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L5[08:10:31] <sandbox> when does the cat
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L6[08:10:45] <Fluburtur> she was sleeping
inside
L7[08:11:08] <Mat2ch> you should've made a
gif :D
L9[08:13:18] <SargentSweets2> gonna add the
rest of the stuff at a later date, mainly moving the lander from my
fuel station down to it, I am gonna use Tasty's Folly as a staging
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L10[08:13:41] <SargentSweets2> Go easy on
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L38[09:16:39] <ve2dmn> Fluburtur: You
missed all the action yesterday
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L40[09:16:56] <Fluburtur> sad
L41[09:17:25] <ve2dmn> (some stupid
spammer)
L42[09:17:54] <flo> damn, this is still on
the subject?
L43[09:18:00] <ve2dmn> no
L44[09:18:20] <flo> it was a rather
'impressive' (as in quantitive) happening tho
L45[09:18:40] <ve2dmn> I just like how he
engineered his own downfall
L46[09:18:51] <flo> ok, there seems to be
more story that i caught.
L47[09:18:56] <flo> theres a 'he'
behind?
L48[09:19:00] <flo> that everybody seems to
know?
L49[09:19:09] <ve2dmn> it could be a
it
L50[09:19:18] <flo> but... a form of human
being.
L51[09:19:23] <flo> that is known to some
here?
L52[09:19:30] <ve2dmn> no idea
L53[09:19:31] <flo> has he ...it... done
similar stuff before?
L54[09:20:22] <ve2dmn> I just referencing
the fact that he/she/it renamed all the bot
'UNBanME+Randomchars'
L56[09:20:41] <ve2dmn> a few seconds later,
a quick regex matching banned all the bots
L57[09:20:55] <flo> yea, thats kind of a
dumb thing to do as a spammer
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L60[09:27:00] <ve2dmn> it's a transit of
the ISS across the moon
L61[09:27:56] <flo> one could tell by the
url ;-)
L62[09:28:06] <flo> aaand it is super
clear. awesome <3
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L68[10:00:08] <ve2dmn> ;in 9h spaceX
launch
L69[10:02:06] <Althego> have to watch it
tomorrow
L70[10:03:24] <transitbiker2> the heck
happened while i was afk-ing?
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L73[10:04:22] <Althego> something
wonderful
L74[10:04:53] <transitbiker2> ok david
bowman's inter-dimensional ghost
L75[10:05:06] <Althego> i wanted to hit him
every time when he said that
L76[10:05:22] <transitbiker2> "just
tell us damn you!"
L77[10:06:16] <transitbiker2> part of me
still expects him to tell the real story every time i re-watch the
movie haha
L78[10:06:33] <transitbiker2> as if he knew
i already saw the movie
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L80[10:08:11] <transitbiker2> prolly the
only 11 year old to rent those out, at least back then
L82[10:16:04] <Mathuin> Wow aerobreaking
with solar panels
L83[10:16:15] <Mathuin> I've, uhh, done
that on accident in game a few times
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L85[10:19:31] <Althego> remember they do it
extremely slowly
L86[10:19:45] <Althego> it takes months i
think
L87[10:20:34] <Althego> lol it says a year
long
L88[10:20:42] <Althego> that is even slower
than i expected
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L94[10:30:20] <ve2dmn> Mathuin: I would
like to add that KSP is not real
L95[10:31:02] <ve2dmn> The solar panels IRL
are different and CAN be reinforced
L96[10:33:22] <Althego> but they dont need
to be
L97[10:33:51] <Althego> extreme upper part
of an already rare atmosphere
L98[10:34:15] <ve2dmn> I know, but they
could be
L99[10:34:30] <ve2dmn> in KSP, it's pretty
much: AIR? BREAK!
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L101[10:47:33] <Fluburtur> I found back
the lighter I lost two months ago
L102[10:47:38] <Fluburtur> was in my photo
bag
L103[10:48:55] <Althego> light 'em
up
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L121[11:35:23] <Mathuin> In the
pre-my-time KSP folks would aerobrake multiple times like seven or
eight skips, according to the subreddit.
L122[11:38:29] <schnobs> Done that, just
last week.
L123[11:38:46] <schnobs> That's still
sensible (though boring if necessary).
L124[11:39:36] <schnobs> What no longer
works is to enter the atmosphere at whatever speed and expect to
survive.
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L126[11:45:17] <Hyratel> come in too steep
and you WILL pancake
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L128[11:47:01] <Althego> it works. with an
inflatable heatshield
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L132[11:52:10] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: As it turns out, one *CAN* simply walk into
Mordor!
L133[11:52:37] <Althego> hehe
L134[11:52:43] <Althego> how
L135[11:53:08] *
Scolar_Visari hands Althego a copy of Shadow of
Mordor.
L138[11:55:13] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassFragments: That is technically correct.
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L141[11:56:58] <Scolar_Visari> From what
passes as an article on BGR: "Without having any idea of
whether or not our needle-in-a-haystack signal is retrieved by a
peaceful alien race or a hostile one, many fear that we could be
setting the stage for the ultimate destruction of mankind and
perhaps Earth as we know it."
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L143[11:57:45] *
Scolar_Visari ponders if BGR's research on the subject consisted of
nothing but watching reruns of Independence Day.
L144[12:00:49] <Mathuin> Okay, the claw
isn't working like I thought it would. Drive up to another vessel
with the claw armed, and it should grab onto it, right?
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L146[12:00:56] <Mathuin> Regardless of the
parts which get clawed?
L147[12:01:10] <mabus> Scolar_Visari: is
such a thing even possible? yes, it is
L148[12:01:13] <Scolar_Visari> Yes, Heaven
forbid that a multi-million year old civilization bent on
eradicating all other sentient lifeforms would simply wait for them
to contact them.
L149[12:02:44] <Althego> lol plane
L150[12:02:46] <Scolar_Visari> mabus: I'll
be blunt, Hawking et al,'s concerns are totally imbecilic. If such
hostile civilization (or, civilization rather) existed, whether we
choose to initiate contact with them or not is completely
irrelevant. The comparison to the Columbian contact is dishonest
apples to mutant oranges.
L151[12:03:20] <schnobs> Mathuin: You need
a resonably flat surface and hit it it right angles.
L152[12:03:47] <Scolar_Visari> Althego:
Flat planes or flying planes? I always thought the former are
funny.
L153[12:03:49] <schnobs> Mathuin: clawing
1.25m tanks from the side is possible, but requires a good
aim.
L154[12:04:09] <KwirkyJ> probably been
brought up before, but there remains the open question whether
contact would closer approximate a clash of cultures or more
boot-meets-ant
L155[12:04:12] <mabus> Scolar_Visari: i
was merely taking the opportunity to make an ancient aliens
reference
L156[12:04:13] <Mathuin> I have the Mk3
Cargo Bay as my target component, so size probably doesn't matter
in this case. How right is right?
L157[12:04:24] <Scolar_Visari> mabus: Oh.
It's an old reference, but I think it checks out.
L158[12:04:28] <Althego> i cant accept to
send my brave kerbals to space inside a service module.i choose to
do it inside a fairing (through which they can teleport
magically)
L159[12:04:33] *
Scolar_Visari is only aware of the dude with the crazy
hair.
L161[12:05:05] <kmath> YouTube - Deadpool
2 | Official HD Deadpool's "Wet on Wet" Teaser |
2018
L162[12:05:06] <KwirkyJ> Althego: space
magic is best magic
L163[12:05:17] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
The force?
L164[12:05:18] <schnobs> Mathuin: I don't
know how much of an angle will still be tolerable.
L165[12:05:57] <schnobs> Mathuin: oh, and
you need to come in sufficiently fast, like 1m/s or so.
L166[12:06:02] <KwirkyJ> Scolar_Visari:
dunno. zi just said "teleport magically" and I was
agreeing. I don't know of any canonical force ability to that
effect, but, well, dark side yadda yadda path yadda unnatural
L167[12:06:25] <schnobs> So when it
doesn't attach, things will be bouncing and spinning.
#lolsokerbal
L168[12:06:30] *
Scolar_Visari also thinks its funny that one of the most important
anti-SETI papers published in scientific literature could actually
be used as a valid argument against there being hostile
ETs.
L169[12:06:48] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
Midichlorians, which I swear are just possessed mitochondria.
L170[12:06:56] <Althego> let's just say
there is a cut of the movie while they disassemble the fairing, sit
inside and assemble the pieces from the inside
L171[12:07:08] <KwirkyJ> sounds
legit
L172[12:07:15] <Scolar_Visari> Thankfully
Star Wars has been taken out of George Luca's hands and placed to
more capable, er, hands.
L173[12:07:41] <KwirkyJ> it's a mixed
blessing, but yes--thankfully
L174[12:08:00] *
KwirkyJ adds to list for next week
L175[12:08:30] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ: I
. . . I actually like the J. J. Abrams Star Wars more than any
other movie that isn't Return of the Jedi.
L176[12:08:31] <KwirkyJ> UmbralRaptor:
*pomf*
L177[12:08:50] <Scolar_Visari> What's
really funny is George Lucas only directed one of the original
trilogy's films.
L178[12:09:01] <KwirkyJ> that's fair. I
just note that they have a significatly different feel.
Again.
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L180[12:09:12] <zenon> Hey guys
L181[12:09:19] <zenon> Can i please ask a
savagely noob question haha
L182[12:09:21] <UmbralRaptor> *ouf*
L183[12:09:30] <Mathuin> Grr. Tried at
speeds of 0.5, 1.4, and 2.2 m/s. Alignment does look correct, claw
is definitely armed.
L184[12:09:32] <UmbralRaptor> zenon: it's
best to directly ask
L185[12:09:33] <Althego> suspended in a
xenon myst
L186[12:09:35] <KwirkyJ> zenon: don't ask
to ask. just ask
L189[12:10:00] <kmath> YouTube - KSP:
Antonov An-225 Mriya Speed Build
L190[12:10:12] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ: At
least better acting all around?
L191[12:10:13] <zenon> if you look at that
video ther,e you see how he shifts the wings inwards with a little
tool? what one is that?
L192[12:10:16] <zenon> I cant figure it
out.
L193[12:10:27] <Althego> we need bigger
stock wings
L194[12:10:38] <zenon> I can get to the
moon and back wihtout mechjeb but cant figure this out to save
myself.
L195[12:10:43] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: I think we need to message Ross 128b and ask it if
its signal from earlier this year was legit.
L196[12:10:45] <zenon> We do, But i use
the resize mod.
L197[12:10:55] <zenon> and its
suffice.
L198[12:11:04] <UmbralRaptor> zenon:
offset tool, I think?
L199[12:11:08] <KwirkyJ> procedural wings
was my go-to
L200[12:11:09] <zenon> ahh
L201[12:11:14] <Althego> offset tool 2 on
keyboard
L202[12:11:17] <Althego> 3 is
rotation
L203[12:11:20] <Althego> 4 reroute
L204[12:11:24] <Althego> 1 is the normal
place
L205[12:11:32] <Althego> thos icons in the
top left of the hangar are the same
L206[12:11:34] <KwirkyJ>
s/route/root/
L207[12:11:36] <Althego> in the order of
numbers
L208[12:11:39] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: watch it be a 419 scam.
L209[12:11:43] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Do you think you could send them a telegram? I'd to
it myself, but everyone gets angry when I hijack radio astronomy
control centers and start screaming about the truth and
whatnot.
L210[12:12:06] <Scolar_Visari> They even
fictionalized one of my, uh, incidents and made it into a movie
with Charlie Sheen.
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L212[12:12:28] <Althego> hehe
L213[12:12:34] <Althego> the aliens that
heat up the planet?
L214[12:12:38] <Althego> what was the
title
L215[12:12:38] <KwirkyJ> "If you want
truth, Professor Van Valen's philsosphy class is down the
hall."
L216[12:12:46] <KwirkyJ> *philosophy
L217[12:12:46] <Althego> i loved the
imploding grenade
L218[12:12:52] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: Turning satellite TV dishes into a radio
telescope?
L219[12:13:07] <UmbralRaptor> Althego: The
Arrival
L220[12:13:14] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
Says the Worst Archaelogist on the planet.
L221[12:13:31] <KwirkyJ> ad hominem
L222[12:13:49] *
Scolar_Visari would prefer to see an Indiana Jones reboot in which
dig sites are properly documented, cordoned off and
gridded.
L223[12:14:01] <Althego> hehe
L224[12:14:09] <Althego> and dont meet
random alien creatures
L225[12:14:10] <Scolar_Visari> Also: Stop
it with the stealing antiquities!
L226[12:14:19] <KwirkyJ> Scolar_Visari:
and then Nazis come in and completely blitzkreig over the
line?
L227[12:14:48] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
That's where the action would be. Prof. Jones getting upset that
they ruined his dig site.
L228[12:14:57] <Scolar_Visari> Like John
Wick, but with ruined antiquities instead of a dead dog.
L229[12:15:03] <KwirkyJ> I'm throwing
money at the screen and nothing is happening!
L230[12:15:09] <UmbralRaptor> Assuming the
same 50 year look back, a reboot would be set circa 1970 o_O
L231[12:15:34] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Hopefully not set in the modern era. Fedoras have
sort of the wrong vibe nowadays.
L232[12:15:40] <Althego> hehe
L233[12:16:03] <Scolar_Visari> Note to
whoever gets saddled with the next Indiana Jones: Bring back Nazi
villains.
L234[12:16:35] <Althego> kind of boring at
this point. still better than the russians
L235[12:16:38] <Scolar_Visari> What better
enemy for an archaeologist than a party whose ideology included
pseudohistory and destruction of historical artifacts?
L236[12:16:39] <KwirkyJ> why not go
further back? I hear the Russian Revolution is all the rage, what
with the century anniversary
L237[12:16:50] <KwirkyJ> (no Nazis, but
still)
L238[12:17:35] <UmbralRaptor> Why not
both? *stares at Hellboy*
L239[12:17:44] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
That'd be saved for the direct-to-VHS knockoff, Ivongorod
Dzhons.
L240[12:17:55] <Althego> vhs lol
L241[12:17:57] <KwirkyJ> A noble american
archaeologist, caught between the Bolshevics *and* the Czar
L242[12:17:58] <Althego> direct to
torrent
L243[12:18:25] <schnobs> Russian
revolution is too complicated. You'd need to establish who the
villains are, and why.
L244[12:18:28] <Scolar_Visari> "Nyet,
Lenin belongs in a museum!"
L245[12:18:42] <Althego> let the man rest
already
L246[12:19:05] <Scolar_Visari> Lenin looks
pretty well rested to me.
L247[12:19:15] <Scolar_Visari> All
peaceful like, just lying there.
L248[12:19:17] <KwirkyJ> Scolar_Visari:
"whoops--our ancient relic turned him into stone. Is that a
problem?" "Nope. Noble statue."
L249[12:19:39] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
The twist being that the Motherland! statue is in fact a frozen
giant.
L250[12:19:57] <ve2dmn> I would watch that
movie
L251[12:20:07] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: also, if you haven't read the laundry series by
Charles Stross, you should.
L252[12:20:19] <ve2dmn> It would probably
make no sense, but at least, it would be entertaining
L253[12:20:34] <Scolar_Visari> Ivongorod
Jones and the Temple of the Last Tsar.
L254[12:20:58] <KwirkyJ> Last Temple of
the Tsar?
L255[12:21:31] <Scolar_Visari> I'm going
to assume that the Soviet movie-goers would find it totally
believable if Tsar Alexander was into occult shenanigans.
L256[12:21:54] <KwirkyJ> I thought that
was Raputin?
L257[12:21:57] <KwirkyJ> *Rasputin
L258[12:22:22] <Scolar_Visari> KwirkyJ:
Nyet, that's only what they wanted you to think.
L259[12:22:31] <KwirkyJ> Izvinitye
L260[12:22:34] <UmbralRaptor>
Scolar_Visari: the real reason Alexander II was blown up: failed
summoning spell.
L261[12:22:42] <KwirkyJ> topkek
L262[12:23:02] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: Wanted to summon Ifrit. Instead, got squished to
death by Fat Chocobo.
L263[12:23:22] <ve2dmn> Was trying to
summon Alexander?
L264[12:23:50] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
That would've been too self serving. Besides, Alexander had a
really long Summon animation. Ifrit just got up and threw a rock or
fire or something.
L265[12:24:06] <KwirkyJ> slight
misinterpretation of "Alexander the Great"
L266[12:24:27] <Scolar_Visari> Knights of
the Round would've taken care of the Reds, but no one wanted to sit
through the entire summon.
L267[12:24:46] <Scolar_Visari> It's just
as well, Lenin had cast reflect on himself.
L268[12:25:23] *
Scolar_Visari chuckles at remembering how much one could spam magic
in Final Fantasy VII with reflect.
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L283[13:02:56] <Kalpa> Iskierka: Leaving
early is a sin
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L285[13:09:22] <ve2dmn> Iskierka: 20sec is
below the acceptable limit for japanese trains
L286[13:10:34] <Kalpa> It should be
unacceptable anywhere.
L287[13:10:57] <Kalpa> You. Just. Don't.
Leave. Early. Simple as that. Being late is no problem, but leaving
early, that's a sin in public transport.
L288[13:13:51] <ve2dmn> true
L289[13:16:10] <Iskierka> should a listed
departure time mean the start of that minute, or the end of
it
L290[13:16:32] <ve2dmn> it's just that any
delay above 15sec in Japan is considered 'unacceptable'...
L291[13:16:53] <ve2dmn> ...while our own
Metro system doesn't even reports delay below 2min
L292[13:16:59] <Althego> hehe
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L294[13:26:00] <Kalpa> Iskierka: I'd wager
start of the minute is the usual interpretation. Ie. "When the
clock says this much"
L295[13:26:24] <flo> oh lol
L296[13:26:29] <flo> have you ever been on
german rail systems
L297[13:26:31] <Kalpa> That's how we do
things here
L298[13:26:40] <flo> 2minutes isnt worth
reporting too
L299[13:26:51] <flo> but.. hey, so again
is 10min sometimes
L300[13:26:56] <Kalpa> If a train left 2
minutes early, I bet it would cause a ruckus
L302[13:27:07] <flo> this is something
that isnt going to happen
L303[13:27:14] <Kalpa> Of course if the
interval is 10 minutes, and the previous train is 8 minutes
late...
L304[13:27:17] <flo> just like you cannot
possibly drink acid
L305[13:27:31] <flo> i bet there would be
a way to add some more delay
L306[13:27:34] <flo> no really :-D
L307[13:27:42] <flo> its not time tables,
its 'try to reach that schedule, maybe'
L308[13:27:51] <flo> more of a
recommendation
L309[13:28:40] <Kalpa> Yes, yes, we poke
fun at the Finnish railways as well
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L311[13:28:51] <flo> nah, i dont think
this is funny
L312[13:29:02] <flo> last thing i remember
one of the german main railways was closed for a week
L313[13:29:04] <flo> eeehhhh
L314[13:29:06] <flo> 2 months
L315[13:29:15] <Kalpa> In any case I doubt
they leave early there either. Late, sure, but early? Nah...
L316[13:29:15] <flo> because deutsche bahn
thought 'hey lets try this new way of digging tunnels'
L317[13:29:18] <flo> and failed
haaaaard
L318[13:29:27] <Kalpa> Yes I hear you're
good at building airports too
L320[13:29:40] <flo> i dont know what you
think that 'building' means
L321[13:29:47] <flo> but it might have a
different meaning here ;-)
L322[13:30:29] <flo> but wait - theres
more ;-)
L323[13:30:33] <flo> check 'stuttgart
21'
L324[13:30:36] <flo> 'kombiloesung
karlsruhe'
L325[13:30:54] <flo> and a smaller but
also fine example 'leopoldsplatz baden-baden natogipfel'
L326[13:31:01] <flo> eh sorry g8
L327[13:31:08] <flo> not nato, that was
~15 years back ors o
L328[13:31:58] <flo> my last 2 examples
are even connected!
L329[13:32:06] <flo> one of the official
ladies from karlsruhe went over to baden-baden
L330[13:32:11] <flo> (after she fucked up
in karlsruhe)
L331[13:32:22] <Mathuin> So I finally got
that rover and lander on the Mun in the same place at the same
time. I saved since it was time to stop playing. If I come back and
find them exploded or bouncing I will be sad. :-(
L332[13:32:27] <flo> and one of her first
larger achievements now is a ~500k bill of 'uncalculated
bills'
L334[13:32:35] <flo> (sorry for the
monologue, too)
L335[13:32:52] <Kalpa> Hah, Stuttgart 21
looks like it's going as well as our Helsinki metro expansion
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L339[13:33:31] <BPlayer> Hi!
L340[13:33:34] <Kalpa> Of course our metro
project is vastly smaller in scale, with only ~€1billion price
tage
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L342[13:35:56] <ve2dmn> Kalpa: for a
population of?
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L344[13:37:35] <Kalpa> Uhm... well total
population of Helsinki metropolitan area is ~1 million
L345[13:38:05] <flo> stuttgart 21 has
brought us this nice picture which i cannot share here i
believe
L346[13:38:15] <flo> some old dude
protesting against the beginnings of the project
L347[13:38:21] <Kalpa> But the area the
metro extension will service will cover some I dunno 100k
additional residents? 150k mayhaps? That is, right now. Of course
the area is expected to grow during next 3 decades.
L348[13:38:25] <flo> just to have his eyes
'shot out' by water cannons of police
L349[13:38:28] <ve2dmn> We are planning an
expansion 'soon-ish', so I have to ask: how well do the Helsinki
train dela with the snow?
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L352[13:38:36] <flo> just to be
photographed to be n any newspaper front page :D
L353[13:39:11] <Kalpa> ve2dmn: Metro
generally deals just fine, but the main rail network... a bit
poorer
L354[13:39:12] <ve2dmn> deals*
L355[13:39:22] <Kalpa> It is a running
joke
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L357[13:39:54] <ve2dmn> We have no outside
Metro, but the new expansion might
L358[13:40:04] <ve2dmn> (that's why I'm
curious)
L359[13:40:17] <Kalpa> Really though the
main rail network especially around Helsinki is a mess, there's a
damn big bottleneck right before Helsinki central railway station
and it causes ripple effects to the whole country's rail network at
worst
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L362[13:41:25] <Kalpa> Then there's the
aging rail infrastructure (jokingly referred to as 'rails from the
time of czar', ie. some parts of the rail network are quite
literally still on foundations built during late 19th
century)
L363[13:41:54] <Guest18832> hmm am I
mistaken or does KSP not like missing files in mods? Like just
dying on startup if a dds is missing from a part
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L365[13:42:21] <KwirkyJ> it could instead
be a failure in a configuration file
L366[13:42:23] <Kalpa> There are some big
plans to improve the situation in Helsinki, but those have been put
on hold for next decade or later. At least they managed to complete
the direct rail line to the airport two summers ago.
L367[13:42:34] <APlayer> Dying is a very
sensible thing to do in a situation.
L368[13:42:41] <APlayer> In such a
situation*
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L370[13:42:52] <EricPoehlsen> wouldnt
'ignore that part' be better?
L371[13:43:04] <KwirkyJ> APlayer: I mean,
on general principle... I guess?
L372[13:43:25] <APlayer> Hi KwirkyJ, BTW!
Long time no see :-)
L373[13:43:35] <ve2dmn> EricPoehlsen: if
it's trying to load code, it will fail. If it's just rocket/plane
parts, it might not
L374[13:44:01] <ve2dmn> Kalpa: I feel like
everywhere sounds the same.
L375[13:44:15] <KwirkyJ> EricPoehlsen:
depends on how things are set up under the hood. In any case, the
error reporting is... poor
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L377[13:44:30] <KwirkyJ> and hi, APlayer.
yeah, I've been doing other things
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L379[13:44:37] <EricPoehlsen> ok ... well
I just updated from 1.3 to 1.3.1 and downloaded the ton of mods I
used before - and now I am trying to figure out which ones are
killing me
L380[13:45:03] <EricPoehlsen> or better
the start of the program
L381[13:45:16] <KwirkyJ> if it hands when
loading a part, look for the next one alphabetically?
L382[13:45:18] <ve2dmn> EricPoehlsen: logs
might help. I don't remember the locations of each though...
someone else might
L383[13:45:21] <APlayer> Remove them half
by half, to find the bad one fast
L384[13:45:32] <KwirkyJ> O(log2)
L385[13:45:57] <EricPoehlsen> looking at
the logs or where it froze on the startup
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L387[13:46:51] <KwirkyJ> guessing,
"loading part gamedata/somemod/somedir/somepart"
L388[13:47:01] <APlayer> KwirkyJ: Less
than that, because loading KSP will be faster with fewer mods
;-)
L389[13:47:27] <EricPoehlsen> yep
L390[13:47:43] <KwirkyJ> APlayer:
conflating big-O with big-theta, but yes
L391[13:48:04] <KwirkyJ> EricPoehlsen:
then as I said, the fault is with "next alphabetcially"
because it failed to load and read that part
L392[13:48:23] <APlayer> Well, KSP does
have some sort of loop that iterates through the loaded parts and
dlls
L393[13:48:41] <KwirkyJ> bear in mind that
if Module Manager is rewriting some part data, the error might be
hiding elsewhere
L394[13:49:00] <APlayer> But anyway,
that's nitpicky-ness of the highest degree on my part :D
L395[13:49:33] <KwirkyJ> also take my
advice with due pinches of salt--haven't played KSP in over a
year
L396[13:49:41] <APlayer> Anyway first
thing to do is track down the mod causing the issue
L397[13:51:07] <EricPoehlsen> it's
happening after module manager but I think I might have found the
culprit
L398[13:53:01] <KwirkyJ> this is why it is
prudent to add mods one or two at a time, rather than a large
selection at once
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L400[13:54:39] <EricPoehlsen> I know that
I was too greedy
L401[13:54:42] <oren> I don't understand
why the inflatable heat shield is so OP
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L404[13:54:59] <Supernovy> Evening,
Gentlemen.
L405[13:55:15] <KwirkyJ> Privyet
L406[13:55:16] <oren> I can one-pass
aerocapture ridiculously massive freighters using it
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L408[13:55:40] <EricPoehlsen> It is great
the combined heatshield - super-stopper - parachute
L409[13:55:45] <EricPoehlsen> :D
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L412[13:56:59] <oren> EricPoehlsen: I am
using it on a freighter that takes 10500 units of ore from munar
orbit to kerbin orbit
L413[13:57:29] <KwirkyJ> tonnes, oren.
tell us tonnes
L414[13:57:29] <oren> or 105 tons of
ore
L415[13:57:48] <oren> ore weighs 10
kg/unit
L416[13:58:07] <oren> the craft is over
200 tons total
L417[13:58:51] <EricPoehlsen> hmm so after
I probably will have to go to a new career ... - am I masochistic
and go with TAC life support - take the acceptable road with MKS LS
or just take it easy and let them be free of desires
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L421[14:00:06] <KwirkyJ> EricPoehlsen:
"we ask for advice to be told to do the thing we have already
decided to do"
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L423[14:00:55] <oren> EricPoehlsen: I use
snacks!
L424[14:01:05] <APlayer> Eric: Or take the
proper road and use Kerbalism
L425[14:01:25] <EricPoehlsen> Oh yeah let
them die of radiation additionally
L426[14:02:14] <oren> EricPoehlsen: yeah
but that takes all the fun out of it cause then u can't aerocapture
at jool
L427[14:02:25] <APlayer> Kerbalism adds
some rather fun aspects of progression, actually
L428[14:02:40] <KwirkyJ> You enter the Van
Allen belts. The radiation vanishes in a burst of rocket
parts.
L429[14:02:45] <APlayer> Infrastructural
progression
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L431[14:04:54] <EricPoehlsen> hmm first I
have to get the thing running at all - still trying to find the bad
fruit
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L434[14:06:17] <EricPoehlsen> still get
unfriendly crash reports ... Read from location 00000000 caused an
access violation.
L435[14:06:49] <APlayer> Removing mods
half by half?
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L437[14:09:05] <EricPoehlsen> If this goes
ok I'll move them back one by one
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L443[14:18:29] <ve2dmn> I'm tempted to
place my entire KSP folder under git... that way I could go back to
any previous point in time
L444[14:18:52] <ve2dmn> (as long as I do
frequent commits)
L445[14:19:36] <Mathuin> I used to have it
in Dropbox.
L446[14:19:38] <Mathuin> That was
chaotic.
L447[14:19:41] <Mathuin> But did the
job
L448[14:20:10] <ve2dmn> Multi-computer
sync?
L449[14:20:17] <Mathuin> Yes
L450[14:22:36] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: but
what license should you give your KSP install?
L451[14:22:59] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: why
would I need a licence if it's local-only?
L453[14:23:24] <kmath> YouTube - Going
Nuclear - The Science Of Nuclear Weapons - Part 1 - Just a
Theory
L454[14:23:38] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: ah.
I saw git and thought github. >_>
L455[14:24:18] <ve2dmn> my github repo is
crappy enouhg. don't need to add a full install of KSP
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L457[14:27:29] <Fluburtur> uh I need a
music software
L458[14:29:27] <UmbralRaptor>
Foobar2000?
L459[14:29:48] <Fluburtur> I mean music
making software
L460[14:29:52] <Fluburtur> with my midi
keyboard
L461[14:29:57] <Fluburtur> because I want
to get a music box
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L475[14:57:27] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: and
btw, you CAN have private repos on github
L476[14:58:03] <UmbralRaptor> ve2dmn: not
as a starving grad student. >_>;;
L477[14:58:24] <EricPoehlsen> well damn -
I had a wrong version of USI MKS downloaded and that was the
culprit
L478[14:58:28] <ve2dmn> UmbralRaptor: I'm
sure you can get the student discount
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L480[15:02:41] <Mathuin> Actually,
students get free private repos
L481[15:02:45] <Mathuin> I have my thesis
in one.
L483[15:03:42] <ve2dmn> nice
L484[15:04:07] <Mathuin> Enjoy it while
you can, the US House passed their tax bill which nukes tuition
waivers and makes GTAs and GRAs impossible.
L485[15:04:18] <Mathuin> My tax burden
will at least double from that one change alone.
L486[15:04:40] <ve2dmn> *sigh*
L487[15:04:47] <UmbralRaptor>
(politics)
L488[15:06:21] <Mathuin> I've been playing
a lot of KSP lately, at least I can save Valentina. :-)
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L490[15:10:06] <ve2dmn> 4h until another
launch
L491[15:10:55] <BPlayer> RL launch?
Which?
L492[15:11:05] <ve2dmn> SpaceX, Secret
payload
L493[15:11:10] <Mathuin> Zuma?
L494[15:11:13] <ve2dmn> yes
L495[15:11:25] <Mathuin> I wonder if
amateur astronomers will get pics after the fairing is blown.
L496[15:11:46] <BPlayer> 2 AM for me... I
don't think I'm going to stay up as long to watch the launch
L497[15:12:02] <ve2dmn> 20:00 for me
:D
L498[15:14:28] <ve2dmn> a night launch.
Reminds me of the delta 4 picture that destroyed the equipement
that took it
L499[15:15:29] <BPlayer> Sorry? destroyed
what and how?
L500[15:15:44] <ve2dmn> it's an old
story
L502[15:16:37] <ve2dmn> "This camera
in particular was not protected for this launch and the lens that
took it was destroyed. "
L503[15:16:48] <ve2dmn> "But the
camera still works! "
L504[15:18:37] <BPlayer> Heh
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L524[16:15:55] <tawny> she's
beautiful
L525[16:16:02] <tawny> or wait
L526[16:16:03] <tawny> he?
L527[16:16:11] <tawny> I forget which type
of peacock has all the pretty feathers
L528[16:16:28] <Fluburtur> the guys I
think
L529[16:16:48] <tawny> well he's very
pretty
L530[16:17:00] <Fluburtur> yeah
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L535[16:31:53] <Fluburtur> apparently the
germans have a million words for "apple"
L537[16:40:26] <whales> "apple"
in english didnt even mean apple until the last few hundred
years.
L538[16:40:34] <whales> it used to just
mean any "fruit" in general
L539[16:43:12] <whales> same with
"deer", just a generic term for any old
wilderbeasts
L540[16:43:30] <whales> theres my useless
trivia of the day
L541[16:44:59] <whales> (in addition,
unless i'm remembering wrong, "deer" is the
"der" in wilderness - just meaning, where the wild beasts
live
L542[16:45:02] <whales> )
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L547[16:55:47] <EricPoehlsen> Fluburtur:
that appleimage refers to the rest of the apple and it are regional
dialect variants - most Germans will refer to it with one of that
words all the time and probably not know what is meant by about a
third of them coming from a geographically distinct area
L548[16:56:15] <Fluburtur> good
L549[16:56:34] <tawny> also like most of
them are some variation of "Apfel-"
L550[16:56:38] <Fluburtur> I can know in
chich town of germany I am by throwing apples at peoples and hear
what they say then
L551[16:56:47] <tawny> which I feel like
it's kinda cheating to do that
L552[16:57:15] <tawny> feels kind of like
when you look up a rhyme dictionary and it's got things like
"duck / truck" and then "duck / toy truck" and
"duck / fire truck" and so on
L553[16:57:26] <tawny> like.. that's not a
different rhyme, what are you doing
L554[17:02:20] <EricPoehlsen> Well I'd
assume you'd not find out what the apple core is called but be
amazed that german allows for great
multi-composite-swear-words
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L568[17:33:08] <transitbiker1> medicine
for goat
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L577[17:47:54] <Warrigal_> Awright, I'm
trying to modify my plane so that it can fly at 35 m/s.
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L579[17:54:14] <Warrigal_> Problem number
1: the elevators don't provide enough pitch authority to rotate at
35 m/s.
L580[17:54:44] <Warrigal_> I guess that's
a pretty simple fix, in theory. Move the gear forward.
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L583[18:01:41] <Warrigal_> Yeah, that
seemed to work.
L584[18:02:48] <Warrigal_> Problem number
2: my stall angle of attack is about 30 degrees, but I can only
pitch to about 8 degrees before a tail strike happens.
L585[18:04:56] <Warrigal_> All right,
let's see what happens when I set my angle of incidence to 15
degrees!
L586[18:07:12] <oren> Warrigal_: thust
vector
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L588[18:09:13] <Warrigal_> Thrust
vectoring? The engine I'm using doesn't have that.
L589[18:09:25] <Warrigal_> It's the Juno,
everyone's favorite engine.
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L592[18:09:55] <Warrigal_> Well, this
plane flies like a wet dog.
L593[18:10:39] <oren> Warrigal_: use
infernal robotics to thust vector juno
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L599[18:22:46] <transitbiker1>
screenshot?
L600[18:27:57] <Mathuin> Use the offset
tool to rotate the engine slightly?
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L604[18:37:28] <Fluburtur> spider man
homecoming is pretty nice
L605[18:37:41] <Fluburtur> felt a bit
different from the previous marvel movies in a way
L606[18:38:03] <Fluburtur> also it's very
late and I have several hours of car tomorrow
L607[18:43:19] <Warrigal_> I heard about
those "drive new every two" programs. That seems like
it'd be incredibly expensive.
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L611[18:45:31] <Warrigal_> I found some
website that says it's "often cheaper than your phone
bill". What the heck?
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L613[18:49:32] <Fluburtur> my phone bill
is 2€ per month
L614[18:49:39] <Fluburtur> because I have
the bare minimum
L615[18:50:51] <UmbralRaptor> Pay as you
go?
L616[18:51:18] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never
paid anything for my phone
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L619[18:52:06] <Warrigal_> I think a
typical lease cost is something like $300 a month?
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L621[18:52:36] <Warrigal_> So if you pay
more than $300 a month on your phone bill, yeah, leasing a car can
be cheaper than that.
L622[18:52:51] <Eddi|zuHause> also, over
the past like 8 years i had a new old car every 2 years, which i
also didn't pay for
L623[18:53:20] *
UmbralRaptor currently pays $50/30 days for unlimited talk/text, 10
GiB LTE.
L624[18:53:52] <UmbralRaptor> (same car
for past 8 years)
L625[18:53:58] <Eddi|zuHause> 10GB sounds
rather pointless?
L626[18:54:22] <UmbralRaptor> I went
through basically all of it last month.
L627[18:54:24] <Eddi|zuHause> well,
depends on whether it's your main source of internet or just on the
side
L628[18:55:08] <UmbralRaptor> WiFi at
school, main at home.
L629[18:55:19] <Eddi|zuHause> back when i
had dsl light, the first LTE offer came up with 5GB/month
L630[18:55:34] <Eddi|zuHause> i said
"great, i'll have fast internet for 2 days"
L631[18:55:40] <Warrigal_> Or if you pay
the entire lease up front, then your monthly payment is $0, which
is less than your phone bill if you're paying anything for
it...
L632[18:56:10] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, paying
a lease upfront kinda defeats the point of a lease?
L633[18:57:03] ***
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L635[18:58:44] <kmath> YouTube - Gerhard
Polt Leasingvertrag verarsche geil
L636[19:00:41] <Warrigal_> I don't know if
I'd say that. The point of a lease is that you're purchasing a
couple of years' use of an object, rather than the whole
object.
L637[19:01:13] <Warrigal_> It just so
happens that usually, the term of the payment plan is the same as
the term of the lease.
L638[19:02:20] <ve2dmn> spaceX is suppose
to launch now
L639[19:04:07] <ve2dmn> but...
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L643[19:05:35] <kmath> <SpaceX>
Standing down on Zuma mission to take a closer look at data from
recent fairing testing for another customer.
L644[19:06:17] <ve2dmn> yes
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L646[19:06:30] <ve2dmn> sad
L647[19:06:43] <ve2dmn> so, no launch
tonight... ho well
L648[19:07:10] <ve2dmn> I'll launch my own
damn rockets! to Jool!
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L650[19:12:52] <ve2dmn> on a completely
unrelated note: anything interesting happening in the upcomming
weeks? I know of
https://desertbus.org/ tommorrow, but I also
know there is ussually more then 1 charity thingy going on
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L654[19:15:30] <UmbralRaptor> AGDQ is
soonish?
L655[19:15:58] <ve2dmn> January
L656[19:16:06] <UmbralRaptor> Bah
L657[19:16:42] <ve2dmn> but that's the
type of thing I'm looking for
L658[19:17:17] <UmbralRaptor> Unrelated,
have you seen The Farthest?
L659[19:18:34] <ve2dmn> is that a
movie?
L660[19:18:56] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah.
Documentary on the Voyager program.
L661[19:19:22] <ve2dmn> interesting
L662[19:20:26] <ve2dmn> AGDQ 2018: someone
is doing a speedrun of "Enviro-Bear 2000"
L663[19:28:05] <Warrigal_> Sweet, I
managed to make a plane capable of maintaining more-or-less level
flight at 35 m/s.
L664[19:28:59] <tawny> nice
L665[19:29:21] <ve2dmn> Warrigal_:
pics?
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L667[19:30:41] <Warrigal_> Sure
thing.
L668[19:30:46] <Warrigal_> There's just
one tiny thing I don't like about this plane.
L669[19:30:49] <Warrigal_> And that's that
it's terrible.
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L671[19:36:10] <ve2dmn> If I wish to visit
all the moons of Jool... how much dv should I plan for?
L673[19:36:32] <Warrigal_> There's my
plane, the Trainorz LSS.
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L690[20:14:10] <Warrigal_> Ugh, I'm damn
sick of the camera not defaulting to Locked for spaceplanes.
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L692[20:26:31] <taniwha> Warrigal_: KSP
has no idea what you are flying
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L694[20:29:07] <taniwha> Warrigal_: why
not write a mod that allows you to specify the default camera mode
for a vessel (probably a vessel module) and the mod switches to
that camera mode when you switch to that vessel (but otherwise
stays out of the way)
L695[20:29:32] <taniwha> (and before you
say you don't know how to mod: good way to learn)
L696[20:34:42] <Mathuin> Eh, KSP has a
good idea of types of craft -- rover versus probe versus debris
etc
L697[20:34:53] <Mathuin> However, I'm
annoyed that I can't get a crew report from a rover.
L698[20:35:05] <Mathuin> I have to hop my
lander to a scary neighborhood instead of driving the rover there,
which is lame.
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L700[20:35:36] <tawny> do you have a
crewed part on the rover
L701[20:35:49] <Mathuin> I've got three
fancy chairs.
L702[20:36:59] <tawny> hmmm
L703[20:37:02] <taniwha> Mathuin: not
really. KSP /guesses/ based on the root (or first controllable?)
part, but quite often that guess is very wrong
L704[20:37:18] <Mathuin> I've rarely had
it wrong, and when it was wrong it was usually my fault. :-)
L705[20:38:51] <taniwha> you haven't been
very adventurous with your designs
L706[20:39:01] <Warrigal_> If I can write
an operating system for x86, I can write a mod for KSP. :D
L707[20:39:14] <Warrigal_> Okay, here's a
question.
L708[20:39:17] <Mathuin> I tend to be
somewhat conservative. Last time I was adventurous, it cost me a
week of gaming time to live the adventure.
L709[20:39:20] <taniwha> Warrigal_:
:)
L710[20:39:23] <Warrigal_> Can I use the
F12 menu or something to set up a final approach for the
runway?
L711[20:39:30] <Neal> wooo, I'm touring
JPL tomorrow and having dinner with some rocket scientists
tomorrow!
L712[20:39:45] <Neal> subtract the last
instance of "tomorrow"
L713[20:39:50] <taniwha> Warrigal_: sort
of, there's a /ksc command that adds a waypoint
L714[20:40:26] <tawny> how do you input
commands
L715[20:40:38] <Mathuin> Huh, I just
selected it on the map.
L716[20:40:39] <Warrigal_> I'm starting to
get really frustrated with how hard it is to set up an
approach.
L717[20:40:39] <taniwha> type in the input
bar under the log display
L718[20:41:11] <taniwha> tawny: /help may
be of particular interest
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L721[20:45:37] <taniwha> Warrigal_: I used
to think it was hard, but after I put flags at either end of the
runway (off the KSC model so they didn't get gobbled by the
"clear runway" feature), I got pretty good at it and now
I don't really need them
L722[20:46:32] <taniwha> but having flags
at either end makes it easy to line up when you're within 95km
because you can put one flag icon over the other an you know you're
lined up with the runway
L723[20:46:55] <taniwha> the waypoint may
or may not be useful
L724[20:47:08] <taniwha> (I haven't used
it, just found it recently)
L725[20:48:05] <tawny> oh cool
thanks
L726[20:48:27] <taniwha> I wrote the
/rendezvous command
L727[20:48:36] <taniwha> and /vessellist,
I think
L728[20:48:52] <taniwha> (or did I just
extend it to give indices?)
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L730[20:52:36] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and
daughters of Kerbin: The planet you are trying to reach is no
longer in orbit. Please return to a new transfer orbit and try
again later.
L732[20:54:44] <tawny> oh huh
L733[20:55:29] <Scolar_Visari> Hopefully
this will perform better than poor Pegasus.
L734[20:56:14] *
Scolar_Visari also ponders the future of dedicated air launched
rocket carriers ala Stratolaunch, particularly if Virgin's contract
is successful.
L735[20:57:45] <Warrigal_> Oh right, I
remember this problem.
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L737[20:58:10] <Warrigal_> If I just try
to "fly it down to the runway", my main gear doesn't
touch down until after my tail has touched down.
L738[20:58:27] <Scolar_Visari> Like World
War II monoprop planes?
L739[20:58:54] <Scolar_Visari> Without the
high frequency of landing gear failure, hopefully.
L740[21:01:31] *
UmbralRaptor isn't sure if Scolar_Visari means monoprop like a P-51
or like an Me-163
L741[21:01:36] <UmbralRaptor>
<_<
L742[21:02:31] <Scolar_Visari> I was
thinking of the Bf-109 and its amusing tendency for its wonky
landing gear to defect to the Allies upon landing and crashing the
plane above.
L743[21:03:25] <Scolar_Visari> Though the
Me-163 sort of landed without much in the way of gear. That mostly
came off during launch.
L744[21:05:46] *
Scolar_Visari envisions German engineers explaining the Me-163's
perilous landing sequence to test pilots. "Nein herr pilot,
dat iz a feature! A FEATURE!"
L745[21:06:32] <tawny> oh gosh I just
looked up an image of the me-163
L746[21:06:38] <tawny> I'm kind of amazed
it ever landed at all
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L748[21:08:44] <Scolar_Visari> Some did
not so much as land as much as they did approach the ground at an
unsafe angle of attack and ended their journey with a sudden, fatal
stop.
L749[21:09:13] <Scolar_Visari> The
Luftwaffe was of the mind that one needed to break a lot of eggs to
make a really crummy omelet.
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L751[21:10:11] <tawny> how does
"rocket powered glider" even make sense to anyone in the
first place
L752[21:10:42] <Warrigal_> I don't even
know what happens when I touch down.
L753[21:11:01] <Warrigal_> But!
L754[21:11:04] <Warrigal_> This time, I
have a video!
L755[21:11:18] <taniwha> tawny: rocket
power to get up, glide down
L756[21:12:39] <Scolar_Visari> tawny: It
didn't really make much sense in practice, but that's Third Reich
Wonderweapons for ya'.
L757[21:12:44] <Warrigal_> Pitch at
touchdown is about 11 degrees up. Vertical speed at touchdown is
about 2.5 m/s.
L758[21:12:59] <Warrigal_> Tail strike
pitch is 8 degrees.
L759[21:13:00] <Warrigal_> 11 >
8.
L760[21:13:18] <taniwha> so have your
pitch at 7.5 degrees
L761[21:13:41] *
Scolar_Visari also points to the V2 rockets, the Elephant assault
gun and the StG-44.
L762[21:13:46] <taniwha> eg, nose down at
the last second
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L764[21:15:29] <Warrigal_> Yeah, that's
exactly what I tried to do in this next attempt.
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L766[21:16:53] <taniwha> how fast are you
going at 11 degrees?
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L769[21:20:24] <Scolar_Visari> tawny:
Though few things the unintentional hilarity of Reich weapons
research than the Kriegsmarine's first acoustic homing torpedo
trial ending with a u-boat getting sunk by its own ordinance.
L770[21:20:38] <tawny> hahahaha nice
L771[21:21:00] <Warrigal_> I don't
remember my overall speed there.
L772[21:21:10] <Warrigal_> So, attempt #2
here.
L773[21:21:22] <NeonGen> Schadenfreude
:P
L774[21:21:31] <Warrigal_> Pitch at
touchdown is 4 degrees down. Vertical speed, -5.75 m/s. Horizontal
speed, 100.90 m/s.
L775[21:21:48] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: the
torpedo was too good?
L776[21:22:08] <taniwha> Warrigal_: hmm,
might want to install drogue chutes (for braking)
L777[21:22:10] <Warrigal_> So presumably
the pitch there is too far down.
L778[21:22:16] <taniwha> ie, deploy when
you touchdown
L779[21:22:24] <Warrigal_> Nah, I want to
try to do a landing with no chutes.
L780[21:22:31] <Warrigal_> Like real
airplanes do.
L781[21:22:39] <taniwha> well, you might
be able to. worried about brakes, is all
L782[21:22:45] <Warrigal_> Oh yeah, good
point.
L783[21:22:53] <Warrigal_> Enh, let's not
worry about brakes.
L784[21:22:53] <taniwha> real airplanes
use chutes
L785[21:22:59] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Technically, it was only supposed to be used against very loud
targets (IE: Enemy destroyers), that they accidentally went after
U-boats running on electric motors is pretty hilarious.
L786[21:23:02] <taniwha> (fighters)
L787[21:23:19] <taniwha> commercial planes
land at much lower speed (about 70m/s)
L788[21:23:30] <taniwha> (they have much
more lift available, too)
L789[21:23:43] <Scolar_Visari> All the
more amusing given Germany's horrifying record of torpedoes not
exploding at all.
L790[21:23:59] <ve2dmn> so the torpedo
torpedoed the U-boat with a U-turn?
L791[21:24:13] <tawny> u-betcha
L792[21:26:04] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: The
U-Boat could not U-Turn fast enough.
L793[21:27:21] <ve2dmn> I should really
learn german
L794[21:30:50] <Warrigal_> All right...
I'm replacing the tail connector with a better one.
L795[21:30:59] <Warrigal_> Now I have a
tail strike pitch of about 15 degrees.
L796[21:33:09] <Warrigal_> 14.2 degrees,
to be precise.
L797[21:33:15] <Warrigal_> So I just have
to land with a pitch less than 14 degrees.
L799[21:44:34] <mabus> why is dial two
syllables but pile is 1
L800[21:45:05] <ve2dmn> because
english
L801[21:46:25] <Scolar_Visari> mabus: I
always say it with one.
L802[21:46:48] <Scolar_Visari> Dyle, not
die-ul.
L803[21:50:05] <Warrigal_> I think of both
words as being two syllables.
L804[21:51:13] <Scolar_Visari> You're
wrong. There's clearly only one syllable. Please report to your
local Ministry of True Pronunciation for reeducation.
L805[21:51:38] <Scolar_Visari>
Dictionaries espousing two syllables in dial are #FakeNews.
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L807[21:52:32] <taniwha> yeah, dial has
three silly bulls
L808[21:52:42] <taniwha> ;)
L809[21:52:56] <taniwha> or even four if
you really want
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Unit.
L811[21:53:10] <Scolar_Visari> You're
mistaken. There's only one.
L812[21:53:12] <taniwha> da-i-a-l ;)
L813[21:53:32] <Scolar_Visari> Help is on
the way. Please avoid standing next to windows until the MTP SRU
arrives.
L814[21:54:32] <Scolar_Visari> They really
like rappelling down from helicopters and crashing into living
rooms.
L815[21:55:25] <ve2dmn> taniwha:
Da-i-a-ru?
L816[21:55:46] <taniwha> ve2dmn: nah, just
treating l as syllabic
L817[21:56:20] <taniwha> and splitting the
diphthong and adding in the second a to annoy Scolar_Visari
:)
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L819[21:56:41] <Scolar_Visari> I am not
annoyed. Merely disappointed.
L820[21:56:48] <taniwha> however, I do
tend to pronounce "fire" with two syllables
L821[21:57:04] <taniwha> (syllabic
r)
L822[21:57:21] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha: It
could be worse. You could say, "fire" when commanding
archers to loose their arrows.
L823[21:57:50] <Scolar_Visari> "Fire,
men!" "What, fire? Where!? 'Ey guys, capn' says there's a
fire!"
L824[21:58:30] *
UmbralRaptor hides the hollow tipped arrows full of
ClF3.
L825[21:58:41] <Scolar_Visari> "Oi',
no, I think he means us to set fire to our arrows."
"Ooooh, but why say, "fire, men!" Doesn't make much
sense without a target in that sentence."
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L828[21:58:53] <taniwha> UmbralRaptor:
wouldn't FOOF be more fun?
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L830[21:59:31] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptor: An arrowhead large enough to hold a useful amount
would probably not go very far.
L831[21:59:38] <UmbralRaptor> tanifa: I'd
want something stable enough to be storeable.
L832[22:00:11] <Scolar_Visari> Why not
just us a ballista or catapult with the material stored in a
ceramic container?
L833[22:00:26] <UmbralRaptor> fair
enough
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L835[22:01:18] <Scolar_Visari> Though
maybe a slingshot could work?
L836[22:02:04] *
Scolar_Visari seems to recall pre-modern hand operated grenades not
being looked upon favorably by the poor soldiers who had the,
"honor" of running up to the enemy and lobbing them in
the air.
L837[22:02:09] <UmbralRaptor> An onager is
a giant slingshot, right?
L838[22:02:20] <Scolar_Visari> An onager
is a type of catapult.
L839[22:02:56] <ve2dmn> isn't a trebuchet
more eficient?
L840[22:03:14] <Scolar_Visari>
UmbralRaptoer: Onagers did, however, use slings instead of giant
spoon cups to hold their projectiles.
L841[22:03:49] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn: It
depends on what you're trying to do. Catapults typically had very
shallow trajectories (suitable for battering walls), somewhat
longer range and were easier to construct.
L842[22:03:57] <taniwha> an onager is also
a donkey
L843[22:04:06] <Scolar_Visari> Though the
torsion part required the use of sinew or animal hair!
L844[22:05:03] <Scolar_Visari> Trebuchets
had plunging trajectories that made them appropriate for flinging
things over walls, whether they be rocks, rocks covered in pitch or
cows covered in disease.
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L846[22:06:12] <Scolar_Visari>
Unsurprisingly, trebuchets with incendiary projectiles worked
wonders in a world where most building materials were horrifyingly
flammable, which is why castles tried to capitalize on the
non-flammable nature of lead wherever possible.
L847[22:06:56] <Scolar_Visari> Though
there were instances of fires started elsewhere melting lead
roofing and creating spectacular waterfalls of molten lead.
L848[22:07:16] <ve2dmn> Fire still is a
issue in modern times
L849[22:08:17] <Scolar_Visari> Well,
people don't typically live in houses held together by sticks and a
mixture of animal hair and poop anymore.
L850[22:08:27] <Scolar_Visari> Straw's
also frowned upon as a roofing material.
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L852[22:08:44] <Scolar_Visari> Japan sort
of did not get that memo in World War II.
L853[22:08:59] <Scolar_Visari> Turns out:
Wood and paper are quite flammable.
L854[22:10:04] *
Scolar_Visari does recall, however, Rome burning down a lot in
spite of the frequent use of concrete core structures with brick
exteriors.
L855[22:10:31] <Scolar_Visari> Then again,
Rome was one of those few places where having your apartment
spontaneously collapse on you was a leading cause of death.
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L858[22:11:45] <taniwha> Scolar_Visari:
however, Rome did invent rebar
L859[22:12:32] <Warrigal_> Holy
shapeshifter, I finally made a landing with no damage.
L860[22:12:39] <Warrigal_> I didn't stay
on the runway throughout the entire thing...
L861[22:12:46] <Warrigal_> But the landing
itself, yes, damage-free. :D
L862[22:12:51] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Dresden and Hamburg were kind of unique.
L863[22:12:57] <taniwha> Warrigal_:
\o/
L864[22:14:05] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha:
They also invented the functional basilica architecture!
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L869[22:15:43] *
Scolar_Visari does think the Celts don't get enough credit and
probably invented more than the Romans, who were eager to borrow
everything under the Sun.
L870[22:16:19] <ve2dmn> Scolar_Visari: we
have distorted views of the past
L871[22:16:46] <ve2dmn> Most of the
statues in ancien times got melted down for parts.
L872[22:17:06] <ve2dmn> Which means the
one we still have from the same era are mostly marble
L873[22:17:25] <ve2dmn> yet, that's a tiny
fraction of what was made at the time
L874[22:18:07] <Scolar_Visari> ve2dmn:
Well, ah, a lot of Celtic metallurgy is still extant. The problem
is that they were pre-literate and didn't write anything down. Our
own first hand historical sources are Roman and Greek.
L875[22:18:57] <Scolar_Visari>
Nonetheless, thinks like the invention of mail armor, for instance,
is typically attributed to the Celts. Not to be confused with mail
order armor, a recent innovation.
L876[22:19:36] <Scolar_Visari> Another
problem is that what we define as being Celtic is purposefully
vague.
L877[22:24:09] *
Scolar_Visari also seems to recall some sort of clever Celtic grain
harvesting vehicle.
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L880[22:27:20] <Warrigal_> All right...
*that* time, my plane was destroyed, but at least I overran the
*end* of the runway rather than the side.
L881[22:27:42] <Scolar_Visari> A
successful failure.
L882[22:27:58] <Scolar_Visari> The pilot's
sacrifice will not be in vain.
L883[22:28:06] <GlassYuri|School> wtf
javascript
L884[22:28:48] <GlassYuri|School>
attempting to change the value of a constant doesn't throw an
error
L885[22:28:59] <tawny> hahahahaha
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L887[22:30:08] <GlassYuri|School> also my
school still has computers on it with a version of winrar licensed
to the "state grid corporation of china"
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L891[22:30:40] <GlassYuri|School> "on
it" belongs to the end of the sentence
L892[22:30:45] <taniwha> GlassYuri|School:
actually, it very much /can/
L893[22:31:18] <taniwha> GlassYuri|School:
dunno about windows, but Linux puts constants into the
".text" segment (ie, code), and code is marked
read-only
L894[22:31:35] <taniwha> so attempting to
write to a constant causes a segmentation fault
L895[22:31:41] <taniwha> (or GPF on
windows)
L896[22:32:01] <Warrigal_> Scolar_Visari:
oh, and the pilot survived.
L897[22:32:17] <Scolar_Visari> Warrigal:
Yes, but they're still getting their pay cut for the wreck.
L898[22:32:23] <Warrigal_> Even better
this time... my plane remained totally intact, and I stayed
completely on the runway, albeit not facing the correct
direction.
L899[22:33:18] *
Scolar_Visari laments the lack of decent Roman citybuilding sims
since Caesar III.
L900[22:33:18] <lpg> GlassYuri|School:
what kind of javascript are you using that has const but you can
change it?
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L903[22:37:05] <GlassYuri|School> lpg: I
can't change the constant, but say "foo = 3" throws no
error and returns the 3 making it seem like it worked, but the
value doesn't actually change
L904[22:37:23] <lpg> what browser?
L905[22:37:34] <GlassYuri|School> lel no
idea
L906[22:37:37] <lpg> because that's a
bug
L907[22:37:40] <lpg> that's not
javascript's fault
L908[22:37:49] <GlassYuri|School> embedded
browser in node.js desktop application
L910[22:38:01] <lpg> well that's the same
thing as this, so it doesn't sound like you actually had a
constant
L913[22:40:12] <lpg> what... the
heck
L914[22:40:20] <lpg> what version of
electron/nw.js?
L915[22:40:27] <GlassYuri|School> how do I
check that
L916[22:40:34] <lpg> well how did you get
this tool
L917[22:40:41] <GlassYuri|School> from my
teacher
L918[22:40:48] <lpg> you installed it
through a package manager or something right
L919[22:41:16] <GlassYuri|School> no it's
embedded in a desktop application that I pulled from the school
server
L921[22:41:37] <lpg> lost cause
L922[22:41:40] <lpg> try printing out
navigator.userAgent
L923[22:41:44] <GlassYuri|School> so
winrar belongs to the government of china but google is in
korean
L924[22:41:46] <lpg> you're better off
just not trying to use any ES2015
L925[22:42:01] <lpg> or using babel or
something
L926[22:42:16] <lpg> (oh wait, try using
strict mode!)
L927[22:42:28] <GlassYuri|School>
"Builder Internal Browser"
L928[22:45:02] <GlassYuri|School> I can
select if I want to run in any browser installed on the pc or in
that internal browser
L929[22:47:39] *
Scolar_Visari reads someone advocating the preference that world
leaders be singles; notes that Mussolini, Hitler and James Buchanan
remained mostly single.
L930[22:47:55] <Scolar_Visari> That right
there's the true triumverate of evil.
L931[22:48:35] <Warrigal_> Oh
dang...
L932[22:49:00] <Warrigal_> I landed on the
runway, AND my plane remained intact, AND I stayed on the runway,
AND I remained facing the correct direction the whole time.
:D
L933[22:49:11] <Scolar_Visari> To be right
up there with James Buchanan . . . Surely a fate worse than
death.
L934[22:50:36] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: one more thing I have in common with hitler...
L935[22:50:56] *
Scolar_Visari hopes the other things shared in common are not a
toothbrush mustache.
L936[22:51:16] <Scolar_Visari> That would
make getting driver's license and school yearbook photos reaaaaaaly
awkward.
L937[22:51:25] <GlassYuri|School> I don't
share the mustache or the hatred for jews
L938[22:52:03] <Scolar_Visari> Uh oh.
"'Slaughterbots' film shows potential horrors of killer
drones"
L939[22:52:24] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: might also cause problems on visa renewal
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L941[22:52:36] <Scolar_Visari> What does
one call the opposite of the Ray Kurzweil hopelessly optimistic and
incredibly naive Singularity?
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L943[22:54:22] <Scolar_Visari> GlassYuri:
Getting any job would become exponentially more difficult simply
having the first name, "Adolf". Another thing Hitler
ruined!
L944[22:54:53] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: honestly in east asia the reverse might be
true
L945[22:55:47] *
Scolar_Visari momentarily imagines a skinhead named Adolf
brandishing swatstika tattoos applying for a job.
L946[22:56:27] <GlassYuri|School> .choose
untangle spaghetti code | add more content | animate the ui
L947[22:56:32] <GlassYuri|School>
...
L948[22:56:38] <GlassYuri|School> ;choose
untangle spaghetti code | add more content | animate the ui
L949[22:56:38] <kmath> GlassYuri|School:
add more content
L950[22:56:48] <Scolar_Visari> Adding more
content is adding more spaghetti code.
L951[22:56:58] <Scolar_Visari> THE CYCLE
CANNOT BE STOPPED.
L952[22:57:15] <GlassYuri|School> UI would
be more spaghetti code honestly
L953[22:58:27] <Scolar_Visari> IT IS NOT A
THING YOU CAN COMPREHEND
L954[22:58:30] <lpg> if your browser is
'Builder Internal Browser' you're guaranteed to make
spaghetti
L955[22:58:31] <GlassYuri|School> visual
novel content only needs some code where it branches, and in that
case it's justified to have it spread all over the text
L956[22:58:51] <lpg> spread... all over
the text?
L957[22:59:06] <GlassYuri|School> lpg: I
bet it's just chromium or so anyway
L958[22:59:12] <GlassYuri|School> vendor
says google at least
L959[22:59:14] <Scolar_Visari> Wait . . .
Why should a Visual Novel really need much in the way of UI? Why
animate it?
L960[22:59:17] <lpg> obviously like a
super old version of chromium
L961[22:59:29] *
Scolar_Visari hopes this is not some sort of creepy, "dating
simulator".
L962[22:59:34] <lpg> dating back to
like... chromium 27 or something?
L963[22:59:47] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: crossing ocean after the apocalypse simulator
L964[22:59:48] <Scolar_Visari> lpg:
Chromium 27 sounds like a very unusual isotope.
L965[22:59:58] <lpg> it's very unstable
and non-const
L966[23:00:08] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: it obviously decays rather slowly
L967[23:00:12] <Scolar_Visari> GlassYuri:
Oh, yeah, that. I was hoping you didn't turn it into, "Post
apocalypse love boat simulator" while I was away.
L968[23:01:02] <Scolar_Visari> Find love
on a repurposed aircraft carrier with a leaking nuclear
reactor.
L969[23:01:11] <Scolar_Visari> Freaking
romantic.
L970[23:01:47] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: that kinda is analogue: a hate story
L971[23:02:03] <Scolar_Visari> Between the
Cherenkov radiation and accelerating rate of hair loss, I'd be
crying at the end. Well, that'd be because of radiation poisoning,
but still.
L972[23:02:27] <Scolar_Visari> GlassYuri:
Yeah, but that's with robots aboard a depopulated generation ship.
That's . . . Somewhat creepier in retrospect.
L973[23:03:34] <Scolar_Visari> It's like
Alien: Isolation, but in literal Space Korea.
L974[23:04:09] <GlassYuri|School> there's
no robots right? just sentient AI with no connection to the
physical world right
L975[23:04:27] <Scolar_Visari> They're
just robots one and all. Unless they have a printer, than they're
no longer roobts.
L976[23:05:25] *
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thing in the hit television series The Last Ship.
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L978[23:05:41] <GlassYuri|School> you
mentioned that already
L979[23:06:26] <Scolar_Visari> Did I
mention it has an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer and
that one of the episodes in the first season used the USS Missouri
as a stand-in for a Kirov-class battlecruiser?
L980[23:07:00] <Scolar_Visari> I remember
watching that episode and thinking, "Look! They've wandered on
to the set of Under Siege!"
L981[23:07:12] <GlassYuri|School> you may
or may not have mentioned that
L982[23:09:17] <Gasher[work]> a common
sense tells me that a soviet missile cruiser kind of lacks all of
the battleship's main guns
L983[23:09:36] <GlassYuri|School> then how
does it shoot missiles
L984[23:09:39] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
It's not like it'd be possible to film aboard an actual
Kirov.
L985[23:09:51] <Scolar_Visari> Glass:
Nearly vertical launch cells.
L986[23:09:52] <tawny> that's quitter
talk
L987[23:10:17] <tawny> I'm sure the
russians won't mind if you borrow one for a few minutes
L988[23:10:25] <Gasher[work]>
Scolar_Visari, i'm sort of ok with that in film, it was a general
statement
L990[23:10:37] <Gasher[work]> tawny, if it
was in 90s it could happen
L991[23:10:45] <Gasher[work]> * have
happened
L992[23:10:50] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
They also had the original Queen Mary stand in for a modern ocean
liner.
L993[23:10:59] <tawny> oh, are they all
scuttled by now
L994[23:11:10] <Scolar_Visari> I think the
budget situation improved dramatically with the subsequent seasons,
which featured more missiles.
L995[23:11:12] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: I mean it kinda does look like a battleship without
guns
L996[23:11:13] <tawny> I figured you could
steal- I mean borrow- one from their ship graveyards
L997[23:11:44] <Gasher[work]> tawny, yeah
airship era has ended
L998[23:11:50] <Scolar_Visari> GlassYuri:
Not enough space in the rear for a stern mounted turret.
L999[23:12:22] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: also with two bow turrets the rear one would be
lower than the one in front, causing projectile path issues
L1000[23:12:40] <Scolar_Visari> tawny:
Two Kirov-class battlecruisers are still in service, and a third
could be modernized albeit at what I'm guessing is a totally
unreasonable cost.
L1001[23:13:07] <Gasher[work]> what
L1002[23:13:20] <Gasher[work]> only one
is in service
L1003[23:13:35] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
One is awaiting refit, technically in service.
L1004[23:13:56] <Gasher[work]> em, when
did it last sail
L1005[23:14:04] <Scolar_Visari> Only one
Typhoon-class ballistic missile submarine, however, is in service.
The others are scrapped or have beeen mothballed.
L1006[23:14:07] <Gasher[work]> lol since
99
L1007[23:14:14] <Gasher[work]> totally in
service
L1008[23:14:34] <Gasher[work]> planned to
finish in 2021
L1009[23:15:37] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
Again, technically in service,
L1010[23:15:52] <Gasher[work]> ok, let's
say not scrapped
L1011[23:16:18] <Scolar_Visari> Refits
for nuclear powered ships are tremendously expensive and
timeconsuming, and I imagine the economic situation in Russia is
what is responsible for the delays to the surface fleet's
modernization.
L1012[23:18:13] *
Scolar_Visari notes the U.S. experience with nuclear powered
surface vessels.
L1013[23:18:32] <Gasher[work]> also the
other cruiser is going to maintenance in 2018
L1014[23:18:53] <Gasher[work]> also until
2021
L1015[23:19:17] <Scolar_Visari> In the
USN's case, aircraft carriers seem to be the only nuclear powered
surface vessels worth the effort of modernizing.
L1016[23:19:40] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
Probably longer if things do not improve. Ditto with Soyuz
replacements!
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L1020[23:29:06] <GlassYuri|School> how do
you take hostages in japanese
L1021[23:29:25] <GlassYuri|School> I need
this for my game, why does language school not cover that
stuff
L1022[23:29:58] <Gasher[work]> because
they don't take prisoners?
L1023[23:30:55] <Scolar_Visari>
"What is, "hostage"?" "Well it's sort of
like being a guest at a party you don't want to go to but your
mother made you attend because she thought it be a nice gesture to
that one weird kid from school that lights things on
fire."
L1024[23:31:59] <Gasher[work]>
Scolar_Visari, you missed the point of punishment of
disagreeing
L1025[23:32:22] <Scolar_Visari> Gasher:
That's implied punishment, the best kind.
L1026[23:33:08] <Scolar_Visari>
"Alright, if you don't want to go to little Jimmy Schmidt's
birthday party, I guess I'm going to have to shoot one of your
action figures for every hour you remain."
L1027[23:33:35] *
Scolar_Visari imagines this is what it would be like to have Hans
Gruber as a parent.
L1028[23:34:34] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: In order to appropriately communicate what a hostage is,
I recommend sharing in the Christmas classic that is Die
Hard.
L1029[23:34:51] <Scolar_Visari> No matter
the language, Die Hard is a film that resonates with any
audience.
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L1033[23:35:46] <Scolar_Visari> Also, I
sort of bring that up because it takes place in the national
headquarters of a Japanese corporation back in the decade where
people thought they would become in the 90s what people think China
will become in the 20s.
L1034[23:36:07] <GlassYuri|School> would
you play a visual novel that had "okay so I cannot really
convey this in text form just watch die hard and you'll know what I
mean" in it?
L1035[23:36:08] <Scolar_Visari> RoboCop 3
also works if you don't end the movie prematurely in shame.
L1036[23:36:27] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: Absolutely.
L1037[23:36:58] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: so you're saying that china will crash into
irrelevancy in the 20s
L1038[23:37:40] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: Not at all. I'm saying that they won't take over the
world like Japan was envisioned to when they bought out Detroit in
RoboCop 3.
L1039[23:37:57] *
Scolar_Visari also recalls Back to the Future Part 2 falling prey
to the same trope.
L1040[23:38:23] <GlassYuri|School> isn't
china already closer to taking over the world than japan has ever
been
L1041[23:38:33] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: Not really. No.
L1042[23:40:06] *
Scolar_Visari chuckles at the common misconception of U.S. debt in
particular being wholly owned by China, rather than being mostly
domestically owned as it is in reality.
L1043[23:40:22] <GlassYuri|School> I
didn't mean the US debt
L1044[23:40:41] <taniwha> china isn't
anywhere near taking over the world
L1045[23:41:08] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha:
That distinction belongs to Norway.
L1046[23:41:39] <taniwha> and with their
"one child policy" resulting in one son, China's
population will crash is a generation or two
L1047[23:42:11] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha:
Er, I think the policy's expired and was not rigorously enforced in
the countryside, where many children simply went unregistered with
the state.
L1048[23:42:25] *
Scolar_Visari notes China still has a surprisingly large rural
population.
L1049[23:42:38] <GlassYuri|School>
taniwha: one child policy IIRC excepts people who already were an
only child, and it's been downgraded to two children
L1050[23:43:14] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: IIRC it's supposed to work by fining you when you
register another child
L1051[23:43:25] <taniwha> Scolar_Visari:
not that surprising, but rural china won't be taking over the world
any time soon, either
L1052[23:44:08] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: as was mentioned, it wasn't very well enforced. The
recent registering of such, "lost" children has become an
interesting phenomenon.
L1053[23:44:14] <taniwha> I imagine
unregistered = no benefits
L1054[23:44:33] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha:
There weren't that many benefits to be had out in the rural areas,
though urbanization is changing things once again.
L1055[23:45:09] <taniwha> hard to say
what I saw was, since it was back in the early 80s
L1056[23:45:15] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: supposedly there is a system in place for
registering... IIRC being unregistered gives you no access to
healthcare, education and employment or some crap like that
L1057[23:45:21] <taniwha> (ie, urban,
rural, etc)
L1058[23:45:34] <GlassYuri|School> as in
registering for adults or teenagers who grew up unregistered
L1059[23:45:52] *
Scolar_Visari imagines a 'fix' being implemented in the near
future.
L1060[23:46:05] <Scolar_Visari> Lots of
people moving into the cities could cause issues otherwise.
L1061[23:46:44] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: even moving to a city used to be a greyzone
L1062[23:47:36] <Scolar_Visari> taniwha:
It's important to remember that throughout most human history,
cities didn't really populate on their own. They required a
constant influx of people from the countryside, particularly since
(until recently) cities tended to be invariably more unhealthy and
squalid.
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L1065[23:48:10] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: If a fix or allowance isn't implemented, they're likely
to have a huge black market for unregistered labor working at below
mean wage.
L1066[23:48:31] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: you're saying that like they don't already have that
issue
L1067[23:48:57] <Scolar_Visari> I'm
saying it will get worse but they have the way to fix it now with
the policy's official end.
L1068[23:49:33] <Scolar_Visari> Again,
this wasn't *as* serious back in the older countryside when the
benefits were less tangible.
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L1071[23:50:44] <Scolar_Visari>
Particularly since there were many exceptions for rural areas
already.
L1072[23:52:42] <GlassYuri|School> anyway
the biggest issue with china that personally affects me is the
language barrier
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L1074[23:54:13] <Scolar_Visari> It's the
same as any other: Buy a Babel Fish and stick it in yur' ear.
L1075[23:55:13] <GlassYuri|School> my
trust in translations is forever ruined
L1076[23:55:25] <GlassYuri|School> I'd
rather learn all the languages myself
L1077[23:55:55] <Scolar_Visari> I once
had a browser translate a Japanese scientific paper into English.
I'm still not sure what it said.
L1078[23:56:23] <Althego> hehe
L1079[23:56:28] <GlassYuri|School> ...if
you know enough languages you can live off giving ted talks
bragging about your language skills right?
L1080[23:56:47] <Scolar_Visari>
GlassYuri: It gets rather irritating when you have words that have
no equivalent in the language you're translating to.
L1081[23:57:35] <Scolar_Visari> Thus one
requires a long, jumbled description that sounds like the title for
a smashing anime despite using what would be a dirt common word in
the other language.
L1082[23:57:55] <GlassYuri|School>
Scolar_Visari: yeah, that's just weird
L1083[23:58:22] *
Scolar_Visari seems to recall translated Japanese poetry having
this issue.