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L1[00:00:00] <Izaya> only got a CD-ROM drive which is a pain
L2[00:00:07] <CompanionCube> netboot?
L3[00:00:10] <bad at​ vijya> [sigh]
L4[00:00:25] <bad at​ vijya> generic ata not working smh
L5[00:00:25] <Izaya> eh, maybe
L6[00:03:01] <CompanionCube> today on 'good ideas with terrible intentions' we have: https://mjtsai.com/blog/2020/08/19/apple-silicon-macs-to-require-signed-code/
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L8[00:07:08] <Izaya> bad_at_vijya: sidenote, you do know you can run LuPi as a normal piece of software right
L9[00:07:14] <Izaya> doesn't need to be run as init, technically
L10[00:08:19] <CompanionCube> Izaya: 'This new behavior doesn’t change the long-established policy that our users and developers can run arbitrary code on their Macs' imagine having to explicitly spell this out
L11[00:08:45] <CompanionCube> also fuck 'policy' it's not a strong enough word, it implies it's your decision and benevolence.
L12[00:08:48] <Izaya> well, they are some of the earliest to forbid it on a large scale
L13[00:08:54] <bad at​ vijya> yes comma but
L14[00:08:58] <bad at​ vijya> i want Tsuki as an OS
L15[00:09:00] <bad at​ vijya> also
L16[00:09:10] <Izaya> yeah but you can use it for testing
L17[00:09:13] <bad at​ vijya> only one PATA controller was enabled
L18[00:09:24] <bad at​ vijya> so
L19[00:09:25] <bad at​ vijya> uh
L20[00:09:29] <bad at​ vijya> that explains that
L21[00:09:33] <bad at​ vijya> i uh
L22[00:09:45] <bad at​ vijya> just enabled the VIA controller
L23[00:09:52] <bad at​ vijya> also i should make serial ports show up as linked cards
L24[00:10:24] * CompanionCube actually wouldn't mind using something like apple's system but fuck their implicit goals
L25[00:10:46] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L26[00:10:49] <bad at​ vijya> time to recompile
L27[00:10:50] <bad at​ vijya> :)
L28[00:11:00] <CompanionCube> code-signing witout the 'the only trusted root is apple' is a win-win
L29[00:12:19] <bad at​ vijya> also Izaya
L30[00:12:29] <bad at​ vijya> did i tell you how i got LuPi to actually compile on arch
L31[00:12:36] <bad at​ vijya> it's great
L32[00:12:43] <Izaya> no, but I got it working on arch /o/
L33[00:12:52] <bad at​ vijya> i updated the kernel it grabs to the latest LTS
L34[00:12:54] <bad at​ vijya> and uh
L35[00:13:02] <bad at​ vijya> piped `yes ""` into the make command
L36[00:13:24] <Izaya> lmao
L37[00:13:29] <CompanionCube> If you want lupi-as-init it could be containerised lol
L38[00:13:49] <dequbed> Izaya: No.
L39[00:13:50] <bad at​ vijya> anyways
L40[00:13:52] <bad at​ vijya> with this honestly
L41[00:13:55] <bad at​ vijya> amazing experience
L42[00:14:04] <bad at​ vijya> i can now create a linux distro that only uses VELXs
L43[00:15:30] <dequbed> CompanionCube: The part that made me squirm was "includes signatures which are now generated automatically by the linker" though.
L44[00:16:13] <CompanionCube> dequbed: worried about fingerprinting, i guess?
L45[00:17:07] <Izaya> when you get it booted, modify the bios.lua to save how much memory is used on boot
L46[00:17:35] <Izaya> I'm curious about the overhead of the environment
L47[00:17:35] <dequbed> CompanionCube: Either their linking loader does crypto, their code signing doesn't extend beyond the loader or they have to *also* completely remove dynamic linking anything but signed, hand-delivered bespoke objects from Apple Inc. themselves. And I don't know which one is worse.
L48[00:18:12] <CompanionCube> imagine the former, probably have the code-signing infrastructure already
L49[00:19:02] <bad at​ vijya> i just saw
L50[00:19:06] <bad at​ vijya> /dev/srX show up
L51[00:19:06] <bad at​ vijya> so
L52[00:19:09] <bad at​ vijya> that's nice
L53[00:21:00] <bad at​ vijya> oh my fucking god i want to brain myself
L54[00:21:17] <bad at​ vijya> the disk shows up
L55[00:21:20] <bad at​ vijya> but partitions don't
L56[00:21:33] <CompanionCube> did you enable the partition tables
L57[00:21:35] <bad at​ vijya> does it not have GPT support?
L58[00:22:43] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L59[00:22:50] <bad at​ vijya> it--what
L60[00:22:59] <bad at​ vijya> jfc i need to get higher res screen output
L61[00:33:58] <S3> I like how irccloud lets me set up a bouncer connection so I can use irssi with it
L62[00:42:42] <bad at​ vijya> cannot open root device: error -2
L63[00:42:43] <bad at​ vijya> wtf
L64[00:44:10] <dequbed> CompanionCube: poking a bit at the dyld code; I *want* to like this. It's a generally good idea. But I just can't shake the feeling that Apple will abuse this to the detriment of users. Also the way dyld works I do wonder if you could bypass signature checking by passing it an invalid mach-o, it *does* execute a *lot* of bytecode straight from the header at places where it appears to be still able to disable sig checking for pages.
L65[00:44:26] <CompanionCube> dequbed: hence the 'terrible intentions'
L66[00:49:06] <bad at​ vijya> G A H
L67[00:49:15] <bad at​ vijya> the fucking thing shows up
L68[00:49:31] <bad at​ vijya> /dev/sda7 is fucking valid but nOoOoO
L69[00:49:35] <bad at​ vijya> can't boot from it
L70[00:49:37] <bad at​ vijya> what the FUCK
L71[00:50:46] <bad at​ vijya> `[ 6.619288] 0807 204800 sda7 62a86e70-92c4-11ea-a355-000476234b66`
L72[00:50:49] <bad at​ vijya> RIGHT HERE
L73[00:50:58] <bad at​ vijya> WHY CAN YOU NOT OPEN IT
L74[00:57:00] <Amanda> %choose irradiate or space or rain box
L75[00:57:00] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I spy with my robotic eye something beginning with "irradiate"!
L76[01:06:36] <S3> oh hey Amanda
L77[01:07:03] <S3> Izaya: Are you the maintainer of the Haiku port of ocvm?
L78[01:07:39] <Izaya> no, just occasional tester
L79[01:07:48] <S3> aha
L80[01:08:05] <S3> I made a PR for ocvm today
L81[01:08:57] <bad at​ vijya> i
L82[01:09:01] <bad at​ vijya> may have to use
L83[01:09:03] <bad at​ vijya> uh
L84[01:09:04] <bad at​ vijya> win2k
L85[01:09:08] <bad at​ vijya> to get my shit to work
L86[01:09:32] <S3> lol
L87[01:12:19] <bad at​ vijya> okay
L88[01:12:19] <bad at​ vijya> fine
L89[01:12:22] <bad at​ vijya> fucking hell
L90[01:12:24] <bad at​ vijya> this is obtuse
L91[01:13:41] <bad at​ vijya> so
L92[01:13:43] <bad at​ vijya> uh
L93[01:13:46] <bad at​ vijya> i hate all of this
L94[01:21:48] <bad at​ vijya> okay
L95[01:21:51] <bad at​ vijya> tried UUIDs
L96[01:21:55] <bad at​ vijya> it didn't fucking work
L97[01:21:58] <bad at​ vijya> kill me
L98[01:23:54] <CompanionCube> Izaya: btw never get an oculus: 'Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices (oculus.com)'
L99[01:24:50] <bad at​ vijya> i'm getting a not found error
L100[01:24:52] <bad at​ vijya> and
L101[01:24:58] <bad at​ vijya> i wanna fucking blow my brains out
L102[01:25:06] <bad at​ vijya> with an elephant gun
L103[01:31:26] <S3> You like whacking that enter key don't you
L104[01:33:07] <Amanda> Hey Intel, if you could fix your fucking iGPU drivers, that'd be greeeat
L105[01:33:22] <Amanda> I hope spiitfarer saved
L106[01:33:43] <Amanda> before my laptop shut itself down, I assume because the iGPU crashed again
L107[01:36:21] <bad at​ vijya> sorry
L108[01:36:25] <bad at​ vijya> just slowly losing my mind
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L110[02:12:42] <bad at​ vijya> lupi be mangling my keycodes smh
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L114[02:24:46] <ThePi​Guy24> !tonk
L115[02:24:56] <ThePi​Guy24> %tonk
L116[02:24:56] <MichiBot> Fudge! ThePi​Guy24! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of 4 hours, 35 minutes and 9 seconds (By 25 minutes and 56 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L117[02:24:57] <MichiBot> ThePiGuy24's new record is 5 hours, 1 minute and 6 seconds! ThePiGuy24 also gained 0.00215 (0.00043 x 5) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #5. Need 0.1646964 more points to pass Squi​dDev!
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L120[03:27:48] <Amanda> %choose space or tempt the goddesses
L121[03:27:49] <MichiBot> Ama​nda: I sense some "tempt the goddesses" in your future!
L122[03:28:11] <Ocawesome101> o/
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L128[06:21:44] <Izaya> https://files.botsin.space/media_attachments/files/104/720/029/002/830/389/original/d70341acda336af9.png
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L132[07:50:09] <CompanionCube> %tonkout
L133[07:50:09] <MichiBot> Sard! Compan​ionCube! You beat ThePi​Guy24's previous record of 5 hours, 1 minute and 6 seconds (By 24 minutes and 5 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L134[07:50:10] <MichiBot> Compan​ionCube has stolen the tonkout! Tonk has been reset! They gained 0.005 tonk points! plus 0.004 bonus points for consecutive hours! (Reduced to 50% because stealing) Current score: 1.11917944. Position #2 Need 0.0156764 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L136[08:39:39] <kingofsponges> anyone here?
L137[08:39:47] <Forec​aster> no
L138[08:40:08] <kingofsponges> do u recognize the guy called sponge
L139[08:40:11] <kingofsponges> its me
L140[08:40:38] <kingofsponges> Corded
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L142[08:40:46] <kingofsponges> f
L143[08:40:48] <Forec​aster> yes you're the one who said almost the exact thing last time, and that was it
L144[08:40:50] <Forec​aster> also
L145[08:40:52] <Forec​aster> %corded
L146[08:40:52] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Cor​ded is a relay between IRC and Discord. The user talking is between the <>
L147[08:40:57] <kingofsponges> i know
L148[08:41:05] <kingofsponges> this time i am using hexchat bruh
L149[08:41:29] <kingofsponges> no more crappy connections to irc servers
L150[08:41:37] <kingofsponges> i mean the crappy clients
L151[08:41:41] <kingofsponges> h
L152[08:43:08] <kingofsponges> goddamnit hexchat is so easy to use
L153[08:44:12] <kingofsponges> uhhhhhh
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L155[08:46:56] <kingofsponges> this chat kind of inactive
L156[08:47:21] <kingofsponges> and the dumb terminal font
L157[08:50:27] <Forec​aster> you said the same thing last time
L158[08:50:33] <Forec​aster> congratulations for noticing
L159[08:50:42] <Izaya> stimulating conversation
L160[08:53:00] <Forec​aster> %sip
L161[08:53:01] <MichiBot> You drink a stirring ferozium potion (New!). The potion contained a computer virus! Forecaster hears a maniacal laugh as their cursor flips upside down!
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L169[11:05:27] <B​ob> E
L170[11:06:31] <Forec​aster> A games
L171[11:06:43] <B​ob> Yes
L172[11:28:45] <Lizzy> %tonk
L173[11:28:45] <MichiBot> Bejabbers! Li​zzy! You beat Compan​ionCube's previous record of <0 (By 3 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L174[11:28:46] <MichiBot> Lizzy's new record is 3 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds! Lizzy also gained 0.00364 tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #3. Need 0.03971944 more points to pass Compan​ionCube!
L175[11:28:51] <Lizzy> oh yay
L176[11:37:36] <Forec​aster> dangit, I was waiting for 4 hours >:
L177[12:34:54] <Inari> %sip
L178[12:34:54] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly toxictop potion (New!). Inari gains knowledge about a random useless subject.
L179[12:35:01] <Inari> Yay
L180[12:45:21] <Forec​aster> Certain fish can breathe through their skin to hibernate when the water dries out
L181[12:54:55] <Forec​aster> yay I'm a marquis
L182[12:54:57] <Forec​aster> one more rank left
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L184[12:58:54] <S3> %tonk
L185[12:58:54] <MichiBot> I'm sorry S3, you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 3 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds this time. 1 hour, 30 minutes and 8 seconds were wasted! Missed by 2 hours, 8 minutes and 27 seconds!
L186[13:00:43] <S3> kingofsponges: hexchat is bloated
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L188[13:01:02] <S3> Because it uses more than 640K of RAM :D
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L193[13:27:57] <Forec​aster> I'm out of snacks...
L194[13:28:02] <Forec​aster> %choose buy more snacks
L195[13:28:02] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Oh, I've heard about that. You'll want to wait until tomorrow.
L196[13:28:08] <Forec​aster> what D:
L197[13:28:11] <Forec​aster> aww
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L199[13:37:05] <S3> AHAHAHAHA
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L204[15:26:42] <Forec​aster> %sip
L205[15:26:42] <MichiBot> You drink a mutable purple potion (New!). Forecaster turns into a robot girl for 51 seconds.
L206[15:27:26] <Forec​aster> Well that was weird
L207[15:28:09] <pifase> ok then?
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L210[16:04:13] <Ar​iri> %tonk
L211[16:04:13] <MichiBot> I'm sorry Ariri, you were not able to beat Lizzy's record of 3 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds this time. 3 hours, 5 minutes and 19 seconds were wasted! Missed by 33 minutes and 17 seconds!
L212[16:04:47] <Ar​iri> Ah bugger, I read it as 3:58, not 4:58
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L214[17:00:42] <Forec​aster> %fling undodgeable ball at @Ariri
L215[17:00:42] <MichiBot> Forec​aster is flinging at @Ar​iri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L216[17:05:16] <Michiyo> stop flinging nothing at folks @"Forec​aster"
L217[17:06:05] <Forec​aster> :|
L218[17:06:10] <Ar​iri> %defend against nothing?
L219[17:06:10] <MichiBot> Specify an action as the first parameter: block, guard, deflect, parry, counterspell, dodge
L220[17:06:24] <Ar​iri> %counterspell of something
L221[17:06:25] <MichiBot> Ariri successfully counterspelled the undodgeable ball flung at them by Forecaster with a 19 vs 10, avoiding all the damage.
L222[17:06:58] <Forec​aster> I should have flung an un-counterspellable ball >:
L223[17:07:01] <Ar​iri> Haha, your {string} is no match for me
L224[17:07:59] <Ar​iri> (Just messing with you btw, not trying to be mean about silly mistakes, incase that wasnt what it seemed)
L225[17:08:11] <Forec​aster> what mistake?
L226[17:09:05] <Michiyo> " Forec​aster is flinging at @Ar​iri!" I kinda expected it to show *what* was flung
L227[17:09:25] <Michiyo> though, I suppose if you look at the command it's there, but still :p
L228[17:09:26] <Forec​aster> ...I don't remember
L229[17:10:31] <Forec​aster> `Helper.sendMessage(target, nick + " is flinging at " + flingTarget + "! They have`
L230[17:10:43] <Forec​aster> nope, it doesn't have the item in there
L231[17:11:26] <Forec​aster> I thought you were referring to nothing happening after 5 minutes :P
L232[17:14:47] <Michiyo> ahh, lol
L233[17:17:12] <Forec​aster> I can put "something" in there so it doesn't look off though :P
L234[17:19:24] <Michiyo> yeah, that was going to be my suggestion
L235[17:19:25] <Ar​iri> Oh, I thought it was supposed to put something as well, and I also was talking about anything Ive said in the past
L236[17:19:44] <Ar​iri> %s/put something/say whats being flung
L237[17:19:44] <MichiBot> <Ariri> Oh, I thought it was supposed to say whats being flung as well, and I also was talking about anything Ive said in the past
L238[17:23:20] <Forec​aster> Something flinging this way comes
L239[17:26:45] <Forec​aster> Is definitely correct quote
L240[17:53:04] <Michiyo> :P
L241[17:55:28] <Forec​aster> about to unlock the cutter!
L242[17:55:35] <Forec​aster> I'ma get one too
L243[18:16:29] <Forec​aster> wow, an 8A shield generator costs almost as much as the clipper itself xD
L244[18:18:29] <Ar​iri> o_O
L245[18:18:59] <Forec​aster> cost of Imperial Clipper: 200M
L246[18:19:09] <Forec​aster> cost of 8A shield generator 158M
L247[18:35:39] <Forec​aster> Cutter I mean
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L250[18:38:00] <Inari> %sip
L251[18:38:00] <MichiBot> You drink a muddy crimson potion (New!). Someone just had some of Inari's favourite food and they didn't get any!
L252[18:38:07] <Inari> Rude
L253[18:38:08] <Kristo​pher38> wait till you see the price for the best power plant
L254[18:38:24] <Inari> No walking around ships
L255[18:38:25] <Inari> sad times
L256[18:38:27] <Kristo​pher38> it's easily 3-4x times the price of the cutter
L257[18:39:17] <Forec​aster> I don't need that
L258[18:40:56] <Inari> Y'all should watch Sora no Woto
L259[18:41:02] <Inari> "Japanese girls wearing German uniforms with an african owl exploring a Japanese music school in a Spanish town full of french people celebrating Chinese New Years in Switzerland, shooting german rifles and also piloting multi legged, talking, demon slaying, cloackable, AMAZING GRACE SINGING, 500mm coil gun firing "Son of The God of Fire" supertanks from the future."
L260[18:41:53] <Kristo​pher38> alright, I was wrong
L261[18:42:01] <Kristo​pher38> 8a power plant costs 162kk
L262[18:42:52] <Kristo​pher38> what was the most expensive module that I remembered though? 🤔
L263[18:47:06] <Ar​iri> Inari: Holy wow how many genres is that
L264[18:47:16] <Inari> Wouldn't say genres
L265[18:47:18] <Inari> More like themes
L266[18:47:19] <Inari> :p
L267[18:47:35] <Forec​aster> themeres
L268[18:47:53] <Inari> Isn't a Themere a type of ship
L269[18:48:10] <Forec​aster> duno
L270[18:49:12] <Inari> Guess not
L271[18:49:19] <Inari> But something that sounded like it, I'm srue
L272[18:52:35] <Forec​aster> 8A only costs 113M at this station, nice
L273[18:53:24] <Forec​aster> 8A thrusters cost more, and also bump deployed power usage beyond the stock power plants capacity
L274[18:59:34] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y6hpl75v
L275[19:00:54] <Kristo​pher38> is this a custom paint? or just the lighting?
L276[19:04:37] <Forec​aster> it's the Iridescent Gleam paint job
L277[19:04:50] <Forec​aster> I only have that and "Midnight Black" for the cutter
L278[19:06:51] <Forec​aster> well fleet, @Michiyo, @Lizzy-chan and Amanda, I hope you're ready to go do some mining again :P
L279[19:10:32] <Michiyo> I *can* mine, I don't what I'm doing though.
L280[19:11:14] <Forec​aster> I will show you :P
L281[19:15:54] <Forec​aster> alright, prepare to head out to the mining spot during the weekend
L282[19:42:31] <B​ob> does the utf8.char function accepts multiple args ?
L283[19:44:27] <B​ob> apparently yes, i can just unpack
L284[19:59:40] <CompanionCube> %tonk
L285[19:59:41] <MichiBot> Willikers! Compan​ionCube! You beat Li​zzy's previous record of 3 hours, 38 minutes and 36 seconds (By 16 minutes and 51 seconds)! I hope you're happy!
L286[19:59:42] <MichiBot> CompanionCube's new record is 3 hours, 55 minutes and 27 seconds! CompanionCube also gained 0.00112 (0.00028 x 4) tonk points for stealing the tonk. Position #2. Need 0.0145564 more points to pass Forec​aster!
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L289[20:14:24] <The Swe​rvy Doat> this may sound vague, but.. how would you make a good looking UI, and how would you make it interactable, example: http://tinyurl.com/yydwunxd
L290[20:14:55] <Forec​aster> by writing code, probably
L291[20:15:00] <The Swe​rvy Doat> thanks
L292[20:15:23] <The Swe​rvy Doat> i was asking how to draw things in oc but ok
L293[20:16:42] <Ocawes​ome101> with the gpu
L294[20:16:49] <Ocawes​ome101> possibly hardware buffers but that adds complexity
L295[20:17:06] <Ocawes​ome101> ~w component:gpu
L296[20:17:09] <Forec​aster> well if you ask a vague question, I don't know why you wouldn't expect a vague answer
L297[20:17:17] <Ocawes​ome101> ~w gpu
L298[20:17:28] <Ocawes​ome101> bah
L299[20:17:40] <Corded> * <Ocawes​ome101> pokes Michiyo
L300[20:17:41] <Forec​aster> ~oc gpu
L301[20:17:55] <Forec​aster> ocdoc's been kidnapped again
L302[20:22:01] <Michiyo> that is way too much trouble to go through right now
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L304[20:23:38] <Forec​aster> rescuing ocdoc was too much trouble so you just cloned him instead? :P
L305[20:24:09] <Ocawes​ome101> ~w gpu
L306[20:24:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L307[20:24:13] <Ocawes​ome101> @The Swervy Doat see above
L308[20:24:17] <Ocawes​ome101> thanks michiyo :)
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L311[20:40:27] <Inari> Ah
L312[20:40:28] <Inari> Trireme it was
L313[20:56:35] <Forec​aster> One decade later....
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L315[21:11:42] <Ar​iri> I totally weeb-dyslexia'd that nick
L316[21:12:07] <Ar​iri> Also, Izaya: Speaking of Oculus and Facebook shenanigans.. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-wins-preliminary-approval-to-settle-facial-recognition-lawsuit-2020-8
L317[21:23:30] <S3> Did someone ever make like a getopts for OC?
L318[21:24:41] <S3> if not I'll make one
L319[21:24:54] <Ocawes​ome101> getopts?
L320[21:24:56] <CompanionCube> woo, openzfs can now into zstd
L321[21:25:41] <S3> getopt, you know, the library that usually handles your options like -v -h --no-stdlib --foo-bar
L322[21:25:41] <Ocawes​ome101> S3: like, for getting command line options?
L323[21:25:52] <S3> yes
L324[21:26:05] <Ocawes​ome101> look into `shell.parse`
L325[21:26:08] <S3> https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Getopt.html
L326[21:26:57] <S3> Hmm. I think I'm going to roll my own, this looks OpenOS specific
L327[21:27:09] <Ocawes​ome101> it works on anything that implements it
L328[21:27:14] <Ocawes​ome101> what are you devving for?
L329[21:28:23] <Ocawes​ome101> `getopt` does look a bit more featured, I might look into implementing something like it for Monolith
L330[21:28:41] <S3> I've been working on two projects actually
L331[21:29:10] <S3> I have Tugboat, and Trotwood
L332[21:29:25] <Ocawes​ome101> oh right, you're the Trotwood guy
L333[21:29:27] <Ocawes​ome101> how's that going?
L334[21:29:32] <Ocawes​ome101> and what's Tugboat?
L335[21:29:35] <S3> Not too bad actually.
L336[21:29:48] <S3> Tugboat is a boot loader. It will be the boot loader of trotwood but it's a separate project
L337[21:30:09] <S3> tugboat comes with some extra utilities such as zflash, which is my mini project I'm working on right this second
L338[21:30:34] <Ocawes​ome101> ah i see
L339[21:31:22] <S3> zflash is an eeprom flashing utility that supports eeprom compression, hex files that look like this: https://paste.pc-logix.com/ufuhuwozaz.txt
L340[21:32:08] <S3> as well as some other features for eeprom things
L341[21:32:23] <S3> it generates these .hex files which will come with a built in quick flash function
L342[21:32:32] <S3> so if you run the file as lua code itl ask you if you want to flash the eeprom
L343[21:32:52] <S3> if you pass it options however, it invokes zflash for advanced flashing features.
L344[21:34:49] <Ocawes​ome101> i see
L345[21:34:54] <Ocawes​ome101> why the hexfile thing?
L346[21:35:06] <Ocawes​ome101> just to allow easier distribution of both custom data and bios?
L347[21:36:21] <S3> that, and it allows me to contain both the data and code portions in the same file. If I get my PXE boot thing working, I may build it to support reading these files
L348[21:36:28] <S3> the algorithm for decoding the ascii hex is extremely simple
L349[21:36:35] <S3> and it is similar to the way intel ihex works
L350[21:37:23] <S3> The other thing is that Tugboat will use the data portion extensively to hashmap its configuration fields for its modules
L351[21:37:40] <S3> and with a hex file, I can actually edit config variables either live on an eeprom data portion or on a hex file
L352[21:38:06] <Ocawes​ome101> neat
L353[21:38:11] <S3> I thought of using base64, but base64 doesn't align very well with base2.
L354[21:39:06] <S3> I kind of wish the data section was 512 bytes and not 256
L355[21:39:12] <S3> because thenit would be the size of one sector
L356[21:40:54] <Izaya> still want a BIOS that can parse kernel args easily
L357[21:40:57] * Inari hold Amanda's tail and runs a violin bow over it to see if it makes any sound
L358[21:41:19] <Amanda> %bite Inari
L359[21:41:20] <MichiBot> Ama​nda is trying to bite Ina​ri! They have 5 minutes if they want to attempt to %defend against it!
L360[21:41:20] <S3> Izaya: what do you mean?
L361[21:41:24] <Inari> D:
L362[21:41:26] <Inari> %dodge
L363[21:41:26] <MichiBot> Inari managed to partially dodge Amanda. With a 16 vs 12 Inari only takes half of the 3 damage.
L364[21:41:31] <Inari> Amanda: rude
L365[21:41:56] <S3> you want the bios to parse arguments to the kernel for the OS instead of the other way around?
L366[21:42:20] <Izaya> S3: you know how when you boot OpenBSD or 9front you get the option to type in args?
L367[21:42:45] <S3> Yes
L368[21:42:54] <Izaya> basically that
L369[21:43:23] <S3> Tugboat has intentions to do that
L370[21:43:37] <S3> it's a 2 stage boot loader
L371[21:43:52] <S3> and the first stage is nothing but modules clamped together in a single file
L372[21:44:04] <S3> 2nd stage is modules on the filesystem
L373[21:44:16] <S3> it will be nothing but a tiny module api in itself
L374[21:44:32] <S3> module developers can query, load, and talk to modules
L375[21:44:46] <Izaya> sounds like clutter tbh
L376[21:45:36] <S3> Well essentiall all you need for tugboat to work is a module that knows how to interface the filesystem, and a module that loads it
L377[21:45:50] <S3> that way you can boot on an unmanaged disk system
L378[21:46:56] <Amanda> meowning Izaya
L379[21:47:07] <S3> Izaya: I'm not really sure how else to do it
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L381[21:48:14] <S3> The things you need that are too big to fit on eeprom (i.e. a forth interpreter) you would put in stage 2.
L382[21:48:27] <S3> but stage2 isn't required
L383[21:48:28] <Corded> * <Ar​iri> tried to look at Inari's avatar for umpteenth time because I keep seeing Senko and confusing myself, actually sees Bender and jumps back in surprise
L384[21:48:47] <Inari> Wat
L385[21:49:07] <Inari> Oh S3's
L386[21:49:18] <Ar​iri> Yeah
L387[21:49:26] <S3> Inari: ?
L388[21:49:32] <Ar​iri> Who is she though
L389[21:49:41] <Ar​iri> S3: Corded avatar
L390[21:49:51] <Inari 「オ​兄デレ」「狐っ娘」> http://tinyurl.com/y6jg6b5h
L391[21:50:10] <S3> neat
L392[21:50:23] <Ar​iri> Fang qt <3
L393[21:51:31] <S3> Izaya: I think PXE booting will be a huge part of Trotwood clustering
L394[21:51:49] <S3> it will allow you to cluster a bunch of OC computers together with only one instance of trotwood on one computer.
L395[21:52:31] <S3> And Trotwood can run off of tmpfs so it can just initrd to tmpfs a tiny copy if itself leaving you the entire disk for whatever
L396[21:55:04] <S3> I think I'm going to call my pxe loader robopixie
L397[21:55:15] <S3> Ariri good name?
L398[21:55:46] <Ar​iri> robopixie? I approve
L399[21:55:53] <S3> I thought so
L400[21:56:37] <Ar​iri> :3
L401[22:01:08] <S3> Izaya: What about a syslinux comboot style approach?
L402[22:01:17] <S3> where you load a module as the kernel itself
L403[22:01:21] <S3> and pass it options
L404[22:01:53] <Mic​hiyo> lol.. yeah due to how Discord's webhooks work the avatar for any Corded user is the last avatar it used when you click the avatar
L405[22:02:40] <Ar​iri> I realized that a while ago, but somehow I still manage to forget it sometimes...
L406[22:03:22] <Forec​aster> remembering things is overrated
L407[22:03:44] <Forec​aster> %sip
L408[22:03:44] <MichiBot> You drink a slimy copper potion (New!). Forecaster now has a mullet until they see a bird.
L409[22:03:51] <Forec​aster> ohno
L410[22:03:56] <Corded> * <Forec​aster> goes to find a bird
L411[22:04:22] <Ar​iri> ~~I wish the webhook would overwrite Forecaster's avatar~~
L412[22:04:43] <Forec​aster> but it's just a nice picture of sailor moon
L413[22:04:48] <Forec​aster> I don't know what you're seeing
L414[22:04:51] <Michiyo> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Inari If you want to grab anyone's avatar that has set one
L415[22:05:02] <Ar​iri> Cursed, thats what
L416[22:05:27] <Ar​iri> Thanks for the sauce, Michiyo
L417[22:05:53] <Forec​aster> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=Forecaster
L418[22:06:17] <Forec​aster> oh yeah
L419[22:06:32] <S3> LOL I just realized my avatar is bender
L420[22:06:39] <Michiyo> your Discord avatar is horrifying @"Forec​aster"... :P
L421[22:06:49] <Forec​aster> whaaaaaa
L422[22:06:52] <Forec​aster> I can't believe it
L423[22:07:15] <Mic​hiyo> .avatar @Forecaster
L424[22:07:15] <Nat​sumi> @Michiyo
L425[22:07:20] <Mic​hiyo> yep...
L426[22:07:23] <Ar​iri> %bap Forecaster with some attack from Sailor Moon that totally makes it look like Ive watched it
L427[22:07:23] <MichiBot> Ariri baps Forecaster with some attack from Sailor Moon that totally makes it look like Ive watched it!
L428[22:07:41] <CompanionCube> i'm not in discord but i do have a sweet avatar
L429[22:07:57] <Forec​aster> https://www.deviantart.com/victormoda/art/Sailor-Moon-Challenge-842986591
L430[22:07:59] <Ar​iri> The more I look at it, the worse it gets
L431[22:08:04] <Forec​aster> this is the source
L432[22:08:05] <Ar​iri> Slav Moon was a better choice
L433[22:08:06] <Mic​hiyo> https://pc-logix.com/discord/yuri/generateavatar.php?nick=CompanionCube I agree CC
L434[22:08:14] <Ar​iri> Forecaster: Not the sauce I wanted
L435[22:08:16] <Ar​iri> D:
L436[22:08:43] <CompanionCube> https://i.imgur.com/90C5VVd.png iirc it's this scaled-down and centered
L437[22:08:49] <Ar​iri> CC should duplicate the C and make it the avatar
L438[22:08:56] <Michiyo> not on Discord it's not :P
L439[22:09:09] <CompanionCube> but i'm not on discord,
L440[22:09:29] <Michiyo> No, but the bridge can show avatars on discord if you set it
L441[22:09:29] <Ar​iri> The webhook has avatars
L442[22:10:02] <Forec​aster> %avatar
L443[22:10:03] <MichiBot> Forec​aster: Use `!setmyavatar <url>`
L444[22:10:14] <Michiyo> I cheated and uploaded one for you CC :P
L445[22:10:23] <CompanionCube> ah
L446[22:11:30] <Forec​aster> http://tinyurl.com/y6cqhzgh
L447[22:11:48] <Ar​iri> it looks kind of... sad
L448[22:12:08] <CompanionCube> there's a reason why i centered it :p
L449[22:12:08] <Forec​aster> also not quite centered :P
L450[22:12:15] <Mic​hiyo> I really need a better method of uploading.. lol
L451[22:12:26] <Mic​hiyo> Yes, well I wasn't going to go through the hassle :P
L452[22:12:42] <CompanionCube> maybe i have a centered copy lying around...
L453[22:15:30] <Forec​aster> :I
L454[22:16:34] <Forec​aster> am stupid fox
L455[22:16:49] <Ar​iri> %pet Forecaster
L456[22:16:50] <MichiBot> Ariri is brushing Forecaster with ☼hardwood staff☼. Forecaster regains 1d4 => 4 hit points!
L457[22:18:02] <Ariri> %ping
L458[22:18:04] <Ar​iri> You could make it one of these... https://twitter.com/Sasouraaaa/status/1263213721754783745?s=20 https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/goab39/sailor_moon_slav_squat/
L459[22:18:05] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ar​iri 0.57s
L460[22:18:30] <Ar​iri> That took awfully long to send from my end
L461[22:18:53] <Forec​aster> I don't know what you mean, that's basically what I have...
L462[22:19:22] <Ar​iri> -_-
L463[22:19:34] <Forec​aster> :P
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L467[22:40:26] <Forec​aster> %sip
L468[22:40:27] <MichiBot> You drink a smelly lime potion (New!). Forecaster is suddenly more aware of cute things nearby until they have a nap.
L469[22:40:46] <Forec​aster> Well I'm already in bed so
L470[22:41:05] <Forec​aster> I should try to draw sailor moon sometime
L471[22:42:47] <Ar​iri> points Forecaster in the direction of a cute kemonomimi art, totally not to draw inspo from
L472[22:48:41] <Forec​aster> Kemomomomowhatnow
L473[22:49:21] <Ocawes​ome101> ke-mo-no-mi-mi
L474[22:49:25] <Ocawes​ome101> kemono mimi
L475[22:49:30] <Ocawes​ome101> no idea
L476[22:49:34] <Ar​iri> animal girls
L477[22:49:47] <Ar​iri> http://tinyurl.com/y65gevau
L478[22:50:11] <Ar​iri> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism
L479[22:50:37] <Ar​iri> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism#Animals [Edited]
L480[22:50:58] <Izaya> I still don't get the appeal
L481[22:52:54] <Ar​iri> Its just... moe. I cant explain it really
L482[22:53:09] <Ar​iri> Not always, but usually
L483[22:55:43] <Forec​aster> I don't know what this has to do with sailor moon :P
L484[22:56:41] <Forec​aster> (Assuming that's what you meant with inspiration)
L485[22:58:34] <Ar​iri> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/obotasekad
L486[23:03:41] <Forec​aster> I wasn't responding to those pictures specifically
L487[23:04:15] <Forec​aster> I meant just drawing sailor moon
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L490[23:35:25] <S3> Ooh why didn't I think of that
L491[23:35:32] <S3> I can make trotwood add a _G.bios {}
L492[23:35:47] <S3> bios calls for using within your system
L493[23:35:59] <S3> I may even be able to use it to trick OpenOS into working with unmanaged filesystems
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