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L2[00:06:07] <oren> basically eveything is
landed at the farside crater
L3[00:07:16] <oren> it would probably
actually be more efficient to land things in a highland area
L4[00:07:47] <Draconiator> I'm here,
but am falling asleep...*yawn*
L5[00:09:03] <oren> oh wait, the highlands
don't have ore
L6[00:09:10] <Althego> i always wanted irc
while sleeping :)
L7[00:09:45] <Althego> tess in 17.5
hours
L10[00:15:09] <oren> varius stations,
rovers, and things needing refueling are visible from orbit
L11[00:17:18] <Althego> why the
heatshield?
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L13[00:18:04] <Hyst> Need to add this
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L15[00:19:20] <Althego> yes
L16[00:20:20] <oren> Althego: saves delta v
when bringing people back to kerbin low orbit
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L18[00:22:17] <Althego> but why is it open?
and you dont need that huge one for kerbin
L19[00:23:08] <oren> Althego: because this
one has been to kerbin like twice already
L22[00:23:32] <oren> most of my transmunar
cargo craft have that one
L23[00:26:12] <oren> Althego: also i's
the only heat shield that is reusable over and over
L24[00:27:28] <oren> well, except wings I
guess
L25[00:30:13] <Althego> another secret: you
dont need the heatshield from the mun at all
L26[00:34:08] <oren> well, that depends on
what parts you're using
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L28[00:40:42] <oren> current mission is
taking 9 kerbals to the mun surface, minmus, and then back to
kerbin
L29[00:42:03] <oren> unfortunately I
don't have any mining operation on minmus
L30[00:43:40] <oren> could get away with a
much smaller spacecraft
L31[00:47:46] <Hyst> hmm.
L32[00:51:48] <oren> well really all these
craft are massively overengineered
L33[00:52:54] <KrazyKrl> Unless you're
using RSO/RSS, ISRU is way overkill unless you're doing a
round trip beyond Jool.
L34[00:53:33] <oren> KrazyKrl: well in this
case, I am mostly isruing rocketparts.
L35[00:54:04] <oren> vast majority of my
spacecraft are built on the munar surface or in munar orbit
L36[00:55:17] <oren> since this is career,
I save ridiculous amounts of money
L37[00:58:48] <oren> I don't launch
anything except SSTO kerbal-haulers from kerbin
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L44[01:25:48] <cycloptivity> what mod is
adding the overlay?
L45[01:25:54] <cycloptivity> never seen it
but looks handy :)
L46[01:27:33] <oren> you mean the grid?
navhud
L47[01:32:00] <cycloptivity> nice one
thanks oren
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L49[01:53:56] <Olympic1> UmbralRaptor: This
time there is serious asshole busy on the wiki. He deleted some
major content, undoing his edits now.
L50[01:54:38] <TheKosmonaut> Olympic1:
language eh
L51[01:55:05] <Olympic1> sorry
L52[01:56:05] <Althego> wikifight
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L54[02:02:44] <TheKosmonaut> Wiki vandalism
has been around since the bronze age
L55[02:08:14] <BenjaminK> angone have links
to the custom GUI styles that KSP uses in the API?
L56[02:08:36] <BenjaminK> or names of the
classes?
L57[02:09:24] <Olympic1> I know, but if you
spend a lot of time updating it and someone else messes it up
L58[02:14:41] <Rolf> Olympic1: everyone may
be born with one, but some people get extra one later on :(
L59[02:15:25] <TheKosmonaut> Rolf: speak
for yourself
L60[02:15:40] <Rolf> wow so you are anus
free?
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L63[02:17:50] <TheKosmonaut> Rolf: just
like dear leader
L64[02:18:05] <Rolf> yay! lol
L65[02:18:33] <TheKosmonaut> I also score
-55 in golf
L66[02:19:06] <BadRocketsCo> Hullo
L67[02:19:08] <TheKosmonaut> And often
fight dragons on mountains
L68[02:19:11] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo:
hi
L69[02:19:22] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo:
the Estonian flag still flies at work
L70[02:19:28] <BadRocketsCo> Yaaay!
L71[02:19:29] <TheKosmonaut> And one
customer was Estonian
L72[02:19:36] <TheKosmonaut> He was quite
happy to see the flag
L73[02:20:04] <Althego> sidenote: there are
two kinds of animals, during gastrulation (when embryo is only few
cells) a whole forms, that can be later the mouth or the anus,
humans fall in the category which starts with an anus
L74[02:20:40] <Althego> at that
developmental stage this is the only feature on the embryo. most
people grow out of this phase :)
L75[02:21:56] <Rolf> yep! lol
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L78[02:27:05] <TheKosmonaut>
BadMobileRockets: badinternetco
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L85[02:52:27] <BadRocketsCo> School wifi
ftw...
L86[02:53:09] <BenjaminK> \o/
L87[02:53:19] <BenjaminK> My school'z
wifi is actually pretty good
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L91[02:57:48] <BadRocketsCo> Lucky you
:D
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L96[03:07:11] <kmath> <✔elonmusk>
This is gonna sound crazy, but …
L98[03:09:25] <Althego> inflatable
heatshield?
L99[03:09:26] <Rolf> he later says its
already retroburn to avoid being a satelette
L100[03:09:32] <Rolf> besides that no
detail
L101[03:09:51] <Rolf> im guessing it burns
on way down then it releases ballon to save expensive stuff
L102[03:10:07] <Althego> the question is,
do they try to demonstrate this with the tess?
L103[03:10:27] <Althego> the engine is the
expensive thing
L104[03:13:41] <Deddly> Hmm, that's
interesting.
L106[03:14:17] <Rolf> Althego: if it could
turn around and nose down to burn
L107[03:14:22] <Rolf> engines would be
fine
L108[03:14:32] <BadRocketsCo> I'm
guessing they will use something along the lines of a inflatable
air bag to soften the landing
L109[03:14:37] <Rolf> ow mean cat
L110[03:14:40] <Deddly> In a near vacuum,
it wouldn't take much gas to inflate a huge weather balloon,
and that would drastically increase drag in the upper
atmosphere
L111[03:14:41] <Althego> i think
thechnically it could turn around
L112[03:14:48] <BadRocketsCo> Not very
accurate landing though...
L113[03:14:51] <Althego> and the only
place to put heatshield is on the top anyway
L114[03:15:44] <BadRocketsCo> Using a
balloon at high altitude would mean that the upper stage could be
carried ANYWHERE with upper atmo winds
L115[03:15:57] <Deddly> What about if the
entire stage is put inside this balloon?
L116[03:16:40] <Deddly> The balloon and
the bouncy castle are one
L117[03:16:47] <Deddly> maybe
L118[03:16:57] <BadRocketsCo> Hmm.
That'd be interesting. But I doubt it.
L119[03:17:04] <Deddly> BadRocketsCo,
depends how big it is, surely.
L120[03:17:22] <Deddly> (Re your comment
above)
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L122[03:19:10] <BadRocketsCo> True. I
mean, It doesn't sound IMPOSSIBLE.
L123[03:19:18] <BadRocketsCo> so who
knows.
L124[03:19:23] <BadRocketsCo> Would be a
cool thing to pull off.
L125[03:19:53] <Althego> i think the
bouncy castle is a ship
L126[03:20:06] <Althego> similar to the
net catcher thing
L127[03:20:10] <Althego> mr whatever
L128[03:20:48] <BadRocketsCo> Yeah but how
would an accurate landing with a balloon would be made?
L129[03:21:09] <BadRocketsCo>
err...discard the complete grammatical nonsense in that
sentence...
L130[03:21:11] <Rolf> yeah they do
retroburn to control where but nowhere as accurate as lowers
is
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L132[03:21:30] <Hyst> friend's
playing in science mode and messaged me "how do I repair my
space center?"
L133[03:21:44] <BadRocketsCo> I wonder if
they could use something along the line of wings instead.
L134[03:21:51] <BadRocketsCo> Inflatable
wings...hmmm
L135[03:23:31] <BadRocketsCo> It'd be
cool to make the upper stage like a mini shuttle instead.
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L137[03:24:30] <BadRocketsCo> Could test
out ideas for the BFR on a smaller scale and stuff.
L138[03:24:42] <Althego> some things dont
scale well
L139[03:24:47] <Althego> like bouncy
landings
L140[03:24:53] <Althego> see mars
rovers
L141[03:25:14] <Althego> ok probably
landing on water is better in this case
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L144[03:44:45] <TheKosmonaut> Technically.
BFR is a smaller scale version of what he initially proposed.
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L146[03:49:31] <Althego> it is still the
big f rocket :)
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L149[03:56:52] <Deddly> Hmm. It's
been a long time since I built boats in KSP. I used to use wing
parts but of course that doesn't work anymore.
L150[03:57:17] <Deddly> The MkIII fuselage
seems to be really draggy
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L153[04:05:38] <TheKosmonaut> Deddly: I
wish ekranoplan were doable
L154[04:07:52] <Deddly> What's
that?
L155[04:10:01] <TheKosmonaut> Deddly: oh.
It was a cold-war era design. A hybrid boat plane thing
L157[04:11:02] <TheKosmonaut> Here's
an example.
L159[04:13:26] <Lyneira> Works on land
too
L160[04:22:06] <Deddly> Oh, ground
effet
L161[04:22:11] <Deddly> Yes, very
cool
L162[04:28:34] <Lyneira> Don't mind
the shiny custom engines in the screenshot, those perform exactly
the same as stock panthers
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L172[04:55:40] <Deddly> Am I calculating
this correctly? Fuel use is 2. Fuel capacity is 60,000. Should last
8.3 hours, correct?
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L174[05:00:58] <Deddly> ...and at 50 m/s I
can travel 1,440,000 metres in 8 hours, right?
L175[05:01:26] <Deddly> So... that's
enough to get me a third of the way around Kerbin
L176[05:02:31] <Truga> fuel use is
2/second?
L177[05:02:52] <Truga> yeah
L178[05:02:55] <Truga> sounds about
right
L179[05:03:24] <Truga> you could probably
get around cheaper by flying higher/faster?
L180[05:03:26] <Truga> more wing etc
L181[05:04:28] <Deddly> Flying higher
isn't really an option for a boat ;)
L182[05:04:48] <Truga> oh
L183[05:04:50] <Truga> rip
L184[05:05:00] <Deddly> I want to build a
boat that can get all the way around the planet without
refuelling
L185[05:05:00] <Truga> 50m/s is awfully
high for a boat :v
L186[05:05:45] <TheKosmonaut> Deddly: I
want to see pics of this boat
L187[05:06:07] <TheKosmonaut> I have been
meaning to make a boat/freighter that can be used to
"recover" SRBs
L188[05:06:21] <Deddly> At quarter thrust
I can go 25 m/s, so I can double the range by just going
slower
L189[05:06:25] <TheKosmonaut> Using KAS
for a sort of crane / winch
L190[05:06:35] <TheKosmonaut> Deddly: how
big is she
L191[05:06:37] <Deddly> TheKosmonaut,
It's just a skeleton at the moment for testing
L192[05:07:04] <Deddly> You know the
longest MkIII fuel tanks?
L193[05:07:25] <Deddly> It's about 4
of those in length
L194[05:10:41] <TheKosmonaut> Hmm
L195[05:17:53] <Deddly> Hmm. Forgot my
imgur login
L196[05:18:59] <TheKosmonaut> Deddly:
deddlydedd password: Hunter3
L197[05:19:48] <Deddly> Ah yeah, thx
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L201[05:21:04] <TheKosmonaut> Mmm
L202[05:21:14] <TheKosmonaut> Looks almost
catamaran like now
L203[05:22:29] <Truga> hehe
L204[05:22:31] <Truga> Hunter3 eh
L205[05:23:37] <Deddly> It's supposed
to be a catamaran
L206[05:24:28] <Deddly> I'm hoping to
give it a flat deck for vehicles to travel on.
L207[05:24:40] <Deddly> It's a
transporter
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L209[05:27:26] <Deddly> Hmm, it can carry
4 of those MkIII tanks
L210[05:27:54] <Deddly> And it can still
go 40 m/s
L211[05:28:55] <TheKosmonaut> ;wa 40 m/s
to kts
L212[05:28:56] <kmath> TheKosmonaut:
convert 40 m/s (meters per second) to knots: 77.75 knots
L213[05:29:46] <TheKosmonaut> Fast
boat
L214[05:31:37] <Deddly> 55 hours at 19
m/s. How far does that take me?
L215[05:31:47] <Deddly> 3.8 million
m?
L216[05:32:13] <Fluburtur> you can maybe
complete my challenge then
L217[05:32:20] <Eddi|zuHause> ;wa 55 hours
at 19m/s
L218[05:32:22] <kmath> Eddi|zuHause: 55
hours×19 m/s (meters per second): 3.762×10^6 meters
L219[05:32:36] <Deddly> If that's
correct, this will actually get around the equator of Kerbin, if
there were no land in the way
L220[05:32:51] <Deddly> Fluburtur, I think
your challenge is considerably longer than this
L221[05:32:55] <Truga> what's the
challenge?
L222[05:33:07] <Fluburtur> uh lemme
find
L223[05:33:19] <Deddly> Truga, follow the
coast all around the planet, basically. Thin
L224[05:33:26] <Deddly> Think Elcano
challenge on steroids
L226[05:33:40] <Truga> heh
L227[05:33:49] <Truga> does flying count?
:v
L228[05:33:52] <Fluburtur> no
L229[05:33:56] <Fluburtur> submarine or
boat
L230[05:33:58] <Truga> lame
L231[05:34:05] <Truga> ell
L232[05:34:07] <Truga> well
L233[05:34:11] <Truga> ekranoplan is
technically a boat..
L234[05:34:20] <Fluburtur> I clocked
1200km on submarine before I stopped
L235[05:34:30] <Fluburtur> but I know
where I stopped so I can start again
L236[05:35:06] <Eddi|zuHause> does the
game simulate ground effect?
L237[05:35:14] <Fluburtur> I think I might
still hold the record because who wants to drive a sub around for
12 hours
L238[05:35:18] <Fluburtur> nah
L239[05:35:20] <Truga> base game probably
doesn't
L240[05:35:24] <Truga> FAR might?
L241[05:35:49] <Fluburtur> my sub was nice
because going at 100kph and had 1 hour of fuel
L242[05:35:52] <Truga> doesn't look
like that does either
L243[05:36:04] <Eddi|zuHause> ekranoplan
doesn't offer any benefit over a seaplane if not
L244[05:36:06] <Fluburtur> so I had to
refuel every hour and 100 km
L245[05:36:13] <Fluburtur> made counting
the distance easy
L246[05:36:14] <Truga> i know
L247[05:37:00] <Eddi|zuHause> refuelling a
sub every hour kinda defeats the point? :p
L248[05:37:08] <Fluburtur> it wasn't
a big sub
L249[05:37:17] <Fluburtur> and it was fun
to drop refuel pods from a plane
L250[05:37:34] <Eddi|zuHause> how do you
actually build a sub? i never had anything that didn't
float
L251[05:37:40] <Truga> yeah FAR
doesn't have it
L252[05:37:44] <Fluburtur> lots of ore
tanks
L253[05:37:50] <Truga> too bad
L254[05:38:01] <Eddi|zuHause> i've
never reached ore tanks, actually
L256[05:40:14] <Fluburtur> it is still a
bit lighter than water and wants to float rear up
L257[05:40:28] <Fluburtur> but
hydrodynamic control works very well
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L260[06:23:45] <bees> monoprop is heavier,
i think
L261[06:28:15] <Mat2ch> it is.
L262[06:28:21] <Mat2ch> High dense fuel,
low ISP
L263[06:28:30] <Mat2ch> But on the other
hand: Easy to store
L264[06:28:41] <Althego> and simplre
engines
L265[06:28:50] <Althego> although not an
issue in ksp
L266[06:29:08] <Mat2ch> btw: Who plays
RSS/RO? Why do so many monoprop engines have only one ignition? I
thought having multiple ignitions with monoprop is easy?
L267[06:34:44] <Arcan> that's weird
because RCS thrusters run on monoprop
L268[06:34:58] <Arcan> and they ignite
dozens if not hundreds of times
L269[06:35:43] <Arcan> H202 or hydrazine
both decompose in contact with a catalyst
L270[06:36:43] <Truga> it's also a
question of whether the engine can ignite itself more than
once
L271[06:36:53] <Truga> most
can't
L272[06:39:34] <Arcan> Truga: there's
no real "ignition" in a monoprop engine, though
L273[06:42:09] <Truga> yeah really
it's a question of plumbing
L274[06:42:47] <Mat2ch> That's what
makes me wonder
L275[06:43:03] <Mat2ch> there are many
monoprop engines in RO, but only a few have more than 1
ignition.
L276[06:46:40] <Fluburtur> k time to make
another telescope adapter
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L279[07:21:02] <Fluburtur> I glued
together the wing of the bush plane just now and im not sure I
should put a spar
L280[07:21:20] <Fluburtur> it is fairly
large but I probably won't load it enough to break
L281[07:21:29] <Fluburtur> and even if I
do I can make new ones easily
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L284[07:34:52] <Eddi|zuHause> "it
probably won't break" is like a surefire way to provoke
that it actually does break :p
L285[07:35:09] <Fluburtur> I call that
"stress testing"
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L291[08:22:59] <Fluburtur> I tried the
adapter on my friend's newtonian telescope and it works just
finre
L292[08:23:19] <Fluburtur> not sure it
will be able to focus on stuff very far away however
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L313[09:32:07] <ve2dmn> What would happen
if we could take half of the Venus atmosphere and ship it to
Mars?
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L315[09:32:44] <GlassYuri> ve2dmn, before
the project even starts, massive budget overruns
L316[09:34:10] <ve2dmn> And probably more
boring flamethrowers...
L317[09:34:43] <ve2dmn> but I'm not
asking in the project sense. I'm curious if it would cool down
Venus enough and heat Mars enough
L318[09:35:07] <Truga> that's not how
any of that works
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L320[09:35:20] <ve2dmn> Which is why I
ask
L321[09:35:47] *
ve2dmn knows that he knows nothing
L323[09:45:00] <Hyst> are there any good
"Tourism for dummies" guides for this game? :p
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L325[09:50:24] <ve2dmn> Hyst: Stick with
subortial tourist contract, they are easier (IMHO)
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L328[09:50:43] <ve2dmn> Once you got the
hang of it, try Orbital contracts
L329[09:53:42] <Truga> i just avoid
them
L330[09:54:07] <ve2dmn> Truga: the
suborbital ones are like easy early money
L331[09:55:30] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: uh, Mars
low gravity can't hold atmosphere long in its place
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L333[09:56:32] <Mat2ch> we could try to
get parts of Venus onto Mars until there's enough gravity to
hold the atmosphere in place...
L334[09:56:56] <Mat2ch> also it would
solve the health problems we humans get in low gravity :D
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L336[09:58:04] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: turn Venus
atmosphere into solid, ship to Mars, profit?
L337[09:58:20] <Mat2ch> Could work.
:D
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L339[09:58:55] <ve2dmn> It would only take
100000 shipping container of a few millions Tons...
L340[09:59:05] <ve2dmn> ...or a really big
cannon
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L343[10:01:46] <Tank2333> o/
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L348[10:19:16] <bees> Mat2ch: isnt it not
the low gravity, but lack of magnetic field?
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L353[10:28:40] <Mat2ch> bees: I'm not
sure anymore. I could remember it incorrectly
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L355[10:30:33] <Althego> what is this
about?
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L357[10:30:37] <Althego> mars?
L358[10:31:03] <ve2dmn> Althego: What
would happen if we could take half of the Venus atmosphere and ship
it to Mars?
L359[10:31:23] <Althego> it would be
stripped after a few million years
L360[10:31:25] <ve2dmn> By whatever
means
L361[10:31:43] <UmbralRaptor> I think
that's way too little removed from Venus, and way too much
added to Mars. >_>
L362[10:31:45] <Althego> mostly because of
the solar wind blowing it away
L363[10:31:46] <ve2dmn> What would happen
to Venus?
L364[10:31:56] <Althego> it would remain
hot
L365[10:32:07] <VanDisaster> venus is a
teensy bigger than mars
L366[10:32:12] <Althego> and yes, half may
be too much for mars
L367[10:32:16] <ve2dmn> would it lose even
1% of the heat?
L368[10:32:36] <ve2dmn> wait...
that's not the right question
L369[10:32:54] <ve2dmn> would the surface
temperature change?
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L371[10:33:16] <Althego> maybe not
L372[10:33:23] <UmbralRaptor> I expect so,
but I can't give any numbers.
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L374[10:33:39] <UmbralRaptor> Something
something radiative forcing.
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L376[10:34:06] <Deddly> Greenhouse effect
scales with the amount of gas, doesn't it?
L377[10:34:17] <Althego> but if the carbon
dioxide atmosphere closed off some windows in thermal radiation,
half of it probably still keeps it closed
L378[10:34:24] <ve2dmn> What if you could
take 1% of the mass of venus and ship it to Mars?
L379[10:34:33] <Althego> negligible
L380[10:34:48] <SnoopJeDi> Deddly,
that's a little bit of a simplified model. The proper
description requires radiative transfer
L381[10:34:50] <Althego> that is maybe 10%
increase?
L382[10:34:51] <SnoopJeDi> (but yes)
L383[10:35:01] <VanDisaster> I'm
kinda more interested in how you'd move all that
atmosphere
L384[10:35:15] <SnoopJeDi> it's not
just "is there gas here" it's also about how
it's configured spatially
L385[10:35:23] <Deddly> SnoopJeDi, yeah,
oversimplified, but I mean... half the Venus atmosphere is surely
going to cause a greenhouse effect wherever you put it
L386[10:35:41] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: with
lots and lots and lots of imagination
L387[10:35:46] <SnoopJeDi> Deddly, saying
a thing is sure does not make it so, but it shouldn't be a
hard calculation to do
L388[10:36:03] <ve2dmn> I guess turn it
into a solid and ship the solid to Mars?
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L390[10:36:59] <Althego> shoot it to mars
:)
L391[10:37:01] <Deddly> ve2dmn, honestly,
if you just want to heat Mars up by glutting the atmosphere with
greenhouse gases, all you need to do is establish a human colony
and the rest will happen automatically...
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L393[10:37:15] <Althego> dry ice snowballs
to mars
L394[10:37:28] <SnoopJeDi> if you want to
heat up Mars, I like Sagan's idea: paint the poles black
L395[10:37:29] <ve2dmn> Deddly: I'm
curious because Mars is too cold and Venus too hot
L396[10:37:34] <UmbralRaptor> Sulfur
hexafluoride!
L397[10:37:37] <Fluburtur> isn't the
martian atmosphere mostly co2 already?
L398[10:37:51] <Deddly> ve2dmn, yup, and
you are correct that it is due to the atmosphere
L399[10:37:52] <Althego> yes
L400[10:37:57] <UmbralRaptor> Fluburtur:
~90%, yes
L401[10:38:00] <Althego> but it is very
rare
L402[10:38:11] <Althego> there are huge
deposits in the polar icecaps
L403[10:38:13] <SnoopJeDi> UmbralRaptor,
methane \o/
L404[10:38:17] <Althego> so you dont need
to move it from venus
L405[10:38:22] <ve2dmn> And Mars has no
magnetic feild, but Venus has...
L406[10:38:29] <Althego> methane is often
generated by life on earth
L407[10:38:37] <Althego> some bacteria may
be able to live there
L408[10:38:56] <BPlayer> Or you reduce all
that iron and release the oxygen
L409[10:38:57] <Althego> suposedly you
could make an artifical magnetic field in the lagrange point
L410[10:39:03] <Althego> that shields from
the sun
L411[10:39:07] <ve2dmn> so... why not take
10 millions years and try to terraform Venus
L412[10:39:18] <SnoopJeDi> ve2dmn, Mars
has a magnetic field, but not a very potent one
L413[10:39:20] <Althego> in 10 million
years humans die out
L414[10:39:25] <Althego> one way or
another
L415[10:39:31] <SnoopJeDi> which is AFAIK
an important factor in how the atmosphere bubbled away?
L416[10:39:59] <SnoopJeDi> maybe I'm
misremembering that, I'm not big on planetary geology beyond
looking at gorgeous HiRISE photos
L417[10:40:14] *
ve2dmn I know nothing, which is why I ask
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L419[10:40:49] <UmbralRaptor> Every person
who doesn't include caveats about magnetic fields preventing
atmospheric sputtering should stare at Venus.
L420[10:40:50] <RoboFreak> after insight
we will know better
L421[10:40:55] <SnoopJeDi> IIRC
there's evidence of an ancient field but I'd have to poke
at it some more
L422[10:40:56] <RoboFreak> what was this
disconnect
L423[10:40:59] <VanDisaster> random
googling suggests it was much stronger solar winds than now that
did it
L424[10:41:15] <RoboFreak> mars has a
paradox
L425[10:41:21] <RoboFreak> why was it much
warmer in the past
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L427[10:41:26] <Fluburtur> spacex launch
alter today apparently
L428[10:41:28] <RoboFreak> iuf the sun was
cooler
L429[10:41:34] <Fluburtur> Althego I trust
you to send the link
L430[10:41:41] <RoboFreak> what
L431[10:41:42] <RoboFreak> no
L432[10:41:48] <RoboFreak> it will eb
around midnigh
L433[10:41:52] <SnoopJeDi> RoboFreak,
counterpoint: it's only a paradox if you come at it with the
anthropocentric mindset of a "static" Earth
L434[10:42:18] <RoboFreak> it is actually
one of the unresolved questions of mars geology
L435[10:42:41] <SnoopJeDi> speaking of
unresolved questions, did they ever work out a geologic process for
that methane? I can't recall
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L437[10:42:57] <RoboFreak> not yet
L438[10:43:06] <RoboFreak> they dont know
the trace methane source
L439[10:43:08] <SnoopJeDi> neat
L440[10:43:18] <RoboFreak> curiosity and
trace gas orbiter are working on it
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L442[10:43:49] <Althego> but anyway, flub,
look up the link for yourself
L443[10:44:07] <Fluburtur> is your
job
L444[10:44:19] <Fluburtur> actually I
might be out looking at stars then
L445[10:44:26] <Fluburtur> eh idk
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L447[10:44:40] <Fluburtur> will tell my
friend to watch then we go star watching
L448[10:44:50] <Althego> no link yet
L450[10:49:59] <Althego> but this is 1
year old already
L451[10:50:07] <Althego> i think this
mentionedthe faint young sun paradox
L452[10:50:22] <Althego> ah scott talks
abouttess
L454[10:50:28] <kmath> YouTube -
NASA's New Exoplanet Hunter is Using A Clever Orbit
L456[10:50:34] <kmath> YouTube - TESS
Mission
L457[10:51:02] <Mat2ch> Live in 6
hours
L459[10:51:26] <Mat2ch> I will be tired
tomorrow, because it'll be not to late for me, but late enough
to miss some sleep :D
L460[10:51:41] <Althego> hehe this must be
unlisted
L461[10:51:46] <Althego> it wasnt there on
the youtube page
L462[10:52:10] <ve2dmn> I'll be in
the Metro with no signal
L463[10:52:15] <Althego> hehe
L464[10:52:27] <Althego> in civilized
places metro has correct 4g reception :)
L465[10:52:32] <Mat2ch> ve2dmn: you
obviously don't plan ahead enough. :D
L466[10:52:43] <Mat2ch> Althego: or free
Wifi!
L467[10:52:52] <Althego> that is even
better
L468[10:53:03] <Mat2ch> Maybe not
L469[10:53:08] <Mat2ch> depends on the
quality of the wifi
L470[10:53:12] <VanDisaster> where I live
we're lucky to get vdsl
L471[10:53:16] <ve2dmn> Downtown is well
covered with 4g, but I live in the part not covered
L472[10:53:18] <Althego> scott went up to
mauna kea, so that idont have to
L473[10:53:22] <VanDisaster> and any
cellphone reception at all :p
L474[10:53:40] <VanDisaster> there's
a 30cm cube in one room I can use a cellphone in
L475[10:53:55] <VanDisaster> 4g laff
L476[10:53:58] <Mat2ch> VanDisaster: vdsl?
Lucky person. :P
L477[10:54:13] <VanDisaster> I at least
live in a town!
L478[10:54:16] <Mat2ch> the Telekom
screwed up here. On one side of the street they've got vdsl,
on the other we don't.
L479[10:54:40] <VanDisaster> different
local cabinets?
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L481[10:55:12] <VanDisaster> think we got
adsl here in 2006
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L483[10:55:19] <ve2dmn> I got overprice
crappy ADSL
L484[10:55:30] <bees> what it is,
2002?
L485[10:55:38] <Arcan> bees: might as well
be
L486[10:55:39] <Tank2333> 100mbit down
40mbit up \o/
L487[10:55:47] <Mat2ch> I have no idea. It
was planned to be different 10 years ago. And since they screwed it
up, nobody seems to care.
L488[10:55:53] <Mat2ch> Tank2333: I hate
you. Much. :D
L489[10:56:01] <VanDisaster> we had 3g
here outdoors for a while, that seems to have died too
L490[10:56:06] <Arcan> ~50/50 here
L491[10:56:15] <Arcan> wireless
directional microwave
L492[10:56:16] <Mat2ch> Yeah, they're
replacing 3g stations with 4g stations
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L494[10:56:28] <VanDisaster> the seem to
have replacd ours with an empty box then
L495[10:56:36] <ve2dmn> *sigh* Telecom is
the one thing I hate about this place
L496[10:56:56] <Mat2ch> UMTS will die out,
LTE will stay for a bit. They want to kill GSM, but there are so
many devices depending on it still
L497[10:58:10] <Tank2333> btw isnt 5g very
dependend on line of sight?
L498[10:58:11] <ve2dmn> There is only 1
company offereing 100/100 fibre, but they only do so in
Appartement/Condo complexs of 50 units or more
L499[10:58:17] <Althego> hehe, as far as i
know the old ss7 protocol is a burden for providers, but they have
to keep it
L500[10:58:20] <Tank2333> or doesnt it use
a higher bandwidth
L501[10:59:09] <VanDisaster> there's
actually fttc here, they just don't want the hassle of redoing
everyone's home installs...
L502[10:59:17] <ve2dmn> I'm stuck
with 20/20
L503[10:59:29] <Althego> 20/20 vision
:)
L504[10:59:35] <Tank2333> :)
L505[10:59:50] <Tank2333> i had 16/1
before switching to Vdsl
L506[10:59:56] <Arcan> ve2dmn: at least
yours doesn't vary wildly depending on time of day and weather
conditions
L507[10:59:59] <ve2dmn> VanDisaster: Bell
Canada told everyone we would get FTTH... then they redefined the
'H' as 'Hub' a few months later
L508[10:59:59] <VanDisaster> 40/10,
fastest they offer :p
L509[11:00:01] <Althego> i am on fiber
optics
L510[11:00:05] <VanDisaster> heh
L511[11:00:10] <Arcan> (to be fair,
weather doesn't affect ours that badly)
L512[11:00:11] <Althego> not too big
bandwidth though
L513[11:00:20] <VanDisaster> I hae heared
a lot about canadian telcoms over the years
L514[11:00:45] <Tank2333> ve2dmn lol
L515[11:00:55] <ve2dmn> I wish I was
kiding
L516[11:02:53] <Tank2333> where i live
almost all isp are sharing the same infrastructure from the old
state telecom company so we have like 4-6 competitors around where
i live
L517[11:03:15] <VanDisaster> sounds like
"somewhere in europe"
L518[11:03:26] <Tank2333> middle of
europe
L519[11:03:31] <VanDisaster> can't
wait for france's deregulation they just started on,
that's going to be a riot
L520[11:03:47] <Arcan> VanDisaster: bad
france
L521[11:03:54] *
Arcan slaps france's hands
L522[11:04:18] <Tank2333> why riots?
L523[11:04:23] <ve2dmn> Tank2333: We have
30 competitors, but 2 are know, and 28 are unknown
L524[11:04:46] <ve2dmn> basically, we have
Cable, Phone line or a resseler
L525[11:04:49] <Tank2333> 28 unkown?
what
L526[11:04:51] <VanDisaster> well the
french do like rioting :P but so far any european deregulation has
been a complete mess
L527[11:05:12] <Tank2333> well its the
same here
L528[11:05:27] <ve2dmn> I have the choice
between 28 'other' ISP, but they are just reselling
either the Cable or DSL service
L529[11:05:31] <VanDisaster> here too, we
just started in the 90s
L530[11:05:33] <Arcan> the US is
simultaneously adding more regulations and deregulating ISPs
L531[11:05:36] <Tank2333> since when does
the EU deregulate
L532[11:05:45] <Arcan> the end result
being "a pile of crap"
L533[11:06:17] <Tank2333> then i only have
2 choices too :)
L534[11:06:23] <VanDisaster> the eu is
demanding member states open up practically everything a socialist
state might centrally control, hence public transport, power,
utilities, telco, blah
L535[11:07:04] <VanDisaster> which is ok
for me coz my country can't manage anything bigger than a
pub
L536[11:07:33] <Tank2333> isnt
privitisation going on for some decades now?
L537[11:07:33] <Althego> hehe
L538[11:07:39] <ve2dmn> Tank2333: The
think the big issue is the average person has not heard about any
of these 'other' ISP...
L539[11:07:40] <Tank2333> lol
L540[11:07:56] <VanDisaster> yeah, but
it's been resisted by some places more than others
L541[11:08:20] <iamfishhead> VanDisaster:
I mean, I can honestly get behind anyone who runs a pub, even if it
is the government
L542[11:08:20] <Tank2333> i watched a
documantary aboutbritisch railway privitisation, genius work they
did :)
L543[11:08:37] <VanDisaster> yes, I lived
through that
L544[11:08:40] <ve2dmn> None of them
managed to get big enough to offer true competition, sadly
L545[11:08:49] <iamfishhead> VanDisaster:
TBH, maybe people would like the government more: "Oh, they do
a bang up job of running the pub down the street" ;)
L546[11:09:06] <iamfishhead> This just
seems funny to me
L547[11:09:09] <VanDisaster> street-level
devolution, I'll get behind that ;)
L548[11:09:16] <ve2dmn> You are making me
hungry with your pub stories
L549[11:09:42] <VanDisaster> your
political state is defined by the catchment area of the local
L550[11:10:41] <BPlayer> Speaking of pubs,
I think I met a person who knows all of them within a radius of a
few dozen km from here
L551[11:10:52] <Althego> hehe
L552[11:11:13] <Althego> there are several
online pub databases, so you dont hav to remember
L553[11:11:18] <Tank2333> lol
L554[11:11:36] <VanDisaster> place I grew
up in has a population of about 20k
L555[11:11:42] <VanDisaster> and Ithink
back then had 37 pubs
L556[11:11:54] <BPlayer> Also, is it just
me or is today TheKosmonaut's birthday? :-)
L557[11:12:29] <Tank2333> i saw a pup in
Stuttgart a few weeks ago,
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L559[11:13:03] <BPlayer> Stuttgart?
That's close to where I live. :-)
L560[11:13:29] <Althego> luckily i havent
been in germany for like 1.5 years
L561[11:13:37] <Tank2333> i went there for
a 2 day trip
L562[11:13:44] <Althego> that is quite
long considering the last 10 years
L563[11:14:34] <BPlayer> If you want beer,
go to German pubs. Because all the other ones are counterfeit.
:P
L564[11:14:56] <Tank2333> i visited with a
friend the Mercedes museeum wich was quiete interresting and pretty
big
L565[11:15:29] <Tank2333> i wish i would
like drinking beer :) im a bad german
L566[11:15:29] <Althego> is that where
there is one of those old tricicle cars?
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L568[11:15:51] <Tank2333> they have a
rebuild of the first ever car
L569[11:15:56] <Althego> that
L570[11:15:59] <Tank2333> or the benz
one
L571[11:16:20] <BPlayer> Uh, I see
something that I'd best describe as a homemade tricicle car
every morning
L572[11:16:27] <Tank2333>
"Engineering Explained" did a video on that
L573[11:16:29] <BPlayer> It's driving
by my bus stop while I am waiting
L574[11:17:18] <GlassYuri> ...maybe
it's just me but do any of you know that moment when you
describe an object and it seems to have two widths and no
length
L575[11:17:45] <GlassYuri> like it has two
sides for which 'width' is more appropriate than
'length'
L576[11:17:46] <BPlayer> Happens with
quadratic bases. :-)
L577[11:18:04] <Tank2333> they had some
old stuff there that was powered by those engines, like bismarcks
original private boat
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L579[11:18:37] <GlassYuri> BPlayer, well
in a square it's irrelevant, but I have two wildly different
widths here
L580[11:18:41] <Tank2333> in the early
1900s they put those engines in every thing
L582[11:19:18] <kmath> YouTube -
World's First Car!
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L585[11:20:41] <Tank2333> daimler i mean
not benz
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L588[11:21:59] <Tank2333> Althego yeah
that was filmed by that museum
L589[11:25:45] <Rokker> M
L590[11:25:47] <Rokker> U
L591[11:25:48] <Rokker> S
L592[11:25:49] <Rokker> E
L593[11:25:51] <Rokker> U
L594[11:25:53] <Rokker> M
L595[11:25:56] <Althego> argh
L596[11:26:01] <Althego> we shouldnt hav
done this
L597[11:26:14] <Rokker> Tank2333:
museum
L598[11:26:18] <Tank2333> shut up
rokker
L599[11:26:27] <Rokker> no
L600[11:26:29] <Althego> cant we have a
rokker mausoleum?
L601[11:26:44] <Tank2333> so than tell how
a real murican writes it
L602[11:26:50] <Tank2333> then?
L603[11:26:53] <Tank2333> than?
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L605[11:28:23] <Rokker> Tank2333: ?
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L607[11:28:44] <Tank2333> i thought i was
writing it wrong
L608[11:28:49] <Tank2333> nvm
L609[11:31:00] <Rokker> Tank2333: I was
just saying it cause it kings me
L610[11:31:03] <Rokker> pings
L611[11:31:08] <Tank2333> oh
L612[11:31:28] <Tank2333> good to
know
L613[11:31:34] <oren> Rokker: most of the
things that ping me are against this channel's rules
L614[11:31:54] <Tank2333> like?
L615[11:32:06] <oren> Tank2333: lol, nice
try
L616[11:32:14] <Tank2333> worth it
L617[11:32:31] <Rokker> Tank2333: M U S E
U M
L618[11:32:43] <Tank2333> i got it
L619[11:33:07] <Althego> mooseum
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L622[11:34:02] <Rokker> Althego: I kinda
wanna visit the mooseum. cows are one of my favorite animals
L623[11:34:02] <Tank2333> on another note,
did anyone watched ready player one?
L624[11:34:05] <Rokker> might be fun
L625[11:34:34] <Tank2333> arent mosse elk
like things?
L626[11:34:38] <Tank2333> moose
L627[11:34:49] <Arcan> Tank2333: given
that the movie is never as good as the book
L628[11:34:53] <Arcan> and the book was
not that great
L629[11:34:59] <Tank2333> lol
L630[11:35:01] <Arcan> i'm not sure i
want to
L631[11:35:22] <Arcan> i mean, sure, the
book was nerdy and interesting enough, i guess
L632[11:35:30] <oren> Tank2333: exept thye
wiegh tlike half a ton
L633[11:35:46] <Rokker> Tank2333: the
Mooseum isn't about mooses...
L634[11:35:49] <Rokker> It's about
cows
L635[11:35:53] <Rokker> moo
L636[11:35:56] <Rokker> moo-seum
L639[11:36:30] <oren> if you hit a moose
your car will be totally wrecked. so always look out for
moose
L640[11:36:31] <Tank2333> in german a
female moose is also a cow
L641[11:36:49] <Althego> also always
expect ninjas
L642[11:36:59] <Althego> (cant hurt you to
expect ninjas)
L643[11:37:08] <Tank2333> usaf?
L644[11:37:32] <Althego> i consistently
use aluminium, because that is its name :)
L645[11:37:44] <Tank2333> ^
L646[11:37:53] <oren> Althego:
alumium
L647[11:37:58] <Rokker> Tank2333: yes, A
female moose is called a cow
L648[11:38:03] <Rokker> but cows are also
called cows
L649[11:38:05] <Rokker> so
L650[11:38:12] <Althego> yes but for
americans it is aluminum
L651[11:38:12] <Rokker> Althego:
aluminum*
L652[11:38:26] <Althego> i will leave in
your american ignorance
L653[11:38:29] <oren> Rokker:
alumium
L654[11:38:32] <Althego> leave you
L655[11:38:57] <Rokker> oren: yes
L656[11:39:15] <Rokker> Althego: it was
called aluminum before it was called aluminium
L657[11:39:21] <Rokker> aluminum is the
older name
L658[11:39:26] <Rokker> the better
name
L659[11:39:53] <Tank2333> source?
L660[11:39:58] <Rokker> Tank2333:
USAF
L661[11:40:01] <oren> well I mean really
they should ditch the "ium" on alot of these
elements
L662[11:40:12] <Rokker> Tank2333: the
source is the guy who discovered it
L663[11:40:12] <oren> like why isn't
it just uran
L664[11:40:14] <Tank2333> i thought Fox n
Friends
L665[11:40:16] <Rokker> and named it
alumium
L666[11:40:20] <Rokker> and then
aluminum
L667[11:40:40] <Rokker> and then some
prick politician came along and said he thought it should be
aluminium
L668[11:40:41] <oren> in a lot of
languages it's not uranium just uran
L669[11:40:57] <Rokker> oren: because alum
is already a thing
L670[11:41:04] <Tank2333> we call it
Uran
L671[11:41:18] <Rokker> alum is literally
the thing aluminum is synthesized from, oren
L672[11:41:32] <oren> Rokker: oh.
L673[11:41:34] <Tank2333> not sure maybe
the guys inventing the names wanted to sound hip and use
latin
L674[11:41:40] <Althego> it is urán here,
so pretty much the same
L675[11:42:09] <Tank2333> Rokker i thought
it was Bauxit
L676[11:42:16] <Althego> hehe that
too
L678[11:42:49] <Rokker> Tank2333: well
originally that is. When aluminum was first theorized and
synthesized it was from Alum
L679[11:43:08] <Tank2333> i see
L680[11:43:18] <Tank2333> Alum is a
mineral i guess?
L681[11:44:04] <oren> well at minimum
then, "alumi"
L682[11:44:16] <Tank2333> nati
L683[11:45:18] <Rokker> Alum is a double
sulfate salt of aluminum
L684[11:45:50] <Tank2333> okay
L685[11:46:02] <Tank2333> Aluminium
L686[11:46:20] <Rokker> aluminum
L687[11:46:28] <Tank2333> Uranum
L688[11:46:31] <oren> alumi
L689[11:46:33] <Tank2333> Plutonum
L690[11:46:41] <Rokker> Tank2333:
Platinium
L691[11:46:43] <Tank2333> Einsteinum
L692[11:46:50] <oren> Rokker: sodum
L693[11:46:52] <Rokker> PLATINIUM
L694[11:47:05] <Tank2333> why cant alum
have its nium? thats racist
L695[11:47:07] <Rokker> LANTHANIUM
L696[11:47:15] <Tank2333> Lithum
L697[11:47:15] <Rokker> MOLYBDENIUM
L698[11:47:26] <Tank2333> Adamantium
L699[11:47:27] <Rokker> I CAN DO IT
TO
L700[11:47:30] <Rokker> TOO
L701[11:47:41] <Tank2333>
Unobtainium
L702[11:47:51] <Tank2333> thats the good
stuff
L703[11:48:31] <oren> natrum
L704[11:49:17] <oren> apparently
homeopaths call sodium natrum wat
L705[11:50:27] <Rokker> oren: Sodium
Na
L706[11:50:33] <Rokker> tis latin my
dude
L707[11:50:39] <Tank2333> Homeopaths are
full of S...
L708[11:52:04] <Rokker> Aurum, Natrum,
Ferrum, Argenti, etc
L709[11:52:21] <Tank2333> argenti is ac
ountry
L710[11:52:25] <Tank2333> country
L711[11:52:36] <Rokker> no, that's
argentina
L712[11:53:03] <Tank2333> proof it
L713[11:53:04] <Rokker> same origin
L714[11:53:24] <Althego> dont cry for
rokker, argentina
L715[11:53:30] <Rokker> I guess it's
Argentum
L716[11:53:47] <Rokker> Argenti would be
multiple silvers or some crap
L717[11:54:18] <Rokker> anyways
L718[11:54:32] <Rokker> I rest my case
that Aluminum is the more latin, more proper name
L719[11:54:48] <Rokker> science is Latin,
Latin is science, aluminum is science
L720[11:55:13] <Tank2333> you can believ
what you want
L721[11:55:26] <Tank2333> but Meters is
better than foot
L722[11:59:01] <Althego> hehe
L723[11:59:09] <Althego> dont do
that
L724[11:59:24] <Althego> you can start the
97th unit wars
L725[11:59:39] <Tank2333> i missed the
last 50 or so
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L727[12:00:39] <Rokker> Tank2333:
depends
L728[12:00:54] <Rokker> I use meters in
physics but I prefer feet for daily life
L729[12:01:06] <Tank2333> i know
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L732[12:14:18] <Draconiator>
Rokkernium?
L733[12:14:20] <TonyC> oh what's
up
L734[12:14:49] <Draconiator> That kinda
sounds like what rock stars are made of :P
L735[12:16:11] <Althego> lol
L736[12:16:18] <Althego> only from element
119 though
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L738[12:16:33] <Tank2333> not 182?
L739[12:16:34] <Althego> and as odd number
are harder, maybe more success with 120
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L742[12:26:00] <ve2dmn> That was one
videogame where they used element '128' as a
plot-device-driving the I-can-make-anything-machine
L743[12:26:00] <Guest15209> hello
L744[12:26:02] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest15209
L745[12:26:12] <Guest15209> what is
this?
L746[12:26:20] <ve2dmn> This is IRC
L747[12:26:48] <Guest15209> cool what do
we do here
L748[12:26:54] <ve2dmn> It's the
official channel for KSP
L749[12:27:23] <Guest15209> cool
L750[12:27:30] <ve2dmn> What we do?
Anything as long as you follow the rules
L751[12:28:01] <ve2dmn> But it's
mostly talking about spacey stuff
L752[12:28:17] <Guest15209> when is the
making history coming to console?
L753[12:28:19] <ve2dmn> And waiting for
the SpaceX launch in 5h
L754[12:29:00] <ve2dmn> No clue. I
don't play the Console edition
L755[12:29:20] <Guest15209> okay i was i
had a PC so i could use mods
L756[12:30:00] <ve2dmn> Mods are
great
L757[12:30:31] <ve2dmn> What do you play
on?
L758[12:30:39] <Guest15209> xbox one
s
L759[12:30:50] <Tank2333> kerbal without
mods? tyranny
L760[12:31:06] <ve2dmn> Guest15209:
what's your impression so far?
L761[12:31:17] <ve2dmn> landed on the Mun
yet?
L762[12:31:19] <Guest15209> on xbox or
this chat
L763[12:31:24] <Tank2333> both
L764[12:31:27] <Tank2333> :D
L765[12:31:42] <Althego> no, it is not
tyranny, it is freedom :)
L766[12:31:48] <Tank2333> lol
L767[12:31:59] <Guest15209> no sadly lol
and console its alot slower to build. and the chat so far is
confusing
L768[12:32:03] <Althego> every update you
mod users cry for weeks
L769[12:32:28] <Althego> there is some ksp
discord too, somewhere
L770[12:32:46] <Althego> but i think it is
at least the same amount of confusing
L771[12:33:38] <ve2dmn> I'm allowed
IRC at work. Discord would be a big 'nope'
L772[12:33:38] <Tank2333> some people are
more confusing than others
L773[12:33:47] *
Tank2333 looks at Rokker USAF
L774[12:33:57] <Althego> discord it https,
at least it is harder to outrigth filter it
L775[12:35:04] <ve2dmn> (Insert relevant
xkcd about IRC)
L777[12:35:24] <Guest15209> im going to go
but i will start using this more and more thanks for the warm
welcome guys
L778[12:35:37] <Tank2333> that was
fast
L779[12:35:45] <Tank2333> sure
L780[12:35:49] <Althego> no, the fastest
ones are below 5 seconds
L781[12:35:58] <Tank2333> O.O how
L782[12:36:09] <Althego> come in, say a
sentence, no reply in seconds, leave
L783[12:36:22] <Althego> this client made
the irc run under 5 seconds :)
L784[12:36:29] <Tank2333> Guest15209 also
very smart people in here who can help with a wide range of
problems too
L785[12:36:33] <Guest15209> well im in
school so
L786[12:36:43] <Tank2333> i like to ask
technical stuff in here
L787[12:36:48] <Guest15209> okay cool and
thanks i will need it
L789[12:36:54] <kmath> YouTube - TESS
Mission
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L791[12:37:07] <Althego> 5 hours, that is
after midnight
L792[12:37:20] <Althego> taking into
account my current state, i would rather not
L793[12:37:21] <Tank2333> Althego i meant
your xkcd response to ve2dmn
L794[12:39:52] <Althego> the rat racer
information service is always at your service, madam
L795[12:40:32] <Tank2333> ^^
L796[12:41:44] <ve2dmn> Althego: insert
nerd snipping xkcd
L797[12:42:13] <Althego> that never really
got me
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L799[12:42:40] <ve2dmn> I really tired to
solve that puzzle
L800[12:42:46] <ve2dmn> tried*
L801[12:43:09] <Althego> i looked at it
and it became apparent to be too hard
L802[12:44:00] <ve2dmn> I failed after a
few minutes
L803[12:45:09] <ve2dmn> but it did get my
brain going
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L805[12:46:37] <ve2dmn> It's my
curse
L808[12:48:40] <Althego> these wheels look
ok finally
L809[12:49:11] <Fluburtur> yeah with a
plane around them it looks ok
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L811[12:50:03] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: btw,
how much do you think that foam 'plane' from the other
day was?
L812[12:50:14] <Fluburtur> what
L813[12:50:27] <ve2dmn> wait
L814[12:50:43] <Fluburtur> btw will spacex
recover the booster today?
L815[12:50:48] <Fluburtur> or exeprimental
crap again
L818[12:51:16] <Fluburtur> oh that
L819[12:51:35] <Fluburtur> well those look
fun but they are usually more expensive than they should
L820[12:51:46] <Fluburtur> I do want to
get one of the larger ones and put a motor on it
L821[12:52:00] <ve2dmn> I want to see you
do that :D
L822[12:52:05] <Rokker> Tank2333:
USAF
L823[12:52:29] <Althego> the orbit is
already strange
L824[12:52:34] <Althego> they probably use
it up
L825[12:53:01] <Tank2333> they will drop
all older blocks i heard
L826[12:53:10] <Fluburtur> but I want one
with at least 40cm of wingspan
L827[12:53:13] <Althego> for flight
envelop expansion
L828[12:53:13] <Tank2333> so they only
have block 5 left
L829[12:53:29] <Althego> they have around
a dozen or so
L830[12:53:36] <Althego> and block 5 is
not flying yet
L831[12:53:37] <Rokker> Tank2333: yes. the
Block 4 launching today is the last manufactured 4
L832[12:53:37] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: I think
that one was the size of my forearm
L833[12:53:43] <Fluburtur> also I will try
to make a 3d printed mount for the wings of my plane
L834[12:53:44] <Althego> what
L835[12:53:47] <Rokker> Tank2333: it will
be used twice
L836[12:53:48] <Althego> where did the
others go
L837[12:53:49] <Fluburtur> to remove the
wing
L838[12:53:56] <Rokker> Althego: last
newly manufactured
L839[12:54:02] <Fluburtur> rc planes under
60cm are tiny
L840[12:54:07] <Rokker> Althego: they
still have the old ones that have flown
L841[12:54:07] <Althego> that makes
sense
L842[12:54:12] <Fluburtur> and have a lot
of torque even with small motors
L843[12:55:05] <Fluburtur> my mini p47
flew like crap
L844[12:56:14] <Rokker> Althego: actually
I might be wrong, not entirely sure. either I'm wrong or
Wikipedia is wrong which honestly could go either way
L845[12:56:19] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: it was
on sale for 6CAD btw
L846[12:56:37] <Fluburtur> yeah not too
bad
L847[12:56:48] <Rokker> Fluburtur: The
booster today will be recovered and used on a future CRS
L848[12:56:54] <Rokker> and then
expended
L849[12:57:05] <Fluburtur> nice ok
L850[12:57:21] <Fluburtur> will be
watching this one with a friend then go watch stars
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L852[12:58:07] <Rokker> Althego: an yeah
no I'm right
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L854[12:58:53] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ship
landing and then it will be reused for CRS-15 and will be probably
one of the last block 4 launches since spacex needs to start
launching 5s for the NASA crewed requiremrnt
L856[13:00:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
nukeyboi
L857[13:01:08] <Fluburtur> went nuke in a
tent
L858[13:01:27] <Fluburtur> left engine was
disconnected so stayed at idle
L859[13:01:41] <Draconiator> Jebediah:
"Before any rover gets the okay from us, they first need to be
thrown at least 500 meters into the air. If they survive this, they
get my stamp of approval!"
L860[13:02:12] <Rokker> Fluburtur: did it
at least end the war first?
L861[13:02:19] <Fluburtur> no
L862[13:02:22] <Draconiator> seriously
it's how I test rovers lol,
L863[13:02:28] <Fluburtur> this one was
actually used to drop a model x1
L864[13:02:40] <Althego> hehe rover crash
test
L865[13:02:43] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
X-1*
L866[13:02:51] <Fluburtur> listen
L867[13:02:55] <Fluburtur> I don't
care
L868[13:03:16] <Fluburtur> also the leduc
011 was better
L869[13:03:25] <Rokker> did anyone have a
dassalt raphael
L870[13:04:15] <Rokker> Fluburtur: Leduc
and better are contradictions
L871[13:05:14] <Fluburtur> shhh
L872[13:05:29] <Fluburtur> you are just
jealous of our superior french engineering
L874[13:09:57] <Fluburtur> what a nice
fast plane
L875[13:10:58] <Rokker> Fluburtur: 335
m/s
L876[13:11:01] <Rokker> so fast
L877[13:12:09] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
literally couldn't break the speed of sound because the
superior French engineer couldn't figure out how area rule
works
L878[13:12:42] <Fluburtur> our planes
werent flown by redneck cowboys at least
L879[13:13:07] <Rokker> you act like
that's beneficial
L880[13:13:52] <Fluburtur> french planes
are flown by skilled pilots
L881[13:13:57] *
ve2dmn walk away from the kindergarden
L882[13:14:01] <Fluburtur> who don't
use a broomstick to close the hatch
L883[13:14:23] <Rokker> Fluburtur: is that
why would won the war
L884[13:14:30] <Rokker> why you*
L885[13:16:45] <Rokker> rekt
L886[13:16:57] <Fluburtur> no I just had a
hard time comprehending what you wrote
L887[13:17:14] <Fluburtur> also im doing
useful stuff at the same time
L888[13:17:35] <Rokker> uh huh
L889[13:17:44] <Rokker> >frencb
L890[13:17:51] <Rokker> >being
useful
L891[13:17:53] <Rokker> pick one
L892[13:18:10] <Fluburtur> listen we can
do more than one thing at once
L893[13:18:38] <Rokker> other than
striking?
L894[13:19:22] <Fluburtur> I don't
know what you mean by that so I guess that yeah
L895[13:19:42] <Fluburtur> it's hard
to talk with you, I have to use the mindset of a 11 years old
L896[13:20:55] <Rokker> Fluburtur: how
long has France gone without a transportation strike?
L897[13:20:59] <Rokker> a few days?
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L899[13:21:12] <Fluburtur> 2 days every 5
days for 3 months I think
L900[13:21:19] <Althego> how long has usa
gone without bombing anything?
L901[13:21:23] <Fluburtur> 0
L902[13:21:59] <Rokker> Althego: why would
we not bomb something
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L904[13:22:03] <Rokker> bombing is
good
L905[13:22:11] <Fluburtur> act like humans
for once
L906[13:22:30] <Rokker> no u
L907[13:22:32] <Althego> i just came back
towards the end, but not going to read back
L908[13:22:56] <Rokker> Althego: he said
crappy French planes are better
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L910[13:23:20] <Althego> probably most
things are better than the f-35 :)
L911[13:23:32] <Rokker> I mean ur wrong,
but ok
L912[13:23:55] <BPlayer> I just wanted to
mention, that's at least the second time the discussion
swerves dangerously into the direction of politics. Please try not
to bring it up, it just makes life easier. ;-)
L913[13:25:54] <Rokker> BPlayer: I will
not rest until he admits that the X-1 was better than the
0.11
L914[13:26:10] <Fluburtur> even the me163
was better than the x1
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L916[13:27:27] <Fluburtur> anyways I have
stuff to do, was nice talking with you Rokker
L917[13:27:27] <Rokker> how
L918[13:27:30] <Rokker> dare you
L919[13:27:48] <Rokker> Fluburtur: no no
no, you can't say something like that and then walk away
L920[13:27:58] <Fluburtur> what if I
do
L921[13:28:05] <Rokker> Fluburtur: the
Me163 couldn't even go 3 flights without exploding
L922[13:29:37] *
BPlayer grabs his popcorn
L923[13:31:30] <Althego> it is getting
dark outside, probably even in france, so time for him to go
stargazing
L924[13:31:32] <Deddly> DC-10 was
better
L925[13:31:36] <Althego> that is what he
said previusly
L926[13:31:41] <Rokker> Deddly: ...
L927[13:31:45] <Rokker> better than
what
L928[13:32:05] <Fluburtur> nah it's
still too bright
L929[13:32:11] <Fluburtur> will go at like
midnight
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L931[13:32:43] <jeb> hellp
L932[13:32:47] <jeb> hello
L933[13:32:49] <Mod9000> Hello, jeb
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L935[13:33:07] <Deddly> DC-10 was better
than the Flyer
L936[13:33:15] <Deddly> Hi Jeb /
Guest32976
L937[13:33:35] <BPlayer> Let's call
them Jeb32976
L938[13:33:49] <Guest32976> does anyone
here know how to increase the volumetric cloud distance with the
Astronomers Visual Pack mod?
L939[13:34:34] <BPlayer> Uh, that's a
tough one. I found those EVE based graphics configs really hard to
edit
L940[13:35:06] <Althego> why jeb? maybe
george
L941[13:35:17] <Guest32976> the clouds pop
in and out at such short distances, not what i remember happening
with EVE
L942[13:35:27] <Althego> or jimmy
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L944[13:35:32] <BPlayer> If you go into
the EVE GUI and have some luck, you will find the correct option
and change it in-game.
L945[13:36:01] <BPlayer> It's a mess
to do, even with the GUI, though.
L946[13:36:05] <Deddly> I believe the
shortcut to access the options is <ALT> 0
L947[13:36:38] <Guest32976> thank you, ill
mess around with that
L948[13:37:47] <Deddly> Hope you find
it!
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L950[13:40:21] <Fluburtur> I wonder if uhu
por works with PLA
L951[13:40:25] <Fluburtur> or white glue
for that matter
L952[13:41:02] <Rokker> Deddly: I mean...
If I had to choose between seeing a DC-10 and the Wright Flyer,
I'd choose the Flyer, so which is really better?
L953[13:41:37] <Deddly> Rokker, I was
trolling, please ignore me ;)
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L955[13:42:07] <Rokker> Deddly: nope,
you've started this, now you must face the consequences
L956[13:42:16] <Deddly> lol
L957[13:42:30] <Deddly> OK, well the DC-10
had a longer service life, therefore it is better
L958[13:43:50] <BPlayer> Rokker:
Don't feed the trolls
L959[13:43:56] <Rokker> Deddly: I mean
that's not really fair, the only wright flyer kinda crashed
like a few hours after its first flight
L960[13:44:03] *
Rokker gives Deddly some bread
L961[13:44:20] <oren> the wright flyer had
a canard configuration so it's better
L962[13:44:49] <Deddly> Rokker, exactly.
The DC-10 could fly for hours WITHOUT crashing.
L963[13:45:45] <Rokker> Deddly: i... do
you really not know about this
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L965[13:46:21] <oren> canard
configuration, like S-37 berkut, therefore cooler
L966[13:46:38] <Deddly> I mean, sure -
there were some incidents, but overpopulation is a bigger issue,
so...
L967[13:47:17] *
Deddly LOVES comparing apples to grenades
L968[13:47:28] <Althego> lol
L969[13:47:45] <BPlayer> Do you also love
comparing Samsungs to Bombs?
L970[13:47:48] <oren> DC-10 has lame
convential tailplane layout
L971[13:47:56] <Althego> but those are the
same
L972[13:48:05] <BPlayer> LOL Althego
L973[13:48:08] <BPlayer> 1:0 for you
L974[13:48:12] <oren> high stability but
lame and unmaneuverable
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L976[13:48:39] <Deddly> S-7 was the best
incendiary device
L977[13:48:53] <Rokker> you mean the Note
7
L978[13:49:05] <Rokker> the S7 was pretty
good
L979[13:49:42] <Deddly> I only heard about
the S7 fires
L980[13:49:43] <Fluburtur> are we going to
forget that apple made bombs way before
L981[13:49:54] <Fluburtur> and that's
like the first thing they did first
L982[13:49:58] <Rokker> Deddly: um
what
L983[13:50:08] <Rokker> Deddly: the Note 7
was the one with battery issues
L984[13:50:17] <Althego> was? i still have
an s7? 2 years old
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L986[13:50:42] <Althego> maybe next year i
buy something but samsung has to give up the idiotic curved screen
idea for that
L987[13:51:01] *
Rokker stares at Althego through his S8+
L988[13:51:02] <Deddly> Rokker, fair
enough. Apparently I remembered wrongly.
L989[13:51:14] <Althego> no reason to buy
a phone each year?
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L992[13:51:33] <Rokker> Althego: to be
fair I only have it cause I got a cheap upgrade
L993[13:51:46] <Fluburtur> I kinda want a
phone with a full keyboard like the old blackberry ones
L994[13:51:55] <Fluburtur> but as a flip
phone too
L995[13:51:58] <Rokker> bring back the
palm pre
L996[13:51:58] <Deddly> OK the only curved
screen that I've seen that actually makes any sense is the new
iphone, in order to shrink the bezel
L997[13:51:59] <Althego> i dont buy phones
from providers, so i always pay the full prive
L998[13:52:34] <Deddly> Fluburtur, yeah I
miss physical keyboards. HTC had some nice ones
L999[13:52:50] <Rokker> honestly, the
Samsung curved screen isn't really even noticeable until u
break it and pay a million dollars to fix it
L1000[13:52:52] <Althego> béaclberry in
the old days :)
L1001[13:53:15] <Rokker> like the curved
screen doesn't matter at all
L1002[13:53:24] <Althego> it is
stupid
L1003[13:53:37] <Althego> but they
developed it, so they must use it :)
L1004[13:53:54] <Rokker> anyways
L1005[13:53:59] <Rokker> I want the palm
pre back
L1006[13:54:06] <Fluburtur> it's not
even that hard to make curved screens
L1007[13:54:12] <Fluburtur> but phones
are stupid
L1008[13:54:22] <Althego> you know crts
used to be cirved
L1009[13:54:29] <Althego> then engineers
worked hard to make them falt
L1010[13:54:36] <Althego> then these
idiots curved them again
L1012[13:54:41] <BPlayer> I have an S3
mini and really reluctant to change it. Despite the lacking OS
updates and stuff.
L1013[13:54:54] <Rokker> BRING IT
BACK
L1014[13:54:57] <Fluburtur> my s3 mini
died a month ago
L1015[13:54:58] <BPlayer> Can't be
bothered with new phones, they are ugly.
L1016[13:55:04] <Fluburtur> im pretty
sure the battery is done
L1017[13:55:09] <Fluburtur> but it was a
bit old
L1019[13:55:22] <Rokker> BPlayer: I like
my S8s look
L1020[13:55:25] <Fluburtur> I currently
have a cheapo wiko and it works just fine
L1021[13:55:30] <Deddly> The keyboard was
great. The phone was appalling
L1022[13:55:45] <BPlayer> Mine is slowly
dying too, probably it's the battery, yes. Got really unstable
and keeps crashing, when it boots back it says the battery is
empty.
L1023[13:55:58] <Rokker> BPlayer: replace
it
L1024[13:56:02] <Fluburtur> can you still
buy batteries for those?
L1025[13:56:14] <BPlayer> I did. A few
months ago.
L1026[13:56:22] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
through China all things are possible
L1027[13:56:26] <Fluburtur> and it is
already dead?
L1028[13:56:31] <BPlayer> Apparently,
yes
L1029[13:56:37] <Fluburtur> weird
L1030[13:56:46] <Rokker> sounds like
it's more than just battery
L1031[13:56:49] <Fluburtur> maybe the
phone decided to act up
L1032[13:57:06] <BPlayer> It wasn't
even a no name one, original from Samsung and worked fine for a few
months
L1033[13:57:43] <Rokker> mmmm pizza
L1034[13:58:14] <Rokker> oj
L1035[13:58:22] <Rokker> Fluburtur: did
you hear the sad news
L1036[13:58:29] <Fluburtur> which
ones
L1037[13:58:33] <Rokker> about the
stealthyboi
L1038[13:58:44] <BPlayer> I thought your
local pizza place was closing down
L1039[13:58:46] <Fluburtur> tell me
L1040[13:58:49] <Rokker> Fluburtur: an
F-22 was badly damaged yesterday
L1041[13:58:53] <Fluburtur> nice
L1042[13:59:00] <Fluburtur> too bad it
wasn't a f35 tho
L1043[13:59:01] <Rokker> pilot retracted
gear during his take off roll
L1044[13:59:02] <Fluburtur> or B2
L1045[13:59:08] <Rokker> HOW DARE
YOU
L1046[13:59:13] <Rokker> GET OUT OF MY
SIGHT
L1047[13:59:16] <Fluburtur> they are ugly
and useless
L1048[13:59:20] <Althego> you cant see
him
L1049[13:59:26] <Althego> already out of
your sight
L1050[13:59:33] <Althego> like 10000 km
away
L1051[14:00:00] <Rokker> screw you, the
B-2 is love
L1052[14:00:09] <Rokker> the B-2 is
life
L1053[14:00:12] <Althego> it has a built
in toilet
L1054[14:00:22] <Althego> thus far
superior to most military planes :)
L1055[14:00:31] <Fluburtur> I remember
the time the usaf bullied nasa to put a bunch of f22 in their
hangars because of some rain
L1056[14:00:42] <Fluburtur> our planes
don't fear some rain at least
L1057[14:00:45] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
um...
L1058[14:00:58] <Rokker> Fluburtur: that
was a hurricane and it's standard practice
L1059[14:01:05] <Fluburtur> weak
L1060[14:01:10] <Althego> f22 is
currently the best air superiority fighter
L1061[14:01:18] <Rokker> Fluburtur: have
you even had a tornado
L1062[14:01:30] <Fluburtur> no I live in
a country with decent weather
L1063[14:01:33] <Deddly> AHA! I have
arrived at the southern continent by boat.
L1064[14:01:48] <Deddly> 5 hours to get
there
L1065[14:01:54] <Althego> yes, no
tornados, hurricanes, monsoons here
L1066[14:02:10] <BPlayer> Rokker: We have
no tornadoes. But we have beer!
L1067[14:02:16] <Rokker> Deddly: I flew
from cape Canaveral to White sands with a prop plane in RO a few
weeks back
L1068[14:02:19] <BPlayer> Also,
occasional frog and/or fish rain.
L1069[14:02:27] <Althego> hehe
L1070[14:02:35] <Deddly> Rokker, how long
did it take?
L1071[14:02:47] <Althego> tornadoes are
about as useful as beer
L1072[14:02:52] <Fluburtur> you can get
3.7 rafales for the price of one f22
L1073[14:03:01] <Rokker> Deddly: 4 hours
of game time, prolly 6 hours of actual time
L1074[14:03:03] <Fluburtur> and they work
just as well if not better
L1075[14:03:15] <Althego> i wouldnt be so
sure of that
L1076[14:03:17] <Rokker> Fluburtur: and
you can lose 5 Rafael for every one f-22
L1077[14:03:21] <BPlayer> Fluburtur:
Nice! I'll take the 0.7 part. Will come in handy!
L1078[14:03:26] <Deddly> Nice
L1079[14:03:35] <Fluburtur> I guess that
would be extra for fuel and weaponry
L1080[14:03:53] <Rokker> Deddly: got like
5 biomes of research out of it
L1081[14:03:57] <Fluburtur> remember that
simulated combat between a rafale and f22 and the f22 was suepr
humiliated
L1082[14:04:06] <Althego> btw rokker what
do you think of the osprey? :)
L1083[14:04:14] <Fluburtur> and then the
guys were like "yeah but the f22 had external tanks" but
it actually didn't
L1084[14:04:16] <Rokker> Althego:
tiltyboi
L1085[14:04:31] <Althego> what does that
mean
L1086[14:04:44] <Deddly> LOL the sun is
so low that the shadow from my boat is cast on the side of the ice
shelf
L1087[14:04:50] <Fluburtur> murika
stopped making decent planes in the 70s
L1088[14:04:59] <Fluburtur> the f15 is a
fun one
L1089[14:05:35] <Fluburtur> not too bad
for a copy of the mig 25
L1090[14:05:47] <Rokker> Fluburtur: are
you sure you aren't thinking of Rafael and f-35
L1091[14:05:55] <Fluburtur> nah
L1092[14:06:02] <Rokker> also Rafael
isn't even a 5th gen fighter
L1093[14:06:10] <Rokker> so it's
automatically crap
L1094[14:06:20] <Althego> hehe
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L1097[14:07:11] <Fluburtur> and anyways
"stealth" fighters don't have anything on the rafale
because the visual aimer works at like 100km
L1098[14:07:21] <Fluburtur> also the
rafale looks nicer
L1099[14:07:22] <Althego> btw airplanes
are not that useful in current warfare
L1100[14:07:40] <Fluburtur> yeah who
needs stealth for bombing civilians in a 3rd world country
L1101[14:07:45] <Rokker> dogfighting?
what is this ww2?
L1102[14:07:45] <Althego> exactly
L1103[14:07:47] <Fluburtur> actually that
might be a bit pilitical, sorry
L1104[14:08:25] <BPlayer> Minimally
L1105[14:08:33] <Rokker>
"minimally"
L1106[14:08:40] <Arcan> i mean we done
some shitty stuff
L1107[14:08:58] <Arcan> i don't want
to get into whether the whole mess in the middle east is justified
or not because THAT is definitely political
L1108[14:09:04] <BPlayer> And that might
be minimally curse-y
L1109[14:09:11] <Rokker> Arcan: might
wanna watch the swearing
L1110[14:09:14] <Althego> looking at it
from a utilitarian standpoint, if the usa has so good weapons, why
didnt they win in the middle east?
L1111[14:09:24] <Arcan> Rokker:
eeeeep
L1112[14:09:26] <BPlayer> Uh, guys
L1113[14:09:32] <Rokker> Althego: why
didn't France win in algeria
L1114[14:09:42] *
Arcan bows
L1115[14:09:43] <Althego> i dont care
about france
L1116[14:09:47] *
BPlayer 's politics alarm goes off: BEEP BEEP
BEEP
L1117[14:09:50] <Arcan> my
apologies
L1118[14:09:55] <Rokker> Althego: why
didn't Germany win in anywhete
L1119[14:09:59] <Rokker> anywhere
L1120[14:10:04] <Althego> they did win at
first :)
L1121[14:10:36] <Rokker> Althego: winning
against France is like fighting a small child
L1123[14:10:45] <Deddly> Hmm. Getting a
craft up onto the ice shelf will be harder than I anticipated
L1124[14:10:52] <Rokker> you are gonna
win against the child, but then some adults are gonna kick ur crap
in
L1126[14:11:15] <Fluburtur> too bad there
was no sukhoi 35 this time
L1127[14:11:18] <Arcan> cool jet
L1128[14:11:19] <Arcan> what
L1129[14:11:25] <Arcan> s the big missile
underneath it
L1130[14:11:35] <Fluburtur> anti ship
stuff I think
L1131[14:11:43] <Deddly> You lot might
consider paying attention to BPlayer when he asks you to keep
things free of politics
L1132[14:12:07] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
really, you don't know
L1133[14:12:35] <Rokker> Arcan: it's
an Exocet since "Mr I love France look at me"
doesn't know
L1134[14:12:35] <Fluburtur> there was a
spt with all the armament of the rafale don't I don't
remember exactly
L1135[14:12:47] <Fluburtur> also the
turkish planes were quite nice
L1136[14:13:47] <Althego> if i had to
name the planes i like the best, it would be ither the x-15 or the
sr-71
L1137[14:14:03] <Rokker> Arcan: which is
honestly one of the few anti-ship missiles that has been
successfully used in war
L1139[14:14:08] <Rokker> by the
argentinians
L1140[14:14:12] <Rokker> against the
brits
L1141[14:14:13] <Arcan> oh that's
what the text on the side says
L1142[14:14:21] <Arcan> I thought it said
something 180A
L1143[14:14:24] <Althego> dc-3
L1144[14:14:24] <Arcan> it says
MBDA
L1145[14:15:03] <Rokker> Arcan: yeah,
that's the manufacturer
L1147[14:15:17] <Rokker> Althego:
no
L1148[14:15:28] <Althego> mockup
L1149[14:15:56] <Rokker> Althego:
it's a C-47
L1150[14:16:00] <Rokker> not a DC-3
L1151[14:16:04] <Fluburtur> rebranded
dc3
L1153[14:16:41] <Fluburtur> it's a
beech
L1155[14:17:29] <Deddly> DC-10 is
better
L1156[14:17:51] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
I'm sorry but how is the deadliest plane of ww2
overrated
L1157[14:17:59] <Rokker> well...
deadliest fighter
L1158[14:18:11] <Fluburtur> yak 9
better
L1159[14:18:15] <Rokker> no
L1160[14:18:19] <Fluburtur> yes
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L1163[14:18:50] <kmath> YouTube - TESS
Mission
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L1165[14:19:02] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ur
factually wrong
L1166[14:19:06] <Rokker> BPlayer:
no?
L1167[14:19:16] <Fluburtur> russian
planes are more nice
L1168[14:19:20] <BPlayer> I thought it
was 18:00 ET?
L1169[14:19:22] <Fluburtur> and usually
look nicer too
L1170[14:19:26] <Rokker> BPlayer: 3 hours
from now, like it's always been
L1171[14:19:34] <oren> how come modern
planes don't sit with their nose in the air
L1172[14:19:40] *
BPlayer has troubles with time conversion
L1173[14:19:51] <Rokker> oren: this hurts
the runway
L1174[14:20:15] <BPlayer> Right, I am
GTM+2
L1176[14:20:20] <BPlayer> I thought I was
GMT+1
L1177[14:20:27] <Fluburtur> it makes me
feel physically sick to look at it
L1178[14:20:31] <Rokker> oren:
there's a few reasons
L1179[14:20:51] <Rokker> Fluburtur: screw
you, at least we made our own planes during the war
L1180[14:20:55] <Deddly> BPlayer, ah,
good old daylight savings time
L1181[14:21:05] <Rokker> not just
building planes for the nazis
L1182[14:21:12] <BPlayer> Yes... Yes,
it's DST.
L1183[14:21:27] <BPlayer> Rokker?
L1186[14:22:29] <kmath> YouTube - Vampire
Rips up runway at Halfpenny Green
L1187[14:22:44] <Rokker> Deddly:
don't you dare insult my X-32
L1188[14:22:48] <Rokker> dont
L1190[14:23:10] <Fluburtur> oooo what is
that? excellent french plane form WWII
L1191[14:23:15] <Deddly> Seriously though
guys, discussing which planes are nicest is great and all that, but
please tone it down a little, OK?
L1192[14:23:40] <Rokker> Fluburtur: you
lost the air war just as badly as you lost the ground war
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L1194[14:23:50] *** Deddly sets mode: +m
L1195[14:23:58] <Deddly>
Seriously though guys, discussing which planes are
nicest is great and all that, but please tone it down a little,
OK?
L1196[14:24:22] *** Deddly sets mode: -m
L1197[14:25:21] <Althego> fgfd
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L1199[14:25:47] <Arcan> wait i was just
admiring things and then i went AFK what happened
L1200[14:25:50] <Althego> luckily hungary
has no natively developed airplane, so i cant be upset about
it
L1201[14:26:14] <Fluburtur> I think there
are a few actually
L1202[14:26:22] <Fluburtur> and the ones
I've seen are fairly nice
L1203[14:26:25] <Althego> not any that
are currently in service
L1204[14:26:27] <Fluburtur> or was it
another country
L1206[14:27:15] <Rokker> Althego: wrong,
you had like... 3
L1208[14:28:30] <Althego> at least
partially
L1210[14:28:58] <Rokker> ugh,
karman
L1211[14:29:14] <Fluburtur> karman makes
fun helis
L1212[14:29:24] <Althego> kármán rules
:)
L1213[14:29:25] <BPlayer> Kerman.
:P
L1214[14:29:25] <Fluburtur> flettner made
fun ones too I think
L1215[14:29:33] <Fluburtur> some of the
first intermeshing ones I think
L1216[14:29:43] <Rokker> karman makes
dumb lines
L1217[14:29:49] <Rokker> Fluburtur: ur
thinking of kaman
L1218[14:30:05] <BPlayer> The best KSP
pun, however, is still Gene Kerman. Can't beat that.
L1219[14:30:14] <Fluburtur> yeah similar
name
L1220[14:30:15] <Rokker> completely
different company, Fluburtur
L1222[14:31:32] <Rokker> Fluburtur: fun
fact, the Kaman H-43 huskies was built for both the USMC and USAF,
but while the USMC went with a silly rotary engine, the USAF went
with a beautifully superior turboshaft version
L1223[14:31:50] <Fluburtur> I think you
told me that the other day
L1224[14:32:06] <Fluburtur> but im most
interested in the intermeshing designs because I want to build a rc
one
L1225[14:33:57] <Althego> supposedly
those are stable
L1226[14:34:08] <Fluburtur> more stable
than regular yeah
L1227[14:34:14] <Fluburtur> but it's
not that hard
L1228[14:34:22] <Fluburtur> regular helis
are not stable at all
L1229[14:34:46] <Fluburtur> so I guess
it's not really stability in itself but how much it wants to
drift and how easy it is to keep it how you want
L1230[14:34:55] <Althego> actually from
control theory standpoint, no aircraft is stable
L1231[14:35:23] <BPlayer> Well, it's
not stable in the sense that if you turn off the engines, it falls
down
L1232[14:35:25] <Fluburtur> well you can
trim a plane for it to fly basically by itself
L1233[14:35:34] <Althego> they can also
drift sideways
L1234[14:35:49] <Tank2333> and
rotates
L1235[14:35:49] <Althego> nothing you do
is stable in it
L1236[14:35:55] <Deddly> Gyrocopters are
stable, aren't they?
L1237[14:35:55] <Fluburtur> helis need to
have the center of lift exactly on the center of mass so they drift
easily
L1238[14:36:01] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
probably, but I just told you again
L1239[14:36:06] <Fluburtur> Deddly they
act more like planes
L1241[14:36:36] <Tank2333> double
rotor... scary
L1242[14:36:43] <Rokker> BPlayer: you do
know helicopters can glide right?
L1243[14:36:46] <Deddly> Fluburtur, like
planes, only that they have no stall speed
L1244[14:36:49] <Fluburtur> no need for a
tail rotor then
L1245[14:37:07] <Fluburtur> well you need
to have speed otherwise the rotor won't spin
L1246[14:37:08] <Tank2333> oh right,
didnt thought of that
L1247[14:37:11] <Rokker> like the
helicopter can still fly to a somewhat safe landing if the engine
cuts
L1248[14:37:12] <Althego> the rotor disc
behaves as a wing to a certain extent
L1249[14:37:21] <Althego> also
autorotation
L1250[14:37:26] <Fluburtur> also I think
meshers can go faster because retreating blade stall wont'
slow it down
L1251[14:37:29] <Deddly> Fluburtur, you
don't need horizontal speed. Gyrocopters can land
vertically
L1252[14:37:39] <Althego> technically
that is true to coaxials too
L1253[14:37:42] <Fluburtur> yeah
L1254[14:37:49] <Althego> but because of
other constraints they are not really faster
L1255[14:37:49] <Fluburtur> any heli with
two main rotors really
L1256[14:38:02] <Althego> like because of
larger drag
L1257[14:38:06] <Fluburtur> well you just
need to keep the rotor moving
L1258[14:38:18] <Rokker> Tank2333: the
rotors on an interesting chopper are locked to each other, no risk
of them hitting each other or anything
L1259[14:38:28] <Rokker>
intermeshing*
L1260[14:38:33] <Tank2333> i know
L1261[14:38:51] <Tank2333> im a grown up
boy
L1262[14:39:04] <Rokker> no
L1263[14:39:06] *
UmbralRaptor apparently missed some silliness.
L1264[14:39:14] *
Arcan rawr
L1265[14:39:25] <Tank2333>
Heliraptors
L1266[14:39:41] <Fluburtur> speaking of
heli, I need to fix the tail of mine
L1267[14:39:49] <Fluburtur> the tail boom
is lose
L1268[14:40:06] <Fluburtur> heli flight
mechanism are extremely ineresting
L1269[14:40:13] <Althego> what, you have
a tail? :)
L1270[14:40:23] <UmbralRaptor> Tank2333:
plz no. I don't want to spend a month in the hanger being
repaired for every hour of flight.
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L1272[14:40:40] <Tank2333> thats only the
V-22
L1273[14:40:45] <Fluburtur> Althego yeah
im a plebs with a conventionnal helicopter
L1274[14:41:42] <Althego> hehe i have
seen the german mk41 helis. they have to keep 2 up in ready state,
therefore there are like 10 others under maintenance
L1275[14:42:20] <Rokker> UmbralRaptor:
all you missed was some Frenchy starting yet another battle he
can't win
L1276[14:42:29] *
Rokker squints at Fluburtur
L1277[14:42:34] <Rokker> <3
L1278[14:42:35] <Fluburtur> it isn't
hard to trigger you
L1279[14:42:39] <Fluburtur> heh
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L1281[14:43:08] <Fluburtur> did aplayer
just quit out of fear of another war?
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L1283[14:43:18] <BPlayer> And there I
disconnect at the most interesting moment
L1284[14:43:41] <Fluburtur> oh don't
worry
L1285[14:43:53] <Arcan> <-- BPlayer
has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
L1286[14:43:53] <Arcan> <Fluburtur>
did aplayer just quit out of fear of another war?
L1287[14:43:53] <Arcan> --> BPlayer
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L1288[14:43:53] <Arcan> --- ChanServ
gives channel operator status to BPlayer
L1289[14:44:32] *
BPlayer declares war to the Kingdom of Fluburtia
L1290[14:44:53] <Fluburtur> why
L1291[14:45:18] <BPlayer> To demonstrate
that I am not afraid of it. :P
L1292[14:45:31] <Fluburtur> well
L1293[14:45:39] <Fluburtur> anyways I
have better UAVs
L1294[14:45:47] <Fluburtur> or rather
ROAVs
L1295[14:46:15] <BPlayer> Just wait till
mine takes off in 4 days. :D
L1296[14:46:18] <Tank2333> FOR
FREEEEDOOM
L1297[14:46:38] <Fluburtur> my planes can
carry a payload of like 500g over a kilometer
L1298[14:46:39] <Fluburtur>
probably
L1299[14:46:53] <Rokker> BPlayer: just go
through Belgium, it's a guaranteed way to beat Fluburtur
L1300[14:46:55] *
Arcan nukes both before rolling in with mechanized infantry and
modern armor
L1301[14:47:35] <Arcan> (incidentally,
one of the few areas in which Civ VI is better than V is the
nukes)
L1302[14:47:49] <Rokker> I have guns so I
can just shoot y'alls planes down if you come after me
L1303[14:48:02] <BPlayer> Uh, Rokker, fun
is good and stuff, but I think that's getting somewhat
offensive by now
L1304[14:48:05] <Fluburtur> my planes are
foam
L1305[14:48:11] <Fluburtur> you bullets
won't damage them
L1306[14:48:20] <Fluburtur> unless you
get important stuff then yeah
L1307[14:48:38] <Rokker> BPlayer: pretty
sure shooting down invading planes is defensive
L1308[14:49:03] <BPlayer> I did not mean
that message, but whatever
L1309[14:49:06] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
incendiary rounds
L1310[14:49:24] <BPlayer> You may use
ICBMs instead
L1311[14:49:37] <BPlayer> Good enough
even if you miss the plane by a few km
L1312[14:49:47] <Fluburtur> will cause
even less damage
L1313[14:49:53] <Fluburtur> incendiary I
mean
L1314[14:49:57] <BPlayer> LOL
L1315[14:50:04] <Fluburtur> will melt the
foam a bit and make the hole cleaner
L1316[14:50:17] <Rokker> 1) no I can
because for some reason that's considered a war crime and an
illegal weapon and 2) kinda expensive to shoot down some RC
planes
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L1318[14:50:39] <Althego> laser
L1319[14:50:46] <Althego> set them on
fire in the air
L1320[14:50:47] <Fluburtur> throw stones
at it
L1321[14:50:59] <Fluburtur> potato gun
with gravel inside
L1322[14:51:04] <Rokker> Fluburtur: nah,
incendiary bullets would light your plane
L1323[14:51:04] <BPlayer> Shoot it with a
bow
L1324[14:51:05] <Althego> also throw the
stones on the controller guy who is a few hundred meters away
L1325[14:51:05] <Fluburtur> that's
your best bet really
L1326[14:51:18] <BPlayer> The arrow will
get stuck and knock the plane out of balance
L1327[14:51:29] <Althego> hehe
L1328[14:51:31] <Fluburtur> im not sure
my foam can burn actually
L1329[14:51:41] <Deddly> Foam burns very
nicely
L1330[14:51:42] <Althego> try it
L1331[14:51:45] <BPlayer> Fluburtur: With
enough dedication, it can
L1332[14:51:47] <Althego> we have to
know
L1333[14:51:49] <Fluburtur> and even then
if a buleltit hit it thenit wouldn't be in contact long
enoiugh
L1334[14:51:54] <Deddly> Assuming
it's polystyrene foam
L1335[14:51:57] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
unless it's metal foam, it can definitely burn
L1336[14:52:05] <Althego> even metals can
burn
L1337[14:52:07] <BPlayer> What about
mineral wool?
L1338[14:52:22] <Althego> probably
anything can burn if you try hard enough
L1339[14:52:30] <BPlayer> Well, not
quite
L1340[14:52:37] <Fluburtur> yeah can burn
but easily put out
L1341[14:52:41] <BPlayer> Salts will not
burn however hard you try
L1342[14:52:48] <Fluburtur> well I just
need to light fireworks on my plane and see
L1343[14:53:01] <Deddly> BPlayer, how
about if you throw the salt into the sun?
L1344[14:53:02] <Althego> not even in
foof?
L1345[14:53:05] <Rokker> Althego: unless
it's metal foam, a red tip bullet can burn it*
L1346[14:53:14] <BPlayer> Fluburtur:
Master plan! Attach a firework rocket to your plane and launch it
mid flight with some crazy ignition mechanism!
L1347[14:53:29] <Althego> he is building
his own solid rocket :)
L1348[14:53:40] <BPlayer> Deddly: Will
rather quickly melt and evaporate, but not burn
L1349[14:53:41] <Althego> how is entropy
these days?
L1350[14:53:44] <Fluburtur> that's
planned to ignite the engine of the rocket plane I will launch from
another plane
L1351[14:53:45] <Althego> any 7?
L1352[14:53:48] <Fluburtur> not yet
L1353[14:53:56] <Fluburtur> I need to
design and make the new nozzle
L1354[14:53:59] <Deddly> BPlayer, I mean,
wouldn't it simply add to the fusion reaction?
L1355[14:54:06] <SnoopJeDi> (burning
--> combustion --> chemical requirements that salts
don't meet)
L1356[14:54:11] <Deddly> BPlayer, I guess
that's technically not burning
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L1358[14:54:45] <SnoopJeDi> astrophysics
uses the word "burn" to describe hydrodynamic processes
but yea it means something very different than its colloquiual
meaning
L1359[14:54:52] <Fluburtur> but I mean I
could strap a lot of firecrackers that produce a lot of heat on my
plane and see
L1360[14:54:57] <BPlayer> Deddly: Salt,
in the "household salt" sense, is sodium and chloride.
Neither is small enough to fuse in sun conditions, AFAIK
L1361[14:55:04] <Fluburtur> like some of
the machinegun fireckraker grape
L1362[14:55:38] <BPlayer> I am using
"burn" in the sense of "oxidize". Also, in the
sense of rocket.
L1363[14:55:39] <Fluburtur> or launching
rockets from the plane into the plane
L1364[14:55:42] <oren> you can burn salt
in fluorine
L1365[14:55:59] <BPlayer> oren:
Well...
L1366[14:56:12] <BPlayer> That's
somewhat far fetched, but I guess it would work
L1367[14:56:22] <BPlayer> Touche
L1368[14:56:34] <SnoopJeDi> ITT lingual
ambiguity strikes again
L1369[14:56:46] <Rokker> Fluburtur: also
I'll point out that guns are highly effective against foam
planes
L1370[14:56:52] <Rokker> and this is a
proven fact
L1371[14:57:10] <oren> Rokker: well, if
you can aim really well
L1372[14:57:39] <BPlayer> Are foam planes
highly effective against guns, though?
L1373[14:58:01] <BPlayer> Or does that
depend on the payload?
L1374[14:58:12] <Tank2333>
foam>bullet
L1376[14:58:17] <kmath> YouTube - Machine
Guns vs 100MPH RC Target Planes - Great Sounds!
L1377[14:58:33] <Fluburtur> guess I need
to make some flak gun and try to shoot down a plane with it
L1378[14:58:51] <Tank2333> that sounds
slightly illegal
L1379[14:58:53] <Fluburtur> I think a
potato gun with a bunch of airsoft BBs inside would work well
L1380[14:59:15] <Rokker> Tank2333: what
does
L1381[14:59:20] <Fluburtur> in order to
damage a large area of the plane and possibly weaken it enough to
shoot the wing off
L1382[14:59:34] <Tank2333> building anit
aircraft weaponry
L1383[14:59:47] <Fluburtur> nah is for rc
planes
L1384[14:59:49] <Fluburtur> so rc
flak
L1385[15:00:19] <Rokker> Tank2333:
building, maybe, owning and using, not as much
L1386[15:00:44] <Tank2333> french law
though
L1387[15:00:54] <Fluburtur> it's
actually allowed to build and use potato guns in france
L1388[15:01:03] <Tank2333> oh
realy?
L1389[15:01:09] <Fluburtur> in a private
propriety where it's allowed that is
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L1391[15:01:21] <Tank2333> i think here
it is not
L1392[15:01:26] <Fluburtur> you
can't diffuse plans on the internet but really who needs plans
for that
L1393[15:01:39] <Tank2333> i see
L1394[15:01:41] <Fluburtur> so I can
build a potato gun and shoot it in my garden
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L1396[15:02:32] <Fluburtur> I wanted to
make one with a long barrel to shoot spark plugs at high
speed
L1397[15:02:40] <Fluburtur> and shoot
through bricks
L1398[15:03:21] <Tank2333> o.o
L1399[15:03:38] <Fluburtur> spark plugs
actualyl double as armor piercing ammunition
L1400[15:03:49] <Tank2333> O.O
L1402[15:05:59] <kmath> YouTube - TESS
Mission
L1403[15:06:05] <BPlayer> (For the
topic)
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L1410[15:13:10] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
anything is armor piercing if you shoot it fast enough
L1411[15:13:20] <Fluburtur> true
L1412[15:13:28] <Fluburtur> but spark
plugs are weirdly hard
L1413[15:13:40] <BPlayer> Rokker: The
mach cone is the best part!
L1414[15:14:13] <Tank2333> try armor
piercing ice shard
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L1417[15:17:33] <Rokker> it's too
bad exomars didn't fare as well as this test
L1418[15:19:04] <Rokker> GUYS
L1419[15:19:17] <Rokker> SCIFI SALE ON
HUMBLEBUNDLE
L1421[15:19:20] <BPlayer> Uh, ExoMars was
what, again?
L1422[15:19:40] <BPlayer> The last failed
Mars thing I remember was Schiaparelli
L1423[15:19:48] <Rokker> one and the
same
L1424[15:19:53] <BPlayer> Ah, got
it
L1425[15:20:20] <Rokker> BPlayer:
schiaparelli was the name of the lander half of the exomars 2016
mission
L1426[15:20:40] <BPlayer> Well,
"half" is somewhat exaggerated
L1427[15:20:48] <BPlayer> They just stuck
it on there
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L1429[15:21:26] <Althego> it was a lander
demonstrator, and it failed :)
L1430[15:21:29] <Rokker> BPlayer: I mean
you could say that about hyugens and Viking too
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L1432[15:21:51] <Rokker> Althego: it was
more than just a demonstrator
L1433[15:22:04] <Althego> yes it had
science on it
L1434[15:22:15] <Althego> i like that you
can see the shockwave in the video
L1435[15:22:17] <BPlayer> Huygens was
rather similar, but it gathered real scientific data (and was
supposed to gather it too)
L1436[15:22:35] <Rokker> that's what
the ESA gets for letting the Russians get involved with a mars
landing project
L1437[15:22:36] <BPlayer> Not sure about
the Viking, I'm not too well informed about that
L1438[15:22:42] <Rokker> it brought them
bad luk
L1439[15:22:47] <Rokker> luck
L1440[15:22:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hey
guys
L1441[15:23:13] <Rokker> sup
L1442[15:23:27] *
BPlayer growls at GurrenLagannCWP for shifting his whole IRC client
layout because of his long name
L1443[15:23:37] <BPlayer> (Also, hi
:P)
L1444[15:23:43] <GurrenLagannCWP>
lol
L1445[15:23:48] <Rokker> BPlayer:
schiaparelli was supposed to gather some science too
L1446[15:24:00] <Rokker> anyways
L1447[15:24:14] <Althego> Schiaparelli
EDM lander [skjapaˈɾɛlːi] was the Entry, Descent and Landing
Demonstrator Module (EDM) of the ExoMars programme—a joint mission
of the European Space Agency (ESA) and the Russian space agency
Roscosmos.[4] It was built in Italy and was intended to test
technology for future soft landings on the surface of Mars.[5] It
also had a limited but focused science payload that would have
measured atmospheric electrici
L1448[15:24:14] <BPlayer> Rokker: Well,
it was even more limited than what Huygens was supposed to do,
considering Titan was entirely unexplored back then
L1449[15:24:14] <Althego> ty on Mars and
local meteorological conditions.[2][6][7]
L1450[15:24:14] <GurrenLagannCWP>
That's what happens when you name yourself after a mecha
anime
L1451[15:24:15] <Rokker> enough about
mars missions of the past, now it's time for insight
hype
L1452[15:24:56] <Rokker> Alanonzander:
they should have known that if Russia's name is even listed on
a mars mission, it's gonna fail
L1453[15:25:07] <Althego> hah spacex is
delayd 2 days
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L1455[15:25:11] <Althego> still at
midnight
L1457[15:25:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> I tried
to get a rocket into orbit without hyperedit
L1458[15:26:05] <Fluburtur> uh
L1459[15:26:21] <Fluburtur> guess we will
go look at stars early then
L1460[15:26:30] <BPlayer> Have fun!
L1461[15:26:30] <GurrenLagannCWP> it took
me 12 hours
L1462[15:26:41] <GurrenLagannCWP>
wat
L1463[15:26:46] <GurrenLagannCWP> 2
days
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L1465[15:26:54] <BPlayer>
GurrenLagannCWP: Feel free to ask for assistance, we'll be
glad to help
L1466[15:26:56] <Althego> insight in
may
L1467[15:27:03] <Althego> ok, not too far
already
L1468[15:27:16] <BPlayer> Althego: We
have the middle of April right now
L1469[15:27:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> BPlayer
you make me laugh
L1470[15:27:28] <BPlayer> That's
pretty amazingly close
L1471[15:27:30] <Althego> we waited 2
years for it
L1472[15:27:35] <Althego> mere 3 weeks,
what is that
L1473[15:27:47] <BPlayer>
GurrenLagannCWP: Why?
L1474[15:28:13] <BPlayer> Althego: More
than 2 years. It wasn't built, KSP style, just before the
launch. ;-)
L1475[15:28:21] <GurrenLagannCWP>
"@BPlayer growls at GurrenLagannCWP for shifting his whole IRC
client layout because of his long name"
L1476[15:28:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> that
thing
L1477[15:28:28] <Althego> yes but the
delay was
L1478[15:28:38] <BPlayer>
GurrenLagannCWP: Well, yes. Also, I have to type it out every time
now. :P
L1479[15:28:42] <BenjaminK> you know why
the launch was cancelled?
L1480[15:28:48] <GurrenLagannCWP>
no
L1481[15:28:52] <BPlayer> They needed
tests, IIRC
L1482[15:29:04] <GurrenLagannCWP> but why
my text is grey
L1483[15:29:06] <Althego> i want tess to
succeed
L1484[15:29:15] <Althego> it is like the
next kepler
L1485[15:29:17] <GurrenLagannCWP> while
yours is black
L1486[15:29:43] <BPlayer>
GurrenLagannCWP: I'm not sure I understood that.
L1487[15:29:47]
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L1489[15:30:18] <Deddly> GurrenLagannCWP,
it's probably the way your IRC client is set up
L1490[15:30:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> Still
remenber that Laythe-Vall-Moho tour
L1491[15:30:42] <GurrenLagannCWP> Man,
that was amazing
L1492[15:30:47] <Rokker> Insight is outta
sight
L1493[15:30:58] <BPlayer> InSight is
InFairing now
L1494[15:31:12] <GurrenLagannCWP> I wish
Ezriilc was here
L1495[15:31:19] *
Rokker stares at GurrenLagannCWP
L1496[15:31:48] <GurrenLagannCWP> Why is
everyone acting weird on me?
L1497[15:32:03] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
I was just testing something
L1498[15:32:09] <GurrenLagannCWP>
lol
L1499[15:33:09] <GurrenLagannCWP>
I'm playing Minecraft right now, idk why i'm doing
here
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L1502[15:36:43] <oren> ok I just had an
idea that might be lame or might work awesomely
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L1504[15:37:15] <Deddly> Does it involve
balloons and bouncy castles?
L1505[15:37:26] <oren> I can get around
the low fuel density of hydrogen by carrying ore around and
converting it to hydrogen on teh fly
L1506[15:37:30] <BPlayer> Springs and
rocket engines?
L1507[15:37:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> Every
single time i launch Minecraft, my PC frame rate drops to KSP
levels
L1508[15:38:06] <Deddly> GurrenLagannTSS,
Sounds like you need Optifine
L1509[15:38:11] <BPlayer> oren:
What's the Ore -> H2 mass efficiency?
L1510[15:38:40] <GurrenLagannTSS> how do
install optifine
L1511[15:39:10] <oren> BPlayer:
hmmmm...
L1512[15:39:22] <Deddly> GurrenLagannTSS,
I can't remember, sorry. But you should be able to find all
the information you need here
https://optifine.net/home
L1513[15:41:08] <GurrenLagannTSS>
oh
L1514[15:43:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> It
doesnt show how to install it
L1515[15:44:53] <oren> 141 hydrogen per
ore
L1516[15:45:06] <BPlayer> oren:
That's nothing
L1517[15:45:20] <BPlayer> You'll
save on mass if you bring large H2 tanks
L1518[15:45:28] <BPlayer> Like, save a
/lot/ on mass.
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L1520[15:46:36] <oren> what's the
density of LqdHydrogen though
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L1523[15:49:56] <GurrenLagannTSS> omg how
many times does i need to get PING TIMEOUT
L1524[15:51:24] <GurrenLagannTSS> also
dammit more people are complaining about my terrible pc
L1525[15:51:30] <oren> ah. 0.01 tons
Hydrogen
L1526[15:51:42] <SnoopJeDi>
GurrenLagannTSS, using a proper IRC client might fix that,
particularly if you're tabbing away
L1527[15:52:00] <oren> and one unit of
ore weighs 0.01 tons
L1528[15:52:06] <GurrenLagannTSS> but
how
L1529[15:52:11] <oren> so it is 100% mass
efficient
L1530[15:52:48] <BPlayer> That seems
different
L1531[15:53:01] <GurrenLagannTSS>
...
L1532[15:53:04] <BPlayer> IIRC, you need
a few thousands of LH2 for one ton
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L1534[15:53:32] <GurrenLagannTSS>
SnoopJeDi, but how i can get a proper IRC client
L1535[15:53:42] <oren> BPlayer: well 141
LqdHydrogen ~= 0.01 tons
L1536[15:54:09] <SnoopJeDi>
GurrenLagannTSS, HexChat is pretty popular. Otherwise google IRC
clients
L1537[15:54:09] <BPlayer> oren: Alright,
then
L1538[15:54:59] <legion> KVirc is okay
too
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L1540[15:55:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> Did you
know? I once won a Build Battle by literally making a mess
L1541[15:55:51] <oren> so basically, if
I'm taking a ore porcessor anyway, I can carry ore instead of
hydrogen
L1542[15:57:20] <BPlayer> oren: In that
case, yes. Make sure you have enough EC for conversion in real
time, or enough LH2 capacity for burst mode.
L1543[15:57:43] <oren> ...assuming I can
get the uranium, which is definitely not 100% mass eficient
L1544[15:58:09] <GurrenLagannTSS>
wut
L1545[15:58:30] <oren> GurrenLagannTSS:
I'm working with a ton of mods,
L1546[15:58:50] <oren> GurrenLagannTSS:
and attempting to build eveyrthing out of munar ore
L1547[15:58:55] <GurrenLagannTSS>
woah
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L1549[15:59:09] <GurrenLagannTSS> i cant
even run Kopernicus
L1550[15:59:35] <BPlayer> Anyway, guys,
I'm off for today. I'll see you later! :-)
L1551[15:59:51] <oren> I have 3 large
factories on the mun that constantly produce orcketparts and
spacecraft
L1552[16:00:23] <oren> but I should
change some of them to produce uranium insteal
L1553[16:00:48] <oren> or build a
dedicated uranium factory
L1554[16:01:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> Bye
BP
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L1558[16:05:44] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Hey
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L1560[16:09:50] <Rokker> guys
L1561[16:09:58] <Rokker> FTL is only
$2.24
L1562[16:10:03] <Rokker> on humble
bundle
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L1564[16:10:14] <Rokker> everyone go buy
it
L1565[16:11:45] <GurrenLagannCWP> i cant
buy
L1566[16:11:58] <GurrenLagannCWP> i dont
want to buy for a game
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L1568[16:13:51] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
wat
L1569[16:15:00] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
buy FTL, its a good game, worth far more than the 2 dollars it
costs
L1570[16:15:37] <GurrenLagannCWP>
...
L1571[16:16:11] <GurrenLagannCWP> my pc
wont load Halo Online
L1572[16:16:14] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
plus your computer might actually be able to run it
L1573[16:16:28] <GurrenLagannCWP> so high
chance that my crappy pc wont run
L1574[16:17:00] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
FTL isnt graphics or processor heavy
L1575[16:17:02] <Rokker> like at
all
L1576[16:17:09] <Rokker> like... it has
an ipad version
L1577[16:17:13] <Rokker> the ipad can run
it
L1578[16:17:18] <Rokker> your computer
can run it
L1579[16:17:22] <GurrenLagannCWP>
ok
L1580[16:17:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> lets
try
L1581[16:17:37] *
GurrenLagannCWP cracks FTL for no reason
L1583[16:18:07] <GurrenLagannCWP> no
monies
L1584[16:19:31] <oren> GurrenLagannCWP:
get a job
L1585[16:19:57] <Rokker> or dont play
games you cant afford
L1586[16:20:06] <Rokker> because pirating
is ba
L1587[16:20:07] <Rokker> bad
L1588[16:20:11] <GurrenLagannCWP>
idc
L1589[16:20:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> i
havent got issues with ksp
L1590[16:21:27] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
what do you mean you havent got issues with it
L1591[16:22:04] <UmbralRaptor>
GurrenLagannCWP: uh
L1592[16:22:15] <GurrenLagannCWP> because
i havent been in trouble
L1593[16:22:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> after
all, igg already has FTL
L1595[16:23:08] ***
GurrenLagannCWP was kicked by UmbralRaptor (see section 2.2 of the
rules))
L1596[16:23:12] <oren> GurrenLagannCWP:
lol you do realize this is the OFFICIAL channel
L1597[16:23:26] <oren> he didn't
realize
L1598[16:23:43] <Rokker> yo ho yo ho a
pirates life for me
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L1600[16:25:25] <GurrenLagannCWP> oh yeah
my dumb mind is full
L1601[16:26:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> sorry
that i forgot that rule
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L1606[16:37:15] <oren> Rokker: anyway I
prefer steam to humble bumble
L1607[16:37:38] <Rokker> oren: ...
L1608[16:37:48] <Rokker> they literally
give you a steam key
L1609[16:37:56] <Rokker> and 10% of your
money to charity
L1610[16:37:59] <Rokker> like
L1611[16:38:51] <Rokker> oren: you are
getting a good deal on the games, giving 10% of your money to
charity and still getting the game on the preferred platform
L1612[16:39:01] <Rokker> there's no
logic to what you are saying
L1613[16:39:15] <SnoopJeDi> and you will
be corrected
L1614[16:39:23] <oren> Rokker: but steam
gives me alerts when things on my wishlist are on sale. and it has
a social media plaform
L1615[16:39:52] <Rokker> oren: ...
L1616[16:40:45] <Rokker> oren: ok, but
stellaris isn't 64% off on steam right now
L1617[16:40:55] <Rokker> it is on humble
bundle
L1618[16:41:07] <Rokker> that makes
humble bundle in this moment inherently better
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L1620[16:42:56] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L1621[16:44:02] <SnoopJeDi> swear your
allegience to a specific platform or be vanquished,
Supernovy!
L1622[16:44:06] <GurrenLagannCWP>
oh
L1623[16:44:19] <GurrenLagannCWP> FTL
could launch
L1624[16:44:19] <SnoopJeDi> Supernovy,
have you heard about this galaxy wot doesn't seem to have much
of any dark matter?
L1625[16:44:26] <GurrenLagannCWP>
smoothly
L1626[16:44:57] <Supernovy> I have. and I
sear my allegiance to the launch platform.
L1627[16:45:55] <GurrenLagannCWP> oh
wait
L1628[16:47:45] <GurrenLagannCWP> FTL now
is as laggy as KSP, Rokker
L1629[16:47:57] <Rokker> maybe you should
try buying games
L1630[16:48:02] <Rokker> and a
computer
L1631[16:48:30] <GurrenLagannCWP>
ugh
L1632[16:48:37] <GurrenLagannCWP> not
again
L1633[16:48:37] <oren> GurrenLagannCWP:
yeah dude u probly have a million viruses
L1634[16:48:41] <GurrenLagannCWP>
no
L1635[16:48:46] <Rokker> perhaps your
problems come from your wanton downloading of so many things
L1636[16:48:50] <GurrenLagannCWP> igg is
safe
L1637[16:48:57] <oren> lol suuuure it
is
L1638[16:48:59] <Rokker> uh huh
L1639[16:49:04] <GurrenLagannCWP> i never
got a virus
L1640[16:49:11] <Rokker> suuuuure
L1641[16:49:17] <oren> you're
probably mining bitcoins for people in morcoo
L1642[16:49:26] <Rokker> oren: I was just
about to say
L1643[16:49:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> even my
anti-virus says its safe
L1644[16:49:46] <oren> GurrenLagannCWP:
or you could be in a botnet
L1645[16:49:51] <GurrenLagannCWP>
stop
L1646[16:49:52] <Rokker> GurrenLagannCWP:
Norton? McAfee?
L1647[16:49:57] <GurrenLagannCWP>
no
L1648[16:50:22] <oren> GurrenLagannCWP:
lol anti-virus. antiviruses make computers slower worse than most
viruses
L1649[16:50:34] <GurrenLagannCWP>
kapeserby or whatever its spelled
L1650[16:50:42] <oren> Ah, russian
botnet
L1651[16:50:48] <oren> lol
L1652[16:51:03] <GurrenLagannCWP>
stop
L1653[16:51:04] <Rokker> rip
L1654[16:51:17] *
GurrenLagannCWP gets angry
L1655[16:51:34] *
GurrenLagannCWP drills everyone
L1656[16:58:09] <GurrenLagannCWP> i knew
this was gonna happen
L1657[16:58:19] <GurrenLagannCWP> you
guys just KILL me
L1658[17:00:19] <UmbralRaptor> …
L1659[17:03:19] <oren> UmbralRaptor: ...
wait how did u type that
L1660[17:04:04] <UmbralRaptor> oren: I
dedicate a key on my phone's keyboard to that.
L1661[17:04:46] <UmbralRaptor>
Hilariously, my old Motofail Droid 3 had a key for it. Yes, on a
hardware keyboard.
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L1663[17:10:11] <UmbralRaptor>
Ⓡⓔⓐⓛⓛⓨ, ⓣⓗⓞⓤⓖⓗ, ⓦⓗⓐⓣ'ⓢ ⓣⓗⓔ ⓟⓞⓘⓝⓣ ⓞⓕ ⓐ ⓢⓞⓕⓣⓦⓐⓡⓔ ⓚⓔⓨⓑⓞⓐⓡⓓ ⓘⓕ ⓨⓞⓤ'ⓡⓔ ⓝⓞⓣ ⓐⓑⓤⓢⓘⓝⓖ ⓤⓝⓘⓒⓞⓓⓔ?
L1664[17:11:26] <oren> wow I forgot my
font supported those
L1665[17:12:31] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: a
good question
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L1667[17:13:29] <UmbralRaptor>
??²???: ???❔
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L1669[17:15:05] <UmbralRaptor> oren: I
was weirdly happy when Android gained default cuniform support in
Oreo.
L1670[17:15:47] <oren> I don't have
quite that level of support, since I have to draw each character
individually
L1671[17:20:26] <UmbralRaptor> Anyway,
Multiling O keyboard lets you custumize input to an absurd
extent.
L1672[17:22:43] <Supernovy> Sumerian
cuneiform?
L1673[17:23:14] <UmbralRaptor> I think
it's a weird mix of Sumerian and Akkadian. o_O
L1674[17:26:14] <oren> UmbralRaptor: I
thought akkadian cuniform used sumerian cuneiform as
logograms
L1675[17:27:48] <UmbralRaptor> All
I'm sure of is that the symbols changed over time, and
it's not clear when newer or older ones at being used.
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L1678[17:32:48] <Supernovy> What a
coincidence, because it weighs log(0) grams!
L1679[17:37:33] <ConductorCat> :3
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L1684[17:39:19] <Fluburtur> im back
L1685[17:39:25] <Fluburtur> I took some
nice pictures
L1686[17:44:02] <kuzetsa> I can't
think of a situation where log(0) makes sense
L1687[17:45:13] <kuzetsa> like the
physical / intuitive notion - how to represent that
L1689[17:48:02] <kuzetsa>
log(${InfatesinmalNon-ZeroValue}), but tangible things can't
be measured accurately enough to ever get there, so being a liar
and telling your model to do log(0) is a mistake o.O
L1691[17:48:59] <Supernovy> lim x->0
log(x) decreases without bound
L1692[17:49:59] <kuzetsa> citing that
limits "go there" is a cop out :P
L1693[17:50:18] <kuzetsa> I'm a firm
believer in infatesinmal nonzero values which CAN be negative
L1694[17:50:46] <Supernovy> like
-ε?
L1695[17:50:52] <kuzetsa> mmm hot
L1696[17:50:55] <kuzetsa> <3
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L1698[17:52:21] <kuzetsa> I spelled
infinitesimal wrong, but yes. exactly that.
L1699[17:52:36] <Fluburtur> uh I wish I
had more zoom on my telescope
L1700[17:52:45] <kuzetsa> move it
closer?
L1701[17:53:17] <Fluburtur> well I could
walk like 50 meters but I don't think it would do much
L1702[17:53:30] <kuzetsa> maybe
L1703[17:55:07] <Fluburtur> because the
planet in the pîcture is jupiter
L1704[17:55:36] <Fluburtur> it's
actually really bright but if you don't know what it is then
you can't really differentiate it from another star
L1705[17:56:11] <Rokker> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ( ͡°
͜ʖ ͡°)
L1706[17:56:16] <Rokker> ignore
that
L1707[17:56:20] <Rokker> I'm testing
things
L1708[17:56:22] <Rokker> and stuff
L1709[17:56:31] <Fluburtur> Rokker did
you like my picture
L1710[17:56:39] <Rokker> what pic
L1712[17:57:03] <Rokker> nice
L1714[17:57:39] <Fluburtur> and some red
giant but I forgot which one
L1715[17:58:07] <Rokker> Fluburtur: I
prefer that Vega to the dum rocket
L1716[17:58:16] <Fluburtur> don't
start again
L1717[17:58:51] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
don't tell me what to do
L1718[17:59:10] <Fluburtur> I will
L1719[18:00:18] <Rokker> Fluburtur: no
you wont
L1721[18:00:44] <Draconiator> Is there a
video card that would fit in a PCIe 1x slot? That's my only
slot that has space heh
L1722[18:01:01] <Rokker> Draconiator:
uh
L1723[18:01:04] <Rokker> not a good
ine
L1724[18:01:05] <Rokker> one
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L1726[18:04:59] <Draconiator> ah, my
current card BARELY fits in my machine, and I think I found an
upgrade that would work...Nvidia GT1030 from my GT610
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L1732[18:27:06] <Fluburtur> I could
probably get a pic of the rings of saturn with my telescope
L1733[18:27:10] <Fluburtur> but it would
be bad I think
L1734[18:27:46] <oren> Fluburtur: what
about the moons of jupiter
L1735[18:27:56] <Fluburtur> look at the
picture
L1736[18:28:00] <Fluburtur> I got 3 of
them
L1738[18:29:22] <oren> what abut the blue
dot to the liwer right of the others
L1739[18:29:46] <Fluburtur> could be a
star
L1740[18:30:54] <Fluburtur> im pretty
sure it isn't a moon
L1741[18:31:05] <Fluburtur> but not
100%
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L1743[18:33:38] <Fluburtur> im gonna have
a job soon so I can probably get a more proper telescope then but
those cost a lot
L1744[18:40:28] <Fluburtur> uh now that I
know how to point a telescope at jupiter I could rig up some radio
telescope tuned to the hydrogen line and listen to jupiter
L1745[18:40:35] <Draconiator> hmmm
L1746[18:41:00] <Draconiator> heh, what
three moons do you think you got? I also see at least 5 dots in
here
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L1749[18:42:01] <Fluburtur> ganymede,
europe and callisto I think
L1750[18:42:18] <Fluburtur> my friend had
a sky map on his phone so im pretty sure it was those
L1751[18:42:29] <Fluburtur> I probably
can't see the smaller ones with my telescope
L1752[18:43:06] <Fluburtur> didnt see
io
L1753[18:43:15] <Fluburtur> was probably
hiding somewhere
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L1757[18:47:29] <Fluburtur> wooo esa
didn't instantly crash away
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L1759[18:52:16] <Fluburtur> I should go
to bed now
L1761[18:52:50] <kmath> YouTube - Rating
Agencies Explained
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L1764[18:54:52] <GurrenLagannTSS>
back
L1765[18:55:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> oren,
lets continue ourpm thing
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L1767[19:06:14] <Rokker> we have new info
about the Next Generation Launcher from OA
L1768[19:06:28] <GurrenLagannTSS>
..
L1769[19:06:36] <GurrenLagannTSS> i got
steam
L1770[19:06:45] <Rokker> RL10-Cs instead
of BE-3Us, it's beautiful
L1771[19:06:55] <GurrenLagannTSS> also i
changed my name to my fourm username
L1772[19:07:04] <GurrenLagannTSS> even
though i dont use it
L1773[19:07:30] <Rokker> it's
basically a twin engine centaur on top of some shuttle srb
segments
L1774[19:07:34] <Rokker> I love it
L1775[19:07:55] <GurrenLagannTSS> Rokker,
i got steam
L1776[19:07:55] ***
Soundwave is now known as legion
L1777[19:08:25] <Rokker> GurrenLagannTSS:
cool, now buy some games
L1778[19:08:34] <GurrenLagannTSS> no
monies
L1779[19:08:42] <Rokker> and run some
scans on your computer with a real AV
L1780[19:08:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> both
irl and steam
L1781[19:08:54] <Rokker> like
malwarebytes or avast
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L1783[19:11:30] <GurrenLagannTSS> Rokker,
send a trade request
L1784[19:12:01] <Rokker> I ain't got
nothing to trade
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L1786[19:12:31] <GurrenLagannTSS> do you
have EU4
L1787[19:12:38] <Rokker> yes
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L1789[19:12:47] <GurrenLagannTSS> i need
it
L1790[19:13:06] <Rokker> get some money
and wait for a steam sale
L1791[19:13:11] <GurrenLagannTSS> because
i want to ply multiplayer
L1792[19:13:20] <GurrenLagannTSS> also i
cant get monies
L1793[19:13:33] <GurrenLagannTSS> its
just too rare where i am
L1795[19:15:10] <GurrenLagannTSS> lets
recreate the TESS mission
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L1798[19:21:41] <Draconiator> AVG and
Malwarebytes over here.
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L1801[19:27:52] <kmath> YouTube -
Jebediah Approved Mun Rover
L1802[19:36:11] <GurrenLagannTSS> No
views
L1803[19:36:19] <GurrenLagannTSS>
I'm trully first
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L1805[19:50:28] <Rokker> I'll ask it
first
L1806[19:50:36] <Rokker> wut
L1807[20:09:09] <Draconiator> well, I
just discovered if ya want an easy landing, do it from an
elliptical orbit.
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L1809[20:12:05] <JCB> uff.. landing on
jet engines, vertically.. starting to think maybe I should go
joystick in ksp from now on
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L1815[20:25:44] <jgkamat> ooh, nice base
:)
L1816[20:33:24] <Draconiator> That thing
in the background was the landing stage.
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L1822[21:06:27] <oren> the mun has turned
black again.
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L1825[21:09:09] <Epi> hah
L1826[21:15:52] <ConductorCat> Is that
where he gets the rocket parts?
L1827[21:18:43] <jgkamat> wow is that in
the base game :D
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L1830[21:36:05] <oren> i should turn off
the eclipses in scatterer
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L1832[21:40:33] <JCB> Jeb been playing
Elite on his off time or...?
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L1839[21:57:27] <oren> Another 21
thousand rocketparts on its way to the kerbin station
L1842[22:01:45] <oren> well 21 thousant
rocketparts and copious amounts of fuel too
L1843[22:04:26] <JCB> oren hoping for big
project or.. secret stock pile?
L1844[22:07:08] <oren> JCB: these will
probably be used for the laythe project
L1845[22:07:45] <JCB> laythe the
planet... not the machine? ^.~
L1846[22:08:20] <KrazyKrl> No, lath; as
in plaster.
L1847[22:08:59] <JCB> sorry moon.. ugh
also wiki plastering thing in your face when you go to the
site
L1848[22:09:23] <KrazyKrl> use an
adblocker/scriptblocker?
L1849[22:10:10] <JCB> terms and policies
thing, updated back on March 6th
L1850[22:10:22] <oren> descending to 38
km is necessary to aerobrake this much mass
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L1855[22:19:53] <JCB> mass?
L1856[22:22:27] <oren> 115 tons
L1857[22:23:39] <UmbralRaptor> JCB:
please metaphorically stab whoever thought repeatedly EULA-slapping
everyone was a good idea.
L1858[22:25:10] <JCB> well.. I'll
admit, I didn't exactly hit the 'I agree' thing when
it comes up.
L1859[22:25:57] <JCB> fine, you wanna
collect my data when I browse your site? You better have some good
security on that site...
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L1869[22:59:53] <oren> meanwhile, the
crew of the educational expedition have a bouncy castle party
L1870[23:01:18] <oren> well, except that
the inflatable heat shield is disappointingly un-bouncy
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L1878[23:15:14] <Rokker> Draconiator: did
you just say eev sounds annoying
L1879[23:15:19] <Rokker> How dare
you
L1880[23:17:43] <Draconiator> his VOICE,
not HIM
L1881[23:17:49] <Draconiator> lol
L1882[23:18:47] <Rokker> Draconiator: HOW
DARE YOU
L1883[23:19:02] <Rokker> HE HAS THE VOICE
OF A VERY HIGH PITCHED AUSSIE ANGEL
L1884[23:19:07] <Draconiator> But
wow....come a long way since then.
L1885[23:19:33] <Draconiator> If
he's Aussie it's okay then.
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L1891[23:42:00] <Rokker> Draconiator:
that's not too loud
L1892[23:42:19] <Rokker> not as bad as my
computer playing pre-optimized PUBG
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L1896[23:55:55] <Althego> i like the
magical creíatures. the imperial stormtrooper is lol
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