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L10[01:15:52] <TheKosmonaut> BadRocketsCo:
sup
L12[01:18:28] <BadRocketsCo> Did this
thing
L13[01:19:55] <BadRocketsCo> 6x AJ11 in the
first stage
L14[01:22:52] <TheKosmonaut> Nice
L15[01:22:57] <TheKosmonaut> Sounds
expensive
L16[01:23:12] <TheKosmonaut> Rokker: ^ a
member of the glorious RO player base
L17[01:23:41] <BadRocketsCo> It cost like
800 funds.
L18[01:23:51] <BadRocketsCo> Cheaper than
launching a Vanguard
L19[01:26:13] <ConductorCat> ??
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L53[04:45:32] <Fluburtur> parts of my order
has started arriving
L54[04:45:49] <Fluburtur> a timing belt and
tiny needles
L55[04:46:25] <Eddi|zuHause> building a
dirty bomb?
L56[04:46:53] <Fluburtur> that was not the
plan initially but I will have some timing belt left when im done
with it
L57[04:47:00] <Fluburtur> so I guess I
could?
L58[04:47:19] <Fluburtur> I know a nuclear
power plant not too far guess I could go there and borrow some used
fuel
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L68[05:43:56] <Gasher[work]> >return ore
from mun contract, i decide to make a base with drill and icru and
then top stage returns to kerbin with ore and the base stands as
refuelling station
L69[05:44:12] <Gasher[work]> >costs just
like the mission reward
L70[05:44:42] <Gasher[work]> so, starting
rocket was stable, flight was ok - for my manual piloting and
such
L71[05:45:00] <Gasher[work]> but there were
some issues which revealed themselfs later
L72[05:45:40] <Gasher[work]> at first, on
the orbit i found that tanks were full of ore from the very start,
which was made into fuel in flight
L73[05:45:50] <Gasher[work]> well ok, dv
was enough
L74[05:46:45] <Gasher[work]> then turned
out that because of unfortunate setup landing legs were not able to
unfold, so landed sideways, but one of two drills works, so base
idea scrapped, only return for the mission
L75[05:47:07] <Gasher[work]> then the ore
lander hits water and tanks are destroyed
L76[05:47:09] <Gasher[work]> damn
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L95[09:12:05] <Guest26771> hi
L96[09:12:06] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest26771
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L98[09:17:46] <ve2dmn> good morning
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L100[09:18:28] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn:
s/good //
L101[09:19:03] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptop:
same, but I try and tell myself that it will get better soon
L102[09:19:26] *
ve2dmn is plagged with dark thoughts
L103[09:20:00] <UmbralRaptop> It's a
property of mornings.
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L105[09:22:15] *
ve2dmn click-right on morning, select properties, edit coffee
amount, save
L106[09:27:12] <ve2dmn> unrelated, but I
know how you guys LOVE homeopathy... So I was happy when I saw that
is a lawsuit against a product called 'Oscillococcinum'
L108[09:27:51] <ve2dmn> (sorry, acticle
only in french)
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L111[09:38:58] <Fluburtur> nice
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L113[09:43:57] <ve2dmn> I just hope the
chemist and doctors involved in this story aren't going to get
nasty letters
L114[09:46:04] <Gasher> ve2dmn, that
homeopatic stuff has been around for quite some time and noone
minded
L115[09:48:26] <ve2dmn> Gasher: worse.
they try to get rid of it in Phamarcies, but the big chains argued
that it's a Billion-dollar market and they want a piece of it
L116[09:49:51] <Gasher> i
L117[09:50:09] <ve2dmn> (Happenned in
Ontario)
L118[09:50:26] <Gasher> * then i'd have
recommended that pharmaceutic companies to finally try to take a
share of a market of confectionary
L119[09:51:03] <ve2dmn> They do...
L120[09:51:14] <ve2dmn> in this case
'Pharmacies' is the drug stores
L121[09:52:22] <Gasher> em, i feel that it
is cultural thing, here you can only buy those stuff like cough
sweets and no much more
L122[09:52:23] <ve2dmn> They currently
sell Easter chocolates in the next aisle
L123[09:52:28] <Gasher> lol
L124[09:52:38] <Gasher> yeah, seems to be
cultural
L125[09:53:09] <ve2dmn> It's just that the
drug are in a seperate, clearly defined, section
L126[09:53:39] <Gasher> i see, but here
they havn't yet mutated into that
L127[09:54:07] <Gasher> at most there
would be mineral water
L128[09:54:20] <ve2dmn> Right now, it's
like it's a drug store, with a convinient store stuck
together
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L130[09:54:29] <ve2dmn> The biggest
section being the cosmetics
L131[09:54:34] <Gasher> ahhh
L132[09:54:42] <Gasher> right, i saw that
in europe
L133[09:55:10] <Gasher> there are some
drugstores like that here, but it's not that pronounced - medicine
is what is sold the most
L134[09:56:00] <ve2dmn> The local
drugstores are also massive compared to a drug-only drugstore
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L136[10:00:14] <ve2dmn> but yeah, I should
find the original Ontario commission that looked into this issue.
There are a few interesting exchanges in there...
L137[10:01:59] <ve2dmn> like "You
tell me that you know it doesn't work and you still want to sell
it?" -- "Yes. We know it doesn't work, but there is a
market for this and we want to regulate it so people buy quality
placebo and not poison on the streets"
L138[10:03:20] <Gasher> lol
L139[10:03:36] <Gasher> sounds like they
are actually selling some hard drugs
L140[10:06:12] <ve2dmn> I mean... we do
plenty of 'placebo'-like things.
L141[10:06:26] <Arcan> what are we talking
about, US pharmacies? yeah, they're like little convenience stores
with a dispensary attached
L142[10:06:37] <ve2dmn> As long as it's
not pure poison, someone will try to sell it
L143[10:06:46] <ve2dmn> Arcan: Canadiana,
but same
L144[10:08:20] <Arcan> all of the drugs
that may only be taken by the prescription of a doctor are in their
own area (what i am calling a dispensary although i do not know if
that is the right word for it)
L145[10:08:55] <Arcan> the rest of the
building is a store, with an emphasis on common remedies (like
cough syrups etc) and first aid supplies but you can buy food and
cosmetics as well
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L149[10:38:13] <ve2dmn> Arcan: same,
except our sells maple syrup this time of year
L150[10:38:49] <Arcan> that falls under
"food", ve2dmn
L151[10:39:06] <ve2dmn> yes. yes it
does.
L152[10:39:11] <Arcan> although you're
unlikely to find real maple syrup here outside of a real grocery
store
L153[10:39:33] <ve2dmn> For comparison,
how much is it?
L154[10:39:40] <Arcan> most "maple
syrup" is maple flavored sugar syrup
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L156[10:42:51] <ve2dmn> Arcan: commonly
refered to as 'pole syrup' localy
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L158[10:43:34] <Arcan> or corn syrup if
you're really cheap
L159[10:43:53] <Arcan> ve2dmn: real maple
syrup is expensive here, but i don't know how expensive
L160[10:44:02] <ve2dmn> pole, as in
telephone pole, not as in polish
L161[10:44:07] <Arcan> i think probably
around $10/qt
L162[10:44:14] <ve2dmn> qt?
L163[10:44:18] <Arcan> quart
L164[10:44:35] <Arcan> a liter and a quart
are very roughly equal
L165[10:44:37] <Arcan> very roughly
L166[10:44:52] <ve2dmn> 50ml difference I
think
L167[10:44:55] <ve2dmn> Close enough
L168[10:45:34] <ve2dmn> at 10$/qt, it's
probably the clear stuff
L169[10:45:34] <Arcan> so yeah for real
maple syrup i think we pay around $10 a litre in FL
L170[10:45:43] <Arcan> probably closer to
$15
L171[10:45:45] <Arcan> USD, not CAD
L172[10:45:59] <Arcan> it isn't really
clear
L175[10:48:41] <Althego> tomorrow
launch?
L176[10:48:51] <Arcan> ve2dmn: the kind my
family buys is the darkest in the image
L177[10:48:53] <Arcan> grade B
L178[10:49:16] <Althego> darkness beyond
twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows
L179[10:49:36] <ve2dmn> Althego: dragon
slayer?
L180[10:49:48] <Althego> the full
name
L181[10:49:56] <Althego> usually called
dragon slave
L182[10:50:15] <Arcan> what?
L183[10:50:20] <ve2dmn> Anime
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L186[10:51:21] <kmath> YouTube - Slayers
OST I Excellent - Heroic Action Needed part 1 (HQ)
L187[10:52:40] <Althego> next launch seems
to be still in 12.5 hours
L188[10:52:55] <Althego> just before i
arrive to the office
L189[10:52:59] <Arcan> that is the Falcon
9 launch at cape canaveral?
L190[10:53:05] <Althego> yes
L191[10:53:18] <Arcan> i will most likely
be in bed
L192[10:53:24] <ve2dmn> Althego: a night
launch?
L193[10:53:25] <Arcan> nonetheless i will
try to stay up for it
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L195[10:55:58] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy
L196[10:59:31] <Fluburtur> yo
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L198[11:06:19] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
how's your project doing?
L199[11:06:39] <Fluburtur> which
one?
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L201[11:08:28] <Althego> hehe
L202[11:08:40] <Althego> the rocket
plane?
L203[11:08:55] <Fluburtur> im waiting to
get my 3d printer to make rocket nozzle molds
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L205[11:13:16] <BadRocketsCo> Fluburtur:
ah, I see!
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L222[12:06:48] <Draconiator> Wonder what
the SOI of a golf ball is...heh....looking at one I have.
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L224[12:07:52] <Althego> does it have
any?
L225[12:08:00] <Althego> at least not
around earth
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L230[12:14:03] <UmbralRaptop> SOI =
a*(m_secondary/m_primary)^0.4, so…
L231[12:15:44] <UmbralRaptop> Min diameter
is 42.67 mm, max mass is 45.93 grams.
L232[12:16:15] <Althego> but doesnt the
soi of such a small object fall inside the object?
L233[12:17:03] <UmbralRaptop> ;wa
2.1335e-2/(45.93e-3/5.98e24)^0.4
L234[12:17:05] <kmath> UmbralRaptop:
(2.1335×10^(-2))/((45.93×10^(-3))/(5.98×10^24))^0.4: 5.95572... ×
10^8
L235[12:17:14] <Althego> lol
L236[12:17:18] <Althego> that is
longer
L237[12:17:53] <UmbralRaptop> Yes, if
you're within 600,000 km of Earth's center of mass.
L238[12:19:28] <UmbralRaptop> So
Draconiator should make sure his golf balls are held together by
something other than gravity if he wants to compete in terrestrial
games.
L239[12:27:56] <ve2dmn> what is the SOI of
sagittarius *a ?
L240[12:28:33] <Althego> a*
L241[12:28:44] <ve2dmn> ... ^ that
L242[12:32:57] <ve2dmn> 3.6 million solar
masses...
L243[12:33:09] <Althego> hehe
L244[12:33:21] <ve2dmn> That is a lot of
matter
L245[12:33:29] <Althego> lost matter
L246[12:33:38] <ve2dmn> forever
L247[12:33:42] <Althego> not really
L248[12:33:55] <Althego> after a while it
will evaporate
L249[12:34:09] <Althego> and finally
nothing visible will remain in the universe
L250[12:34:18] <Althego> even white
dwarves will cool down
L251[12:34:32] <Althego> the universe will
be cold and dark
L252[12:34:34] <Althego> so asad
L253[12:34:46] <Althego> and without
matter
L254[12:34:58] <ve2dmn> And nothing else
matters
L255[12:36:02] <Althego> another sad thing
that earth will be inhabitable in a few hundred million years
L256[12:36:14] <Althego> despite life
being here for billions of years
L257[12:36:33] <Althego>
*uninhabitable
L258[12:36:39] <Althego> ?
L259[12:36:48] <Althego> wait is this like
the inflammable insanity?
L260[12:36:59] <ve2dmn> unless we manage
to move it further away in the orbit...
L261[12:37:10] <ve2dmn> ... highly, highly
unlikely
L262[12:37:41] <Althego> and the scary
thing, i am really scared of methane hydrates warming up and
releasing methane into the atmosphere
L263[12:37:47] <Althego> we are really
close to that
L264[12:37:55] <ve2dmn> I heard about that
:/
L265[12:38:15] <Althego> that would maybe
kill half of the species
L266[12:38:28] <ve2dmn> Is this the great
filter or the fermi paradox?
L267[12:38:31] <mrcus> Althego: Russian
tundra?
L268[12:38:43] <ve2dmn> mrcus: not just
Russian
L269[12:38:54] <Althego> also bees are
dying
L270[12:38:54] <mrcus> Well, most of it is
there, right? And Canada?
L271[12:39:01] <Althego> without bees we
will not have food
L272[12:39:33] <mrcus> Also read that
increasing sea temperatures might cause methane releases from the
seafloor
L273[12:39:51] <ve2dmn> mrcus: doubtful,
but not impossible
L274[12:40:06] <mrcus> My worst nightmare.
Not only will the climate shit itself, but it will smell like
fart
L275[12:40:08] <ve2dmn> (cuz there is
tonnes of the stuff on the sea bed)
L276[12:40:50] <mrcus> inb4 mods shut down
this conversation because somehow climate change is
"politics" ;)
L277[12:41:06] <Althego> hah you sad the
word previously
L278[12:41:16] <Althego> what you
shouldnt
L279[12:41:19] <Althego> even before
politics
L280[12:41:31] <mrcus> Ah, Russia?
L281[12:41:37] <Althego> no, sh*t
L282[12:41:44] <mrcus> aaaaaah
L283[12:42:01] <mrcus> i keep forgetting
that it's one of the seven dirty words
L285[12:42:24] <ve2dmn> Seyfert galaxy
Centaurus A
L286[12:42:35] <mrcus> The norwegian
equivalent is not a curse word :P
L287[12:42:50] <Althego> you can use crap
i tihink
L288[12:43:28] <ve2dmn> mrcus: it deffers
not only by language, but by culture, too
L289[12:43:32] <ve2dmn> differs*
L290[12:43:53] <mrcus> Yep.
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L292[12:44:47] <wlm> hi :)
L293[12:45:53] <ve2dmn> him
L294[12:46:44] <ve2dmn> wlm: welcome
L295[12:47:24] *
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L296[12:47:42] <mrcus> :'(
L297[12:47:45] <UmbralRaptop> And what
Althego said.
L298[12:47:49] <mrcus> Freedom of
speech!
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L300[12:48:09] <UmbralRaptop> This is not
a public space.
L301[12:48:09] <ve2dmn> mrcus: never
question the power of the mods
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L303[12:48:47] <mrcus> But your argument
that this is not a public space completely breaks down my freedom
of speech argument
L304[12:48:48] <Mathuin> FoS doesn't exist
in cyberspace. Everywhere you are is "owned" by someone,
and they have the right to dictate what behavior is appropriate.
Bah.
L305[12:48:56] <mrcus> So I choose to
completely ignore it
L306[12:48:59] <mrcus> ;)
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L308[12:49:07] <UmbralRaptop> mrf
L309[12:49:25] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, yay
for seyfert galaxies.
L311[12:49:58] <GurrenLagannCWP> Anyone
knows a amazing planet pack that works with Kopernicus 1.3.1-6 and
KSP 1.3.1?
L312[12:50:41] <UmbralRaptop> ve2dmn:
selfie stick minus the stick?
L313[12:50:57] <UmbralRaptop> I guess for
some kinds of vlogging?
L314[12:50:57] <ve2dmn> basically
L316[12:51:23] <GurrenLagannCWP> Guys! I
have a question
L317[12:51:48] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannCWP:
I'm sorry. I can't help you, I've never used Kopernicus
L318[12:52:16] <GurrenLagannCWP> DAMMIT! I
dont know how to make planets in Kopernicus
L319[12:52:27] <mrcus> Me neither, I've
only got it beacuse one of my graphics mods uses it to add rings
around Jool
L320[12:52:58] <Mathuin> GurrenLagannCWP:
The very first hit I get when googling "make planets for
Kopernicus" brings up a tutorial on making planets on the KSP
wiki, using Kopernicus
L321[12:53:27] <GurrenLagannCWP> But its a
old one
L322[12:53:40] <Althego> copper nicus
:)
L323[12:53:47] <mrcus> GurrenLagannCWP:
Did you ask in the Kopernicus thread?
L324[12:53:48] <Mathuin> Ah well. I never
seem to leave Kerbin's SOI. Good luck.
L325[12:54:04] <mrcus> Mathuin: Just burn
straight up for long enough
L326[12:54:27] <mrcus> 5-6k dV should do
it, TWR at sea level around 1.4ish
L327[12:56:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> I dont
have a forum account, just a reddit
L328[12:59:33] <Mathuin> mrcus: lately I
spend more time working on kOS code than actually flying
rockets.
L329[12:59:51] <ve2dmn> ^
L330[13:00:15] <ve2dmn> And we lost folks
to Factorio and Stellaris 2.0
L331[13:01:14] <Althego> can you fly
spaceships in newtonian mechanics in those?
L332[13:02:50] <ve2dmn> no
L333[13:03:01] <Althego> then they are of
no interest to me :)
L334[13:03:27] <ve2dmn> you mean... my GPS
kOS system is not going to work in KSP??? dammit
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L338[13:06:41] <GurrenLagannCWP> Can you
make a planet for me?
L340[13:07:10] <GurrenLagannCWP> Because
OPM wont work for me
L341[13:07:23] <Althego> one punch man
doesnt work for anyone :)
L342[13:08:29] <GurrenLagannCWP> I MEAN
OUTER PLANETS MOD
L343[13:08:44] <Althego> i know
L344[13:08:58] <GurrenLagannCWP> Ok
then
L345[13:09:25] <GurrenLagannCWP> But
please make a planet pack for me?
L346[13:09:32] <Althego> cant
L347[13:09:48] <Althego> at best i could
make a fully functional inertial navigation system
L348[13:10:32] <GurrenLagannCWP> I tried
to make a planet 9 analogue using the wiki code, IT DID NOT
SPAWN
L349[13:11:01] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannCWP:
isn't there good planet pack you could look into?
L350[13:11:26] <GurrenLagannCWP> None
working on Kopernicus 1.3.1-6
L351[13:11:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> And KSP
1.3.1
L352[13:11:37] <ve2dmn> weird...
L353[13:12:09] <GurrenLagannCWP> The most
recent version
L355[13:15:06] <GurrenLagannCWP> Havent
tried
L356[13:15:37] <ve2dmn> cuz if thoses
don't work, then the mod is probably incompatible or installed
incorrectly...
L357[13:16:21] <ve2dmn> AKA: something is
borknen
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L359[13:18:07] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L360[13:18:50] <ve2dmn> Supernovy: good
môrnïng
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L363[13:30:23] <GurrenLagannCWP> No, not
working
L364[13:32:24] <GurrenLagannCWP> ve2dmn:
Nope, rip
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L367[13:32:35] <ve2dmn> sad
L368[13:32:41] <ve2dmn> very sad
L369[13:33:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> So,
what's wrong with my Kopernicus?
L370[13:34:11] <ve2dmn> no idea,
sadly
L371[13:34:29] <ve2dmn> how did you
install it?
L372[13:34:31] <GurrenLagannCWP> I had
installed in the gamedata
L373[13:34:41] <ve2dmn> manually?
L374[13:34:49] <GurrenLagannCWP>
manually
L375[13:35:36] <GurrenLagannCWP> Via
Github
L376[13:35:52] <ve2dmn> is that the only
mod you have?
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L378[13:36:48] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Hyperedit, CustomAsteroids and BetterTimeWarp
L379[13:37:25] <ve2dmn> you could try
installing via CKAN...
L380[13:37:38] <GurrenLagannCWP> WAIT
THERE IS 1.3.1-7
L381[13:37:40] *
Ezriilc winks
L382[13:37:40] <ve2dmn> ...but that would
require uninstall all mods first
L383[13:38:03] <Althego> lol the flute guy
rocks... or rather metals
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L386[13:39:33] <ve2dmn> Ezriilc: still own
Hyperedit?
L387[13:39:46] <Ezriilc> Yep!
L388[13:39:53] <Ezriilc> I'm here to help
if anyone needs anything.
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L390[13:40:08] <ve2dmn> I need to tell you
it's an awesome mod
L391[13:40:18] <ve2dmn> (even if I don't
use it anymore)
L392[13:40:35] <Althego> no, sir sic vs
flat earth again... heh i guess i have to watch it but i almsot
fall asleep
L393[13:42:05] <GurrenLagannCWP>
Kopernicus 1.3.1-7 - "Might Work Now - Edition"
L394[13:42:05] <Althego> but godless
engineer does better idiot commenter impressions
L395[13:42:18] <Althego> (lately also in
the flat earth business)
L396[13:43:15] <ve2dmn> Althego: The earth
is not a sphere!!!
L397[13:43:21] <Althego> earth chan is not
flat
L398[13:43:23] <ve2dmn> it's an oblate
spheroid
L399[13:43:30] <Althego> a bit pear
shaped
L400[13:44:25] <Gasher> pumpkin
shaped
L401[13:44:26] <Althego> as ndt said, and
flat earthers still ridicule that statement, although it is
technically true, even if he explained it right after that it is a
only a tiny fraction change from a sphere
L402[13:44:53] <ve2dmn> Althego: we are
starting to need that precision... so it's relevant
L403[13:45:07] <Althego> in fact i dont
even understand how coordinates are possible on earth
L404[13:45:24] <Gasher> lol
L405[13:45:33] <Althego> you know it would
hard enough with a sphere
L406[13:45:39] <Althego> but earth has
this stupid shape
L407[13:45:43] <Althego> and if you want
coordinates
L408[13:45:45] <Gasher> it seems to be
trivial with a sphere
L409[13:45:46] <ve2dmn> Althego: they are
approximations based on a US reference point
L410[13:45:51] <GurrenLagannCWP> If it
says "Might Work Now - Edition" , it shall work
L411[13:45:51] <Althego> those have to be
also silly shaped
L412[13:46:09] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannCWP:
keep me posted. I'm curious
L413[13:46:09] <Gasher> well plus magnetic
compass deviation...
L414[13:46:15] <Althego> ok, they are
actually models, wgs-84, it is approcimately correct
L415[13:46:15] <Gasher> and local
deviation
L416[13:46:29] <Althego> who needs
magnetic compass anyway
L417[13:46:42] <ve2dmn> Gasher: magnetic
deviation is why Montreal street going from North to South are
East-West named...
L418[13:46:46] <Althego> i love me some
gyrocompass
L419[13:46:51] <Gasher> ve2dmn, lol
L420[13:46:56] <Gasher> we have KMA
here
L421[13:47:04] <Althego> yes in canada you
can have something like 20 degrees difference
L422[13:47:08] <ve2dmn> It's even in the
Wikipedia article...
L423[13:47:08] <Gasher> in the european
part of the country
L425[13:49:01] <GurrenLagannCWP> ve2dmm:
BOOM, not working
L426[13:49:19] <Althego> prboom
L427[13:50:45] <ve2dmn> Gasher there is a
-14.40 magnetic deviation here...
L428[13:51:00] <GurrenLagannCWP> ve2dmn:
BOOM, not working
L429[13:51:06] <GurrenLagannCWP> rip
L430[13:51:30] <ve2dmn> GurrenLagannCWP:
maybe try CKAN? Do a new, seperate install of KSP with that?
L431[13:52:06] <GurrenLagannCWP> ok
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L435[13:54:07] <Gasher> lol
L436[13:54:23] <Gasher> they should have
looked at the sun
L437[13:55:00] <ve2dmn> they looked at a
compass, saw N-E-E instead of N-N-E and decided it was W-E
orientation
L438[13:55:02] <Althego> why have the
rotated one?
L439[13:55:12] <Althego> who navigates in
a city with a magnetic compass?
L440[13:55:25] <ve2dmn> no one...
L441[13:55:38] <ve2dmn> I'm moslty talking
of 400 years ago
L442[13:55:47] <Althego> i remember using
the one where the river is north-south
L443[13:56:48] <Althego> now it is
somewhat nostalgic
L444[13:57:17] <Althego> but i like it
better now that i dont have to travel randomly and can work only 8
hours a day
L445[13:57:25] <Althego> for marginally
less pay
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L447[13:57:54] <GurrenLagannCWP> i never
used CKAN
L448[13:58:11] <ve2dmn> Althego: if you
ever visit, I'll provide the maple syrup
L449[13:58:29] <Althego> i never went even
close to maple syrup
L450[13:58:52] <Fluburtur> it is very
good
L451[13:59:05] <Fluburtur> my uncle that
lives in montreal brings some when he comes
L452[13:59:06] <Althego> people brought
some maple tasting cookies (from store) and i didnt like them very
much, so i never tried maple syrup
L453[13:59:10] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: it is
maple season
L454[13:59:29] <Althego> canada has a
national maple syrup reserve, and i find that really funny
L455[13:59:40] <ve2dmn> Althego: only 1
province...
L456[13:59:50] <ve2dmn> ...but we make 70%
of the world's production
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L458[14:00:35] <APlayer> "Canadian
exports of maple syrup in 2016 were C$ 487 million (about US$ 360
million)"
L459[14:01:05] <APlayer> How much of this
stuff do you guys really drink?!
L460[14:01:24] <ve2dmn> you don't 'drink'
maple syrup...
L461[14:01:25] <Althego> what, who would
drink that?
L462[14:01:33] <Althego> it is like
drinking honey
L463[14:01:37] <ve2dmn> ^
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L465[14:01:55] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: The Kerbals were not the first. They did not
create the Mk1 Command Pod. They did not forge the LV-T30 engines.
They merely found them by the side of the road.
L466[14:02:05] <Althego> hehe
L467[14:02:10] <Althego> they dont even
have roads, man
L468[14:02:22] <Althego> where we are
going, we dont need any roads
L469[14:02:53] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
They have exactly *one* road. It's not that long and it doesn't go
anywhere in particular, but it exists.
L470[14:03:00] <Althego> the only thing
somewhat road like is the runway, but that doesnt lead
anywhere
L471[14:03:11] <Althego> hehe it took me
long to type it
L472[14:03:12] *
Scolar_Visari once again ninjas Althego.
L473[14:03:15] <Althego> but i woke up at
4
L474[14:03:22] <Scolar_Visari> I NEVER
WOKE UP AT ALL
L475[14:03:40] <Scolar_Visari> Sorry,
must've left my Mr. Torgue filter on.
L476[14:03:45] <Althego> no, not woke, i
dont even want to know what woke means
L477[14:04:14] <Scolar_Visari> Well, you
see, when Morpheus offered you the red pill . . .
L478[14:04:54] <ve2dmn> APlayer: but,
yeah, we export tree blood at the rate of millions of litre per
year
L479[14:05:38] <Althego> are the vegans
protesting?
L480[14:05:38] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Is
there some context for that statement? Otherwise, I'd swear trees
don't bleed.
L481[14:05:48] <Althego> maple syrup
L482[14:05:58] <Althego> they have bodily
fluids
L483[14:06:11] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
they don't bleed... we MAKE them bleed
L484[14:06:26] <Althego> it is like chuck
norris
L485[14:06:32] <Althego> kicks the trees
and they bleed
L486[14:06:44] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Those may not be trees.
L487[14:06:54] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
what did you think maple syrup was?
L488[14:07:07] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Sap. Not blood. Unless the trees suffer from Mega Diabetes.
L489[14:07:45] <Althego> i wonder why
nobody utilizes honeydew :) at least ants eat it
L491[14:08:23] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Something about it coming from the butts of aphids?
L494[14:08:38] <Althego> but is is lo of
sugar
L495[14:08:43] <Althego> linked the same
article hoours ago
L496[14:09:01] <Althego> but yes, they
should have their own launch complex
L497[14:09:12] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Aphids are rather tiny.
L498[14:09:27] <ve2dmn> APlayer: that's a
'tourist' bottle
L499[14:09:30] <Althego> but they pump the
sugary thing out of the tree the natural way :)
L500[14:10:04] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Psht. Natural-shmatural.
L501[14:10:06] <Althego> no wait, he does
drink it lol
L502[14:10:11] <APlayer> ve2dmn: So,
locals buy it in barrels?
L503[14:10:19] <Scolar_Visari> You know
what's also natural: Eating animals that are so raw they're still
struggling.
L504[14:10:20] <ve2dmn> close. Cans
L505[14:10:24] <APlayer> LOL
L506[14:10:28] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Like, beer keg cans?
L508[14:10:36] <Scolar_Visari> But with
delicious syrup instead of alcohol?
L509[14:11:04] <APlayer> Hahah
L510[14:11:08] <Scolar_Visari> Oh, and
here I was thinking Canadians used syrup on everything like Romans
with their fermented fish guts.
L511[14:11:32] *
Scolar_Visari still wonders if there's anyone who actually makes
Garum.
L512[14:11:49] <Althego> eh
L513[14:12:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: we
do have Maple-based alcohol, but it's not cheap
L514[14:12:17] <Althego> must be like soy
sauce for japanese
L515[14:12:21] <Scolar_Visari> Fermented
fish *sauce* is a staple in some Asian cusines.
L516[14:12:35] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Stronger flavor and more like a paste.
L517[14:12:50] <Althego> i mean they
probably put it into everything
L518[14:12:57] <Scolar_Visari> I'm . . .
unsure as to how the Romans originally found out how to make garum
without dying from food poisoning.
L519[14:13:05] <Althego> hehe
L520[14:13:09] <Althego> simple
L521[14:13:26] <Althego> they tried until
the people survived, the ones who died never had the opportunity to
share the reciope
L522[14:13:34] <GurrenLagannCWP> I'm
testing with Exoplanets outside Kerbol and Gameslinx's planet
overhoul
L523[14:13:36] <Althego> evolution!
L524[14:13:42] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Culinary Selection.
L525[14:14:07] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
they still used lead in the food...
L526[14:14:15] <Scolar_Visari> Thankfully,
we still have some decent literature on the subject of Roman
cookery so it's possible to make garum today. The same can't be
said with another popular flavoring.
L527[14:14:24] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Lead, in trace amounts, was used as a flavoring for wine.
L528[14:14:29] <ve2dmn> yes
L529[14:15:06] <Althego> and it hurt
them
L530[14:15:08] <Scolar_Visari> Unlike
modern Barbarians, the Romans tended to drink wine with herbs,
spices and other assorted flavorings. Lead was just one of many and
probably the most unfortunate.
L531[14:15:26] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Eh, beats arsenic laden makeup?
L532[14:16:24] *
Scolar_Visari also recalls mercury being used in the production of
felts and the slow, horrifying death that accompanied flint
nappers.
L533[14:16:41] <ve2dmn> or Uranium-laced
bath to cure colds
L534[14:17:00] <Scolar_Visari> Mmmm,
uranium.
L535[14:17:31] <Scolar_Visari>
Plutonium-238 Conditioner will also add a glow to your hair.
Literally.
L536[14:18:28] <Scolar_Visari> Though,
prior to those pesky laws against unsafe working conditions, it
hardly mattered if the materials were toxic given that you had just
as much a chance of dying from a horrifying mechanical
accident.
L537[14:20:26] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: The
building I'm in is full of Asbestos in the walls
L538[14:20:29] <Scolar_Visari>
"What's this young Oliver? Lost a hand to the flying shuttle
did you? Well, that's coming out of your paycheck."
L539[14:20:44] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: So
long as you don't have occassion to flake it off and inhale it,
you're fine.
L540[14:21:12] <Scolar_Visari> Asbestos
fibers are our friends. They insulate us from danger!
L541[14:21:16] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
because of that, any sort of work in the building cost a
fortune
L542[14:21:39] <ve2dmn> The entire
university campus is like that
L543[14:21:55] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Hard to sell facilities like that too.
L544[14:22:26] <ve2dmn> It was the
1960-1970s and the thing was cheap... so they used it
everywhere
L545[14:23:43] <ve2dmn> Dorms, main
building, gym, labs, etc...
L546[14:24:28] <ve2dmn> luckely most of it
is behind a solid wall of concrete, because that was also the
'thing' to use in thoses days.
L547[14:27:51] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Cheap and effective. Who cared if it ran the risk of giving a few
people a horrifying disease!?
L548[14:28:16] *
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cucumber.
L549[14:28:24] <Althego> hehe
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L552[14:30:28] <ve2dmn> We were the
biggest producer in North America. We even have a city named
'Asbestos'
L553[14:30:29] <Althego> hehe
L554[14:31:31] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: Was
it renamed Mesotheliomapolis?
L556[14:32:35] <Scolar_Visari> "At
various times since the decline of asbestos mining, residents and
politicians in the area have proposed changing the town's name due
to its negative connotations."
L557[14:33:12] *
Scolar_Visari will write a tasteful latter to the city of Asbestos
to rename itself Mesotheliomapolis.
L558[14:33:47] <Althego> what is
that
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L560[14:34:29] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
It's a cancer that can be caused by asbestos.
L561[14:34:40] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
make it in french. They can't speak english
L562[14:34:40] <Althego> eh
L563[14:34:51] <Althego> time extender
fuel level is zero. thread state changed to sleep
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L565[14:34:56] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Can't? Or won't?
L566[14:35:12] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: in
that case, can't
L567[14:35:37] <Scolar_Visari> Alright
then . . . Mésothéliomeville
L568[14:35:48] <Scolar_Visari> That sounds
more festive. It'll be great for the tourist sector.
L569[14:36:19] <ve2dmn> It's almost a
ghost town
L570[14:37:41] <Scolar_Visari> Perfect!
It'll be refashioned into a living museum.
L571[14:38:33] <Scolar_Visari> Though
perhaps I should start with Coalcity and Mercurytown first?
L572[14:39:29] <KrazyKrl> The Mercurytown
fisheries sponsors the local bass fishing competition. Sounds
legit.
L573[14:40:39] <KrazyKrl> I really
shouldn't joke... I can't fish out of the local rivers because they
are contaminated with dioxin.
L574[14:41:05] <Scolar_Visari>
"Should I be concerned about the silvery eyes on the
fish?" "Oh, no! Absolutely not! Perfectly safe for human
consumption."
L575[14:41:39] <ve2dmn> KrazyKrl: sad. Our
are mostly contamined by DHMO
L576[14:41:48] <KrazyKrl> PPM actually
stands for "Percent, per mercury"
L577[14:43:00] <Scolar_Visari> Nonsense!
It's actually Parts Per Meh.
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L581[14:43:35] <ve2dmn> It's "Party
per Meth-head"
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L583[14:43:53] <KrazyKrl> Puddin' Pops per
Massacre?
L584[14:45:18] *
Scolar_Visari ponders opening up Radiumville if Coalcity and
Mercurytown are successful.
L585[14:45:41] <Scolar_Visari> Radium
paintbrush shaped lollipops will be all the rage!
L586[14:46:09] <ve2dmn> there's a few
cities named 'Hell'... so I guess named don't matter that
much
L587[14:46:12] <KrazyKrl>
Totallynotbuiltonancientburialgroundsburg?
L588[14:46:33] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That'll be the location of an afterlife themepark.
L589[14:46:53] <KrazyKrl> Mr. Bones Wild
Ride Memorial Park.
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L591[14:47:35] <Scolar_Visari> I mean, who
HASN'T looked at a Hieronymus Bosch triptych and thought,
"gee, that'd make one swell roller coaster ride!"
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L593[14:49:31] <Scolar_Visari> Of course,
I can't guarantee patrons will retain any of their sanity after
getting off. If they get off at all.
L594[14:49:54] <KrazyKrl> Sanity is
relative.
L595[14:49:56] *
Scolar_Visari could probably do this in Planet
Coaster.
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L597[14:50:48] <Scolar_Visari> KrazyKrl:
Yeah, but I think, "so unspeakably terrifying that I clawed my
own eyes out" is at least one or two standard deviations from
the norm.
L598[14:50:52] <KrazyKrl> And the ammount
of sanity that is apparent in an object is actually inverse to the
velocity apparent to you.
L599[14:54:54] <Scolar_Visari> As a
reminder to those who doubt the validity of radiometric dating:
Significant alterations to the decay rate of a given sample are
guaranteed to destroy it or require alterations the Universe's
source code.
L600[14:57:34] *
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assembly language.
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L602[14:59:32] <KrazyKrl> You COULD... but
wouldn't it be easier to detect something SO HARD that it creates a
black hole?
L603[15:07:00] <ve2dmn> I still doubt that
Radiometry will help me find a mate
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L605[15:20:12] *
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L607[15:32:04] <SnoopJeDi> ...I never
really considered Juno's name before, but *frick* I love space
poets.
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L610[15:47:55] <oren> SnoopJeDi: guess who
Ganymede is
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L612[15:48:44] <SnoopJeDi> Zeus, you
crazy
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L614[15:53:29] <UmbralRaptor> I want to
say that we've finally found enough moons to make the naming scheme
run out.
L615[15:57:05] <ve2dmn> if we find a
quasi-moon do we name it Hercules or Achilles ?
L616[15:58:21] <ve2dmn> (because if it's a
quasi-moon, it's probably gonna come from the asteroids... either
the trojan camp or...)
L618[15:59:45] <ve2dmn> I know...
but...
L619[16:00:01] <ve2dmn> And TIL that
'Plutino' is a thing
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L621[16:00:25] <UmbralRaptor> Plutino,
twotino, cubewano
L622[16:02:03] <ve2dmn> is it Pluto,
Charon or the pair that is in a 2:3 resonance with Neptune?
L623[16:02:35] <UmbralRaptor> The
pair.
L624[16:03:58] <ve2dmn> And if Pluto has a
quasi-moon, I guess it would mean that, it too, is in a 3:2
resonance
L626[16:09:20] <ve2dmn> It still blows my
mind that was have ACTUAL high-def picture of Pluto and that the
thing thing actually worked
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L628[16:13:50] <ve2dmn> I wonder if New
Horizon will survive the Y2038 bug
L629[16:13:52] <UmbralRaptor> A 700 kg
grand piano zipping past a dwarf planet at 14 km/s
L630[16:14:51] <SnoopJeDi>
"cubewano" lmao
L631[16:16:51] <ve2dmn> SnoopJeDi: it
sounds like penguin poop
L632[16:17:04] <SnoopJeDi> cubeguano
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L634[16:18:10] <ve2dmn> time to head home,
sit back and lose all my evening on Mario Odessey, Stellaris and/or
KSP
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L636[16:19:08] <ve2dmn> Then miss the
midnight launch while I contemplate 'what the hell am I doing with
my life' while trying to fall asleep
L637[16:19:20] <ve2dmn> (Being an adult is
hard)
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L639[16:33:34] <StCypher> ve2dmn, a really
trippy, fun thing to also do is download a mars map for VR.
L640[16:33:55] <StCypher> it's not 3D,
just a lot of stitched photos as you go along, but it's crazy to
think you're virtually walking on the surface of mars.
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L646[16:46:17] <Draconiator> hmmmm....I
wonder if it's possible to do mid-air refueling in KSP....I mean it
would be but might be insanely hard, you'd probably have to use
Mechjeb.
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L650[17:02:45] <StCypher> btw, i am going
to be getting into KSP again.. but with mods. any recommendations
for mods?
L651[17:04:39] <Mat2ch> KER, Mechjeb,
Navyfish Docking thing
L652[17:13:43] <StCypher> thank
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L654[17:38:22] <ve2dmn> StCypher:
VR?
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L673[19:16:17] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: I just looked at the Universe's source code.
As it turns out, The Secret of Gravity will require a major
expansion.
L676[19:26:24] <Scolar_Visari> That first
stage appears to have something on its face.
L677[19:34:40] <FltAdmVonSpiz> ve2dmn:
would New Horizons have enough processing power to fall victim to
it?
L678[19:35:08] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also surely
a spaceprobe would use Mission-Elapsed-Time for all its internal
dates and times
L679[19:35:57] <Scolar_Visari> Ah, but
they use the Julian Calendar!
L680[19:38:41] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also I know
geosync solar power is often talked about
L681[19:38:52] <FltAdmVonSpiz> but has
anyone ever modelled using a mirror at geosync to get near
permanent sunlight at some location
L682[19:38:56] <FltAdmVonSpiz> then
putting the power station on the surface
L683[19:38:56] <ve2dmn> I haven not check
what OS the probe runs and if it has the bug
L684[19:41:09] <Scolar_Visari>
FltAdmVonSpiz: There were Russian experiments with giant, unfolding
mirrors at several points in history.
L685[19:41:21] <Scolar_Visari> Albeit for
lower orbits.
L686[19:41:29] <ve2dmn> There's also that
Futurama episode...
L688[19:43:26] <Scolar_Visari> Also:
Depending on the particular concept, some forms of Solar Power
Satellites use mirrors to reflect concentrated Sunlight on to
photovoltaics or boilers.
L689[19:44:45] <Raptop> Scolar_Visari:…
did your join line include continuity with your previous parting
one?
L690[19:45:07] <FltAdmVonSpiz> yeah
L691[19:45:13] <FltAdmVonSpiz> just the
mass requirements SPS system are just absurd
L692[19:45:20] <FltAdmVonSpiz> even with
LEO only launches with orbital tugs
L693[19:45:22] <FltAdmVonSpiz> its
infeasible
L695[19:45:41] <Scolar_Visari> Raptop:
Yes. I only 'reset' them after 24 hours.
L696[19:45:48] <Raptop> hm
L697[19:45:58] <Scolar_Visari>
FltAdmVonSpiz: Most don't actually involve launching all but the
most complicated parts from Earth.
L698[19:46:13] <FltAdmVonSpiz> eh I
question the feasibility of space fabrication of solar panels in my
lifetime
L699[19:46:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz> silicon
foundries are hard enough to build on earth
L700[19:46:31] <Scolar_Visari> Hence the
use of mirrors, rather than photovoltaics, as they are easier to
produce in situ from asteroidal (which is now an adjectives) and
Lunar regolith.
L701[19:47:01] <FltAdmVonSpiz> have to use
PV at some point though, as I hate to imagine how much allt he
mercury for those boilers would mass
L702[19:47:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and there
is none available in near earth space that isn't on the Earth's
surface
L703[19:47:20] <Scolar_Visari> Now if you
can produce those spiffy unfolding Solar power Jump Sails from
Battletech, than launching from Earth might be practical.
L704[19:47:45] <Scolar_Visari>
FltAdmVonSpiz: What? Why mercury? Most proposed since the 70's use
Brayton Cyclers with helium and another inert gas.
L705[19:47:56] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the
traditional boiler cycle for space use is mercury
L706[19:48:17] <FltAdmVonSpiz> brayton
cycle doesn't have a boiler :P having a boiler by defintion makes
it a rankine cycle
L707[19:48:21] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, er,
back when von Braun was alive. Even bimodal NTRs would use Brayton
Cyclers.
L708[19:49:13] <Scolar_Visari> Though if
piping mass is not a concern, you could use water as is the case on
Earth.
L709[19:49:41] <FltAdmVonSpiz> the
dimensions of a water cycle are problematic though
L710[19:50:10] <Scolar_Visari> It'd be a
long term thing if you have serious industry. Water being fairly
common.
L711[19:50:12] <FltAdmVonSpiz> carbon
dioxide cycle might be useful on orbit since helium is
expensive
L712[19:51:28] *
Scolar_Visari ponders the reality that graphene Solar panels could,
in actuality, be Jump Sails.
L713[19:52:34] <FltAdmVonSpiz> unless you
could get specific mass of solar space power below a kiloton per
gigawatt, it ain't going nowhere
L714[19:52:35] <Scolar_Visari> Now all we
need is K-F Drives and we'll be all set.
L715[19:53:06] <Scolar_Visari>
FltAdmVonSpiz: That's what lasers are for.
L716[19:53:17] <FltAdmVonSpiz> how does a
laser help that?
L717[19:53:34] <Scolar_Visari> Blinding
investors.
L718[19:54:34] <Scolar_Visari>
Alternatively: The mirrors themselves need not be very solid. Some
concepts for Solar Thermal Propulsion involve inflated parabolic
concentrating mirrors.
L719[19:54:46] <Scolar_Visari> Balloon
power.
L721[19:59:45] <ve2dmn> I went down the
rabbit hole of trying to find info on New Horizon OS...
L722[20:00:01] <ve2dmn> My best guess are
VXworks and Nucleus RTOS
L723[20:01:33] <Scolar_Visari> All
rewritten to consider Pluto and Charon as planets, no doubt.
L724[20:02:14] <ve2dmn> in the case of
VXworks, the time object is 'secs since Epoch'
L725[20:02:59] <ve2dmn> (at least that
what it returns)
L726[20:03:10] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Wait a second . . . They're counting the time since their last
epoch advancement from Empire Earth?
L727[20:04:11] <ve2dmn> well
1970-01-01
L728[20:04:20] <Raptop> ve2dmn: I get the
impression that New Horizons will have insufficient power in the
mid-late 2020s.
L729[20:04:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also im
annoyed that companies dont publish price lists properly any
more
L730[20:04:33] <FltAdmVonSpiz> damn
commercial sensitivity
L731[20:04:47] <FltAdmVonSpiz> causing
problems for my dissertation :(
L732[20:05:14] <ve2dmn> Raptop: something
like that, but it could still run for a while on low power
L733[20:05:26] <ve2dmn> Just, not
everything
L734[20:06:04] <Scolar_Visari> Raptop:
Supposedly, it will still have enough power for communication with
Earth until the 30s.
L735[20:06:21] <Raptop> hm
L736[20:06:22] <ve2dmn> at bits per
seconds
L737[20:07:20] <Raptop> The Voyagers are
sending back data at those rates now.
L738[20:07:24] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That's enough for some online games, I guess.
L739[20:08:01] <FltAdmVonSpiz> AoE2 is
designed for a few hundred bits per second I believe
L740[20:08:10] <Scolar_Visari> I was
thinking earlier.
L741[20:08:20] <Scolar_Visari> Like, those
games you played on the primitive internet.
L742[20:08:29] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
Ultima Online?
L743[20:08:33] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Simpler.
L744[20:08:33] <FltAdmVonSpiz> also isnt
the power thing just a function of the target receding more than
anything
L745[20:08:42] <FltAdmVonSpiz> so can't we
compensate by building ever more absurd antennas
L746[20:08:54] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I wonder if
you could lock it up with the SKA
L747[20:09:13] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
pre-1997?
L748[20:09:23] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Yeah. The old browser games.
L749[20:09:39] *
Scolar_Visari considers contracting ComStar to tack HPGs on to old
probes.
L750[20:09:43] <ve2dmn> Barren Realm
Elite?
L751[20:10:07] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That's the ticket!
L752[20:10:19] <Scolar_Visari> Couldn't
put a name on that one.
L753[20:10:31] <Raptop> SKA is rather long
wavelengths, right?
L754[20:10:31] <ve2dmn> or BRE for those
who played
L756[20:11:04] *
Raptop knows that the VLA was used for some craft.
L757[20:12:30] <Scolar_Visari> Perhaps
Mars Rover 2020 can play better online games?
L758[20:13:15] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
thoses were the days...
L759[20:13:36] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
actually stuck with C&C myself
L760[20:13:46] <Scolar_Visari> Starcraft
being for proles.
L761[20:13:50] <ve2dmn> lol
L762[20:13:56] <ve2dmn> TA FTW!
L763[20:14:14] <Scolar_Visari> Homeworld
and Grount Control above all!
L764[20:14:26] <ve2dmn> +1 for
Homeworld
L765[20:14:43] <ve2dmn>
"Mothership"
L766[20:14:56] <ve2dmn> (you heard her
voice didn't you?)
L767[20:15:02] *
Scolar_Visari still recalls the hesitant voices of ships ordered to
force-fire on friendlies.
L768[20:15:08] <Scolar_Visari> "Uh .
. . You sure?"
L769[20:15:27] <Scolar_Visari> "OF
COURSE I'M SURE THAT'S WHY I HELD DOWN CONTROL!"
L770[20:15:42] <Raptop> Voyagers xmit at
8.4 GHz (or 2.3 for engineering data). jVLA can observe at 1-50
GHz…
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L772[20:15:55] <ve2dmn> "Everyone is
gone... Karak is burning..."
L773[20:15:56] <Raptop> Scolar_Visari:
Hah!
L774[20:16:10] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
did, prior to Windows 10, have all of my OS sound effects ripped
directly from Homeworld's audio.
L775[20:16:22] <ve2dmn> :)
L776[20:16:51] <Scolar_Visari> That was a
lot of trouble, but I suppose I do need to match my Kharak desktop
background.
L777[20:17:18] <Raptop> "The SKA will
provide continuous frequency coverage from 50 MHz to
14 GHz in the first two phases of its construction. A third
phase will then extend the frequency range up to
30 GHz"
L778[20:17:20] <Raptop> o_O
L779[20:17:30] <Raptop> Guess it could
work.
L780[20:18:00] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I
kind of felt angry when I warped into that mission where the
Bentusi are under attack
L781[20:18:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz> SKA is one
of those insane projects
L782[20:18:19] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: You
see, the audio files for Homeworld were unhelpfully labeled as
numbers, so finding a particular sound effect meant listening to
hundreds of different files.
L783[20:18:24] <FltAdmVonSpiz> that
teaches us just how ridiculous electronics are now
L784[20:18:31] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Homeworld
was a glorious game
L785[20:18:35] <FltAdmVonSpiz> lOng may it
endure
L786[20:18:39] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
felt angrier when I had to deal with Kadeshi Swarmers.
L787[20:18:40] <FltAdmVonSpiz> Deserts of
Kharak was fun too
L788[20:18:53] <ve2dmn> Garden... of
Kadesh
L789[20:19:08] *
Scolar_Visari has an Orca named Garden of Kadesh.
L790[20:19:31] <Scolar_Visari> Which
reminds me, that'll probably get more use now that bulk passenger
missions actually take up an entire ship at a time now.
L791[20:19:37] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: I
managed to capture a full group of 20 swamers the first time I
played
L792[20:19:47] <ve2dmn> it took a LOT of
work
L793[20:20:28] <Scolar_Visari> Psht,
strike craft are obsolete after the Kadeshi missions. But those
quad-ion cannon frigates . . .
L794[20:20:50] <Raptop> ALMA does 31 to
1000 GHz, so that's out.
L795[20:21:00] <ve2dmn> There are usefull
for 1 mission. That abandonned alien ship
L796[20:21:06] <ve2dmn> they*
L797[20:21:13] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
With the handy Taiidani Missile Destroyer!
L798[20:21:18] <FltAdmVonSpiz>
Scolar_Visari: strike craft are glorious
L799[20:21:20] <FltAdmVonSpiz> especially
in skirmish
L800[20:21:22] <ve2dmn> :D
L801[20:21:32] <FltAdmVonSpiz> I just loed
to jump on top of the enemy with carriers and support
frigates
L802[20:21:35] <FltAdmVonSpiz> and unload
hundreds of fighters
L803[20:21:40] <Scolar_Visari> Nothing
says, "Go away strikecraft" like a missile destroyer
firing off 16 rounds of insta-kill, homing goodness.
L804[20:21:43] <FltAdmVonSpiz> in their
resource operatino
L805[20:22:08] <Scolar_Visari>
FltAdmVonSpiz: By the time you got hundreds of fighters, the enemy
could probably get a gravwell generator up and running.
L806[20:22:29] <FltAdmVonSpiz> gravwell
generators never seemed to be that useful
L807[20:22:47] <ve2dmn> by the time I got
to the last mission, my 'wall formation' of frigates was too big to
see outside of the map
L808[20:23:06] <Scolar_Visari> They're far
down the techtree but absolutely lethal against people who try
pulling strike craft shenanigans off in late Mothership
games.
L809[20:23:29] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Especially with those nlips on in vanilla Homeworld.
L810[20:24:21] <ve2dmn> I had capture that
entire 'ball' of ion frigate in the 3rd to last mission
L811[20:24:27] <ve2dmn> 150, I
think...
L812[20:24:42] <ve2dmn> To the point where
the engine refuse another capture
L813[20:24:49] <Scolar_Visari> Murderous
on those frame rates back when Homeworld was new.
L814[20:26:43] <Scolar_Visari> Hrm . . . I
*do* have some spare Oblivion drone sound effects.
L815[20:27:19] <ve2dmn> I still have my
GOTY Homeworld CD
L816[20:27:45] <Scolar_Visari> Same here.
Though I think I lost the soundtrack CD.
L817[20:27:54] <Scolar_Visari> Still have
the original manual plus the Prima guide.
L818[20:28:19] <ve2dmn> I still have my
original box of Outpost 1
L819[20:28:28] <Scolar_Visari> I take it
there's a meter of dust on it?
L820[20:29:11] <ve2dmn> yep
L821[20:29:24] <ve2dmn> it sits next to
the Simcity floppy edition
L822[20:29:35] <Scolar_Visari> Let's see .
. . Still have Metal Fatigue, the original (and justifiably unused)
Diablo 1 . . . Return to Zork!
L823[20:30:10] <Scolar_Visari> Though I
don't have the Return to Zork manual, so all my playthroughs
prematurely end at the schoolhouse during the pop quiz.
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L825[20:31:02] <ve2dmn> I have most of my
old stuff, but I got rid of the boxes over the years
L826[20:31:46] <ve2dmn> Still have the
original boxes for Fallout, Simcity, C&C, Outpost, Outpost 2
and a few others
L828[20:32:08] <ve2dmn> I think also Xwing
VS Tie
L829[20:32:44] <Scolar_Visari> Outpost 2:
Extinction is not an option. Outpost 1: A working game is not an
option.
L830[20:32:55] <ve2dmn> lol
L831[20:33:10] <Alanonzander> lol
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L835[20:34:36] <ve2dmn> There is a way to
'win' the game...
L836[20:34:47] <ve2dmn> ... but it's
clearly unfinished :(
L837[20:35:21] <Scolar_Visari> Alas, maybe
a successful Survive Mars will mean Outpost 3: This time it works
and isn't C&C in space.
L838[20:36:20] <ve2dmn> I doubt it will be
similar...
L839[20:36:39] *
Scolar_Visari cautiously glances at Aven Colony.
L840[20:36:50] <ve2dmn> Is it good?
L841[20:37:01] <Scolar_Visari> Hence
cautious glance, rather than green with envy.
L842[20:37:10] <Scolar_Visari> The latter
gets me a restraining order.
L843[20:38:26] <Scolar_Visari> We finally
did get our Dungeon Keeper sequels, so who's to say?
L844[20:39:00] <ve2dmn> yeah
L845[20:39:13] <ve2dmn> too many good
titles for me to play them all
L846[20:40:41] <Scolar_Visari> That's why
you need to do what Tom Cruise did in Edge of Tomorrow and have an
Alpha bleed on you so you can repeat days and play forever.
L847[20:41:27] <ve2dmn> I don't want to
replay from the tutorial... I want my saves!!
L848[20:41:45] <Scolar_Visari> I didn't
say it'd be perfect!
L849[20:42:24] <Raptop> The Dungeon Keeper
sequel was clearly the result of a monkey's paw.
L851[20:43:12] <Scolar_Visari> Raptop:
Amusingly, there are *two* Dungeon Keeper successor series.
L852[20:44:35] <Scolar_Visari> Richard
Ridings, the narrator for War of Overworld, was also the narrator
for the original Dungeon Keeper games!
L853[20:44:39] <Raptop> I only heard about
the one that was online only, and had microtransactions in lieu of
strategy,
L855[20:46:20] <Scolar_Visari> Raptop:
That's funny, too, given that Dungeons came out before the onlien
only Dungeon Keeper.
L856[20:46:30] <ve2dmn> I want an Evil
Genius sequel
L857[20:47:17] <Scolar_Visari> That's
happening.
L858[20:47:24] <ve2dmn> I know
L860[20:47:31] <ve2dmn> no news in 6 month
though
L861[20:47:50] *
Scolar_Visari still has a digital only copy of Evil
Genius
L862[20:48:03] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That happens to a lot of, er, lower budget games.
L863[20:48:28] <ve2dmn> as long as it's
good, I can wait
L864[20:48:42] <ve2dmn> I don't want
another DF-9
L865[20:49:23] <Scolar_Visari> I'd settle
for a mod friendly Evil Genius 1 to be honest.
L868[20:54:40] <Scolar_Visari> Though the
hull masses are wrong. The Type 9 lost a lot of mass.
L869[20:56:17] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari:
need to add those to the MASSIVE chart with all the ships from all
the series
L871[20:57:54] <Scolar_Visari> However, a
lot of media (particularly games, such as Homeworld) don't have
stated ship lengths or obvious human features, making size
comparisons quite difficulty.
L873[20:58:48] <Scolar_Visari> Movies made
prior to CGI technology also tended to have ships different in size
from shot to shot ala Star Wars.
L874[20:59:05] <ConductorCat> :3
L875[20:59:15] <Scolar_Visari> To say
nothing of mockups not being quite as big on the outside as their
interiors would suggest ala the Millenium Falcon and the APC from
Aliens.
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L877[21:01:43] <Scolar_Visari> Or, in some
cases, canon literature would give you dimensions completely
inconsistent with that of other media. The Executor-class Star
Destroyers from the movies, for instance, was obviously larger than
the puny sizes given in early RPG literature.
L878[21:02:51] <ve2dmn> table top game
with 6side dices?
L879[21:04:18] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: I
just know they never saw the movies . . .
L881[21:10:38] <UmbralRaptor> Isn't sure
what sort of tank that is, so I'm going to assume a Bolo Mk
I.
L882[21:11:28] <Scolar_Visari> It's a tank
for Star Citizen, hence the full interior.
L883[21:11:56] <ve2dmn> Now that you
remind me, I think I have both Star Citizen and Elite
Dangerous...
L884[21:12:02] <UmbralRaptor> Uh
L885[21:12:28] <ve2dmn> well... I *backed*
Star Citizen
L886[21:12:34] <UmbralRaptor> I have
questions about how it will be used.
L887[21:12:51] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: A lot of ground vehicles are already offered. I
assume it would be similar to SRV actions in Elite.
L888[21:13:02] <Scolar_Visari> Which, by
the way, could use more surface vehicles.
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L892[21:13:23] *
Scolar_Visari wants to drop off MBTs in a Federal Gunboat while
under fire from a ground installation.
L893[21:13:46] <UmbralRaptor> If I'd had
real employment when Star Citizen was pitched, I might have thrown
embarrassing amounts of money at it. >_>;;
L894[21:14:04] <Scolar_Visari>
Draconiator: I tried to find the paper for that discovery, but it
was behind a paywall.
L895[21:14:23] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Would you pilot a Javelin-class destroyer called the
Umbral Raptor?
L896[21:14:37] <UmbralRaptor> Uh
L897[21:14:57] <UmbralRaptor> Is it at all
equivalent to the Wing Commander 1 Raptor?
L898[21:14:58] <Scolar_Visari> Complete
with a mission patch of a shadowy dromeosaur atop its prey.
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L900[21:15:29] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: IIRC, the paper is on arXiv.
L901[21:15:44] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Why did you not say so the other day!?
L902[21:15:45] <UmbralRaptor> This sounds
like an excellent mission patch.
L903[21:15:54] <UmbralRaptor> uh
L904[21:15:54] <Scolar_Visari> Also: It's
one of the more ridiculous ships one can purchase.
L905[21:16:51] <UmbralRaptor> wait, I'm
misremembering.
L906[21:17:04] *
UmbralRaptor ?? nature
L907[21:17:30] <Scolar_Visari> As I
thought. None can match my Google Fu.
L909[21:18:53] <Scolar_Visari> I like the
thought of a #KSPOfficial capital ship in SC.
L910[21:19:21] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: The
Kerb-your-enthusiasm ?
L911[21:20:42] <Scolar_Visari> Too
obvious.
L912[21:20:56] <Scolar_Visari> The
Jebediah B. Kerman.
L913[21:21:23] <ve2dmn> The B stands for
nothing
L914[21:22:01] <Scolar_Visari> "But
in every Kerbals heart in all the space program shines the name,
Jebediah B. Kerman."
L915[21:22:30] <Scolar_Visari> Got it to
actually match the song, noice!
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L917[21:24:39] *
Scolar_Visari goes off to parody the entire Ballad of Rodger Young
with Jebediah Kerman blowing himself up (by accident, we think) in
the name of the Kerbal Space Program.
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L924[22:18:06] <Glass|phone> "so if
japan is over, where are you gonna flee to?" -
"china" - "taiwan" - "mars"
L925[22:18:09] <Glass|phone> found the
elon
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L930[22:49:15] <ConductorCat> But the
roach people live there.
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L935[23:34:26] <Malachite> see you later,
space cowboy
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L937[23:40:56] <BadRocketsCo> Hullo
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