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L1[00:07:59] <kuzetsa> UmbralRaptor: for a
moment I thought your joke was referring to how much computing
power can fit in a pringles can - I nearly pointed out that a
generic / offbrand $40 smart watch is like an order of magnitude
more than you need for that old game
L2[00:08:40] <kuzetsa> heck, $5 raspi zero
is plenty
L3[00:09:06] <kuzetsa> and that can be
wedged between the chips and the can an not crunch any of the chips
I think
L4[00:09:24] <kuzetsa> ('cause pringles are
non-circular footprint)
L5[00:10:19] <kuzetsa> 58x23mm hmm yeah I
dunwanna do the math on that actually
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L8[00:13:11] <kuzetsa> heck, the MicroSD
looks big even
L9[00:13:29] <Althego> i make the biggest 9v
batteries in the world. nobody makes them bigger than me. huge,
tremendous, believe me
L10[00:13:31] <kuzetsa> "we live in
the future" [tm] and IoT is absolutely getting silly
<3
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L12[00:13:48] <kuzetsa> Althego: get
out
L13[00:13:49] <Althego> the s in iot stands
for security
L14[00:14:05] <Althego> come on, that guy
only exist to be made fun of
L15[00:14:20] <kuzetsa> you reminded me
of... actually nevermind why I... just no
L16[00:14:27] <kuzetsa> :/
L17[00:14:34] <kuzetsa> :( :(
L18[00:14:47] <Althego> sorry, i will go to
the bakery now
L19[00:15:13] <kuzetsa> I should be in
bed
L20[00:15:31] <kuzetsa> I noticed someone
pinged me on twitter talking about #KSPOfficial
L21[00:15:45] <kuzetsa> "oh right I
think I'm lurking in that channel I'm gonna say hi"
L22[00:16:10] <kuzetsa> hi everyone take
care of val she's great :D
L23[00:16:17] <kuzetsa> 'night tho
heh
L24[00:16:20] <Althego> where i can buy the
burned bread, and the ever decreasing quality other products
L25[00:30:22] <Althego> products as
expected
L26[00:31:57] <Althego> capitalism ho
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L54[03:30:46] <Althego> heh the game plots
the an dn points for the wronge ttrajectory
L55[03:31:12] <Althego> not on the nearest
one i need, but on the one after the encounter that shouldnt
happen
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L57[03:53:36] <taniwha> Althego: reduce the
number of patches (pause menu)
L58[03:54:18] <taniwha> it's an unfortunate
consequence of being able to plot multiple flybys
L59[03:57:45] <Althego> thanks
L60[03:58:37] <taniwha> but yeah, sometimes
even 3 patches is too many
L61[03:58:41] <Althego> somehow the result
became worse, cant force an equatorial orbit from there
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L63[03:59:24] <Althego> and this ship is
not able to aerobrake on eve, just the individual pieces
L64[03:59:48] <taniwha> you need to both
hit the SoI at the body's equator and have zero north/south body
relative velocity
L65[04:00:01] <Althego> if i choose to have
a near encounter from a different point i will not be on an
equatorial orbit
L66[04:00:35] <Althego> alexmoon's
calculator tricked me... even with 200 m/s reserve this is not
enough
L67[04:00:45] <Althego> it should have been
2 m/s correction
L68[04:02:06] <taniwha> after my (very
partial) reading of "Interplanetary Mission Analysis and
Design", I suspect many people don't correctly interpret the
calculator
L69[04:02:51] <taniwha> astrogation isn't
all that easy
L70[04:03:17] <taniwha> (easy enough when
you have plenty of ΔV, but being on a budget makes it more
difficult)
L71[04:03:44] <Althego> if i set mid course
plane change i would expect an injection, a plane change in solar
orbit and a capture
L72[04:04:08] <taniwha> odds are, you won't
be equatorial, though
L73[04:04:08] <Althego> or maybe
L74[04:04:32] <taniwha> only for Kerbin and
Mun will an in-plane transfer result in an equatorial orbit
L75[04:04:34] <Althego> it is not taking
into account the equatorial constraint. because why would it
L76[04:04:54] <Althego> it just give me an
orbit
L77[04:04:57] <taniwha> yeah
L78[04:04:58] <Althego> i can reach
L79[04:05:25] <Althego> nobody said
anything about parameters. you can set only 1, altitude
L80[04:05:46] <Althego> i guess i have to
do a very caution aerobraking
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L82[04:07:59] <Althego> i really dont want
to design an inflatable heatshield into this
L83[04:08:30] <Althego> it is also nowhere
big enough
L84[04:09:16] <taniwha>
<whisper>succumb to the power of the mod
side</whisper>
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L88[04:45:49] <Althego> managed to capture
in an elongated orbit with node at the far point, so i can correct
for inclination
L89[04:46:01] <Althego> but still need to
do aerobraking because not enough fuel
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L91[04:57:22] <Althego> hmm, inclination
0.03 deg, and i may have enough fuel for complete
circularization
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L93[05:06:52] <Epi> floor it
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L95[05:09:10] <Rolf> if its close enough
you can get out and push it
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L97[05:13:58] <Althego> 80 m/s remained 110
km circular
L98[05:14:15] <Althego> separation added 3
km altitude, i need to think of that next time
L99[05:16:35] <Rolf> nice
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L102[05:29:12] <Althego> ascent stage
landing, under 20 km
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L104[06:08:12] <Althego> landed 35 km from
the ascent stage
L105[06:08:22] <Althego> i could probably
do better but good enough with the plane
L106[06:08:48] <Althego> i am not exactly
sure how i am going to stop on water, but i will have to find
out
L107[06:22:26] <daey> is there something
like an randomizer for the solar system that mixes the planets
moons?
L108[06:23:21] <daey> the thing that bugs
me the most is that i wiki'd too much and know about all the moons/
planets without never actually visiting them :/
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L110[06:39:53] <Althego> now to fly 45 km
with 30 m/s on the infinite prop
L111[06:40:30] <Althego> daey: you can try
one of the planet packs, like outer planets or galileo or whatever
they are called
L112[06:41:39] <Truga> i'm playing
gallileo and it's neat, but none of the rocky planets have any
craters
L113[06:41:42] <Truga> which is super
odd
L114[06:42:05] <Truga> or moons for that
matter
L115[06:42:44] <Truga> i mean, there's
moons, they just don't have craters
L116[06:44:25] <Althego> i dont know if
its normal or not
L117[06:55:38] <Althego> descending
towards ascent vehicle. 38 m/s speed
L118[07:01:30] <Althego> heh swimming is
so slow i dont want to swim 4x220m
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L131[08:41:47] <Althego> test flight
complete. margins are quite small, but aside from 2 minor issues
everything works perfectly
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L134[08:54:01] <Althego> i dont dare to
try to fix the second minor issue. the return ship tanks start to
oscillate which would lead to destruction if physics is constantly
running. strangely it does this only if in orbit around eve
L135[08:54:09] <Althego> maybe thermal
issue
L136[09:06:59] <ve2dmn> Good morning
L137[09:07:28] <ve2dmn> I bought more
games this weekend on HumbleBundle and Steam...
L138[09:07:39] <ve2dmn> I think I need
help
L139[09:07:50] <Althego> listened to 8
hours of dragonforce
L140[09:08:22] <ve2dmn> Either that or a 6
month vacation to try all these games...
L141[09:10:20] <ve2dmn> Or maybe start a
youtube channel where I try all these games
L142[09:10:25] <ve2dmn> 1h each
L143[09:11:44] <Arcanitor> Althego:
dragonforce?
L144[09:11:47] <ve2dmn> I'm sure I could
get around 15 viewers
L146[09:12:28] <kmath> YouTube -
Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm
L148[09:12:34] <kmath> YouTube - Guitar
Hero 3 Through The Fire and Flames 100% Expert 100
L149[09:17:17] <Althego> and the speakers
are still not here
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L152[09:20:46] <Iskierka> TTFAF on GH is
actually harder than playing the actual song because they made it
so silly. The actual band can only complete it on medium
L153[09:23:30] <Althego> lol
L154[09:28:43] <ve2dmn> Iskierka: the
actual bands are usually really bad at guitar hero/Rockband
L155[09:34:53] <Iskierka> They do actually
try play GH. This wasn't just some one-off gimick, they just can't
play it beyond medium, even though they can do it for real :p
L156[09:35:23] <ve2dmn> I believe
them
L157[09:36:10] <ve2dmn> That song on GH3
is requires beyond human habilities
L158[09:49:33] <ve2dmn> Anyone tried No
Man Sky or Everspace?
L159[09:49:48] <Althego> hehe
L160[09:50:04] <Althego> i know a guy who
goes by the name "Anyone" on discord
L161[09:50:17] <ve2dmn> that must be
annoying
L162[09:51:00] <Althego> i think no man's
sky is officially not recommended
L163[09:51:12] <Althego> meaning, most
people dont like it
L164[09:51:20] <ve2dmn> sad. It looks
ok
L165[09:51:23] <Althego> there were some
upgrades to it lately, scott had video about it
L166[09:52:07] <ve2dmn> I have No Man Sky,
Elite Dangerous *and* Space Citizen...
L167[09:52:16] <Althego> star
sitizen
L168[09:52:17] <ve2dmn> havent' played
them
L169[09:52:29] <Althego> i have e:d,
havent played it since... 2015?
L170[09:52:40] <Althego> spent too much
time on ksp and dreadnought
L171[09:52:59] <ve2dmn> dreadnought?
L172[09:53:17] <Althego> a free to play
spaceship shooter
L174[09:54:29] <kmath>
<___HEDFON___> 〜電話にて〜 俺「あの、周辺まで来たんですけど…」 主催「周り居酒屋ありますよね」
俺「はい」 主催「信じられないくらい細い扉ありません？」 俺「こwwwwwれwwwwww」 主催「そこなんですよー！」
https://t.co/kgqvohyPxe
L175[09:54:46] <Althego> what is
that
L176[09:55:03] <GlassYuri> a door
L177[09:55:07] <Althego> a really narrow
door
L178[09:55:25] <GlassYuri> built to keep
the american invaders out
L179[09:55:31] <Althego> lol
L180[09:55:36] *
Arcanitor is a skinny 'murican
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L182[09:56:26] <ve2dmn> I would able to
use it
L183[09:56:34] <ve2dmn> barely
L184[09:59:41] <ve2dmn> Reminds me of the
ticket booth 'service doors'
L185[10:01:17] <ve2dmn> (in Japan)
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L187[10:02:47] <ve2dmn> GlassYuri: I have
a question... do you feel like the language barrier in Japan
creates 2 different twitters or are they used in very similar
ways?
L188[10:04:21] <GlassYuri> well first due
to the difference in how many characters you need to express
something there are no tweetstorms
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L190[10:05:18] <GlassYuri> but really I'm
not used to english language twitter anymore nor do I follow a
particularily representative bunch of people
L191[10:05:53] <ve2dmn> a lot more or a
lot less Emoji?
L192[10:10:07] <NomalRaptor> Note to self:
tweet more weird things to mess with GlassYuri.
L193[10:11:41] <GlassYuri> ve2dmn, very
little emoji in my feed
L194[10:12:00] <GlassYuri> depends on who
you follow though
L195[10:12:04] <ve2dmn> NomalRaptor:
define weird
L196[10:12:59] <NomalRaptor> ve2dmn: good
point.
L197[10:13:15] <GlassYuri> I just found my
ikegami line free ticket again
L198[10:13:26] <NomalRaptor> (lately it's
RTing sciency silliness and whining about computers)
L199[10:14:10] <GlassYuri> so last month
tokyu railway had this brilliant idea to make one of their lines
free for one day, as part of an effort to promote housing
development along that line
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L201[10:14:20] <ve2dmn> GlassYuri: isn,t
that a private line?
L202[10:14:44] <GlassYuri> you still
needed a ticket for some reason, but they had their employees
placed everywhere handing out tickets for free
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L204[10:15:03] <GlassYuri> it got so
ridiculous that at some point I had bent my ticket so I got a new
one
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L206[10:15:39] <GlassYuri> ve2dmn,
yeah
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L209[10:19:41] <ve2dmn> Iskierka: No. Just
No.
L210[10:24:58] <GlassYuri> NomalRaptor, I
don't think you really want to outweird some of the people I
follow
L211[10:26:12] <NomalRaptor> Hah
L212[10:27:07] <GlassYuri> like for
example that one guy who climbed the wall and now specializes in
all sorts of content that would get deleted on the other side
L213[10:28:55] <ve2dmn> climbed the
wall?
L214[10:29:18] <GlassYuri> great firewall
of china
L215[10:29:35] <GlassYuri> wall climbing
seems to be slang for VPN usage there
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L218[10:33:00] <ve2dmn> make sense
L219[10:39:40] <Althego> make: *** No rule
to make target 'sense'. Stop.
L220[10:40:01] <NomalRaptor> make
makemake
L221[10:40:25] <NomalRaptor> (This is an
actual line in the Principia codebase IIRC)
L222[10:41:08] <Althego> sometimes i
already have make written, i forget it, i type it again, then it
turns into makemake (which is a kuiper belt object) and i find it
funny
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L224[10:45:39] <ve2dmn> makémaké?
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L227[10:47:06] <ve2dmn> TIL: The dwarf
planet's code name was "Easterbunny".
L228[10:47:37] <Althego> and i still cant
get over the name of the li-ion inventor
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L232[11:15:15] <Blaank> Russia lost
another sat.
L233[11:16:06] <NomalRaptor> The frigate
wanted to visit the wayward boat.
L235[11:18:00] <Arcanitor> Blaank ?
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L240[11:45:19] <Arcanitor> if I put big
fins on my rocket should I add decouplers to ditch them once they
become unusful
L241[11:45:49] <ve2dmn> Blaank: <Insert
conspirary>
L242[11:46:19] <Blaank> decouplers add
weight.
L243[11:46:21] <Blaank> And drag
L244[11:46:36] <Blaank> I usually have the
fins on lower stages or boosters so they get discarded
anyway.
L245[11:46:47] <Blaank> Sometimes I need
them longer so I attach them to a stage further inwards.
L246[11:47:00] <Blaank> For example SRBs
usually burn out before fins become unessecary.
L247[11:47:01] <Arcanitor> I almost always
put at least small fins on boosters
L248[11:47:13] <Arcanitor> so the lopsided
drag pulls them away from the rocket and each other
L249[11:47:19] <Blaank> So attaching them
just to the SRBs leads to them dropping off when you still need
them.
L250[11:47:58] <Blaank> You can have extra
small fins that are elevron 1 and have them on the booster and the
lower stages so you do lose about half of them when the boosters
jettison but you are still well within atmos.
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L253[11:52:14] <kmath> YouTube - Crawl
through a B-29 Superfortress IN FLIGHT! + Real-Time procedures /
ATC - Oshkosh AirVenture!
L254[11:52:33] <Althego> if we could have
such a cockpit in ksp
L255[11:52:45] <Althego> the cupola is too
restricted because of the beams
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L271[13:12:38] <legion> yup.
L272[13:12:59] <ve2dmn> I wonder why
L273[13:13:13] <legion> and German being
our tertiary language is because they are our neighbors
L274[13:13:25] <ve2dmn> I can understand
30-40%... but over 90%?
L275[13:13:59] <legion> it is required for
your diploma's.
L276[13:14:18] <Althego> english
specifically?
L277[13:14:33] <Althego> cant choose
anything else?
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L280[13:15:00] <legion> yup. you can drop
german and french, take latin/spanish/others, but can't drop
English
L281[13:15:41] <legion> and compared to
german, engish is used EVERYWHERE, even on tv
L282[13:15:52] <legion> *english
L283[13:16:11] <Althego> engish must be
what engineers speak :)
L284[13:16:33] <Truga> yeah
L285[13:16:41] <Truga> english is required
pretty much everywhere these days
L286[13:16:47] <Truga> to finish
school
L287[13:17:31] <legion> i started reading
english sci-fi/fantasy as soon as i could...
L288[13:18:03] <legion> way before i
actually had english classes
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L290[13:20:21] <Truga> same, but monkey
island
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L292[13:21:23] <ve2dmn> legion: we don't
even have those numbers in Canada...
L293[13:21:59] <ve2dmn> I think more
people speak French-as-a-second-language in the Netherland then in
Canada
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L295[13:29:45] <kubi> ve2dmn: because
Dutch language is like a drunken English sailor wants to find a
German hooker
L296[13:30:42] <Althego> with a lovely g
sound :)
L297[13:34:24] <ve2dmn> legion: don't want
to go into politics but I know a lot of monoligual people in a
country with 2 official languages...
L298[13:34:28] <legion> depends on where
you hear it... so, so many accents
L299[13:35:08] <legion> like Belgians? you
are either speaking french or flamish (sort of dutch)
L300[13:35:22] <ve2dmn> kind of like that,
yes
L301[13:35:54] <Althego> hehe
belgians...
L302[13:35:55] <ve2dmn> Except in Canada,
the distances are MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger
L303[13:36:00] <legion> also, notice that
nowhre on that list is Dutch itself.
L304[13:36:24] <legion> even in
Belgium
L305[13:36:48] <ve2dmn> numbers are too
complicated in dutch?
L306[13:37:24] <legion> nah, just
weird.
L307[13:37:48] <legion> no less weird than
the french numbers though...
L308[13:38:23] <ve2dmn> sadly
L309[13:38:32] <legion> also, why is
English on the list for UK?
L310[13:39:03] <ve2dmn> legion: because
around 15% of the citizens of UK comes from outside the
country
L311[13:39:24] <ve2dmn> also, scottish and
welsh...
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L319[14:01:54] <ve2dmn> Blaank: in the
book that explosion is a bit more.... impressive
L320[14:02:06] <ve2dmn> The end result is
the same
L321[14:02:15] <Deddly> kubi, please
remember this is a place for all ages
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L334[14:43:41] <kmath> <elonmusk>
Why is there no Flat Mars Society!?
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L344[14:57:44] <kmath> <DJSnM>
@elonmusk I like to point out that while it's trivial to show the
earth is a globe, it's a lot harder to prove the…
https://t.co/6Eba0yyKfU
L346[14:58:36] <kmath> <lemiorhan>
@AppleSupport @Apple You can access it via System
Preferences>Users & Groups>Click the lock to make
changes. Then u…
https://t.co/fhb3TaplKu
L347[15:00:41] <Althego> hehe, i saw the
1.3 trailer just now
L348[15:01:17] *
UmbralRaptor hasn't upgraded yet. An probably won't
now.
L349[15:02:20] <ve2dmn> I own no Apple
product, so I can't test it
L350[15:03:33] <Althego> so how is it
trivial to show earth is round yet at least thousands of flat
earthers cant do that
L351[15:03:40] <Althego> (ok they dont
want to)
L352[15:11:04] <ve2dmn> Althego: it's more
subtle then that.
L353[15:11:27] <ve2dmn> What they think is
that someone, or something, is hiding the truth.
L354[15:11:42] <ve2dmn> a sort of
conspiracy.
L355[15:12:10] <Althego> the truth that
you can see for yourself with a theodolite?
L356[15:13:18] <ve2dmn> the only thing
they want to do is see flaws and destroy. Any good explanation is
flagged as 'must be flawed, I'll have to check later'
L357[15:13:57] <ve2dmn> They are like
movie critics which care only to find flaws and destroy a perfectly
good movie
L358[15:14:31] <ve2dmn> They are looking
for the truth. They are looking for the conspiracy
L359[15:14:47] <UmbralRaptor> It's a
rejection of large chunks of consensus reality, including a lot of
trust in instrumentation technologies. Compare with the "were
you there?" from young earth creationists.
L360[15:15:08] <ve2dmn> They are *NOT*
looking for the truth. They are looking for the conspiracy
L361[15:16:15] <sandbox> cheese
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L363[15:18:38] <Althego> the were you
there...
L364[15:18:57] <Althego> i can shoot that
right back. ah god created earth in 6 days? how do you know, were
you there?
L365[15:19:12] <Althego> but let's stop
with this here
L366[15:19:18] <Althego> i want to
sleep
L368[15:24:29] <sandbox> an interesting
thought just occured to me... how long was a day before the earth
was created? :P
L369[15:24:36] <Althego> hehe
L370[15:24:42] <Althego> or after
L371[15:24:50] <Althego> because there was
light before the sun or something
L372[15:25:49] <ve2dmn> sandbox: a day is
not a static thing
L373[15:25:56] <ve2dmn> it used to be
shorter
L374[15:26:18] <Althego> it is already not
long enough
L375[15:26:35] <ve2dmn> Some fossil
records shw
L376[15:26:39] <Althego> would be lot
worse if it was shorter
L377[15:26:41] <Althego> i know
L378[15:26:46] <ve2dmn> Some fossil
records show around 425 days per years
L379[15:26:58] <ve2dmn> but I don't know
how long ago that was...
L381[15:28:08] <sandbox> it worries me how
seriously people take the things I say sometimes
L382[15:28:17] <Althego> haha
L383[15:29:15] <ve2dmn> sandbox: I come
from the Litteral.net where we take thing far too seriously and
litteraly
L384[15:29:56] <ve2dmn> (I don't know if
this is an actual website.)
L385[15:30:07] <Althego> literal genie
trope
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L388[15:31:27] <Judge_Dedd> Religious
discussion (for or against) is really off limits here, sorry
people
L389[15:31:35] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
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L402[16:27:12] <Fluburtur> woooo
L403[16:27:21] <Fluburtur> they finally
added the australians to rs2
L404[16:27:38] <sandbox> ?
L405[16:27:45] <Fluburtur> vietnam
L406[16:28:05] <sandbox> ?
L407[16:28:13] <Fluburtur> the game
L408[16:28:18] <Fluburtur> rising storm
2
L409[16:28:59] <sandbox> apparently I own
that
L410[16:31:11] <Fluburtur> good game
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L412[16:59:59] <sandbox> I wonder what
happened to Abyssal Lurker (and various other people)
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L465[22:43:53] <Guest96996> ?
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L467[22:48:26] <UmbralRaptor> Well, that's
not a helpful question.
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L475[23:35:44] <kmath> YouTube - Geek
Spinner Demonstration
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