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L2[00:06:47] <Gasher[work]> oh well. they published the preliminary results of that aircraft crash that happened here few days ago. Long story short - the crew did not turn on pitot tubes heating. Of all thre of them.
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L4[00:07:36] <Althego> haha
L5[00:13:11] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUFNgLrykc
L6[00:13:11] <kmath> YouTube - The Smallest Rocket - The SS-520-5
L7[00:15:11] <Althego> several days old
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L9[00:25:23] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJWQoEMJEBw - I think someone went crazy lol
L10[00:25:24] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - 109 KILOTON Launch Vehicle! | Full stock | No auto-struts | No part-clipping
L11[00:28:25] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: not gonna lie, I question Russian aviation
L12[00:28:28] <Rokker> like in general
L13[00:28:35] <Rokker> maybe Russia wasn't meant to fly
L14[00:29:35] <Gasher[work]> why lol
L15[00:30:06] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: you guys celebrated 70 years of the An-2 by crashing one in front of a ton of spectators
L16[00:30:13] <Gasher[work]> it's not that they all started falling at once
L17[00:30:21] <Gasher[work]> Rokker, ha.
L18[00:30:45] <Gasher[work]> maybe it was a sign that it should be cycled to something better
L19[00:30:57] <Gasher[work]> or that you should not allow old people to pilot
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L21[00:31:59] <Gasher[work]> Rokker, http://www.heraldextra.com/news/three-die-in-helicopter-crash-accident-in-parleys-canyon-kills/article_12ef415e-44c7-5c9e-a084-032ff28e7d9b.html
L22[00:32:04] <Rokker> Gasher[work]: I'm not sure how I feel about that composite thing
L23[00:32:08] <Gasher[work]> MOOSE RESCUE MISSION
L24[00:32:30] <Rokker> helicopters are an abomination against god
L25[00:34:13] <Gasher[work]> i think the permission for flight is given by some other authorities
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L32[01:29:13] <Einarr> taniwha: You need to up your launcher game, sir (thanks to Draconiator for finding this). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJWQoEMJEBw
L33[01:29:14] <kmath> YouTube - KSP - 109 KILOTON Launch Vehicle! | Full stock | No auto-struts | No part-clipping
L34[01:30:22] <taniwha> crikey!
L35[01:30:46] <taniwha> hasn't launched yet
L36[01:30:55] <taniwha> heh, dwarfs the VAB
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L38[01:33:55] <taniwha> Einarr: heh, skyscraper :)
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L52[02:41:20] <Einarr> Wasn't there a way to toggle the heat overlay?
L53[02:42:27] <Einarr> Ah, there it is.
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L64[03:56:04] <spoutnik16> hi, i'm reinstalling ksp after a few year without playing
L65[03:56:13] <spoutnik16> what version is now cool if i want to have a shitload of addons ?
L66[03:57:50] <GlassYuri> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV60eXsVQAAwZq4.jpg "group of 380 million people steals 3 yen in cash"
L67[03:58:04] <spoutnik16> and is it now cool to play in 64 bits ?
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L69[04:01:10] <Althego> for a long time now
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L95[05:45:48] <Fluburtur> so someone is claiming each of those scales is only a nanometer wide but eh
L96[05:45:50] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/752c925960d352a522d4eaff1fdeb52d/tumblr_p441fzafbH1u0zq0uo2_540.jpg
L97[05:45:52] <Fluburtur> doubt
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L103[06:16:49] <UmbralRaptor> If that's an insect head and not a weird molecule, they confused micro with nano.
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L107[06:32:46] <Guest44429> hello everyone
L108[06:33:32] <Guest44429> hello ?
L109[06:35:32] <Althego> hi
L110[06:35:32] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego
L111[06:35:34] <Althego> argh
L112[06:35:42] <Althego> can we turn this feature off?
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L125[07:18:08] <Einarr> Althego: Which feature?
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L131[07:49:04] <Fluburtur> hope I will get enough money on my bday to get a 3d printer
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L133[07:52:23] <APlayer> Get a DIY kit
L134[07:52:45] <Fluburtur> nah I want a cr10 mini
L135[07:52:59] <Fluburtur> it's on promo right now for 250€ which is very decent
L136[07:53:06] <APlayer> Those are cheaper, as far as I have seen from friends just as good, and probably fun to assemble. Also, IKEA.
L137[07:53:07] <Fluburtur> and I don't want to spend two weeks making it work
L138[07:53:32] <Fluburtur> like I wouldn't mind a diy kit usually but I want something that works well
L139[07:53:46] <APlayer> Well, then
L140[07:54:03] <Fluburtur> https://www.banggood.com/Creality-3D-CR-10-Mini-DIY-3D-Printer-Kit-Support-Resume-Print-300220300mm-Large-Printing-Size-p-1201287.html?rmmds=mywishlist&cur_warehouse=CN
L141[07:56:29] <APlayer> "8. Passed lots of quality certification."
L142[07:56:37] <APlayer> Once more, KSP in a nutshell :P
L143[07:56:46] <Fluburtur> yeah broken english
L144[07:56:51] <Fluburtur> gotta love it
L145[07:58:00] <APlayer> When I see such a sentence, I can't help but picture someone reading a test protocol, totally ignoring it and just crossing everything off the checklist
L146[07:58:23] <Fluburtur> heh
L147[08:07:46] <GlassFragments> APlayer, I assume that sentence was gramatically correct in chinese
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L149[08:15:35] <darsie> How much delta-v can a KSP rocket have?
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L151[08:16:50] <Truga> iirc absolute max is about 17k?
L152[08:17:06] <darsie> 17 km/s?
L153[08:17:09] <Truga> yeah
L154[08:17:21] <Truga> unless you go ion
L155[08:17:34] <darsie> multi stage?
L156[08:17:49] <Truga> yeah
L157[08:18:18] <darsie> ok, I'll try 20 km/s without ion.
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L163[08:28:47] <APlayer> Why would 17 km/s be max?
L164[08:29:17] <APlayer> Whatever rocket you have, add another tank and you increased dv
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L169[08:34:08] <darsie> Adding tanks asymptotically approaches max dv.
L170[08:34:11] <Truga> ^
L171[08:34:16] <Truga> rocket equation is a thing
L172[08:34:34] <APlayer> Rocket equation is logarithmic?
L173[08:34:56] <Truga> oh ya
L174[08:35:09] <darsie> But adding stages should increase dv infinitely. But each stage must be bigger than the next one.
L175[08:35:47] <darsie> dv=v_e*ln(m0/m1)
L176[08:35:57] <Truga> yeah that's the thing
L177[08:36:09] <darsie> logarithm isn't aspymptotic.
L178[08:36:11] <Truga> you can't keep adding bigger stages :v
L179[08:36:21] <darsie> Why?
L180[08:36:24] <darsie> Run out of memory?
L181[08:36:28] <Truga> or mass
L182[08:36:38] <Truga> there's only so much fuel on kerbin :v
L183[08:36:42] <darsie> Or VAB height?
L184[08:36:45] <Truga> yeah
L185[08:36:49] <Truga> there's a mod for that but
L186[08:36:55] <darsie> I can assemble stuff in orbit.
L187[08:37:12] <darsie> That gets tedious, though.
L188[08:37:13] <Truga> you're already working around the rocket limitation by doing that
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L190[08:37:35] <Truga> launching smaller parts and assembling them later does wonders for your dv range
L191[08:37:58] <APlayer> So, dv = ve * ln(m0/m1) = ve * (ln m0 - ln m1). As you increase m0, ln m0 >> ln m1 so we can drop that term, and we have dv = ln m0
L192[08:38:09] <APlayer> ve * ln m0, even
L193[08:38:21] <APlayer> Nothing asymptotic there
L194[08:38:33] <APlayer> Anyway, I am off for lunch, please ;tell me if I messed up
L195[08:38:38] <Truga> no, but a part of your rocket mass is tanks
L196[08:38:43] <Truga> and in ksp that part is pretty large
L197[08:38:58] <Truga> hence, you won't get much past 17km/s unless you can somehow make a rocket bigger than kerbin
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L200[08:49:18] <darsie> Does nerve count?
L201[08:49:32] * ve2dmn crawls out of his bed...
L202[08:49:47] <ve2dmn> good morning...
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L205[08:51:19] <darsie> ve2dmn: What's your time?
L206[08:51:31] <ve2dmn> time for a headache
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L208[08:52:59] <ve2dmn> 9:52
L209[08:54:56] <ve2dmn> Truga: The tyranny of the rocket equation
L210[08:55:17] <Truga> yeah
L211[08:56:25] <ve2dmn> I calculated that with 999999999999999999 FL-T800 tanks and a single LV-N engine, you get 17.26139628km/s of dv
L212[08:56:50] <Truga> nice
L213[08:56:57] <ve2dmn> Google Sheets
L214[08:58:00] <ve2dmn> was trying to move asteroids, so I made a giant sheets with the amount of dv with 1 LV-N with various amount of tanks
L215[08:58:13] <darsie> What's the nickname of LV-N?
L216[08:58:19] <Truga> nuke
L217[08:58:20] <Truga> :v
L218[08:58:40] <ve2dmn> Since the T800 (up to Orange tanks) are the most usefull, I went with that ratio of mass/fuel
L219[08:59:00] <Truga> I think orange tank isn't that far off?
L220[08:59:15] <Truga> but yeah, t800 fits nicely with lv-n
L221[08:59:16] <ve2dmn> They all have a ratio of 9 dry/wet
L222[08:59:22] <Truga> ah
L223[08:59:33] <ve2dmn> T100, 200, 400 or 800
L224[09:00:06] <ve2dmn> and the X200-8, X200-16, X200-32 and Jumbo-64 tanks
L225[09:00:39] <darsie> even the Oscar-B
L226[09:00:56] <ve2dmn> The Kerbodyne (XL tanks) have a ratio of 8.2
L227[09:01:11] <ve2dmn> Only the Mk3 Rocket fuel fuselage is better at 9.33
L228[09:01:37] <ve2dmn> Of course, that sheet is really old, so the math might be wrong these days
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L230[09:01:57] <Truga> I don't think the KSP numbers have changed much lately
L231[09:02:23] <ve2dmn> The engines did though
L232[09:02:37] <Truga> oh yeah
L233[09:03:04] <Truga> hm
L234[09:03:10] <Truga> lv-n is 3 tons, used to be 5
L235[09:03:14] <Truga> still 800s tho
L236[09:03:22] * darsie is at 15 km/s.
L237[09:03:28] <ve2dmn> I have the tyranny of the rocket equation in a single graph...
L238[09:03:39] <ve2dmn> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w-6uCr9az2D8nb_c2OALQfUGEDl42CUt58LVOHOxHAo/edit?usp=sharing
L239[09:05:10] <ve2dmn> The Ion engine had a max of 34km/s, but I don't think these values are good anymore
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L242[09:10:01] <ve2dmn> This sheet is not that usefull anymore: ART asteroids are 60k tonnes, not 60tonnes
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L244[09:10:58] <ve2dmn> so even a full Orange tank, converted to hold only liquid fuel, gives you less then 50m/s of dv with a 'B' asteroid
L245[09:11:40] <GlassFragments> it's amazing how PCs consist largely of solid state electronics and yet still manage to produce sounds you have never heard before every now and then
L246[09:13:06] <ve2dmn> GlassFragments: it's super easy to produce sounds with very little electronic
L247[09:13:56] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/413352138241081346/DSC_8385.JPG
L248[09:15:30] <ve2dmn> GlassFragments: and the range of possible sounds is 'nearly' infinite, so there are sounds you will never hear in your entire life
L249[09:15:50] <ve2dmn> Just like you can never watch the entirety of Youtube
L250[09:15:50] <GlassFragments> ve2dmn, it was mechanical
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L252[09:16:21] <ve2dmn> That a bit more troubling
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L254[09:19:24] <darsie> 18 km/s http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot168.png I'm not sure MJ considered the detaching Oscar-Bs.
L255[09:19:48] <ve2dmn> darsie: if you allow staging you can get a lot more then 17km/s
L256[09:19:51] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch https://youtu.be/iFuUSe44jtk
L257[09:19:51] <kmath> YouTube - Magnet "Midi" Music System (I Want Your Feedback) - Marble Machine X #25
L258[09:20:03] <darsie> yeah
L259[09:20:42] <ve2dmn> With staging, my max estimate was 492.2748245km/s for a single LV-N
L260[09:21:05] <darsie> Ok. Detach empty tanks.
L261[09:22:12] <ve2dmn> It's not always better: that stack seperator has a bit of mass.
L262[09:22:34] <ve2dmn> So you have to take all that extra mass into orbit in the first place
L263[09:22:51] <darsie> In orbit assembly with docking ports? Or just theoretical which won't take off?
L264[09:23:26] <darsie> Yeah, I didn't actually check if the separation is beneficial.
L265[09:24:01] <darsie> I used a Terrier instead of a Poodle on the orange tank.
L266[09:29:58] <ve2dmn> Below a certain quantity, the Terrier engine is more efficient then the LV-N
L267[09:39:10] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: thank you :)
L268[09:39:20] <darsie> My rocket made orbit, with some annoying oscillations.
L269[09:40:42] <ve2dmn> darsie: Then you need to tweak your PID
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L279[09:52:17] <scrat9518> Happy Wednesday, all.
L280[09:52:23] <scrat9518> (Or at least most)
L281[09:52:26] <darsie> PID?
L282[09:56:55] <Althego> unix or control?
L283[09:59:19] <Mat2ch> uh. Fluburtur do you see the "Sponsor" button, too?
L284[10:00:11] <Fluburtur> nope
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L286[10:04:01] <Mat2ch> Weird. I see a button saying "Sponsor" next to the Subscribe button
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L288[10:08:42] <ve2dmn> darsie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller
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L290[10:15:05] <ve2dmn> Mat2ch: youtube?
L291[10:15:58] <Mat2ch> yes
L292[10:16:20] <ve2dmn> then you are logged-in
L293[10:16:28] <ve2dmn> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6304294
L294[10:16:31] <Mat2ch> looks like Google wants to build up some competition to patreon
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L298[10:22:25] <Althego> hah the triplen pions are stupidm fix the plastic with the holes
L299[10:23:47] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYLBjScgb7o /o\
L300[10:23:48] <kmath> YouTube - THE FURBY ORGAN, A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT MADE FROM FURBIES
L301[10:24:16] <Fluburtur> lel
L302[10:25:24] <Mat2ch> You have to watch it before you lol! :D
L303[10:25:35] <Fluburtur> I know but im playing war thunder
L304[10:27:07] * darsie made a 980/858 Mm solar orbit.
L305[10:27:37] <scrat9518> darsie: on purpose?
L306[10:28:04] <darsie> yep
L307[10:28:23] <darsie> Built a high delta v rocket (with conventional fuel) and tested it.
L308[10:29:33] <scrat9518> nice
L309[10:29:52] <scrat9518> you made a falcon heavy
L310[10:29:58] <Althego> lol furby organ
L311[10:30:14] <Mat2ch> it's so creepy it's so great :D
L312[10:34:19] <darsie> Not exactly a FH :) http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot168.png http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot171.png
L313[10:36:50] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch that is extremely creepy
L314[10:36:56] <scrat9518> darsie: oh wow
L315[10:37:11] <scrat9518> i think that's the rocket the falcon heavy aspires to be
L316[10:37:49] <Fluburtur> it sounds kinda decent
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L318[10:41:22] <halcyon_b> That's a lot of rocket.
L319[10:42:17] <ve2dmn> What the closest you can get to the sun without burning up?
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L322[10:43:11] <scrat9518> doesn't that depend on how well your craft dissipates heat?
L323[10:43:35] <scrat9518> i mean in general
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L326[10:56:52] <APlayer> Hi there!
L327[10:57:14] <ve2dmn> greetin fellow player
L328[10:58:00] <Althego> how do you do fellow kids?
L329[10:58:29] <ve2dmn> Not well, but this discussion is for another time and space
L330[10:58:42] <ve2dmn> Tl;DR: no sleep
L331[10:58:50] <Althego> i am in autoreact mode
L332[10:58:57] * APlayer gives ve2dmn some coffee
L333[10:59:08] <ve2dmn> thanks. I'll survive
L334[11:00:21] <Althego> first i was afraid, i was petrified...
L335[11:00:35] <ve2dmn> I finally unlocked 'The Jaw' yesterday
L336[11:00:43] <Althego> what is that
L337[11:01:02] <ve2dmn> USI ART driller for asteroids
L338[11:01:09] <APlayer> The jaw is the lower part of your skull, usually applied when chewing on food
L339[11:01:20] <ve2dmn> It's like the claw, but with a drill
L340[11:01:52] <APlayer> Presumably, ve2dmn's jaw had a small lock on it that prevented him from doing precisely that, but he must have found a fitting key, because he unlocked it
L341[11:02:23] <Althego> i was asking it in the kerbal context
L342[11:02:29] <APlayer> :P
L343[11:02:35] * APlayer is being silly again
L344[11:02:47] <ve2dmn> If I can fix the asteroid mesh issue I have with the mod, I'll be able to build massive-looking station with tanks and rooms inside the asteroid
L345[11:04:32] <ve2dmn> sadly, I don't think Roverdude maintains this mod anymore
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L347[11:07:33] <ve2dmn> APlayer: you joke, but some of the people in my family have jaws medical issues
L348[11:08:38] <APlayer> What's their trouble?
L349[11:08:57] <ve2dmn> Temporomandibular Joint Disorder (TMJ)
L350[11:09:06] <ve2dmn> AKA the jaw falls out of the joint
L351[11:09:12] <kuzetsa> my mom has that :(
L352[11:09:32] <APlayer> Uh, is it as bad as it sounds?
L353[11:09:39] <ve2dmn> It hurts
L354[11:10:03] <kuzetsa> confusingly, a mouth guard (like to prevent teeth grinding) is somehow involved. I never really asked any doctors or otherwise looked into it :/
L355[11:10:26] <ve2dmn> usually happens during yawning or something like that
L356[11:10:34] <APlayer> Well, that sucks
L357[11:10:59] <APlayer> And it is something genetically transmitted?
L358[11:11:48] <ve2dmn> not clear
L359[11:12:07] <ve2dmn> I have pains, but not that specific problem
L360[11:12:14] <APlayer> Because you said it was present in some of your family
L361[11:13:05] <kuzetsa> neck / shoulder issues being somehow related is confusing too - there's a lot I don't know about it either, like how common it is (not just if there's genetic chance I'll have similar issue)
L362[11:13:21] <ve2dmn> yup... There is a tendency to have it, but it's not 100% clear that if your parents have it, you have it too
L363[11:13:37] <kuzetsa> she never like to talk about medical stuff - pride and such
L364[11:13:45] <ve2dmn> :/
L365[11:13:59] <APlayer> Well, that's the case with most genetic diseases, isn't it?
L366[11:14:08] <ve2dmn> I also know somehow who's muscles are slowing turning into bone-like structures
L367[11:14:26] <APlayer> You are at increased risk, but it is not a certainty
L368[11:14:30] <ve2dmn> She has a very strict diet
L369[11:14:40] <APlayer> Also, now the last one is rather creepy
L370[11:15:09] <kuzetsa> ve2dmn: too much iron in the blood mesing up joints?
L371[11:15:35] <APlayer> Speaking of bone-like structures, anyone know if bone loss can significantly change your weight?
L372[11:15:37] <kuzetsa> gosh, human bodies are so weird
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L374[11:22:00] <ve2dmn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibrodysplasia_ossificans_progressiva
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L377[11:23:57] <ve2dmn> APlayer: I don't think bones are the biggest contributor to your total weigh
L378[11:24:28] <APlayer> But they do make up a few kilograms, don't they?
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L380[11:24:47] <ve2dmn> sure
L381[11:25:37] <ve2dmn> Bones are less then 20% of the total mass
L382[11:25:47] <ve2dmn> can't find a more precise numebr
L383[11:25:59] <UmbralRaptor> Apparently wet vs dry matters a great deal.
L384[11:27:12] <APlayer> Dry meaning?
L385[11:27:25] <APlayer> Skeleton, or what?
L386[11:29:29] <scrat9518> The other major variable we're missing is the change in density caused by conditions like this.
L387[11:29:45] <scrat9518> Once we have that, it's just a weighted average sort of deal.
L388[11:34:24] <Gasher[home]> UmbralRaptor, i think the kind of joke that i want to make with it is not allowed here
L389[11:34:54] <APlayer> You better had not
L390[11:35:06] <UmbralRaptor> APlayer: a lot of (living) bone mass being water.
L391[11:35:19] <UmbralRaptor> Gasher[home]: hah.
L392[11:50:41] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405528003997859842/413391580217737216/DSC_8387.JPG
L393[11:51:07] <Althego> dont explode
L394[11:51:13] <Fluburtur> it might
L395[11:51:20] <Fluburtur> the egniter is inside the fuel
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L398[12:00:16] <Fluburtur> so presure might build up inside the fuel assembly until it explodes
L399[12:00:26] <Fluburtur> if the fire doesn't exit at the right side
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L401[12:15:34] <Althego> not very reassuring
L402[12:15:55] <Fluburtur> yeah im gonna make an extensino to my electric igniter
L403[12:16:06] <Fluburtur> so im more than 15cm away from the thing
L404[12:17:36] <scrat9518> Where's the sport in that?
L405[12:18:07] <scrat9518> (But seriously, be safe.)
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L407[12:20:50] <Fluburtur> BadRocketsCo yo
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L413[12:37:56] <Althego> be 15 cm behind a wall
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L420[12:49:09] <Fluburtur> the blades of the tail rotor fo my heli are yellow so I made them black with a marker with only the tip yellow
L421[12:49:16] <Fluburtur> looks a bit better
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L440[13:41:55] <Althego> that pun in the beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUn2izowBkw
L441[13:41:55] <kmath> YouTube - What is Energy? | Space Time
L442[13:46:23] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413109312802521098/413417015978754058/20161024163818_1.jpg
L443[13:46:39] <Althego> a bit shallow
L444[13:46:45] <Draconiator> I wanna do another engine experiment video.
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L447[13:53:29] <Draconiator> does kevin MacLeod have any pirate sounding tunes?
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L449[14:00:30] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGsz_toWM5A
L450[14:00:30] <kmath> YouTube - Boeing 777X folding wingtips
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L454[14:07:51] <Althego> hehe, they even say it they are a week behind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RjN6DF0yGs
L455[14:07:51] <kmath> YouTube - Was the Falcon Heavy Launch a Giant Hoax? (Muskwatch w/ Kyle Hill & Dan Casey)
L456[14:09:54] <ve2dmn> Althego: TL;DR ?
L457[14:10:33] <Althego> falcon heavy
L458[14:11:08] <ve2dmn> Is it a crappy flat earth video?
L459[14:11:12] <Althego> no
L460[14:11:25] <Althego> the usual nerdist muskwatch, they talk about musk
L461[14:22:01] <ve2dmn> never heard of it
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L465[14:25:02] <Althego> they are slightly funny and i like the cyborg centaur musk image :)
L466[14:27:35] <ve2dmn> Will keep it in mind and look at it when I'm not in a zombified state
L467[14:28:39] <Draconiator> Apparently seperators are aerodynamic. I launched one just now as part of a cannon and it kind of flew off by itself.
L468[14:30:26] <Althego> daft punk is aerodynamic :)
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L472[14:57:45] <ve2dmn> sale: https://www.gog.com/game/kerbal_space_program
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L477[15:16:16] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch good thign you showed me that dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUwvjCFyAHc
L478[15:16:16] <kmath> YouTube - Look Mum No Computer Live Session In The Workshop
L479[15:16:20] <Fluburtur> makes me want to make music
L480[15:16:34] <Fluburtur> guess I will grab my drummer friend
L481[15:16:41] <Fluburtur> put down rc stuff for a while and make music
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L484[15:28:34] <Sebastiaz> If there's any moderator on, could they delete my second post on the Spacecraft Exchange, it's an accidental duplicate of the first one.
L485[15:32:06] <APlayer> @TheKosmonaut ^
L486[15:37:17] <APlayer> Anyway, I am off for today. See you tomorrow!
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L489[16:09:04] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: hehe, yeah, go for it :D
L490[16:09:10] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: but first fly your heli
L491[16:09:18] <Fluburtur> I will don't worry
L492[16:09:21] <Fluburtur> I waited long enough
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L502[17:09:59] <Fluburtur> I should sharpen my sword and do the crazy swordman challenge
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L510[17:34:10] <dlrkdesktop> Can anyone point to a radial engine mount mod?
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L513[18:00:55] <lordcirth> dlrkdesktop, Near Future Launch Vehicles maybe?
L514[18:02:51] <dlrkdesktop> hmm
L515[18:04:42] <dlrkdesktop> It's tough....I'm looking for an efficient radial engine lol
L516[18:07:57] <taniwha> dlrkdesktop: Mk1 liquid fuel tank + LV-N (use the tank to give radial attachment)
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L519[18:08:43] <ve2dmn> or a good old octagonal strut
L520[18:09:24] <dlrkdesktop> yeah
L521[18:09:41] <dlrkdesktop> This is a little tough...
L522[18:10:12] <dlrkdesktop> I've got this frustum shaped reusable vehicle and I'm using the KRE superdracos but they're so inefficient
L523[18:10:13] <dlrkdesktop> ..
L524[18:10:21] <ve2dmn> if you want RCS engines that uses conventional fuels, that's another story
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L526[18:11:15] <dlrkdesktop> no, don't need that
L527[18:11:41] <dlrkdesktop> More of looking for a way to reenter an upper stage engine
L528[18:11:59] <dlrkdesktop> Could put an inflatable heat shield on top, though my vehicle would look like a mushroom.....
L529[18:14:13] <taniwha> dlrkdesktop: be sure to play Hall of the Mountain King during reentry ;)
L530[18:15:16] <dlrkdesktop> lol
L531[18:16:25] <dlrkdesktop> what've you guys used for vehicles that need to reenter with engines?
L532[18:16:51] <ve2dmn> luck
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L534[18:17:15] <Fluburtur> I made a srb rocket that could land on its nose with a well timed burn
L535[18:17:22] <Fluburtur> had another smaller srb on the nose
L536[18:18:11] <dlrkdesktop> could do something like the BFR....reenter with a belly heatshield
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L538[18:18:45] <Draconiator> does KSP have something similar to those Rutherford engines that NZ company has?
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L540[18:19:04] <Fluburtur> spark maybe?
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L542[18:27:12] <Draconiator> Has anyone seen this thing? http://www.thehumanitystar.com/
L543[18:27:23] <Fluburtur> yeah
L544[18:28:19] <Fluburtur> I think it's pretty cool
L545[18:31:32] <dlrkdesktop> the bahamuto engines could be good, but eight giant retractable engines lol
L546[18:36:38] <dlrkdesktop> wow I feel dumb. The mk4 shoulder
L547[18:43:24] <dlrkdesktop> dumb question: Is it unrealistic to use a nuclear engine as a landing/launch engine? Like do they irradiate everything?
L548[18:43:39] <Fluburtur> well ksp doesn't simulate radioations
L549[18:43:55] <Fluburtur> but nukes have fairly low thrust so it will be good only for low gravity bodies
L550[18:44:03] <Fluburtur> and no atmosphere
L551[18:49:00] <Fluburtur> there is this guy that made a mini arduino synth called the sardine box
L552[18:49:05] <Fluburtur> I could make one easily
L553[18:49:42] <Fluburtur> I could maybe make a two channels one
L554[18:50:19] <Fluburtur> uh the arduino can only make one tone
L555[18:50:21] <darsie> "Go on an orbital spacewalk near The Sun." Is that lethal?
L556[18:50:41] <Fluburtur> but I guess I could add some stuff to chaneg the town and then an analog filter
L557[18:50:45] <Fluburtur> depends how close
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L573[21:23:55] <Einarr> Hmm...
L574[21:24:41] <Einarr> Need a way to convert Ore to Argon and Xenon...
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L578[22:01:45] <darsie> I'm doing an "orbital spacewalk near The Sun." and my ablator is evaporating at 1 Gm :(.
L579[22:02:23] <darsie> Einarr: Nuclear fusion.
L580[22:04:24] <darsie> Haven't found an attitude that would shield the heat shield from The Sun.
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L583[22:16:39] <darsie> But I have enough xenon so I don't need the ablator.
L584[22:19:57] <Draconiator> Darsie, you have Near Future Propulsion?
L585[22:21:16] <darsie> no
L586[22:21:33] <darsie> Or do I?
L587[22:21:38] <darsie> I have everything in stock.
L588[22:22:00] <darsie> But ion thrusters are present, not future.
L589[22:24:11] <darsie> jk, fusion would be required irl.
L590[22:25:08] <Draconiator> uhhh....NFP is a mod
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L598[22:58:43] <darsie> "Go on an orbital spacewalk near The Sun." was an interesting mission.
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L603[23:03:51] <Twinerererer> Mathuin, you have started something
L604[23:04:27] <taniwha> Twinerererer: what did he start?
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L606[23:06:34] <Twinerererer> https://i.imgur.com/9LIABUb.jpg
L607[23:06:40] <Twinerererer> he introduced to me kRPC
L608[23:07:25] <Twinerererer> still got a long ways to go
L609[23:07:33] <taniwha> ah
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L612[23:10:39] * taniwha ponders using kRPC to send data to blender
L613[23:11:02] <taniwha> KSP on one monitor, blender on the other, F2 :)
L614[23:12:09] <Twinerererer> lol, what are you going to do in blender
L615[23:12:20] <Twinerererer> I need to setup triggers with stream data from krpc
L616[23:12:24] <taniwha> navball etc
L617[23:12:31] <Twinerererer> but i can't even get auto pilot to work correctly really
L618[23:12:54] <Twinerererer> theres a mechjeb extension which I could probably utilize more how I want
L619[23:13:31] <Twinerererer> this has been fun to put together though, I'm going full derp on this classic tandy monochrome green style :p
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