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L7[00:18:42] <Supercheese> Boop
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L9[00:28:55] <Althego> apagando las
luces
L10[00:33:53] <Althego> (sombra ultimate
because of boop)
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L12[00:38:40] <freacknate09> hey
L13[00:39:05] <freacknate09> I have a
question that I have copied and pasted among 2 discord
servers.
L14[00:39:08] <freacknate09> Can someone
help me make a simple engine control script? I just need KoS to
keep my central engines in this design throttled down enough to
keep a twr of 1.5, and then deactivate once the jet engines finish,
returning 100% control to me. I still need throttle control, so it
would have to be something like thrust limiter
L15[00:39:08] <freacknate09> I have such
limited knowledge of kerboscript though, that I am not sure how to
do it
L16[00:40:12] <Althego> sorry, cant help
you with that
L17[00:40:43] <Althego> maybe if somebody
is still awake in america
L18[00:40:56] <jgkamat> I don't know kos at
all :(
L19[00:41:32] <freacknate09> ok
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L29[01:58:19] <kmath> YouTube - The Sound
(& Visions) of Silence
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L37[03:48:34] <tivec> so i started a new
playthrough, career mode with mods (lots of them) in 1.4. I've
recompiled one or two mods, but I am having this weird issue:
https://i.imgur.com/pmrKQ2t.jpg the attachment nodes
on the default fuel tanks are off... Any suggestions?
L38[03:49:37] <tivec> I'm using procedural
parts, so I can just make my own tanks, but I wanted to try the new
skinning system
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L40[03:58:55] <Althego> as usual, try to
remove mods to see what causes it
L41[03:59:48] <tivec> yeah... also, it
seems that my engines (default ones) spawn with shrouds permanently
visible
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L44[04:06:35] <kubi> morning
L45[04:08:09] <Althego> star
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L48[04:25:20] <tivec> found the
culprit!
L49[04:25:38] <tivec> the MissingHistory
mod was editing the parts
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L51[04:28:24] <taniwha> missing
history?
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L61[05:38:34] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: it's
Snark's mod
L62[05:39:00] <TheKosmonaut> Adds some
parts he feel are missing from the stock parts
L63[05:39:19] <TheKosmonaut> Specifically,
from the Making History DLC.
L64[05:39:45] <taniwha> suspect it might be
something like that
L65[05:39:52] <TheKosmonaut> It's pretty
good
L66[05:40:22] <taniwha> it seems the best
mods have some salt ;)
L67[05:40:28] <TheKosmonaut> Been trying to
play stock and I'm already bored
L68[05:40:36] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha:
everything is better with salt
L69[05:40:51] <taniwha> yeah
L70[05:41:47] <TheKosmonaut> Tangent: I had
an argument with someone at work the other day about salt
L71[05:41:59] <TheKosmonaut> They insist
Ajinomoto and salt are the same thing
L72[05:42:21] <TheKosmonaut> Because I
asked them if they had salt and they handed me one of those small
bottles of Ajinomoto
L73[05:44:18] <TheKosmonaut> (Ajinomoto is
basically MSG, though I suppose they do make other stuff)
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L75[05:54:09] <taniwha> I thought it was a
brand
L76[05:54:46] <taniwha> with MSG being
their main product
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L82[06:14:05] <kmath> YouTube - Animatronic
DIY Musical Face On A Modular Synthesiser?
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L84[06:16:04] <TheKosmonaut> taniwha: Yeah,
I mean the name is synonymous w/ MSG
L85[06:16:12] <TheKosmonaut>
s/mean/meant
L87[06:21:42] <Althego> hehe
L88[06:21:48] <Althego> intelligently
designed :)
L90[06:25:10] <Althego> smooth bird
L91[06:25:16] <Fluburtur> yes
L93[06:25:52] <Althego> son?
L94[06:32:14] <Fluburtur> uh im idiot
L95[06:32:25] <Fluburtur> the tail I
designed is bigger than my printer can do
L96[06:32:37] <Althego> hehe
L97[06:32:52] <Althego> make it from 2
parts
L98[06:32:54] <Fluburtur> well not the
rudder but the elevator is
L99[06:33:08] <Althego> and glue it
L100[06:33:18] <Fluburtur> yeah I will
have to do that
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L102[06:51:37] <Lyneira> Just completed
circumnavigation in my hoverjet :D
L103[06:52:53] <Fluburtur> nice
L104[06:52:57] <Fluburtur> how long did it
take?
L105[06:53:12] <Althego> btw that picture
last time, was that with some visual mod?
L106[06:53:21] <Althego> in the river
valley with some plane
L107[06:53:49] <Lyneira> About 8 days I
think, I stopped several times to refuel with the onboard ISRU
equipment
L108[06:54:00] <Lyneira> And did scenic
detours to rivers and mountain ranges
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L110[06:54:12] <Lyneira> Most of the time
was spent doing refueling
L111[06:54:24] <Lyneira> But thankfully
there is timewarp for that :)
L113[06:54:46] <kmath> YouTube - 'Time
Warp' Scene w/ Lyrics | The Rocky Horror Picture Show
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L116[07:10:19] <Coto> Hello
L117[07:10:20] <Mod9000> Hello, Coto
L118[07:10:26] <Coto> New here
L119[07:12:19] <Coto> I had a question
about weather balloons. What would happen if you underfilled a
weather balloon (with helium/hydrogen), just so it could barely
ascend upwards? Why do people fill it so much they have to have
lots of people holding the balloon from going up?
L120[07:14:54] <Althego> normally they are
underfilled
L121[07:15:04] <Althego> so that the gas
can expand in the higher atmosphere
L122[07:17:27] <Coto> Yeah that's what I
thought but if you look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpyTodmfg8 (it's
like this in like every launch video), the balloon is already
trying to go upwards (slow, but it does). Why do they keep filling
it?
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L128[07:26:48] <taniwha> TheKosmonaut:
like hoover/vacuum cleaner, I guess :)
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L143[08:14:31] <Althego> the steam rocket
flat earther did it
L144[08:14:52] <Althego> must have been a
nice ride
L145[08:14:59] <Althego> totally
irrelevant for flat earth research
L146[08:15:12] <Althego> you can go up
that high with a bit more expensive camera drone
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L149[08:20:55] *
UmbralRaptop suspects that the data would be so noisy, that it
would make more sense to use a sextant, a quartz clock, and drive
to a few different locations.
L150[08:21:58] <NGC3982> any particular
reason for the timer in ksp not being synced with the system
clock?
L151[08:22:39] <NGC3982> an un-warped
second is slower than the system second
L152[08:22:39] <UmbralRaptop> Are you
getting yellow or red on the timer?
L153[08:22:48] <NGC3982> no
L154[08:23:11] <UmbralRaptop> okay, that
sounds odd.
L155[08:23:11] <NGC3982> comparing with my
android phone timer and the PC (w10) system clock.
L156[08:23:31] <Althego> maybe kerbal
seconds are different :)
L157[08:23:32] <NGC3982> 60 system seconds
is about 66 ksp seconds.
L158[08:23:33] <NGC3982> hehe
L159[08:23:35] <NGC3982> perhaps
L160[08:23:36] <Althego> but they shouldnt
be
L161[08:23:44] <UmbralRaptop> ^
L162[08:23:52] <Althego> they should be
out of sync when the timer is not green
L163[08:24:29] *
UmbralRaptop should probably check on this this
afternoon?
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L165[08:32:18] <NGC3982> i have not done
any extensive testing
L166[08:32:26] <NGC3982> i just realized
when having long burns and used my phone timer a few times.
L167[08:32:34] <NGC3982> on 1.4 steam
client btw.
L168[08:35:54] <Pakaran> Morning.
L169[08:36:12] <Pakaran> It's totally
normal when KSP takes 20 minutes to load, right? lol
L170[08:36:26] <NGC3982> mods?
L171[08:36:31] <Pakaran> yeah
L172[08:36:34] <NGC3982> also: perhaps
stuck on a particular mod?
L173[08:36:51] <Pakaran> had chrome open
at the same time, and only 8 gig of memory.
L174[08:37:25] <Pakaran> also all of KSS
and USI, plus parts mods, so yeah, I'd use less if it was a serious
concern (and do have a totally stock install, among others)
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L177[08:53:14] <UmbralRaptop> 1.4.1 seems
to take a few minutes even stock, I think?
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L179[08:54:53] <GurrenLagannCWP> N70|zzz:
boom new NationState
L180[08:55:03] <GurrenLagannCWP> oh wait
its sleeping
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L182[08:58:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> omfg soo
many telegrams
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L186[09:04:48] *
pixelfox drops out of warp
L187[09:05:41] <Althego> you are unable to
warp, because you are warp scrambled
L188[09:05:53] <pixelfox> haha
L189[09:06:08] <pixelfox> just been
messing around with fusion reactors and warp cores on ksp
L190[09:06:53] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
HALP I'M DROWING WITH TELEGRAMS
L191[09:06:54] <NGC3982> pixelfox: don't
forget to check the plasma conduits
L192[09:07:01] <pixelfox> :P
L193[09:07:35] <GurrenLagannCWP> Hey
NGC
L194[09:07:55] <NGC3982> GurrenLagannCWP:
mr pi.
L195[09:07:56] <pixelfox> i still say the
part is way too big , nice to cruise around the systems but ......
dilithium is basically ore used for electric , seems the only
challenge would be running out of power (which blows up your
craft)
L196[09:10:53] <pixelfox> the new
inflatable docking port makes for a great extension to lower the nx
class shuttle :)
L197[09:11:47] <pixelfox> the
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L199[09:11:57] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
i'm recieving 1,245,978.55 telegrams every second from
NationStates. Is that normal?
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L201[09:17:37] <Althego> in what
game?
L202[09:18:09] <GurrenLagannCWP> Althego:
NationStates
L203[09:18:20] <VanDisaster> nationstates
is not particularily spammy for me
L204[09:18:41] <VanDisaster> probably
worse if you're in a default region
L205[09:19:00] <GurrenLagannCWP>
nope
L206[09:19:17] <VanDisaster> I have the
same 16 telegrams I've had for about a year :p
L207[09:19:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> i'm in
TCoG
L208[09:19:47] <GurrenLagannCWP> i got
25
L209[09:19:50] <GurrenLagannCWP> wtf
L210[09:20:08] <GurrenLagannCWP> is that
normal for a centrist nation
L211[09:21:11] <VanDisaster> one of mine
was to tell me the nation's motto got moderated after about 10
years...
L212[09:24:02] <GurrenLagannCWP> show me
plz i didnt got that
L213[09:29:39] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
can you help me for a sec
L214[09:33:57] <NGC3982> sure
L215[09:35:19] <GurrenLagannCWP> i'm
getting 1,547,421 telegrams every sec on NationStates
L216[09:35:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> is that
normal
L217[09:35:30] <NGC3982> i have no idea
what that is
L219[09:38:42] <NGC3982> uhm, ok?
L220[09:40:40] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
VanDisaster may explain that to you
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L227[10:41:42] <Daz> For todays episode of
help a returning player: Which engine is supposed to fit on the
M.E.M? Looks like a spark but adding it makes a huge gap between
the MEM and the engine :/
L228[10:44:20] <Althego> the small orange
thing, that is probably the spark should be ok. if there is a gap,
just shift it in
L230[10:45:25] <Lyneira> Gave it the exact
same stats as the panther though so it's "stock" as far
as I'm concerned
L231[10:46:02] <Daz> it seems the MEM uses
the new formfactor (1.8?) but all those engines are HUGE compared
to the module itself
L232[10:46:19] <Daz> Althego that's what I
did but I kind of expected there to be a better solution
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L244[11:04:57] <NGC3982> im having so much
trouble getting to jools moons :/
L245[11:05:17] <NGC3982> tried refueling
on dres, but i always enter in a 90 degree incline for some
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L251[11:27:39] <Eddi|zuHause> improper
plane change?
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L253[11:28:34] <Eddi|zuHause> mind you,
i've never been to jool
L254[11:31:43] <NGC3982> i think my
problem is that i do not understand how to level myself directly
from decent from planet a to planet b
L255[11:32:03] <NGC3982> so i always have
to do a plane change first, and a catch burn second
L256[11:37:25] <NGC3982> bah, and now i
ended up retrograde to the moon rotation.
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L273[12:40:55] <NGC3982> i managed to
focus myself on the sun
L274[12:40:59] <NGC3982> how do i get back
to my craft?
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L278[12:42:06] <Mat2ch> NGC3982: press
backspace
L279[12:42:35] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: that's
creepy :D
L280[12:42:40] <Fluburtur> yeah
L281[12:42:49] <Fluburtur> but then again
look at the furby organ
L282[12:43:17] <Mat2ch> ;D
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L284[12:43:39] <NGC3982> Mat2ch: doesn't
do anything.
L285[12:43:58] <NGC3982> oh, delete did
it.
L286[12:44:18] <NGC3982> nope, it
didnt.
L287[12:44:19] <NGC3982> ..
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L290[12:46:29] <Mat2ch> NGC3982: hrm,
where was your craft orbiting?
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L292[12:46:38] <NGC3982> jool.
L293[12:46:50] <NGC3982> i fixed it by
tabbing trough the entire solar system until i reached my
craft.
L294[12:46:57] <Mat2ch> Then double click
jool and zoom in
L295[12:47:21] <Mat2ch> was this in map
mode or in the observatory?
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L297[12:56:28] <UmbralRaptop> shift+tab
should cycle backwards, unless that was also changed.
L298[13:01:32] <NGC3982> Mat2ch:
map.
L299[13:01:48] <NGC3982> double click in
map (no warp) is not doing anything
L300[13:04:20] <Althego> however shift
also activates the engines :)
L301[13:04:30] <Althego> so dumb default
choice
L302[13:05:24] <UmbralRaptop> Well, if the
navball is up
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L304[13:17:48] <NGC3982> oh for god
sake
L305[13:17:55] <NGC3982> no sufficient
mining materials on pol
L306[13:18:30] <Althego> hehe
L307[13:19:58] <NGC3982> i guess i have a
little fuel to move myself to another biome..
L308[13:27:10] <NGC3982> yey it
worked
L309[13:50:35] <Daz> can ore be converted
into xenon?
L310[13:51:13] <Althego> not in
stock
L311[13:51:52] <ConductorCat> äżş
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L313[13:52:57] <klesh> hey folks
L314[13:58:18] <klesh> anyone willing to
help a little with some MM coding?
L315[13:59:14] <klesh> It should be
relatively simple, the one thing I am trying to change lacks
examples for me to pilfer from, so I could use a few
pointers.
L317[14:00:42] <jgkamat> ooh, looks cool
:)
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L324[14:24:11] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L325[14:24:58] <iamfishhead1> Evening
Supernovy
L326[14:26:06] <klesh> hello
L327[14:26:06] <Mod9000> Hello,
klesh
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L335[14:36:35] <klesh> So, changing EC
consumption rate via MM
L336[14:36:53] <klesh> for reaction wheels
in a command pod
L337[14:41:59] <ve2dmn> Good
afternoon/evening/morning/whatever
L338[14:43:47] <ve2dmn> Did a quick
playthrough of Astroneer while I wait for all my KSP mods to be
updated
L339[14:45:11] <ve2dmn> 22h and I'm
already bored
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L341[14:45:40] <SnoopJeDi> the
"quick" playthrough was 22 hrs? o.O
L342[14:45:45] <SnoopJeDi> or is that
total time
L343[14:45:49] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: your
drone to rescue the sea plane? :D
L344[14:45:56] <ve2dmn> well... since 1.4
was released
L345[14:46:03] <Fluburtur> nah it can't
climb trees
L346[14:46:11] <ve2dmn> 22h was total
time
L347[14:46:35] <ve2dmn> Now I need another
game to test
L348[14:46:35] <Mat2ch> so, why aren't you
building a robot that can climb trees then? :D
L349[14:46:38] <klesh> I've enjoyed
Astroneer less as development has gone on
L350[14:47:08] <ve2dmn> klesh: there was
an update recently and I had never played the game
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L352[14:47:31] <SnoopJeDi> It looks like a
fun enough build/relax-em-up with...not enough content?
L353[14:47:59] <ve2dmn> exactly
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L355[14:48:30] <ve2dmn> Plus the vehicules
are hard to use
L356[14:48:37] <ve2dmn> But the
base-building was fun
L357[14:48:38] <NGC3982> wow. tylo is not
easy to land on.
L358[14:48:40] <klesh> I've taken to
trying to learn MM code so I can patch up some of these MH
parts
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L361[15:00:59] <darsie> NGC3982: Did you
make it?
L362[15:04:20] <NGC3982> no, i did
not
L363[15:04:40] <darsie> Do you have the
full tech tree?
L364[15:04:46] <NGC3982> so far it's
kerbin > dres > pol > bop and heading for vall
L365[15:04:47] <darsie> stock?
L366[15:04:47] <NGC3982> yes
L367[15:04:50] <NGC3982> and yes.
L368[15:05:38] <darsie> With an asteroid
in Tylo orbit you could refuel there.
L369[15:06:29] <darsie> The sentinel can
find asteroids near Jool.
L370[15:06:29] <NGC3982> oh i havent even
seen asteroids yet
L371[15:06:33] <NGC3982> cool
L372[15:07:07] <darsie> 1.4?
L373[15:08:26] <darsie> Asteroids in 1.3
were too broken for me.
L374[15:08:32] <darsie> Were ok in
1.4
L375[15:08:57] <NGC3982> yes
L376[15:09:00] <NGC3982> ok
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L378[15:09:58] <darsie> I never bothered
with class A, but maybe they are big enough for the job.
L379[15:10:13] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Hi!!
L380[15:10:19] <darsie> hi!!!
L381[15:10:56] <GurrenLagannCWP> How are
you?
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L383[15:13:38] <darsie> I'm long.
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L385[15:21:38] <UmbralRaptop> As opposed
to float, into, double, etc?
L386[15:21:49] <Althego> i was thinking
about that too
L387[15:23:31] <Supernovy>
Umboolraptor
L388[15:24:09] <SnoopJeDi> super(Novy,
self).__init__()
L389[15:24:18] <Althego> heh python
L390[15:24:27] <darsie> As opposed to
short.
L391[15:26:10] <SnoopJeDi> Althego, you
got ssssomething to sssay about Python?
L392[15:26:57] <Supernovy>
Su-py-novy
L393[15:28:09] <SnoopJeDi> when you lay
down to sleep, are you Supinenovy?
L394[15:28:51] <Supernovy> No, I'm
Suproneovy
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L404[15:47:57] <NGC3982> oh
L405[15:48:40] *
pixelfox cruisers in ...
L406[15:49:13] <darsie> Don't use the
small miner. Shitty efficiency. Or was it the refinery?
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L408[15:49:49] <pixelfox> ive gone beyond
kerbal, using new warp core mod
L409[15:50:09] <TheKosmonaut> Language
please darsie
L410[15:50:29] <pixelfox> hey kos :)
L411[15:51:53] <pixelfox> loving the new
parts anyway to change the awfull engine on / off sound ?
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L414[15:58:41] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
Ready for a Freeciv match?
L415[16:04:30] <darsie> fecal
efficiency*
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L419[16:12:52] <GurrenLagannCWP_>
crash
L420[16:13:29] <NGC3982> GurrenLagannCWP:
i do not play freeciv.
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L423[16:15:35] <NGC3982> bah, i cant get
myself to vall :(.
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L425[16:16:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
My IRC crashed
L426[16:16:43] <jgkamat> :(
L428[16:19:01] <CarlenWhite> I've spent
too much time writing some kOS code to maintain connection.
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L433[16:29:32] <CarlenWhite> Does anyone
have a good Discord link to kOS's discord? The one on their Reddit
is expired.
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L435[16:36:31] <NGC3982> also, it seems i
actually -cannot- land at vall.
L436[16:36:55] <NGC3982> im at peri+apoap
at <10k and still at 800m/s.
L437[16:37:12] <NGC3982> my little lv909
cant solve that :(.
L438[16:37:44] <GurrenLagannCWP> NGC3982:
is it crewed
L439[16:37:54] <NGC3982> no
L440[16:37:58] <CarlenWhite> NGC3982,
800m/s? That should be slow and low enough for ships to get hit
with serious drag.
L442[16:38:22] <NGC3982> CarlenWhite: on a
atmosphereless moon?
L443[16:38:35] <CarlenWhite> Oh thought
you wre landing on someplace with a atmosphere.
L444[16:38:40] <NGC3982> :).
L445[16:38:45] <NGC3982> actually, it
seems the lv909 can manage
L446[16:38:53] <NGC3982> just barely
L447[16:38:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> then its
impossible to land on Vall with your currrent craft
L448[16:39:05] *
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L449[16:42:41] <NGC3982> i landed!
L450[16:42:47] <CarlenWhite> Woo
L451[16:43:15] <GurrenLagannCWP>
woah
L452[16:43:30] <NGC3982> ..barely!
L453[16:43:44] <GurrenLagannCWP> i can
only land using HyperEdit because of LAAAAAAAG
L454[16:44:11] *
NGC3982 streams from steam.
L455[16:44:28] *
Ezriilc winks
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L459[16:48:14] <CarlenWhite> Nearly 80-90%
of the code was just UI and logic fluff :v
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L461[16:50:03] <CarlenWhite> Fifty lines
for a sane way to input text.
L462[16:50:27] *
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L463[16:50:36] <CarlenWhite> And it's only
used for putting in vessel names and which one to delete.
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L467[16:53:33] <BlackPhoenix_>
CarlenWhite, did you find that discord link in the end?
L468[16:54:00] <CarlenWhite> Nope. I send
a message over to the mods of kOS but haven't gotten a reply back
yet.
L469[16:54:14] <BlackPhoenix_> Okay! I'm
interested too
L470[16:54:25] <BlackPhoenix_> I've been
poking kOS a lot
L471[16:54:47] <CarlenWhite> Yeah I'm
particularly interested in trying to figure out to see if a vessel
exists without causing an exception.
L472[16:55:00] <NGC3982> FINALLY.
L473[16:55:01] <CarlenWhite> And also how
to print a BEL character propperly.
L474[16:55:10] <NGC3982> i landed without
everything going boom
L475[16:55:11] <NGC3982> \o/
L476[16:55:12] <BlackPhoenix_> I've been
pushing for a way to handle errors in software for a long time
haha
L477[16:55:33] <BlackPhoenix_> I wrote a
simple multitasking realtime OS for my stuff, so obviously if
there's a slightest error, it brings the entire system down
L478[16:56:15] <CarlenWhite> The biggest
problem in my code is that if you put in a vessel that doesn't
exist, it causes a crash because I cannot find a method to check if
a vessel exists first before doing something.
L479[16:56:31] <CarlenWhite> Also neat.
Like what does your OS do?
L480[16:56:32] <BlackPhoenix_> I dunno how
to handle two computers controlling the spacecraft at the same time
yet, so I can't make it switch over to a second computer if first
one has an error
L482[16:57:04] <CarlenWhite> Oooh.
Neat.
L483[16:57:05] <BlackPhoenix_> It has
several different parts
L484[16:57:22] <BlackPhoenix_> It handles
tasks - lets you create tasks with different priorities, then it
does task scheduling for them
L486[16:57:36] <NGC3982> thats a good run
for today
L487[16:57:38] <BlackPhoenix_> It's
cooperative multitasking so each task has to yield once in a while,
but other than that, the time slices and the such will be managed
by the OS
L488[16:58:04] <BlackPhoenix_> It runs (by
default) at 100 msec minor loop length, e.g. highest priority tasks
will be executed every 100 msec
L489[16:58:27] <BlackPhoenix_> Second big
module is the UI, it allows outputting data onto screen in a
variety of formats really quickly, without consuming extra
instructions
L490[16:58:43] <BlackPhoenix_> So I can
output lets say 20 variables that all change in realtime and not
put extra load on it
L491[16:59:11] <CarlenWhite> Sounds pretty
rad.
L492[16:59:13] <BlackPhoenix_> Then it
also has other minor things. Proper handling of transition between
different guidance software blocks & modes etc
L493[16:59:23] <BlackPhoenix_> And a
little more convenient steering interface
L494[16:59:36] <BlackPhoenix_> Unlike
default kOS, there's an option to (for example) inhibit all control
output
L495[16:59:49] <BlackPhoenix_> So the
computer will still work and synchronize with other computers, but
doesn't actually steer the vehicle
L496[16:59:55] <BlackPhoenix_> That stuff
isn't fully finished yet
L497[16:59:59] <GurrenLagannCWP> what is
kOS, i'm a newbie
L498[17:00:08] <CarlenWhite> kerbal
Operating System.
L499[17:00:18] <BlackPhoenix_> The idea is
that you can have two computers so you can update software
on-the-go without disconnecting computers from controlling the
vehicle
L500[17:00:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> oh
thx
L501[17:00:40] <CarlenWhite> Pretty much
computers you can slap on your rockets to send your Kerbals into
space or right into the ground, depending on how competent of a
coder you are.
L502[17:00:44] <BlackPhoenix_> But that
doesn't work just yet. I need to try it again with newer kOS. I
want to make a single button which switches between master or slave
computer
L503[17:00:57] <BlackPhoenix_> Based on
this RTOS, I wrote guidance software for a shuttle
L504[17:01:04] <BlackPhoenix_> It puts it
into orbit, does re-entry guidance and landing guidance
L506[17:01:51] <kmath> YouTube - KSP
Re-entry (mission 3)
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L509[17:02:32] <CarlenWhite> Also throwing
out the idea, probably three computers. One as main, one as backup,
and one as monitoring. Probably have the monitor keep pinging the
main and if it stops working, shut it down and spool up the
backup.
L510[17:03:20] <BlackPhoenix_> Yah
L511[17:03:29] <CarlenWhite> Maybe the
monitor could also recieve variables so if the main crashes, the
monitor can quickly bring the backup up to speed.
L512[17:03:32] <BlackPhoenix_> Well, for
simplicity I'm gonna start with just two
L513[17:03:35] <BlackPhoenix_> With manual
switchover
L514[17:03:47] <BlackPhoenix_> One button
to toggle between which computer is connected to controls
L515[17:04:12] <CarlenWhite> But yeah kOS
has to have some way to handle errors.
L516[17:04:44] <CarlenWhite> Especially if
you can't check if you can do something before doing it.
L517[17:04:58] <CarlenWhite> Like how I
can't check the existance of a vessel.
L518[17:05:34] <BlackPhoenix_> I gave a
variety of suggestions that all handle errors
L519[17:05:59] <BlackPhoenix_> At very
least, they could have a global variable that's set to something if
a program was restarted after an error happened
L520[17:06:44] <GurrenLagannCWP> omg
coding
L521[17:06:52] <GurrenLagannCWP> soo
complex
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L525[17:25:10] <kmath> YouTube - Clint
Memeswood
L526[17:26:35] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Fluburtur: ... why this
L527[17:26:44] <Fluburtur> because is
good
L529[17:27:10] <kmath> YouTube - Feel Dank
Inc.
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L531[17:28:34] <GurrenLagannCWP> i just
real all 300 pages of Outer Planets Mod's thread. And then i read
all 450 pages of Kopernicus
L533[17:29:10] <GurrenLagannCWP>
read*
L534[17:29:34] <GurrenLagannCWP> no
ram-related issues
L535[17:29:38] <GurrenLagannCWP> i'm
ded
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L537[17:31:40] <GurrenLagannCWP> [Quit:
Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned, say
I'm over the hill.] ahahagahaha
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L540[17:33:40] <kmath> YouTube - Big Ben -
Feel Bong Inc. [Complete Version]
L541[17:38:06] <GurrenLagannCWP> there are
soo many ded planet packs that it makes me sad
L542[17:39:18] <GurrenLagannCWP> even
famous ones like Urania and Cerillion are ded
L543[17:48:04] <GurrenLagannCWP> kmath:
....
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L570[20:13:10] <Fluburtur> man
L571[20:13:15] <Fluburtur> the shape of
water is a great movie
L572[20:13:22] <Fluburtur> best I've seen
in the last two days
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