
L401[12:35:17] <ve2dmn> #StuffRedditSays:
"Maybe science is looking in all the wrong places for dark
matter, turns out it's love holding the galaxies
together."
L402[12:35:46] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: i'm
not sure that is how it was intended :p
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L404[12:37:07] <Althego> it is called
grounding or earthing
L405[12:38:17] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L406[12:38:38] <Eddi|zuHause> i recognize
that joke with "earth" :p
L407[12:38:44] <Guest02104> i need Kerbal
Joint Reinforcement for KSP 1.4!!!!
L408[12:38:56] <APlayer> Althego: Sinking.
It's a sink for electrons.
L409[12:39:07] <Althego> hey, shouldnt
1.4.3 have happened this week?
L410[12:39:20] <APlayer> Guest02104: Have
you looked for it yet?
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L412[12:41:49] <Guest02104> yes, i don´t
find sorry i´m spanish,
L413[12:41:49] <Guest02104> My english is
very poor
L415[12:45:02] <APlayer> If you need help,
feel free to ask here.
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L417[12:47:42] <Guest02104> thank you
thank you very much
L418[12:48:09] <Guest02104> Perfect
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L423[12:53:01] <Guest02104> APlayer thank
you.
L424[12:53:17] <APlayer> Guest02104: Does
it work?
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L426[12:54:19] <APlayer> Alright
then
L427[12:54:22] <MagnetoRaptor>
>_<
L428[12:56:11] <Fluburtur> apparently I
can use the crapcorder as a webcam with the usb cable
L429[12:56:17] <Fluburtur> wonder how much
that doesn't work
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L432[12:57:15] <Guest01991> I'm going to
try now
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L435[13:03:02] <Guest01991> it works
perfectly
L436[13:03:25] <Guest01991> thank you
APlayer
L437[13:03:46] <APlayer> Glad it does.
You're welcome! :-)
L438[13:05:35] <Guest01991> goodbye, I'll
play until the PC burns
L439[13:06:28] <ve2dmn> ... see you in
1600+h
L440[13:06:42] <Guest01991>
jajajajajaja
L441[13:06:58] <ve2dmn> I have 1700h in
KSP :D
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L453[13:43:45] <Deddly> Woohoo, only 80 km
to the KSC after my test voyage. Boat to the Antarctic and back
again without refuelling. I think I'll make it with a comfortable
margin
L454[13:44:01] <oren> Deddly: boat?
L455[13:44:14] <Deddly> oren, yup
L456[13:44:20] <oren> nice
L457[13:44:23] <Deddly> oren, jet-powered
boat
L458[13:45:26] <Deddly> This was just a
range test, really. Now I know it works I can use it to transport
base components
L459[13:45:46] <Deddly> It's not a fast
method, though...
L460[13:46:03] <Deddly> This mission has
taken a total of 9 hours 20 minutes of real time
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L462[13:46:34] <Fluburtur> Deddly complete
my challenge now
L463[13:46:45] <Deddly> Fluburtur, not
nearly enough range
L466[13:47:13] <Deddly> I will have to
make a considerably larger craft for that
L467[13:47:38] <Deddly> Nice picture
there, Althego
L468[13:47:43] <Althego> not mine
L469[13:48:02] <Deddly> Looks like an
inflatable module in the middle there
L470[13:48:09] <Deddly> Like a
Bigelow
L471[13:48:20] <oren> Deddly: I think it's
a fuel tank
L472[13:48:23] <Althego> somewhat
polygonal
L473[13:48:25] <Deddly> Ah
L474[13:48:37] <Althego> if only ksp had
this kind of graphics
L475[13:48:57] <Althego> for one i really
miss the realistic eclipse lighting
L476[13:49:09] <Deddly> At least it CAN
have those graphics if modded
L477[13:49:28] <Deddly> I personally enjoy
the cartoon style
L478[13:49:41] <Deddly> Not that I would
object to realistic visual
L479[13:49:42] <Deddly> s
L480[13:50:13] <oren> Deddly: my craft
don't tend to be very realistic anywya
L483[13:51:44] <Deddly> Yeah
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L485[13:52:49] <oren> for starters, I've
never seen a real space program propose the sort of puller designs
I often build
L486[13:53:07] <Althego> because they dont
help at all
L487[13:53:27] <Althego> and probably not
a good idea to bath in your own exhaust
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L492[13:55:09] <oren> Althego: and real
docking ports probably can't sustain long periods of
stretching
L493[13:55:13] <Althego> cubic feet
lol
L494[13:55:47] <Draconiator> Soi I bought
this new Aloe Vera juice drink with pulp in it...It's REALLY
good...bit it kinda feels like you're drinking a jellyfish.
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L496[13:56:38] <Deddly> I've tried
that
L497[13:56:39] <Althego> jellyfish are
mostly water
L498[13:56:59] <oren> And nobody in real
life would ever relocate the ISS to mars orbit for use as a martian
space station
L500[13:57:49] <Deddly> Fluburtur, have
you calculated how many km that challenge is?
L501[13:57:56] <Fluburtur> no
L502[13:58:04] <Fluburtur> probably over
10k
L503[13:58:19] <Fluburtur> my sub was nice
but needed to refuel often
L504[13:58:20] <oren> What
challenge?
L505[13:58:24] <Deddly> I'd be very
interested in an estimation
L506[13:58:33] <Fluburtur> the submarine
one
L507[13:58:57] <Deddly> oren, imagine the
longest sea route to explore Kerbin...
L508[13:59:30] <Fluburtur> mine is just
the casual coast following with occasional deep sea sailing
L509[14:00:05] <Deddly> Land ho!
L510[14:00:41] <oren> hmm I did have the
idea of doing a river cruise once, on the long river
L511[14:01:06] <ve2dmn> I think my next
rocket design will try the middle ground between puller and
pusher... like planes: engines on wings
L512[14:02:45] <oren> on the west
continent north of the desert there's a really long river like the
danube or something
L513[14:03:05] <Deddly> It's a shame the
water doesn't flow
L514[14:03:52] <oren> even passes between
two mountain ranges like the danube
L515[14:03:56] <Deddly> Yeah, I made it
all the way back with 8400 units of fuel remaining
L516[14:03:57] <ve2dmn> oren: Danube -
Sandstorm
L517[14:04:01] <Deddly> Woo!
L518[14:05:23] <oren> there's also the
large inland sea on the east continent, which has a fjord in
it
L520[14:07:48] <oren> I should come up
with a better map of kerbin
L521[14:08:34] <oren> the maps on the wiki
aren't great
L522[14:09:06] <MagnetoRaptor> We'll
gladly accept better ones.
L523[14:09:57] <Deddly> I'm just sad the
ice shelves are solid all the way to the ocean floor, so you can't
dive under them
L524[14:10:01] <Althego> engines in the
middle, so you want to build skylon. which is al ogical choice,
that is why it was designed that way (com movement vs aero)
L525[14:10:27] <ve2dmn> Deddly: you need a
make a mod then!
L526[14:10:59] <Althego> yes you can see
in the list that how many spacex launches are there, and i felt
that it is about the same as the others combined
L527[14:11:32] <ve2dmn> Althego: One of my
other design was a puller with a 'detachable' smaller pusher that
could land and dock back
L528[14:11:42] <Althego> hehe payload
manufacturing is where the good money is he says
L529[14:12:02] <Althego> until elon
thinnks of that and revolutionizes that too
L530[14:13:18] <Althego> hehe muskwatch...
one guy has am ononoke hime t-short and the other one has a pickle
rick
L531[14:13:55] <ve2dmn> Althego: That was
a good movie
L532[14:15:13] <Deddly> Can I see your map
again, Fluburtur?
L533[14:15:45] <ve2dmn> Althego: Did you
ever see the documentary 'The kingdom of madness and dreams'?
L535[14:15:56] <Althego> probablu
not
L536[14:16:26] <Deddly> Fluburtur,
thanks
L537[14:16:26] <ve2dmn> It's about Ghibli.
TL;DR: cigarettes everywhere.
L538[14:16:43] <ve2dmn> I've only seen
Frenchmen smoke more
L539[14:17:06] <Althego> aha, you found
undereciver frenchmen :)
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L541[14:17:13] <Deddly> Fluburtur, the
idea was to stay within view of the shore, was it?
L542[14:17:31] <Fluburtur> nah just
submarine around kerbin
L543[14:17:42] <Fluburtur> it the area
under the desert you can't see any shore
L544[14:18:22] <Deddly> OK so an
approximate route, then
L545[14:18:41] <APlayer> Do you know this
moment when you coded 200 lines without bug-testing in between, and
while it compiles and you fix the syntax errors, you just pray it
works?
L546[14:18:47] <Deddly> Fluburtur, and the
bit far north - around that island. Not all the way to the ice
cap?
L547[14:19:02] <Fluburtur> idk do it like
you want
L548[14:19:09] <ve2dmn> Althego: I was
actually suprised at the smoking rates across Europe and Japan. I'm
used to much, much lower
L549[14:19:14] <Althego> wait, can you go
under thr ice?
L550[14:19:22] <Deddly> Althego, no
:(
L551[14:19:36] <Althego> hah, no nemo
adventures for us
L552[14:20:27] <Althego> where is point
nemo in kerbin?
L553[14:20:45] <oren> I't's imposiible to
go all the way around kerbin underwater
L554[14:21:08] <Deddly> Or on the water,
for that matter
L555[14:21:26] <Deddly> Unless you count
ice as water
L556[14:21:43] <oren> you have to do a
portage across part of the east continent
L557[14:22:05] <Deddly> I might actually
almost have the range on this thing for a circumnavigation
L558[14:22:22] <Deddly> But not at maximum
speed
L559[14:22:48] <Althego> ludicrous speed,
go!
L560[14:23:43] <Deddly> I just went KSC
southern ice cap -> KSC at full speed, with 10% fuel remaining
at the end of the voyage
L561[14:23:55] <Althego> watch the tess
launch for me, i can watch it in around 9.5 hours
L562[14:24:04] <Deddly> Speed varied
between 45-60 m/s depending on fuel level
L563[14:24:55] <oren> I guess you could
build some sort of ore-weighted rover to pick up your boat and
carry it from one side to the other and boat the enire rest of the
circumnavigation
L564[14:25:23] <Deddly> oren, or just keep
the wheels you use to get the boat to the sea in the first
place
L565[14:25:26] <ve2dmn> oren: put wheels
on boat. retract when in water
L566[14:25:50] <Althego> you need wheels
anyway because there is no spaceboad pier in ksc
L567[14:25:54] <Althego> *boat
L568[14:25:57] <Deddly> Almost every boat
in KSP is actually an amphibious vehicle
L569[14:26:01] <ConductorCat> :3
L570[14:26:15] <oren> there are two places
you can portage though. you can portage in the north or the
south
L571[14:26:17] <Althego> also good idea
for mining
L572[14:26:48] <Althego> this reminds me
of the first time i saw the cybran destroyers climb out of the
water :)
L573[14:27:24] <ve2dmn> Landboat
L574[14:27:59] <oren> southern portage is
less distace overland, but north one has less hills
L576[14:28:18] <oren> and results in a
shorter overall trip
L577[14:28:37] <Deddly> oren, the official
Elcano challenge required the northern route
L578[14:29:37] <Deddly> oren, the northern
route seems the shortest land distance to me, especially if you go
through the lakes
L579[14:29:56] <bees> APlayer: only
200?
L580[14:29:58] <Deddly> oren, and remember
the map projection makes it look longer than it is
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L582[14:30:20] <APlayer> bees: My
error-to-line ratio is rather poos
L583[14:30:24] <APlayer> poor*
L585[14:31:01] <oren> Deddly: oh
right
L586[14:31:11] <oren> map projection,
blast
L587[14:31:56] <ve2dmn> Kerbin is flat!
donot listen to the lies of the KSC!
L588[14:34:07] <ve2dmn> They just did a
clever trick where they mapped the heighmap onto a sphere!
L589[14:34:43] <Deddly> Hey! The EULA
doesn't allow you to reveal that!
L590[14:34:53] <Deddly> You're gonna get
sued!
L591[14:34:58] <ve2dmn> damn...
L592[14:35:14] <ve2dmn> ...forget I said
anything
L593[14:35:37] <Althego> can i get mary
sued? :)
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L597[14:44:43] <JCB> ..... anyone come
across a tourist contract where you have to make them pass out from
high-g's? o_O;
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L600[14:46:31] <Rokker> wat
L601[14:48:33] <ConductorCat> :3
L602[14:49:04] <JCB> Kerbal G
tolerances....
L603[14:49:15] <JCB> ok well according to
my settings, its set to 'standard' (1)
L604[14:52:49] <Deddly> JCB, I've never
had the contract, but I have heard of it, yes
L605[14:53:11] <Deddly> It was included as
a bit of a surprise when the possibility of passing out was first
added
L606[14:53:19] <JCB> first time.. then
again, I forgot I had g-tolerance setting turned on..
L607[14:53:51] <Gasher> tourist
contracts?
L608[14:53:54] <Deddly> It's a rare
contract, I believe
L609[14:53:57] <JCB> wondering what the
average level of gs was, just this stupid idea of killing the
kerbal just from too high g-force.
L610[14:54:16] <Gasher> "just"
lol
L611[14:54:55] <Deddly> JCB, as I recall,
pilots can withstand much higher G forces than scientists or
engineers. Tourists are the most frail
L612[14:55:49] <Deddly> JCB, you're not
killing the kerbal - you are giving it an extreme ride in which is
passes out
L613[14:55:55] <MagnetoRaptor> ^this is
correct
L614[14:56:12] <Deddly> it*
L615[14:56:39] <MagnetoRaptor> er, the
varying G-tolerance.
L616[14:56:49] <MagnetoRaptor> Not sure if
you can kill.
L617[14:57:09] <JCB> I kind of figured you
not killing them... why I said 'stupid idea'... mostly wondered if
it was even possible, short of slamming them into the ground
L618[14:57:30] <Deddly> Oh it's definitely
possible
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L620[14:57:47] <JCB> not exactly the type
to turn kerbals into 'fodder' as it were :P
L621[14:57:49] <Deddly> JCB AFAIK it's
only difficult if it's in space
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L625[14:58:41] <Deddly> Oh I misunderstood
the question. I meant the contract is possible
L626[14:58:50] <JCB> things with big
wings, you hit so much as the air the wrong way, boom. Yet, I can
pull something like 45+ gs in craft with little wings.. go
fig
L627[14:59:34] <JCB> just this idea of a
pod with many boosters waiting to launch a pair of tourists
up
L628[15:01:31] <JCB> oh wait... g
tolerance meter..
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L630[15:01:51] <APlayer> Not
boosters
L631[15:01:52] <JCB> welp... 18gs not
enough for jeb
L632[15:01:54] <APlayer> Over-G a
plane
L633[15:02:24] <APlayer> That is, speed up
to Mach 0.5 or so and then suddenly pitch up/down
L634[15:02:37] <oren> JCB: turn a plane
sideways at mach 7
L635[15:02:49] <APlayer> Well, that's
usually high quality fireworks
L636[15:03:08] <APlayer> I did the mistake
of accidentally hitting a while at Mach 4 with FAR enabled
L637[15:03:20] <APlayer> "A" as
in the A-key
L638[15:03:31] <JCB> I know how to pull
g's in a plane
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L640[15:03:49] <JCB> just those mega wings
tend to be a pain sometimes if not struted
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L642[15:04:14] <APlayer> It's easier than
boosters
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L644[15:04:23] <JCB> mind you, not usually
using them on super large supersonic planes...
L645[15:04:35] <oren> you can make a plane
fly really well once you've covered it in ramjets and struts
L646[15:06:02] <JCB> lol... forget flying
really well, I've had planes explode from over heating
L647[15:06:47] <oren> that reminds me I
should add some ramjets to my wingless ssto to see if it helps with
payload
L648[15:07:07] <JCB> I did somewhat
wingless SSTO plane thing.. 'Flapjack'
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L662[16:01:55] <APlayer> Yess! Gravity now
/does/ work for this drone. :D
L663[16:02:54] <KrazyKrl> Well. you should
make an attempt to make gravity work...
L664[16:02:56] <KrazyKrl> it's the
law.
L665[16:03:11] <APlayer> It's the vector
maths, more like
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L668[16:19:36] <KrazyKrl> Draconiator:
That's literally what real rockets are... just change the color of
the fuel tank.
L669[16:20:45] <KrazyKrl> Aww... the
Proton M that is being launched in ~51 minutes is a classified
defense satellite.
L670[16:21:05] <KrazyKrl> The Falcon 9
that is going up in 90 minutes will be streamed though...
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L672[16:40:27] <Fluburtur> be sure to send
the links
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L675[16:48:35] <GurrenLagannCWP> hii
L676[16:48:36] <Mod9000> Hello,
GurrenLagannCWP
L677[16:52:41] <Fluburtur> does the briz
upper stage really fail as often as it sounds?
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L679[16:57:30] <Fluburtur> any livestream
of the proton?
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L682[17:21:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> ...
L684[17:23:03] <kmath> YouTube - TESS
Mission
L685[17:23:40] <GurrenLagannCWP>
YAAAAAAAY
L686[17:23:45] <Fluburtur> nice
L687[17:24:29] <ve2dmn> My university has
an exoplanet group which are pretty excited about this :D
L688[17:25:07] <GurrenLagannCWP> 26
mins
L689[17:25:16] <GurrenLagannCWP>
HYPE
L692[17:27:00] <GurrenLagannCWP> 24
mins
L693[17:27:12] <GurrenLagannCWP>
hypeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L694[17:27:14] <Fluburtur> it's just a
rocket launch
L695[17:27:17] <Fluburtur> with a tiny
sat
L696[17:27:21] <Draconiator> TESSSSSSSSS
it's about time we get "Kepler 2" up there.
L697[17:27:28] <Rokker> proton launch
confirmed
L698[17:27:30] <Rokker> successful
L699[17:27:30] <Fluburtur> at least they
could have ordered a smaller fairing
L700[17:27:31] <GurrenLagannCWP> hype
level = OVER 9,000,000,000
L701[17:27:33] <Rokker>
unfortunately
L702[17:27:37] <Fluburtur> to get more
dv
L703[17:27:52] <Rokker> Fluburtur: they
dont need more dV tho...
L704[17:27:58] <Fluburtur> shhhhh
L705[17:28:09] <Draconiator> did they
retire Kepler?
L706[17:28:10] <Fluburtur> that big empty
fairing looks stupid
L707[17:28:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur: also
its tiny but its going far
L708[17:28:19] <Rokker> Fluburtur: no, u
do
L709[17:28:31] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Fluburtur, its a big one, the launch of TESS
L710[17:28:40] <Rokker> eh
L711[17:28:43] <GurrenLagannCWP> JWST >
TESS > Kepler
L712[17:28:44] <Rokker> not that big
L713[17:28:48] <Rokker> lolno
L714[17:28:55] <GurrenLagannCWP> yes
L715[17:28:57] <Rokker> no
L716[17:29:05] <Rokker>
Kepler>TESS
L717[17:29:13] <GurrenLagannCWP> TESS will
always be > Kepler
L718[17:29:23] <Rokker> np
L719[17:29:25] <Rokker> no
L720[17:29:33] <Rokker> tess is only
better at finding exoplanets
L721[17:29:45] <Rokker> because it was
designed for it while kepler wasnt
L722[17:29:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> SYSTEM
NOTICE: The NASA Exoplanet Archive will be unavailable on Thursday,
April 19 from 10:30am-12:30pm PDT.
L723[17:30:17] <GurrenLagannCWP> why this
needs to happen OVER 9000 times
L724[17:31:01] <GurrenLagannCWP> 20
mins
L725[17:31:09] <Rokker> how old are
you
L726[17:31:45] <KrazyKrl> yes of
ages.
L727[17:32:01] <GurrenLagannCWP> gtg
L728[17:32:05] <Fluburtur> uh I need to
design myself a small compressed air engine
L729[17:32:14] <Fluburtur> that runs on my
airbrush compressor
L730[17:32:35] <KrazyKrl> use your gaming
computer to print one.
L731[17:32:42] <Fluburtur> yeah that's the
plan
L732[17:32:47] <ve2dmn> it's
starting
L733[17:33:07] <Draconiator> My parents
are in Florida, around Tampa Bay. they might see this.
L734[17:33:09] <ve2dmn> They have the
logo+music going
L735[17:33:19] <Fluburtur> Draconiator
call them
L736[17:33:24] <Fluburtur> tell them to
look
L737[17:34:23] <Fluburtur> I also need to
make some mk3 nozzles and test them
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L740[17:35:26] <GurrenLagannTSS>
back
L741[17:35:32] <GurrenLagannTSS> LETS ALL
REACT
L742[17:35:53] *
KrazyKrl is not hypergolic
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L744[17:36:01] <GurrenLagannTSS> land
Falcon 9’s first stage on the “Of Course I Still Love You”
droneship
L745[17:36:07] *
GurrenLagannTSS laughs
L746[17:36:28] <GurrenLagannTSS> great
musk, your jokes are amazing
L747[17:36:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> i
mean
L748[17:36:36] <Draconiator> Dad says what
time is the launch
L749[17:36:38] <GurrenLagannTSS> “Of
Course I Still Love You” droneship
L750[17:36:41] <GurrenLagannTSS>
haha
L751[17:37:15] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannCWP:
I'm guessing you don't get the reference...
L752[17:37:17] <GurrenLagannTSS> 39147
people watching
L753[17:37:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> ve2dmn,
What reference
L754[17:38:05] <ve2dmn> see
L755[17:38:08] <ve2dmn> "'Just Read
the Instructions' and 'Of Course I Still Love You' are two of the
sentient, planet-sized Culture starships which first appear in
Banks' 'The Player of Games,'"
L756[17:38:19] <GurrenLagannTSS> oh
L757[17:39:03] <KrazyKrl> I sure hope one
of them will be named "Boaty McLandonmyface"
L758[17:39:14] <GurrenLagannTSS> om
L759[17:39:19] <GurrenLagannTSS> it
started
L760[17:39:22] <GurrenLagannTSS>
YAAAY
L761[17:39:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> 12
mins
L762[17:39:50] <Blaank> wew
L763[17:39:54] <Fluburtur> we can
read
L764[17:41:06] <ve2dmn> KrazyKrl: I had to
admit, I laughed really loud at that remark
L765[17:42:06] <Blaank> That's a good
name.
L766[17:42:25] <Draconiator> I LET THEM
KNOW, hopefully they'll be able to see it. Cape Canaveral is around
ESE from where they are.
L767[17:42:35] <GurrenLagannTSS> 9
mins
L768[17:42:38] <GurrenLagannTSS>
hype
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L770[17:43:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> just my
name was wrong
L771[17:44:03] <GurrenLagannCWP> 70.2k
people watching
L772[17:44:06] <GurrenLagannCWP>
great
L773[17:44:19] <GurrenLagannCWP> now we
know why chat is disabled
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L775[17:46:03] <Fluburtur> "ingesting
TESS" well I hope not
L776[17:46:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> 80k
L777[17:46:40] <GurrenLagannCWP> 5
mins
L778[17:46:42] <GurrenLagannCWP>
hype
L779[17:48:49] <Draconiator> What will my
parents be able to see from halfway across the state?
L780[17:49:05] <Fluburtur> contrail
probably
L781[17:49:17] <GurrenLagannCWP> no
L782[17:49:29] <Fluburtur> bright dot with
condensation behind it
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L784[17:49:31] <GurrenLagannTSS> watch on
yt
L785[17:49:36] <Fluburtur> not that bright
actually
L786[17:49:40] <Fluburtur> calm down
dude
L787[17:49:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> 2
MINS
L788[17:50:37] <GurrenLagannTSS> 1
min
L789[17:51:14] <Rokker> GurrenLagannTSS:
stop
L790[17:51:32] <GurrenLagannTSS> :(
L791[17:55:24] <Fluburtur> time for toasty
waffle iron
L792[17:55:35] <Draconiator> Well that
sucks balls...called them back and they said they didn't see
it.
L793[18:00:08] <Draconiator> Correction,
they DID see it, said it looks like an oddly shaped contrail.
L794[18:00:10] <Fluburtur> that landing
video feed was almost perfect
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L797[18:04:52] <Fluburtur> I think I will
go to bed now
L798[18:05:00] <Fluburtur> too bad they
didn't sink the boat
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L800[18:10:17] <Draconiator> 12.1 � 3.9 �
4.9 ft - TESS could fit in my pool, hehe
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L811[18:20:11] <ve2dmn> I was watching the
stream earlier and I was wondering what were the flash you could
see when the camera was filming the engine... sun reflection?
L812[18:22:41] <KrazyKrl> it was the
camera crew on a parallel trajectory snapping pictures for the
biweekly newsletter
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L835[20:46:36] <Draconiator> eeesh, the
world map sizes of games these days make Skyrim look tiny...
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L841[21:23:33] <Draconiator> Annnnnd I'm
not gonna make Eve orbit this time. getting up there is
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
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L860[22:08:08] <Draconiator> I failed to
make it ourt of EVE again, got to 42K up
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L865[22:44:43] <Eddi|zuHause> i never even
made it TO eve
L866[22:46:00] <Draconiator> i DID,
ONCE...BUT i'M USING hYPEREDIT TO TAKE ON THE
CHALLENGE...fAIL...FAIL...FAIL SO FAR.
L867[22:46:05] <Draconiator> oops
caps
L868[22:48:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i sent a
probe on an eve encounter last time i played, but then i hit a wall
of annoying side missions before that ever arrived, and i lost
interest again
L869[22:50:12] <Eddi|zuHause> ... and then
the game updates and i must start from scratch because it's not
going to be compatible
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