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L7[00:39:02] <Rolf> captioned version.
thanks for finding
L8[00:45:09] <Rolf> Althego: what a fanastic
video
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L16[01:40:47] <Rolf> the last man who
walked on moon died this year
L17[01:41:51] <Rolf> and creator of
pacman
L18[01:46:30] <kubi> and the earth is
flat
L19[01:46:42] <Rolf> okay.
L20[01:48:19] <Althego> earth is flat. in
an small epsilon radius of a point :)
L21[01:48:36] <Rolf> Althego: yep
L22[01:51:47] <kubi> you mean that the
second and higher derivates are all zero?
L23[01:56:30] <Althego> it is smooth enough
that in small intervals it can be sufficiently replaced by a flat
surface :)
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L25[02:01:57] <Supernovy> I think curvature
is independent of path length, I believe it's just based on
radius.
L26[02:04:50] <Mathuin> Curvature is
dependent on path length.
L27[02:05:46] <Mathuin> Cut a circle with a
chord. The maximum distance between the circle and the chord line
is larger when the chord line is longer.
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L30[02:20:04] <Supernovy> it's not just
1/r?
L31[02:21:26] <Mathuin> Nope.
L32[02:23:34] <Supernovy> I'm like, 90%
sure it's just 1/r.
L33[02:26:16] <Mathuin> crd theta is 2 *
sin(theta/2)
L34[02:26:47] <Mathuin> where crd theta is
the ratio between the radius and the length of the chord line given
an angle of theta
L35[02:27:35] <Supernovy> I'm like, 80%
sure it's just 1/r.
L36[02:27:43] <Althego> hehe
L38[02:28:08] <Althego> it is decreasing.
like in groundhog day the probability of leaving
L39[02:29:22] <Mathuin> Huh. kOS variables
don't appear to be typed, except booleans, kinda. There's
unicode<->char translations but no casting from char to int
or vice versa.
L40[02:29:59] <ConductorCat> :3
L41[02:30:14] <Mathuin> Reminds me of Perl
a little.
L42[02:30:45] <Mathuin> No wait, there's
String:TOSCALAR which is string-to-number
L43[02:32:44] <Mathuin> Only vectors of
length three are allowed, which makes sense.
L44[02:33:23] <Mathuin> And I'm ignoring
quaternions here. :-)
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L77[03:56:15] <JCB> mmmmmmmmmmm....
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L97[06:37:54] <Fluburtur> alright time to
send two empty shuttles to my station
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L100[06:41:59] <JCB> rwar...
L101[06:42:44] <JCB> reading up on Collins
from Apollo 11... they said forgotten, loneliest person... yet he
didn't feel quite that way
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L107[07:20:27] <Althego> space, the final
frontier
L108[07:22:40] <Fluburtur> I sent the two
shuttles with no crew this way I can get everyone down easily
L109[07:26:20] <Althego> a funny word in
english is the shuttlecock (the projectile in badminton) :)
L110[07:27:48] <Althego> btw creationists
are right that humans lived along dinosaurs. they just dont admit
that we still live with them today :)
L111[07:29:28] <legion> lol
L112[07:32:09] <ve2dmn> Althego: not true.
THEY live among us
L115[07:34:53] <kmath> YouTube - Cambrian
Explosion
L116[07:35:16] <Althego> art?
L117[07:35:33] <ve2dmn> Asteroid recycling
tech
L118[07:35:53] <ve2dmn> That asteroid is
'clawed'
L119[07:36:10] <Althego> hehe
L120[07:36:17] <Althego> i thought this is
on the approach
L121[07:36:25] <Althego> an i was
wondering why the drills are out
L122[07:36:27] ***
Dman979 is now known as Drowningpreventionman979
L123[07:36:39] <ve2dmn> It was bigger
yesterday and orange
L124[07:36:44] <Althego> hehe
L125[07:36:59] <ve2dmn> this morning I
reload my save and the asteroid is smaller and with another
colour
L126[07:37:13] <ve2dmn> It happened with
pretty much all my asteroids so far
L127[07:37:26] <ve2dmn> The mass has
stayed the same though
L128[07:43:36] <ve2dmn> anyway... now I
have a Purple potatoroid
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L133[07:55:22] <kmath> YouTube -
Christopher Tin - Sogno di Volare ("The Dream of Flight")
(Civilization VI Main Theme)
L134[08:12:26] <sandbox> not my cup of
tea
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L138[08:32:26] <Fluburtur> wooo feels nice
flying a bit
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L143[09:00:36] <darsie> Is it bad to close
KSP with the window close button instead of the menu?
L144[09:02:21] <darsie> Merry Yule!
L145[09:07:11] <darsie> I didn't even go
to Minmus orbit. Just flyby and let the stranded catch up.
L146[09:07:26] <darsie> A arranged for a
good encounter, though.
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L149[09:22:19] <Althego> althought the
official norad santa tracker shows a different position
L150[09:25:46] <Mat2ch>
"Registration: HOHOHO"
L151[09:25:47] <Mat2ch> Nice :D
L152[09:26:26] <Mat2ch> looks like
flightradar got pretty much commercialized
L154[09:26:56] <kmath> YouTube - A
Worm-like Robot Built from Compliant Modular Mesh
L155[09:37:09] <Mat2ch> you can have
worms
L156[09:37:47] <Mat2ch> just drink some
moldy water
L157[09:39:28] <Althego> that is not so
cool
L158[09:40:40] <Althego> robots based on
animals get us closer to understandingthe movement of those nimals,
they also move in an insteresting way, and help to advance
efficient robotic movement research
L159[09:44:30] <kubi> tracked and wheeled
vehicles are the best
L160[09:44:43] <kubi> biology is inferior
when it comes to movement
L162[09:44:48] <Althego> haha no
L163[09:44:53] <Mat2ch> reminds me of the
Russian designs
L164[09:45:02] <Althego> wheels only get
you anywhere if you have roads
L165[09:45:17] <Mat2ch> technically wheels
are very efficient, but only on hard surfaces
L166[09:45:34] <Althego> also they cant
climb higher than their radius
L167[09:45:41] <Mat2ch> if you need to go
where no roads are, you need something that can walk.
L168[09:45:47] <Althego> so for surfaces
worse than that, you need legs
L169[09:45:49] <Mat2ch> And walking is
very efficient, too
L170[09:46:02] <Fluburtur> flying is
better
L171[09:46:10] <Fluburtur> and ground
effect is the best thing
L172[09:46:18] <Althego> living things can
still run more efficiently than i robots. energy storage in
tendons
L173[09:46:35] <Althego> *our robots
L174[09:46:58] <Mat2ch> it's funny how the
english Wikipedia article seems to be heavily edited from China
:D
L175[09:47:01] <ve2dmn> Living things are
also more delicious then our robots
L176[09:47:07] <Fluburtur> guess it's
possible to make a plane that uses either ground effect or dynamic
soaring
L177[09:47:20] <Althego> or some kill you
faster than the robots if you eat them ?)
L178[09:47:36] <Althego> any plane can use
ground effect
L179[09:48:09] <Fluburtur> yeah but do
both to fly for a very long time with no power
L180[09:48:16] <Fluburtur> like
birds
L181[09:48:29] <Althego> we cant really do
that
L182[09:48:30] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur:
ekranoplan?
L183[09:48:47] <Althego> or rather i know
of a few robots that fly like birds
L184[09:48:50] <Fluburtur> kinda like
that
L185[09:49:01] <Althego> but the control
is missing to do what seagulls or albatrosses can do
L186[09:49:10] <Fluburtur> I guess it's
hard to mix dynamic soaring and ground effect however
L187[09:49:14] <Fluburtur> exept with
sails I guess
L189[09:49:56] <kmath> YouTube - DYNAMIC
SOARING NEW WORLD RECORD: Bruce Tebo flies 505mph at Weldon with
his Kinetic 130
L191[09:50:05] <kmath> YouTube - BTD10:
The 835kph Sailplane and Dynamic Soaring
L192[09:50:11] <Fluburtur> lots of good
info in that conference
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L194[09:51:18] <ve2dmn> Merry everything
everyone
L196[09:51:26] <kmath> YouTube - Star Wars
Ultimate Medley - Sonya Belousova (dir: Tom Grey)
L197[09:53:01] <Fluburtur> also my foam
canadair is almost ready to fly
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L199[09:56:23] <kerbidiot> hey can someone
help me with the mod bdarmory couse it woud not show me the nuclear
bomb fx
L200[09:56:29] <kerbidiot>
?????????????
L201[09:56:33] <Althego> btw any opinion
on last jedi?
L202[09:56:48] <kerbidiot> didnt see it
yet
L203[09:56:56] <kerbidiot> pls
answer
L204[09:57:03] <kerbidiot> my
question
L205[09:57:10] <Althego> i dont use mods
except ker
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L207[09:57:23] <Althego> heh
L208[09:57:24] <ve2dmn> ...
L209[09:57:25] <Althego> impatient
people
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L213[09:58:50] <ve2dmn> Why do I do these
things? a 26min burn for a 60m/s of dV
L214[09:59:28] <Althego> lol
L215[09:59:40] <Althego> asteroid
transfer?
L216[09:59:45] <ve2dmn> yes
L217[09:59:48] <Althego> probably a bit
big asteroid
L218[09:59:55] <ve2dmn> 1 nuke engine to
push 4400 tonnes
L219[10:00:40] <ve2dmn> I'm trying to
build a space casino with hollowed-out asteroids
L220[10:00:48] <Althego> hehe
L221[10:01:15] <ve2dmn> The contract says
: 4 asteroids and enough space for 100 kerbals
L222[10:01:44] <ve2dmn> AKA: let's kill my
CPU
L224[10:07:37] <Fluburtur> now I have to
balance it
L225[10:07:49] <Fluburtur> will probably
put a lot of metal in the nose
L226[10:11:37] <Mat2ch> and moar floats
;)
L227[10:11:40] <Mat2ch> Looks great
L228[10:11:48] <Fluburtur> yeah it needs
the wingtip floats
L229[10:11:54] <Althego> céé
L230[10:11:56] <Althego> cool
L231[10:12:01] <Fluburtur> I will add them
after doing some testing over the ground
L232[10:12:05] <Althego> dual engine
L233[10:12:06] <Fluburtur> since they will
be fragile
L234[10:14:30] <Fluburtur> I didn't want
to make a plane with the engine at the front
L235[10:14:34] <Fluburtur> im tired of
breaking props
L237[10:14:44] <kmath> YouTube - Waal-E :
Wheeled Climbing Robot Using Bio-Inspired Fibrillar Adhesive
L238[10:14:50] <Fluburtur> didn't want one
of those funny looking pushers either
L239[10:15:01] <Fluburtur> and the
canadair is a pretty rugged design
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L248[10:44:20] <Fluburtur> if I get asked
how much balancing weight the plane needs I will say "about
2.50€"
L249[10:45:29] <Althego> lol
L250[10:48:11] <UmbralRaptor> Use tungsten
cubes for weights.
L251[10:48:19] <Althego> hehe
L252[10:48:23] <Fluburtur> give me some
then
L253[10:48:31] <Althego> and shoot them to
the surface of mars while landing
L254[10:50:19] <Mathuin> TIL while reading
the kOS docs that 'u' will toggle lights
L256[10:51:24] <Mathuin> If you have to
add weight, can you add useful weight like power?
L257[10:51:26] <Fluburtur> well that's a
bit more expensive than my plane
L258[10:51:42] <Fluburtur> could build
20for that price
L259[10:52:02] <Fluburtur> Mathuin I could
add another battery but it doesn't need that much flight time
L260[10:52:03] <UmbralRaptor> Hah
L261[10:52:38] <Mathuin> More power means
you can do stuff like add lights or a GoPro or something
someday.
L262[10:52:58] <Fluburtur> yeah I
could
L263[10:53:12] <Fluburtur> will probably
put a flight cam on it but since it's a seaplane I don't want to
risk the camera too much
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L266[11:01:41] <GlassYuri> ...so closing
masses of tabs slows down firefox
L267[11:02:44] <GlassYuri> "the
internet was a mistake." -tim berners-miyazaki
L268[11:06:21] <ve2dmn> "Use the
force, Harry!" --Gandalf
L269[11:06:42] <Zarthus> "I am your
mother" -- Darth Mamma
L270[11:07:18] <UmbralRaptor> GlassYuri:
at least Quantum is faster? (despite losing the classic theme
restorer and downthemall)
L271[11:08:34] <GlassYuri> UmbralRaptor,
it would be faster if it weren't for something causing massive
performance issues for me
L272[11:08:45] <GlassYuri> probably the
way windows mismanages memory
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L281[11:50:10] <sandbox> gotta catch em
all
L282[11:51:13] <ve2dmn> Got the reverse
issue then earlier: my vessel is now hidden inside an
asteroid...
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L289[12:14:35] <Fdkhio> hi
L290[12:14:36] <Mod9000> Hello,
Fdkhio
L291[12:14:45] <Mathuin> Mod9000++
L292[12:14:55] <Althego> ++? dont increase
the bot
L293[12:16:18] <UmbralRaptor>
Mod9000--
L294[12:16:27] <UmbralRaptor> There,
fixed.
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L297[12:18:20] <Kalpa> ++Mod9000
L298[12:18:40] <Mathuin> ... in another
channel I'm in, ++/-- are used for adding or removing karma points.
I now want to write a PR for that bot that actually changes its
name based on the karma.
L299[12:19:07] <Althego> iso 9001 bot
:)
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L301[12:21:13] <ve2dmn> certbot9001
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L303[12:25:54] <Mathuin> Some
documentation clearly shows multiple voices.
L304[12:26:23] <Mathuin> For example,
whoever updated kOS v0.19 had a consistent voice throughout the
docs for the bits that changed.
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L307[12:35:20] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: either
that, or they spoke as one
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L309[12:35:39] <Mathuin> Yes, but much
different than those that came before or after.
L310[12:36:18] <UmbralRaptor>
Documentation is good.
L311[12:36:53] <Mathuin> I agree. I
consider docs to be a great low-hanging fruit PR opportunity -- if
you use software but don't feel confident enough to send a code
patch, you can often help improve documentation.
L312[12:38:58] <Mathuin> Is there a flag
to tell CKAN to never install a particular mod as a dependency of
another mod? I do not like/want Blizzy's Toolbar, but many addons
seem to either include it or bundle it.
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L315[12:55:50] <Fluburtur> I weighted my
canadair
L316[12:55:53] <Fluburtur> 1.4kg
L317[12:57:17] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur:
CL-215?
L319[12:58:20] <Fluburtur> kinda looks
like a canadair but it isn't really anything like a real
plane
L320[12:58:28] <Fluburtur> it's just a
beefy twin seaplane
L321[12:58:48] <Fluburtur> but no one
where I am knows every single detail of a canadair so I should be
fine
L322[12:58:58] <Alanonzander> Found my
auto-flight issue from yestrerday. It was the Mark4 CAbule mod
:(
L323[12:59:05] <Alanonzander>
Capsule
L324[12:59:55] <Warriga_l> Things that are
okay in Kerbal Space Program but not in real life, #346:
L325[13:00:07] <Warriga_l> Trying to level
off your plane at a particular altitude but overshooting by 90,000
feet.
L326[13:00:17] <Mathuin> Better over than
under
L327[13:00:22] <Mathuin> And yay for
finding the issue
L328[13:08:40] <Mathuin> Do you know what
was wrong with the capsule?
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L331[13:14:18] <Alanonzander> Mathuin: No.
Once I removed it my craft didn't start takign off before any
engines were activated.
L332[13:14:37] <Mathuin> That's
frustrating.
L333[13:16:28] <Alanonzander> yep
L334[13:27:59] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: TIL
that France has a few 'Superscoopers' (Canadair CL-415)
L335[13:28:32] <Fluburtur> what does
"TIL" mean?
L336[13:28:51] <Fluburtur> I know we have
only cl415 because we got rid of the cl215
L337[13:29:49] <UmbralRaptor> Fluburtur:
"Today I Learned"
L338[13:29:55] <Fluburtur> ok
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L340[13:40:00] <ConductorCat> :3
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L349[13:55:50] <Althego> bromance blooms
on the battlefield :)
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L352[14:01:44] <Fluburtur> next build will
be a pure speed plane
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L354[14:02:06] <Fluburtur> lots of
horsepower, good aerodynamics and extra thin wings
L356[14:07:53] <kmath> YouTube -
Explaining The Amazing Rocket Trail Over LA
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L358[14:10:59] <Mathuin> Ugh. Can't enter
R's into my kOS editor because R is for reload. Why?
L360[14:11:09] <Mathuin> Not why R is for
Reload, why can't I type R
L361[14:11:38] <Mathuin> S and E are also
unavailable.
L362[14:13:35] <Althego> years ago there
were several series on discovery with the same guy. how a * is
born, where he built car, helicopter, airplane, boat
L363[14:13:48] <Althego> flub, you could
make a similar series
L364[14:13:57] <Althego> how an rc plane
is born
L365[14:14:07] <Fluburtur> eh
L366[14:14:16] <Fluburtur> im not sure I
can make that interesting enough
L367[14:14:19] <Mathuin> Also super
annoyed that all the other addons grab keys when they're in the
terminal. Do not toggle the autopilot stuff when I type in the kOS
window.
L368[14:14:31] <Mathuin> But now I feel
like ranting-at-the-cloud guy.
L369[14:14:34] <Althego> the charm of that
was, that he built everything and was slightly silly
L370[14:15:02] <Fluburtur> I planned to do
a video on how to build an easy rc plane
L371[14:15:06] <Fluburtur> with a hot
ire
L372[14:15:08] <Fluburtur> wire*
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L376[14:18:11] <kmath> YouTube - CL-415
Canadair or Bombardier Water Bomber pick up and water drop
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L387[14:40:11] <bdk28602014> hello??
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L389[14:40:41] <Althego> hi
L390[14:40:41] <Mod9000> Hello,
Althego
L391[14:40:43] <bdk28602014> hi
moist
L392[14:40:47] <Althego> eh the silly
bot
L393[14:42:02] <bdk28602014> anyone have a
good starter station build?
L394[14:42:44] <Mathuin> I tend to build
to match contracts.
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L396[14:43:07] <bdk28602014> well i mainly
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L398[14:46:31] <Althego> these young
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L422[15:35:40] <Supernovy> Merry
Christmas, Gentlemen.
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L428[15:51:56] <Fluburtur> apparently the
french water bombers used catalinas before the canadair
L430[16:09:30] <Fluburtur> looks like
real
L431[16:09:36] <Fluburtur> check out the
video scott posted
L432[16:09:47] <Blaank> keep your eyes on
the road.
L433[16:10:08] <petti> I don't see
anything which would make it fake
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L435[16:28:35] <JCB> I wouldn't be
surprised... distracted driving is becoming a serious problem
lately
L436[16:29:02] <petti> people driving has
been a problem since people invented driving.
L437[16:29:05] <JCB> its bad enough cars
got so much already going on with the dash.. just hope you not
playing ksp while driving
L438[16:29:38] <petti> Just some jerk
fiddling with one's phone or somesuch again.
L439[16:29:41] <JCB> eh well.. I'm not
entirely sold on the 'ban non-automated driving' just yet
L440[16:29:58] <petti> not entirely, but
we will be pretty soon.
L441[16:30:31] <JCB> I'd like to see some
automated helping... still will need driver's attention incase
something goes wrong
L442[16:30:33] <petti> it's just not
sensible to try and have a slow moody meatsack doing the job of a
proper AI
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L444[16:31:07] <JCB> meh.. someone's going
to be moody, even when programing the car so...
L445[16:31:12] <petti> of course you need
to manually override and drive at walking pace to get out of
trouble once in a while (when the neighbourhood kids painted yellow
lines all around your car so it won't move anywhere).
L446[16:31:35] <JCB> lets not forget the
car hacking...
L447[16:31:42] <petti> That somebody's
code will not end up in the final product unless the whole dev/QA
chain has the same disease.
L448[16:32:25] <JCB> meh anyways.. rather
not get moody over this. Gotta go help room mate do some
shopping.
L449[16:32:43] <JCB> lates..
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L451[16:32:50] <petti> happy
shopings
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L455[17:25:38] <sandbox> You were kill in
ma swan!
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L462[18:03:15] <UmbralRaptor> ;choose
astronomical simulations\KSP
L463[18:03:25] <UmbralRaptor> kmath?
L464[18:03:36] <UmbralRaptor> ;choose
astronomical simulations|KSP
L465[18:03:36] <kmath> UmbralRaptor:
KSP
L466[18:03:43] <UmbralRaptor> hrm
L467[18:05:13] <ConductorCat> :3
L468[18:05:20] <Tortoise767> ;choose
continue writing code|nap
L469[18:05:20] <kmath> Tortoise767:
nap
L470[18:05:28] <Tortoise767> yeees
thanks
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L485[19:49:44] <Warrigal_> Man, I hope
manual driving is never banned in the US. I would be terribly upset
if that happened.
L486[19:49:51] <Warrigal_> And I don't
think it'll happen.
L487[19:50:51] <Warrigal_> Then again,
there's no Constitutional amendment saying that the right of the
People to keep and drive automobiles shall not be infringed.
L488[19:52:17] <ConductorCat> yet
L489[19:52:57] <umaxtu> you know what I've
been wondering about self driving cars? Do they use the horn when
someone won't get out of the way?
L490[19:57:29] <phroa> they make polite
little r2d2 noises
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L503[20:21:40] <Warrigal_> As far as I
know, they're still trying to make self-driving cars obey all
traffic laws. And I don't think it's legal to honk the horn other
than to warn someone of danger.
L504[20:22:24] <Warrigal_> Man, imagine if
they made cars which enforce traffic laws. Whatever the speed limit
is, they won't go faster than that.
L505[20:22:26] <Warrigal_> *shudder*
L506[20:22:46] <Warrigal_> The most
important legal right is the right to violate traffic laws.
L507[20:25:40] <Cranium> i think...that's
the opposite of following traffic laws
L508[20:26:06] <Cranium> that'll murder
your self-driving car, right?
L509[20:26:17] <Cranium> the whole paradox
and stuffs?
L510[20:30:34] <Cranium> how can you have
a legal right to violate the law?
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L514[20:43:51] <Warrigal_> "how can
you have a legal right to violate the law?" - Shush, don't
think about it too hard. :D
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L516[20:45:32] <Cranium> i try not to
think usually
L517[20:48:50] <Cranium> tends to make my
life easier
L518[20:51:17] <UmbralRaptor> o_O
L519[20:52:18] <Cranium> ignorance is
truly bliss
L520[20:53:44] <Cranium> alcohol is truly
ignorance
L521[20:55:54] *
UmbralRaptor probably had > 0.5 l of coffee today,
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L529[21:13:43] ***
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channel | Rules: http://archive.is/qxocq | PM ops as needed | ΔV
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