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<bball.psd> wtf thats the third
timeL5[01:34:09] <Forecaster> I've deleted the
invites that go to #general, only one remains that go to
#railcraft-announcements
<Forecaster> I've deleted the
invites that go to #general, only one remains that go to
#railcraft-announcementsL6[01:34:59] <Forecaster> Any links need to be
updated to use `VyaUt2r` instead
<Forecaster> Any links need to be
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L17[02:27:57] <Forecaster> @CovertJaguar note to
update any links on the website and such
<Forecaster> @CovertJaguar note to
update any links on the website and suchL18[02:28:33] <liach>
yeah, currently cj and i are updating
<liach>
yeah, currently cj and i are updatingL19[02:36:36] ⇨
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L24[03:11:29] <liach>
Guys, we need some ideas for advancements in railcraft. feel free
to submit in #advancement-ideas
<liach>
Guys, we need some ideas for advancements in railcraft. feel free
to submit in #advancement-ideasL25[09:04:25] ⇨
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L34[14:32:40] <Kane
Hart> can you detect a crash with advancements ?
<Kane
Hart> can you detect a crash with advancements ?L35[14:42:39] <Chocohead> You can try ?
<Chocohead> You can try ?L36[14:47:52] <Kane
Hart> ?
<Kane
Hart> ?L37[15:37:51] ⇦
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L38[16:12:04] <madman> Question are linked mod
advancements ok???
<madman> Question are linked mod
advancements ok???L39[16:12:58] <madman> Say if railcraft is installed
and maybe opencomputers a advancement that only is there if both
mods are pleasant??
<madman> Say if railcraft is installed
and maybe opencomputers a advancement that only is there if both
mods are pleasant??L40[16:13:21] <madman> Dang autocorrect
preasant
<madman> Dang autocorrect
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L42[16:22:15] <Triaxx2> Present?
<Triaxx2> Present?L43[16:31:31] ⇦
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L44[16:32:51] <madman> Yea sorry spelling not the
best
<madman> Yea sorry spelling not the
bestL45[16:35:59] <madman> Say your running a Pack that
has open computers on it as well as railcraft is there allowed to
be a acivement that will show up only when both are in the same
pack
<madman> Say your running a Pack that
has open computers on it as well as railcraft is there allowed to
be a acivement that will show up only when both are in the same
packL46[16:37:59] <madman> Does that make sense??
<madman> Does that make sense??L47[16:39:54] <Triaxx2> Yes, it does.
<Triaxx2> Yes, it does.L48[16:40:22] <Triaxx2> Whether it can be done?
Totally outside my realm of knowledge.
<Triaxx2> Whether it can be done?
Totally outside my realm of knowledge.L49[16:41:13] <madman> That's fine I'll
throw it into the channel then lol
<madman> That's fine I'll
throw it into the channel then lolL50[17:15:17] <fLAK>
@CovertJaguar were you on the BC dev team when they decided to go
back to using MJ?
<fLAK>
@CovertJaguar were you on the BC dev team when they decided to go
back to using MJ?L51[17:15:40] <CovertJaguar> no, I left because
SpaceToad scrapped it
<CovertJaguar> no, I left because
SpaceToad scrapped itL52[17:16:09] <fLAK>
scrapped the MJ system?
<fLAK>
scrapped the MJ system?L53[17:16:45] <fLAK>
I thought space stopped working on BC way back in 2012
<fLAK>
I thought space stopped working on BC way back in 2012L54[17:17:03] <CovertJaguar> well... technically we
forced his hand to move to flux, but only because he had gutted MJ
without consulting anyone on the team
<CovertJaguar> well... technically we
forced his hand to move to flux, but only because he had gutted MJ
without consulting anyone on the teamL55[17:17:18] <CovertJaguar> he came back
briefly
<CovertJaguar> he came back
brieflyL56[17:17:20] <fLAK>
what did he do lol
<fLAK>
what did he do lolL57[17:17:56] <CovertJaguar> long enough to push out
everyone working on it at the time and bring in new people and undo
most of the work we'd done on bringing the code base up to
java standards
<CovertJaguar> long enough to push out
everyone working on it at the time and bring in new people and undo
most of the work we'd done on bringing the code base up to
java standardsL58[17:18:43] <fLAK>
undo as in you had no way of reversing the 'changes' he
made?
<fLAK>
undo as in you had no way of reversing the 'changes' he
made?L59[17:19:25] <CovertJaguar> well I technically had,
and still do have, control of the repo, but a commit war would have
just been petty
<CovertJaguar> well I technically had,
and still do have, control of the repo, but a commit war would have
just been pettyL60[17:19:59] <Warlord
Wossman> F
<Warlord
Wossman> FL61[17:20:01] <Triaxx2> I'm rather surprised it
didn't fork.
<Triaxx2> I'm rather surprised it
didn't fork.L62[17:20:21] <CovertJaguar> and it was in the
middle of a MC update, which would have meant a lot of work would
have had to have been duplicated if we were to roll back his
changes
<CovertJaguar> and it was in the
middle of a MC update, which would have meant a lot of work would
have had to have been duplicated if we were to roll back his
changesL63[17:21:00] <fLAK>
so you couldn't have just made another one and copied shit
over? no offense to him but he really had no legal ownership of the
mod so you could have just took your ball and went away
<fLAK>
so you couldn't have just made another one and copied shit
over? no offense to him but he really had no legal ownership of the
mod so you could have just took your ball and went awayL64[17:21:21] <CovertJaguar> I was maintaining three
mods at the time, I didn't really have the will or time at
that point to jump into that kind of drama
<CovertJaguar> I was maintaining three
mods at the time, I didn't really have the will or time at
that point to jump into that kind of dramaL65[17:21:31] <fLAK>
fair enough
<fLAK>
fair enoughL66[17:21:35] <CovertJaguar> if he wanted to ruin
it, that was up to him
<CovertJaguar> if he wanted to ruin
it, that was up to himL67[17:22:17] <Warlord
Wossman> don't get me wrong it's a cool mod but it
this stage it doesn't do anything unique I feel like
<Warlord
Wossman> don't get me wrong it's a cool mod but it
this stage it doesn't do anything unique I feel likeL68[17:22:43] <CovertJaguar> about three quarters of
the code by that time was mine. written largely from scratch to
replace his buggy C style spaghetti that SpaceToad favored
<CovertJaguar> about three quarters of
the code by that time was mine. written largely from scratch to
replace his buggy C style spaghetti that SpaceToad favoredL69[17:23:13] <CovertJaguar> big chunks of it came
from Railcraft too
<CovertJaguar> big chunks of it came
from Railcraft tooL70[17:23:49] <CovertJaguar> but meh, I tried to
work with him, but all I got was the cold shoulder, so I just gave
up
<CovertJaguar> but meh, I tried to
work with him, but all I got was the cold shoulder, so I just gave
upL71[17:24:02] <Triaxx2> The only thing I use it for
is the quarry and even that seems... less good than it used to
be.
<Triaxx2> The only thing I use it for
is the quarry and even that seems... less good than it used to
be.L72[17:24:09] <fLAK>
it sucks because I found that mod to be the most vanilla and
straight forward for the role it served, I tend to dislike other
transport modes because they had weird logic or a ton of extra crap
that looks ugly/retarded
<fLAK>
it sucks because I found that mod to be the most vanilla and
straight forward for the role it served, I tend to dislike other
transport modes because they had weird logic or a ton of extra crap
that looks ugly/retardedL73[17:24:28] <fLAK>
though the lack of power storage always annoyed me
<fLAK>
though the lack of power storage always annoyed meL74[17:24:48] <Warlord
Wossman> I guess most vanilla for a tech mod maybe
<Warlord
Wossman> I guess most vanilla for a tech mod maybeL75[17:25:05] <CovertJaguar> the lack of storage was
supposed to annoy you ?
<CovertJaguar> the lack of storage was
supposed to annoy you ?L76[17:25:27] <CovertJaguar> it was the main
limitation of the system that drove most of the other
mechanics
<CovertJaguar> it was the main
limitation of the system that drove most of the other
mechanicsL77[17:25:28] <fLAK>
which is why I favoured TE's redstone flux before I moved on
to playing other games,
<fLAK>
which is why I favoured TE's redstone flux before I moved on
to playing other games,L78[17:25:41] <Warlord
Wossman> oof
<Warlord
Wossman> oofL79[17:25:53] <Warlord
Wossman> back when TE got big I actually stopped playing
<Warlord
Wossman> back when TE got big I actually stopped playingL80[17:26:08] <Warlord
Wossman> have always been a fanboy of the more complicated
systems
<Warlord
Wossman> have always been a fanboy of the more complicated
systemsL81[17:27:18] <fLAK>
the way you joined piped in TE made a lot more sense at the time in
that you had to make the connections yourself which would prevent
unnecessary and otherwise unavoidable loops/connections
<fLAK>
the way you joined piped in TE made a lot more sense at the time in
that you had to make the connections yourself which would prevent
unnecessary and otherwise unavoidable loops/connectionsL82[17:28:43] <fLAK>
but at the same time I hated TE's machines because they were
literally cheap (and slightly more powerful) versions of IC2s
machines
<fLAK>
but at the same time I hated TE's machines because they were
literally cheap (and slightly more powerful) versions of IC2s
machinesL83[17:29:41] <fLAK>
despite the really useful pipe interactions you could configure in
the gui
<fLAK>
despite the really useful pipe interactions you could configure in
the guiL84[17:30:30] <CovertJaguar> TE main theme was
"steal everyone else's ideas, make our versions slightly
more OP, steal all their audience, play the saint and
profit!!!!"
<CovertJaguar> TE main theme was
"steal everyone else's ideas, make our versions slightly
more OP, steal all their audience, play the saint and
profit!!!!"L85[17:30:42] <Warlord
Wossman> actually the coolest pipe system for standard tasks is
the one from gt5u I feel like
<Warlord
Wossman> actually the coolest pipe system for standard tasks is
the one from gt5u I feel likeL86[17:30:56] <Warlord
Wossman> well yeah it was a watered down tech mod, but it
worked
<Warlord
Wossman> well yeah it was a watered down tech mod, but it
workedL87[17:31:27] <fLAK>
I don't even want to start on the GT versions, I liked GT when
I first played it but I don't remember which GT is was
<fLAK>
I don't even want to start on the GT versions, I liked GT when
I first played it but I don't remember which GT is wasL88[17:31:43] <Warlord
Wossman> honestly I get that some people are tired of the
oldschool tech mods but I always felt that modded just became more
and more making things easy mode
<Warlord
Wossman> honestly I get that some people are tired of the
oldschool tech mods but I always felt that modded just became more
and more making things easy modeL89[17:32:09] <fLAK>
and that's why I liked GT
<fLAK>
and that's why I liked GTL90[17:32:17] <Warlord
Wossman> so I have been on the team for GTNH for roughly 3 years
and I must say that GT is probably my fav tech mod
<Warlord
Wossman> so I have been on the team for GTNH for roughly 3 years
and I must say that GT is probably my fav tech modL91[17:32:31] <fLAK>
despite their textures looking like ass
<fLAK>
despite their textures looking like assL92[17:32:33] <Warlord
Wossman> but in that pack there were so many people and opinions
that it became a bit messy
<Warlord
Wossman> but in that pack there were so many people and opinions
that it became a bit messyL93[17:32:48] <CovertJaguar> when I created the new
MJ api that everyone hated, I took it to the TE _first_ and asked
them if they were ok with it, their response "looks great!
can't wait!"... immediately after I released it they came
out publicly complaining, "this API sucks! it forces us to do
stupid things we don't want to do! We'll make our
own!"
<CovertJaguar> when I created the new
MJ api that everyone hated, I took it to the TE _first_ and asked
them if they were ok with it, their response "looks great!
can't wait!"... immediately after I released it they came
out publicly complaining, "this API sucks! it forces us to do
stupid things we don't want to do! We'll make our
own!"L94[17:32:58] <vos>
why cant TE be a BC addon once again lol
<vos>
why cant TE be a BC addon once again lolL95[17:33:18] <Warlord
Wossman> lol
<Warlord
Wossman> lolL96[17:33:20] <Chocohead> TE is making its own
world
<Chocohead> TE is making its own
worldL97[17:33:31] <Chocohead> Without the need for you
to download non CoFH mods
<Chocohead> Without the need for you
to download non CoFH modsL98[17:33:48] <Chocohead> And nothing will stand in
its way
<Chocohead> And nothing will stand in
its wayL99[17:33:51] <vos>
I'm surprised you cant even change its power in the
configs
<vos>
I'm surprised you cant even change its power in the
configsL100[17:33:58] <vos>
at least some mods allow that
<vos>
at least some mods allow thatL101[17:34:11] <vos>
yh theres so many libs that it requires
<vos>
yh theres so many libs that it requiresL102[17:34:11] <fLAK>
I feel like TE and BC should have been together from the get-go,
would have been an interesting competition between that and the
original IC back in 2011
<fLAK>
I feel like TE and BC should have been together from the get-go,
would have been an interesting competition between that and the
original IC back in 2011L103[17:34:29] <CovertJaguar> it started as a BC
addon
<CovertJaguar> it started as a BC
addonL104[17:34:32] <Warlord
Wossman> I mean it's whatever, there is still cool mods
around to do stuff so I don't mind it all that much
<Warlord
Wossman> I mean it's whatever, there is still cool mods
around to do stuff so I don't mind it all that muchL105[17:34:33] <vos>
how many cursepoints to they get compared to you :P
<vos>
how many cursepoints to they get compared to you :PL106[17:34:38] <CovertJaguar> it was hosted on the BC
site
<CovertJaguar> it was hosted on the BC
siteL107[17:35:08] <vos>
ah the good old day of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experience
<vos>
ah the good old day of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experienceL108[17:35:15] <vos>
ah the good old days of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experience [Edited]
<vos>
ah the good old days of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experience [Edited]L109[17:35:17] <vos>
ah the good old days of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experience. [Edited]
<vos>
ah the good old days of BC, RC and TE that I never got to
experience. [Edited]L110[17:35:20] <Warlord
Wossman> nah
<Warlord
Wossman> nahL111[17:35:25] <CovertJaguar> I thought it was an
awesome addon.... then they started taking over
<CovertJaguar> I thought it was an
awesome addon.... then they started taking overL112[17:35:27] <vos>
and Forestry
<vos>
and ForestryL113[17:35:33] <Warlord
Wossman> replace TE with industrial craft
<Warlord
Wossman> replace TE with industrial craftL114[17:35:59] <vos>
IC2 feels so old to me for some reason
<vos>
IC2 feels so old to me for some reasonL115[17:36:01] <vos>
not sure why
<vos>
not sure whyL116[17:36:09] <Warlord
Wossman> the oldschool packs were really cool
<Warlord
Wossman> the oldschool packs were really coolL117[17:36:13] <vos>
Maybe the textures or I just never got far into it
<vos>
Maybe the textures or I just never got far into itL118[17:36:15] <fLAK>
honestly all I want right now in my modded world are the ducts and
power storage, if only there was a standalone mod for it
<fLAK>
honestly all I want right now in my modded world are the ducts and
power storage, if only there was a standalone mod for itL119[17:36:26] <Warlord
Wossman> but then again now we have so much more options
<Warlord
Wossman> but then again now we have so much more optionsL120[17:37:15] <fLAK>
IC2 feels like it began on a good note after the mess that was IC,
but as the months passed it felt like they were going nowhere
<fLAK>
IC2 feels like it began on a good note after the mess that was IC,
but as the months passed it felt like they were going nowhereL121[17:37:15] <vos>
think RC 1.12 will come out with a stable release before BC?
<vos>
think RC 1.12 will come out with a stable release before BC?L122[17:37:15] <Warlord
Wossman> I only use FE where I have to in the pack I am
making
<Warlord
Wossman> I only use FE where I have to in the pack I am
makingL123[17:37:18] <vos>
kinda feels like it
<vos>
kinda feels like itL124[17:37:45] <Chocohead> Alblaka was the one
driving the vision, the old todo list is crazy from back then
<Chocohead> Alblaka was the one
driving the vision, the old todo list is crazy from back thenL125[17:37:51] <vos>
hey Covert once RC hits stable are you going to help BC?
<vos>
hey Covert once RC hits stable are you going to help BC?L126[17:38:01] <CovertJaguar> probably not no
<CovertJaguar> probably not noL127[17:38:17] <Warlord
Wossman> I would rather see more things in RC
<Warlord
Wossman> I would rather see more things in RCL128[17:38:18] <CovertJaguar> my Railcraft todo list
isn't getting any shorter either ?
<CovertJaguar> my Railcraft todo list
isn't getting any shorter either ?L129[17:38:21] <vos>
lol
<vos>
lolL130[17:38:49] <vos>
do we know what your todo list is?
<vos>
do we know what your todo list is?L131[17:39:00] <CovertJaguar> I'm removed most
of Railcraft's dependence on Buildcraft, I'm not longer
dependent on it like I once was
<CovertJaguar> I'm removed most
of Railcraft's dependence on Buildcraft, I'm not longer
dependent on it like I once wasL132[17:39:24] <Warlord
Wossman> yeah, I am using RC w/o BC for example
<Warlord
Wossman> yeah, I am using RC w/o BC for exampleL133[17:39:29] <CovertJaguar> at the time I took
over, it was because there was no other option out their and most
of my stuff was pointless without MJ and pipes
<CovertJaguar> at the time I took
over, it was because there was no other option out their and most
of my stuff was pointless without MJ and pipesL134[17:40:12] <CovertJaguar> the fluid, inventory,
and power APIs I was using all came from Buildcraft
<CovertJaguar> the fluid, inventory,
and power APIs I was using all came from BuildcraftL135[17:40:19] <CovertJaguar> but most of that is
part of Forge now
<CovertJaguar> but most of that is
part of Forge nowL136[17:40:23] <madman> yea and now there is so many
other mods that would work
<madman> yea and now there is so many
other mods that would workL137[17:40:24] <Warlord
Wossman> technically vanilla has all you need for item transport
but modded people never liked vanilla mechanics much ?
<Warlord
Wossman> technically vanilla has all you need for item transport
but modded people never liked vanilla mechanics much ?L138[17:41:07] <Trinsdar> Is your cart tank texture
based off buildcraft or is it the other way around?
<Trinsdar> Is your cart tank texture
based off buildcraft or is it the other way around?L139[17:41:19] <CovertJaguar> it was modeled after BC
tanks
<CovertJaguar> it was modeled after BC
tanksL140[17:41:49] <Triaxx2> Didn't it change to use
the Iron tanks model instead though? I know it used to be
specifically a BC tank plus a cart at one point in the ancient
past.
<Triaxx2> Didn't it change to use
the Iron tanks model instead though? I know it used to be
specifically a BC tank plus a cart at one point in the ancient
past.L141[17:42:18] <CovertJaguar> yeah, the recipe uses
Iron tanks now, that was part of my effort to distance railcraft
from buildcraft
<CovertJaguar> yeah, the recipe uses
Iron tanks now, that was part of my effort to distance railcraft
from buildcraftL142[17:42:23] <vos>
is the cart tank only available when BC is loaded in game?
<vos>
is the cart tank only available when BC is loaded in game?L143[17:42:29] <Triaxx2> Nope.
<Triaxx2> Nope.L144[17:42:32] <vos>
ah
<vos>
ahL145[17:42:41] <Triaxx2> No need for BC at all.
<Triaxx2> No need for BC at all.L146[17:42:46] <CovertJaguar> I don't think it
ever was
<CovertJaguar> I don't think it
ever wasL147[17:43:07] <Triaxx2> I mean... maybe way back
when, but not now.
<Triaxx2> I mean... maybe way back
when, but not now.L148[17:43:23] <Warlord
Wossman> I mean that would suck
<Warlord
Wossman> I mean that would suckL149[17:43:34] <CovertJaguar> it did depend on the
fluid api back in the day, but that worked without BC
installed
<CovertJaguar> it did depend on the
fluid api back in the day, but that worked without BC
installedL150[17:44:17] <vos> I
just wish chemdork could come back
<vos> I
just wish chemdork could come backL151[17:44:20] <Warlord
Wossman> I think 1.12 is going to be where modding happens in
the near future, would be cool to see what happens with RC once
it's stable
<Warlord
Wossman> I think 1.12 is going to be where modding happens in
the near future, would be cool to see what happens with RC once
it's stableL152[17:44:24] <vos>
last upload was 4 months ago
<vos>
last upload was 4 months agoL153[17:44:54] <CovertJaguar> immediate plans beyond
stability are chemlab and the tycoon system (1.13)
<CovertJaguar> immediate plans beyond
stability are chemlab and the tycoon system (1.13)L154[17:45:22] <Warlord
Wossman> oof 1.13
<Warlord
Wossman> oof 1.13L155[17:45:30] <CovertJaguar> the chemlab opens up
diesel and a lot of other possibilities
<CovertJaguar> the chemlab opens up
diesel and a lot of other possibilitiesL156[17:45:49] <fLAK>
I see this trend where mod makers seem to be distancing themselves
from each other and no one really seems to want their mods to
interplay, I think it has something to do with the fuckload of work
it takes to actually port mods to new versions of MC which caused
some devs to get tired of waiting on others because their mod
depends on shit the other has etc.
<fLAK>
I see this trend where mod makers seem to be distancing themselves
from each other and no one really seems to want their mods to
interplay, I think it has something to do with the fuckload of work
it takes to actually port mods to new versions of MC which caused
some devs to get tired of waiting on others because their mod
depends on shit the other has etc.L157[17:45:52]
⇨ Joins: Michiyo
(Michiyo!~Michiyo@2607:5300:60:9e85::2bad:babe)
L158[17:45:58] <CovertJaguar> well the tycoon system
is largely world gen stuff and that's changing bigtime in 1.13
so no point in starting until then
<CovertJaguar> well the tycoon system
is largely world gen stuff and that's changing bigtime in 1.13
so no point in starting until thenL159[17:45:58] <Triaxx2> Maybe now that we have RC,
Skysom can stop messing around with transport and get his new
version of Engineer's Toolbox going instead. (Another 1.7 mod
that worked beautifully with Railcraft.
<Triaxx2> Maybe now that we have RC,
Skysom can stop messing around with transport and get his new
version of Engineer's Toolbox going instead. (Another 1.7 mod
that worked beautifully with Railcraft.L160[17:46:13] <vos>
TC died so add more Trains :P
<vos>
TC died so add more Trains :PL161[17:46:23] <Triaxx2> TC?
<Triaxx2> TC?L162[17:46:30] <vos>
traincraft
<vos>
traincraftL163[17:46:33] <fLAK>
^
<fLAK>
^L164[17:46:45] <vos>
as I said that I was updated a day ago
<vos>
as I said that I was updated a day agoL165[17:46:56] <vos>
but they're staying on 1.7
<vos>
but they're staying on 1.7L166[17:47:02] <CovertJaguar> the plan for the tycoon
system is to incorperate the various carts from Railcraft Addons
into the main mod
<CovertJaguar> the plan for the tycoon
system is to incorperate the various carts from Railcraft Addons
into the main modL167[17:47:19] <vos>
wait no they are updating but the new models don't fit into
the vanilla game feeling
<vos>
wait no they are updating but the new models don't fit into
the vanilla game feelingL168[17:47:41] <Warlord
Wossman> yeah idk, chemlab sounds cool but GT chemistry is
already there and pretty nice, wonder if it would be compatible but
it's probably too far of to even tell what's going on at
that point
<Warlord
Wossman> yeah idk, chemlab sounds cool but GT chemistry is
already there and pretty nice, wonder if it would be compatible but
it's probably too far of to even tell what's going on at
that pointL169[17:48:10] <CovertJaguar> the plan for the tycoon
system is to incorperate the various carts from Railcraft Cosmetic
Additions into the main mod [Edited]
<CovertJaguar> the plan for the tycoon
system is to incorperate the various carts from Railcraft Cosmetic
Additions into the main mod [Edited]L170[17:48:13] <Triaxx2> Hmm... wonder if we'll
get a fluid heated locomotive.
<Triaxx2> Hmm... wonder if we'll
get a fluid heated locomotive.L171[17:48:19] <Triaxx2> With an even bigger
bang.
<Triaxx2> With an even bigger
bang.L172[17:48:22] <vos>
how is it affecting the world gen?
<vos>
how is it affecting the world gen?L173[17:48:50] <fLAK>
speaking of all this, my forestry electric engine does not seem to
want to connect to the powered rolling machine
<fLAK>
speaking of all this, my forestry electric engine does not seem to
want to connect to the powered rolling machineL174[17:49:17] <CovertJaguar> the tycoon system
consists of routing goods from one location to another, a la
Transport Tycoon Deluxe style
<CovertJaguar> the tycoon system
consists of routing goods from one location to another, a la
Transport Tycoon Deluxe styleL175[17:49:18] <Warlord
Wossman> I think it would be nice to make ore veins more
factorio like so you have a reason to not just build one base but
have train lines to different mining spots
<Warlord
Wossman> I think it would be nice to make ore veins more
factorio like so you have a reason to not just build one base but
have train lines to different mining spotsL176[17:49:33] <Warlord
Wossman> but they need to return a shit ton of ore for it to be
worth
<Warlord
Wossman> but they need to return a shit ton of ore for it to be
worthL177[17:49:33] <vos>
cant we already do that
<vos>
cant we already do thatL178[17:49:41] <CovertJaguar> @Warlord Wossman you
mean like Railcraft's mines? xD
<CovertJaguar> @Warlord Wossman you
mean like Railcraft's mines? xDL179[17:49:52] <Triaxx2> Wha?
<Triaxx2> Wha?L180[17:49:55] <Warlord
Wossman> did I miss something ?
<Warlord
Wossman> did I miss something ?L181[17:50:28] <Warlord
Wossman> I am not sure what that is @CovertJaguar
<Warlord
Wossman> I am not sure what that is @CovertJaguarL183[17:51:33] <fLAK>
@Triaxx2 diesel engines you mean?
<fLAK>
@Triaxx2 diesel engines you mean?L184[17:51:37] <Warlord
Wossman> you got your own ore spawn by now?
<Warlord
Wossman> you got your own ore spawn by now?L185[17:51:48] <Warlord
Wossman> sorry if I am too dumb at this point ?
<Warlord
Wossman> sorry if I am too dumb at this point ?L187[17:52:20] <CovertJaguar> railcraft has a config
file based ore generator now yes
<CovertJaguar> railcraft has a config
file based ore generator now yesL188[17:52:39] <Warlord
Wossman> that's cool
<Warlord
Wossman> that's coolL189[17:53:02] <Warlord
Wossman> with gregtech ores spawned in veins for a while, I need
to make them even bigger tho for my pack
<Warlord
Wossman> with gregtech ores spawned in veins for a while, I need
to make them even bigger tho for my packL190[17:53:23] <fLAK>
I feel like TFC's ore gen was the best for that kind of
'ore vein' spawning
<fLAK>
I feel like TFC's ore gen was the best for that kind of
'ore vein' spawningL191[17:53:24] <Triaxx2> No, I was thinking more like
steam engines with fluid heating. So I could have a train hauling
fuel and water to way stations, instead of the charcoal
trains.
<Triaxx2> No, I was thinking more like
steam engines with fluid heating. So I could have a train hauling
fuel and water to way stations, instead of the charcoal
trains.L192[17:53:28] <CovertJaguar> well railcraft can do
that if you want to use it
<CovertJaguar> well railcraft can do
that if you want to use itL193[17:53:31] <Warlord
Wossman> but I was thinking bedrock veins that can only be
automined by a multiblock which needs tons of power and lubricant
or something
<Warlord
Wossman> but I was thinking bedrock veins that can only be
automined by a multiblock which needs tons of power and lubricant
or somethingL194[17:54:07] <Warlord
Wossman> I mean it's good to know, I will look into both
options for sure
<Warlord
Wossman> I mean it's good to know, I will look into both
options for sureL195[17:54:49] <Warlord
Wossman> I was also wondering hoe hard it would be to place
different stone types in layers the deeper you get to encourage
auto mining further but have not looked into it enough just
yet
<Warlord
Wossman> I was also wondering hoe hard it would be to place
different stone types in layers the deeper you get to encourage
auto mining further but have not looked into it enough just
yetL196[17:54:53] <Triaxx2> I wish the veins could be
more linear... in a line where mining a 3x3 with the tunnel bore
would grab a bunch of ores as it went along.
<Triaxx2> I wish the veins could be
more linear... in a line where mining a 3x3 with the tunnel bore
would grab a bunch of ores as it went along.L197[17:55:32] <Warlord
Wossman> I think the problem with the "huge veins"
concept is that most packs make the player too OP
<Warlord
Wossman> I think the problem with the "huge veins"
concept is that most packs make the player too OPL198[17:55:50] <fLAK>
which is why TFC did it right in a sense
<fLAK>
which is why TFC did it right in a senseL199[17:55:58] <Warlord
Wossman> if you have TiCo hammer that mines a vein as big as in
the picture in 15 minutes you would never make a train line
<Warlord
Wossman> if you have TiCo hammer that mines a vein as big as in
the picture in 15 minutes you would never make a train lineL200[17:56:12] <fLAK>
never for a moment did I feel overpowered playing with mods with
TFC installed
<fLAK>
never for a moment did I feel overpowered playing with mods with
TFC installedL201[17:56:20] <Warlord
Wossman> that's why I want ot keep hand tools slow
<Warlord
Wossman> that's why I want ot keep hand tools slowL202[17:56:38] <Warlord
Wossman> I know TFC is nice but also not very compatible with
other things
<Warlord
Wossman> I know TFC is nice but also not very compatible with
other thingsL203[17:56:56] <fLAK>
yep
<fLAK>
yepL204[17:57:06] <fLAK>
hey is TE worth installing rn?
<fLAK>
hey is TE worth installing rn?L205[17:58:07] <Warlord
Wossman> I think for my pack I want basically
"unlimited" ore deposits that can only be automined with
GT machinery and the infrastructure should be handled by RC,
that's the idea for now ?
<Warlord
Wossman> I think for my pack I want basically
"unlimited" ore deposits that can only be automined with
GT machinery and the infrastructure should be handled by RC,
that's the idea for now ?L206[17:58:13] <Warlord
Wossman> long way to go tho
<Warlord
Wossman> long way to go thoL207[17:58:42] <fLAK>
I want power storage for rf and whatnot, but I don't want
anything too retarded
<fLAK>
I want power storage for rf and whatnot, but I don't want
anything too retardedL208[17:59:02] <Warlord
Wossman> are you making a pack?
<Warlord
Wossman> are you making a pack?L209[17:59:10] <fLAK>
no I just want to have fun
<fLAK>
no I just want to have funL210[17:59:35] <Warlord
Wossman> hm, I bet there is something out there that only stores
RF and doesn't do a lot of other things
<Warlord
Wossman> hm, I bet there is something out there that only stores
RF and doesn't do a lot of other thingsL211[17:59:44] <Warlord
Wossman> use flux carts lol
<Warlord
Wossman> use flux carts lolL212[18:00:05] <fLAK>
but I don't want anything that adds cheap crap that makes more
techyy mods obsolite
<fLAK>
but I don't want anything that adds cheap crap that makes more
techyy mods obsoliteL213[18:00:42] <CovertJaguar> I never liked TCon
tools
<CovertJaguar> I never liked TCon
toolsL214[18:00:46] <Warlord
Wossman> flux carts would be a very technical power storage tbh,
you need to detect when the current one is empty and drive a new
one in from the cart stack ?
<Warlord
Wossman> flux carts would be a very technical power storage tbh,
you need to detect when the current one is empty and drive a new
one in from the cart stack ?L215[18:01:20] <Warlord
Wossman> TiCo , TE and ExU are probably my least fav mods
:>
<Warlord
Wossman> TiCo , TE and ExU are probably my least fav mods
:>L216[18:01:28] <fLAK>
this is why I wish I had GT right now, the old greg tech before
greg went on some autistic tangent and made his own total
conversion mod bs that means you dont need IC2 and stuff
<fLAK>
this is why I wish I had GT right now, the old greg tech before
greg went on some autistic tangent and made his own total
conversion mod bs that means you dont need IC2 and stuffL217[18:01:29] <Triaxx2> I like TiCon only because I
think the vanilla tools break completely mechanic is silly to
me.
<Triaxx2> I like TiCon only because I
think the vanilla tools break completely mechanic is silly to
me.L218[18:02:02] <Warlord
Wossman> meh
<Warlord
Wossman> mehL219[18:02:13] <CovertJaguar> I've broken enough
sledge hammers irl to know it happens xD
<CovertJaguar> I've broken enough
sledge hammers irl to know it happens xDL220[18:02:17] <Warlord
Wossman> @fLAK greg never split from IC2 I think
<Warlord
Wossman> @fLAK greg never split from IC2 I thinkL221[18:02:33] <Triaxx2> Yes, true, but you can also
repair a sledge hammer, which I've done.
<Triaxx2> Yes, true, but you can also
repair a sledge hammer, which I've done.L222[18:02:36] <CovertJaguar> shovels too
<CovertJaguar> shovels tooL223[18:02:40] <Trinsdar> Yes he did in gt 5
<Trinsdar> Yes he did in gt 5L224[18:02:52] <Warlord
Wossman> transformers
<Warlord
Wossman> transformersL225[18:03:13] <Trinsdar> And their is a secret gt
mod in the works
<Trinsdar> And their is a secret gt
mod in the worksL226[18:03:28] <fLAK>
I loved the multiblock structures in one of the GT version before
he apparently removed them, and went a different route, I have no
idea what happened with it and I'm not interested in reading
through like 283 pages of changelog
<fLAK>
I loved the multiblock structures in one of the GT version before
he apparently removed them, and went a different route, I have no
idea what happened with it and I'm not interested in reading
through like 283 pages of changelogL227[18:03:30] <Trinsdar> That is an ic2 addon
<Trinsdar> That is an ic2 addonL228[18:03:53] <Trinsdar> Ic2 classic
specificly
<Trinsdar> Ic2 classic
specificlyL229[18:03:56] <Chocohead> "Secret"
<Chocohead> "Secret"L230[18:03:57] <Warlord
Wossman> idk, I like the newer GT versions a lot, probably a
pointless discussion
<Warlord
Wossman> idk, I like the newer GT versions a lot, probably a
pointless discussionL231[18:04:19] <Warlord
Wossman> I just don't want FE or RF as the main power
because it doesn't come with a lot of depth
<Warlord
Wossman> I just don't want FE or RF as the main power
because it doesn't come with a lot of depthL232[18:04:23] <Triaxx2> @fLAK if you like those, you
might want to check out Tech Reborn. It took the good old 1.4.7
multi-blocks and brought them forward.
<Triaxx2> @fLAK if you like those, you
might want to check out Tech Reborn. It took the good old 1.4.7
multi-blocks and brought them forward.L233[18:04:32] <fLAK>
then theres all this "IC2 classic", GT unofficial, and
the like
<fLAK>
then theres all this "IC2 classic", GT unofficial, and
the likeL234[18:04:58] <Trinsdar> F*** tech reborn
<Trinsdar> F*** tech rebornL235[18:05:03] <Trinsdar> It uses fe
<Trinsdar> It uses feL236[18:05:14] <Warlord
Wossman> isn't tech reborn a cheap ripoff with RF lol
<Warlord
Wossman> isn't tech reborn a cheap ripoff with RF lolL237[18:05:14] <Triaxx2> What?
<Triaxx2> What?L238[18:05:34] <Triaxx2> Tech Reborn runs on all
three. And what exactly is wrong with FE?
<Triaxx2> Tech Reborn runs on all
three. And what exactly is wrong with FE?L239[18:05:36] <Trinsdar> Yes it is
<Trinsdar> Yes it isL240[18:05:58] <Trinsdar> And it has terrible code
from what I've heard
<Trinsdar> And it has terrible code
from what I've heardL241[18:06:08] <Warlord
Wossman> well there is nothing wrong with FE I guess but I like
a power system with more depth
<Warlord
Wossman> well there is nothing wrong with FE I guess but I like
a power system with more depthL242[18:07:11] <Warlord
Wossman> I will wait for Jaguar to add carts that work with GTCE
?
<Warlord
Wossman> I will wait for Jaguar to add carts that work with GTCE
?L243[18:07:23] <Triaxx2> I thought it was just a
'totally not RF but RF compatible API'.
<Triaxx2> I thought it was just a
'totally not RF but RF compatible API'.L244[18:07:47] <Trinsdar> Basically means it's
rf
<Trinsdar> Basically means it's
rfL245[18:08:04] <Trinsdar> That's the definition
of fe
<Trinsdar> That's the definition
of feL246[18:08:29] <Trinsdar> Well mostly
<Trinsdar> Well mostlyL247[18:14:00] <fLAK>
I feel like forge should handle some world gen itself
<fLAK>
I feel like forge should handle some world gen itselfL248[18:16:23] <fLAK>
like by now it's clear every other mod out there uses extra
metals like copper and tin and lead etc. so if forge could add some
worldgen and materials mod, all other mods could use it instead
having to code their own coppers and shit
<fLAK>
like by now it's clear every other mod out there uses extra
metals like copper and tin and lead etc. so if forge could add some
worldgen and materials mod, all other mods could use it instead
having to code their own coppers and shitL249[18:17:07] <Warlord
Wossman> as long as it's shipped on it's own I
wouldn't mind
<Warlord
Wossman> as long as it's shipped on it's own I
wouldn't mindL250[18:17:27] <Warlord
Wossman> as long as it's shipped on its own I wouldn't
mind [Edited]
<Warlord
Wossman> as long as it's shipped on its own I wouldn't
mind [Edited]L251[18:18:32] <fLAK>
the added bonus is that because forge would handle it, even if a
favourite mod isn't completely ready for a new version of MC
the worldgen would be already taken care of somewhat
<fLAK>
the added bonus is that because forge would handle it, even if a
favourite mod isn't completely ready for a new version of MC
the worldgen would be already taken care of somewhatL253[18:19:14] <Warlord
Wossman> ?
<Warlord
Wossman> ?L254[18:19:26] <Chocohead> The ore registry was
suggested and postponed
<Chocohead> The ore registry was
suggested and postponedL255[18:20:01] <fLAK>
true, but the MC modding community is much smaller than the real
world as a whole, and I think by now everyone big has communicated
with each other
<fLAK>
true, but the MC modding community is much smaller than the real
world as a whole, and I think by now everyone big has communicated
with each otherL256[18:20:08] <Warlord
Wossman> for me it feels easy enough to tweak it with
configs
<Warlord
Wossman> for me it feels easy enough to tweak it with
configsL257[18:20:43] <Chocohead> There'll always be
someone who won't use it
<Chocohead> There'll always be
someone who won't use itL258[18:20:51] <Chocohead> Mekanism still has a gas
API
<Chocohead> Mekanism still has a gas
APIL259[18:20:59] <Chocohead> Which no one else
supports
<Chocohead> Which no one else
supportsL260[18:21:10] <fLAK>
wasn't that a UE mod way back?
<fLAK>
wasn't that a UE mod way back?L261[18:21:42] <Triaxx2> EnderIO supported the
GasAPI.
<Triaxx2> EnderIO supported the
GasAPI.L262[18:21:43] <Chocohead> It was back in the day,
used EU before that
<Chocohead> It was back in the day,
used EU before thatL263[18:21:59] <Chocohead> Was once an IC2
addon
<Chocohead> Was once an IC2
addonL264[18:22:11] <Triaxx2> Annoyingly Engineer's
Toolbox had an entirely separate gas system which was also
unsupported.
<Triaxx2> Annoyingly Engineer's
Toolbox had an entirely separate gas system which was also
unsupported.L265[18:22:57] <fLAK>
no I mean that Universal Electricity thing started up by caliclava
(I think that's how it's spelt)
<fLAK>
no I mean that Universal Electricity thing started up by caliclava
(I think that's how it's spelt)L266[18:23:20] <fLAK>
remember that ICBM mod
<fLAK>
remember that ICBM modL267[18:23:27] <fLAK>
that shit was hilarious
<fLAK>
that shit was hilariousL268[18:23:53] <Chocohead> Mek jumped from EU to use
UE after it started doing the same things IC2 dis
<Chocohead> Mek jumped from EU to use
UE after it started doing the same things IC2 disL269[18:23:59] <Chocohead> Mek jumped from EU to use
UE after it started doing the same things IC2 did [Edited]
<Chocohead> Mek jumped from EU to use
UE after it started doing the same things IC2 did [Edited]L270[18:24:51] <fLAK>
I felt like UE was a great project but it seems like it lost steam
and died quietly
<fLAK>
I felt like UE was a great project but it seems like it lost steam
and died quietlyL271[18:26:21] <CovertJaguar> it was ambitious and
grew to the point maintenance likely became a nightmare
<CovertJaguar> it was ambitious and
grew to the point maintenance likely became a nightmareL272[18:26:56] <CovertJaguar> which is true of most
ambitious mods, even railcraft suffers
<CovertJaguar> which is true of most
ambitious mods, even railcraft suffersL273[18:27:00] <fLAK>
I was excited because I felt like it would motivate the IC2 team to
be more creative
<fLAK>
I was excited because I felt like it would motivate the IC2 team to
be more creativeL274[18:28:16] <fLAK>
I feel like RCs problems come from the fact that its design early
on was in the scope of being an addon for a mod, rather than 100%
an extra rails mod
<fLAK>
I feel like RCs problems come from the fact that its design early
on was in the scope of being an addon for a mod, rather than 100%
an extra rails modL275[18:28:33] <fLAK>
also you guys really focus a lot on the signalling
<fLAK>
also you guys really focus a lot on the signallingL276[18:29:05] <Chocohead> Scope and size are big
pressures
<Chocohead> Scope and size are big
pressuresL277[18:29:24] <Chocohead> The fact IC2 needed
pushing was due to the same things
<Chocohead> The fact IC2 needed
pushing was due to the same thingsL278[18:29:39] <fLAK>
which was what?
<fLAK>
which was what?L279[18:29:42] <fLAK>
I'm tired
<fLAK>
I'm tiredL280[18:30:25] <liach>
we should stay from energy system a bit and just focus on minecarts
for now
<liach>
we should stay from energy system a bit and just focus on minecarts
for nowL281[18:31:28] <Warlord
Wossman> tbh I am mostly using RC because of rails and carts
anyways ?
<Warlord
Wossman> tbh I am mostly using RC because of rails and carts
anyways ?L282[18:32:03] <liach>
i use rc machines, but i use tracks and carts most of the
time
<liach>
i use rc machines, but i use tracks and carts most of the
timeL283[18:32:18] <fLAK>
is AE still a decent mod too? I want storage solutions, but I think
the iron chests stuff is too cheap, and other mods look like
cancer
<fLAK>
is AE still a decent mod too? I want storage solutions, but I think
the iron chests stuff is too cheap, and other mods look like
cancerL284[18:32:23] <Warlord
Wossman> I like the multiblocks alot but never did much with
charge tbh
<Warlord
Wossman> I like the multiblocks alot but never did much with
charge tbhL285[18:32:44] <Warlord
Wossman> I never liked AE tbh
<Warlord
Wossman> I never liked AE tbhL286[18:33:06] <madman> Ae still good there's
also a lazy alternative to it refined storage
<madman> Ae still good there's
also a lazy alternative to it refined storageL287[18:33:29] <Warlord
Wossman> refined storage is like thermal expansion of AE
lmao
<Warlord
Wossman> refined storage is like thermal expansion of AE
lmaoL288[18:33:35] <fLAK>
I like the concept of the digital storage
<fLAK>
I like the concept of the digital storageL289[18:33:36] <Chocohead> @fLAK Scope and size, it
was comparatively huge trying to do many things
<Chocohead> @fLAK Scope and size, it
was comparatively huge trying to do many thingsL290[18:33:52] <madman> Same style of mod just
without channels
<madman> Same style of mod just
without channelsL291[18:34:39] <Warlord
Wossman> I honestly like vanilla ways of storing items,
shulkerboxes are really cool to compress the space items take
up
<Warlord
Wossman> I honestly like vanilla ways of storing items,
shulkerboxes are really cool to compress the space items take
upL292[18:34:44] <fLAK>
@Chocohead like what, and what time frame are you talking about,
before or during the existence of GT?
<fLAK>
@Chocohead like what, and what time frame are you talking about,
before or during the existence of GT?L293[18:35:06] <Chocohead> This was GT2/3 era
<Chocohead> This was GT2/3 eraL294[18:35:06] ⇦
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really
<Chocohead> Just before experimental
reallyL296[18:35:36]
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L297[18:35:56] <Chocohead> It was doing nearly
everything Forge hooked
<Chocohead> It was doing nearly
everything Forge hookedL298[18:36:12] <madman> Storage draws is another good
one
<madman> Storage draws is another good
oneL299[18:36:41] <fLAK>
was greg on the IC2 dev team at some point? because when I got back
into MC modding like a month ago I was impressed that IC2 seemed to
have added more depth to machine making (aka making stuff more
expensive)
<fLAK>
was greg on the IC2 dev team at some point? because when I got back
into MC modding like a month ago I was impressed that IC2 seemed to
have added more depth to machine making (aka making stuff more
expensive)L300[18:37:21] <Chocohead> He did some things in 1.6
and very early 1.7
<Chocohead> He did some things in 1.6
and very early 1.7L301[18:37:38] <Chocohead> Thunderdark was the one
that added lots of the content though
<Chocohead> Thunderdark was the one
that added lots of the content thoughL302[18:37:46] <Chocohead> With Player
<Chocohead> With PlayerL303[18:38:56] <fLAK>
did people complain about stuff being "too hard" like
when greg tech started being included in modpacks?
<fLAK>
did people complain about stuff being "too hard" like
when greg tech started being included in modpacks?L304[18:39:15] <Chocohead> Certainly did
<Chocohead> Certainly didL305[18:39:30] <Chocohead> The reputation comes from
it really
<Chocohead> The reputation comes from
it reallyL306[18:39:39] <fLAK>
the salt was unreal irrc, so many tears about greg
"ruining" other mods
<fLAK>
the salt was unreal irrc, so many tears about greg
"ruining" other modsL307[18:40:02] <Chocohead> No mod had changed recipes
like that before other than Better than Wolves
<Chocohead> No mod had changed recipes
like that before other than Better than WolvesL308[18:40:24] <fLAK>
it's like, delete it from the pack and don't play with it
if you don't like it you mongols lol
<fLAK>
it's like, delete it from the pack and don't play with it
if you don't like it you mongols lolL309[18:41:10] <Chocohead> It was adding significant
parts of the tech tree for 1.4, later on it overgrew to be a more
specialised pack type mod
<Chocohead> It was adding significant
parts of the tech tree for 1.4, later on it overgrew to be a more
specialised pack type modL310[18:41:40] <fLAK>
and were mod devs getting mad at him too? I remember one dev going
like "greggie stop changing things with my mod
:)))))))"
<fLAK>
and were mod devs getting mad at him too? I remember one dev going
like "greggie stop changing things with my mod
:)))))))"L311[18:41:59] <fLAK>
or something like that
<fLAK>
or something like thatL312[18:43:17] <Chocohead> MDiyo did
<Chocohead> MDiyo didL313[18:43:53] <Chocohead> MFR and Factorisation both
added the socks
<Chocohead> MFR and Factorisation both
added the socksL314[18:44:26] <Chocohead> For a while MFR broke the
game adding everything to a dummy ore dictionary category which GT
choked on
<Chocohead> For a while MFR broke the
game adding everything to a dummy ore dictionary category which GT
choked onL315[18:44:30] <Triaxx2> Signalling still makes me
shudder. I have a 1.7.10 world with a massive rail system, but the
signalling is a nightmare and I have a massive construction train
now full to the brim with rails. (23 chest carts of rails.) And
I'm going to have to shepherd the entire thing through the
signals manually.
<Triaxx2> Signalling still makes me
shudder. I have a 1.7.10 world with a massive rail system, but the
signalling is a nightmare and I have a massive construction train
now full to the brim with rails. (23 chest carts of rails.) And
I'm going to have to shepherd the entire thing through the
signals manually.L316[18:44:31] <liach>
oh about factorization, neptunepunk is here
<liach>
oh about factorization, neptunepunk is hereL317[18:45:48] <Trinsdar> @fLAK speaking of gregtech
if you're interested I can PM you the link to the gt mod I
mentioned earlier. Unless you'de rather it be a surprise when
it come out.
<Trinsdar> @fLAK speaking of gregtech
if you're interested I can PM you the link to the gt mod I
mentioned earlier. Unless you'de rather it be a surprise when
it come out.L318[18:46:35] <fLAK>
sure, tell me about it in the PM a little, I'm probably going
to forget it tomorrow otherwise
<fLAK>
sure, tell me about it in the PM a little, I'm probably going
to forget it tomorrow otherwiseL319[18:47:09] <Trinsdar> Ok I'll do it on a
couple minutes
<Trinsdar> Ok I'll do it on a
couple minutesL320[18:47:19] <fLAK>
take your time\
<fLAK>
take your time\L321[18:47:26] <fLAK>
I'm in no rush
<fLAK>
I'm in no rushL322[18:48:09] <fLAK>
oh hey is that two different tube systems in project red I see?
wtf
<fLAK>
oh hey is that two different tube systems in project red I see?
wtfL323[18:49:08] <fLAK>
I just made a bunch of that stuff to try it out, and there's
some really strange behaviour that does not remind me of the old RP
tubes at all.
<fLAK>
I just made a bunch of that stuff to try it out, and there's
some really strange behaviour that does not remind me of the old RP
tubes at all.L324[18:49:33] <Warlord
Wossman> what do you mean 2 tube systems?
<Warlord
Wossman> what do you mean 2 tube systems?L325[18:49:48] <Warlord
Wossman> thought it only had the pipes with the chips
<Warlord
Wossman> thought it only had the pipes with the chipsL326[18:50:40] <fLAK>
apparently there's ones that work like the old BC logistics
pipes addon, and the other is some gimped PoS version of the old RP
tubes
<fLAK>
apparently there's ones that work like the old BC logistics
pipes addon, and the other is some gimped PoS version of the old RP
tubesL327[18:52:26] <Warlord
Wossman> oh, the RP like ones are the
"pressured"
<Warlord
Wossman> oh, the RP like ones are the
"pressured"L328[18:52:34] <Warlord
Wossman> and the other ones are the LP ones?
<Warlord
Wossman> and the other ones are the LP ones?L329[18:52:42] <fLAK>
I think so
<fLAK>
I think soL330[18:52:49] <fLAK>
for f sakes why did eloraam have to be such an egotistical
cunt?
<fLAK>
for f sakes why did eloraam have to be such an egotistical
cunt?L331[18:55:14] <fLAK>
we could have had an actual RP continuation now instead of these
weak clones, but I guess keeping the whole mod development to
herself while pouring the RP donation funds into creating her own
crappy game to release on steam was the right way to go
<fLAK>
we could have had an actual RP continuation now instead of these
weak clones, but I guess keeping the whole mod development to
herself while pouring the RP donation funds into creating her own
crappy game to release on steam was the right way to goL332[18:58:15] <fLAK>
I'm 99% sure I actually ran into her in csgo MM about a year
and a half ago, and I got blocked immediately when I asked about
RP
<fLAK>
I'm 99% sure I actually ran into her in csgo MM about a year
and a half ago, and I got blocked immediately when I asked about
RPL333[19:10:46] <Trinsdar> What a dick
<Trinsdar> What a dickL334[19:11:25] <Chocohead> People have innovated
since at least
<Chocohead> People have innovated
since at leastL335[19:11:40] <Chocohead> Not like we're still
just looking backwards for design
<Chocohead> Not like we're still
just looking backwards for designL336[19:12:51] <Trinsdar> There are mods that take
the idea and differ some such as the simple logic mods(aka
charset)
<Trinsdar> There are mods that take
the idea and differ some such as the simple logic mods(aka
charset)L337[19:15:09] ⇦
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better than RP ever did.
<Triaxx2> Funky locomotion does frames
better than RP ever did.L339[19:22:29] <fLAK>
I liked how RP did frames in its interaction with the computers, I
thought computercraft was cheap as fuck and looked silly, so I was
really interested in using RP computers
<fLAK>
I liked how RP did frames in its interaction with the computers, I
thought computercraft was cheap as fuck and looked silly, so I was
really interested in using RP computersL340[19:23:24] <fLAK>
iirc someone even created a version of ms-dos for it
<fLAK>
iirc someone even created a version of ms-dos for itL341[19:24:26]
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L348[19:44:32] <fLAK>
hey is steel production still 1 coal coke = 1 steel?
<fLAK>
hey is steel production still 1 coal coke = 1 steel?L349[19:46:15] <Trinsdar> I think it's 2 coal
coke to one steel
<Trinsdar> I think it's 2 coal
coke to one steelL350[19:47:27] <fLAK>
hmm, the wiki is wrong again then
<fLAK>
hmm, the wiki is wrong again thenL351[19:47:49] <Trinsdar> when is the wiki
right?
<Trinsdar> when is the wiki
right?L352[19:49:03] <fLAK>
I've been smelting iron blocks in the blast furnace and
it's been requiring 2 coke blocks and a little bit more, like
less than a piece of charcoal
<fLAK>
I've been smelting iron blocks in the blast furnace and
it's been requiring 2 coke blocks and a little bit more, like
less than a piece of charcoalL353[19:49:19] <Trinsdar> yah I think it's
technically 2.1
<Trinsdar> yah I think it's
technically 2.1L354[19:49:31] <Trinsdar> which is kinda stupid and
should just be 2
<Trinsdar> which is kinda stupid and
should just be 2L355[19:49:37] <fLAK>
Reeeeeeeee
<fLAK>
ReeeeeeeeeL356[19:51:47] <liach>
i think it is just 2
<liach>
i think it is just 2L357[19:52:16] <liach>
the coal coke got nerfed in series 8, from cooking 32 items to only
16 items in a furnace
<liach>
the coal coke got nerfed in series 8, from cooking 32 items to only
16 items in a furnaceL358[19:52:42] <liach>
but its cook time was decreased from 3000 ticks to 1800 ticks (150s
to 90s)
<liach>
but its cook time was decreased from 3000 ticks to 1800 ticks (150s
to 90s)L359[20:00:41] <CovertJaguar> and the main reason for
that was that the Coke Block broke furnaces because it had too much
burn value xD
<CovertJaguar> and the main reason for
that was that the Coke Block broke furnaces because it had too much
burn value xDL360[20:04:54] <fLAK>
vanilla MC and limitations, name a more iconic duo
<fLAK>
vanilla MC and limitations, name a more iconic duoL361[20:05:44] <Triaxx2> Redstone and tick lag
<Triaxx2> Redstone and tick lagL362[20:10:17] <fLAK>
is the steel anvil just a normal anvil with more durability?
<fLAK>
is the steel anvil just a normal anvil with more durability?L363[20:11:16] <liach>
yes. it has double durability, expect it to break after 50 rather
than 25 uses
<liach>
yes. it has double durability, expect it to break after 50 rather
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L380[21:06:59] <CovertJaguar> I think it also has a
slightly higher max enchantment rating as well
<CovertJaguar> I think it also has a
slightly higher max enchantment rating as wellL381[21:25:30]
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L391[21:49:47] <liach>
yeah, the level is 50 instead of 40
<liach>
yeah, the level is 50 instead of 40L392[21:59:20]
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