L2[06:13:18] <CovertJaguar> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ruqicunuwe

L3[06:14:13] <Forecaster> sell them virtual carts

L4[09:06:02] <texaswriter> LOL

L5[09:16:55] <KillTyrant> "Dear customer" -> "I will be very glad if you get back to me with the available sizes/models or a link.And also I want to know if you do accept credit card for this purchase."

L6[09:16:55] <KillTyrant> Whos actually the customer here?

L7[09:17:59] <Forecaster> to me it sounds like they want to buy carts

L8[09:19:58] <KillTyrant> yeah, its just weird that they refer to CJ as a customer within that same email.

L9[09:20:20] <Forecaster> yeah

L10[09:21:15] <KillTyrant> btw

L11[09:21:17] <KillTyrant> https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/rail-craft-models-o-scale-freight-cars

L12[09:21:26] <KillTyrant> might be why they emailed you

L14[10:01:57] <wormzjl> Is the RC boiler calculator made by forecaster still appliable on 1.12 versions?

L15[10:01:59] <wormzjl> https://calculator.towerofawesome.org

L16[10:02:29] <Forecaster> yes

L17[10:02:49] <wormzjl> It's kinda weird that the fuel efficiency for LP boiler is 20% higher than HP boiler

L18[10:02:59] <Forecaster> why?

L19[10:03:07] <Forecaster> slower burn is more efficient

L20[10:08:55] <wormzjl> The problem is, you need to invest more resources, to get something less efficient

L21[10:09:30] <wormzjl> And 20% is a big cut

L22[10:11:14] <wormzjl> One could always spam LP boilers, since it's just iron

L23[10:14:27] <Forecaster> you invest more resources to get more speed in a smaller space

L25[13:05:48] <liach> @wormzjl open issue asap (details)

L26[13:07:48] <Natesky9> Honestly, the numbers don't need to be super accurate

L27[13:08:43] <Natesky9> It'd be fine if hp just produced double and was half as efficient

L28[13:09:11] <Natesky9> Because at the point you can actually use an hp boiler, resources don't really matter

L30[13:18:37] <wormzjl> here it goes

L31[14:05:02] <CovertJaguar> I don't do teiring. If you didn't have to chose one or the other, then there would only be one version. The way it is now forces you to consider trade offs.

L32[14:05:46] <CovertJaguar> The benefit to HP is mainly space considerations. More power in a more compact package.

L33[14:06:25] <CovertJaguar> But at the expense of efficiency.

L34[14:30:14] <CovertJaguar> I am however tempted to shorten the heat up time on the hp

L35[14:30:50] <CovertJaguar> It's a bit rediculous atm

L36[14:52:39] <KillTyrant> The heat up time is fine as is. They could used the Firestone to heat it up nice and quick if the user has an issue. It increases the "value" of such an item.

L39[15:14:02] <CovertJaguar> true

L40[15:46:13] <KillTyrant> Question though. Are the boilers based on anything? As in the name sake, high/low pressure boilers.

L45[20:57:35] <YukaiDragon> how does one power the steam turbine witht he boiler

L46[20:58:13] <Natesky9> Boiler auto ejects

L47[20:58:25] <Natesky9> When over half full

L48[21:07:07] <YukaiDragon> o

L49[21:07:11] <YukaiDragon> its working now :3

L50[21:15:41] <CovertJaguar> well there are generally two types of steam systems, normal or super heated, they have advantages and disadvantages

L51[21:16:33] <CovertJaguar> super heated steam systems have less ability to do work, but the steam is drier and causes less wear and tear on the turbine at the cost of overall efficiency and higher temps

L52[21:18:27] <Natesky9> That exists in Railcraft?

L53[21:18:51] <CovertJaguar> well that's the reality that high and low pressure boilers are based on

L54[21:20:14] <CovertJaguar> I wouldn't be opposed to adding super-heated steam as a fluid though and making it less damaging to turbines

L55[21:22:25] <Natesky9> I'd argue that if it's enough effort to set up that kind of system, it shouldn't damage the turbines at all

L56[21:26:07] <Natesky9> Granted, there isn't much of a progression system to keep players from skipping right to that

L57[21:26:50] <Natesky9> For example, in thermal, you need at least 3 machines to upgrade to the next tier

L58[21:39:44] <KillTyrant> @Natesky9

L59[21:39:44] <KillTyrant> He stated he doesnt do tiered, so i dont think that would bother him.

L60[21:40:29] <Natesky9> Yeah, I know

L61[21:43:39] <Natesky9> Isn't there a manual tier for the rolling machine though?

L62[21:48:42] <KillTyrant> havent played with the rolling machine, does the normal

L63[21:48:52] <KillTyrant> rolling machine require the manual one?

L64[21:58:04] <KillTyrant> @CovertJaguar

L65[21:58:04] <KillTyrant> There is something called a condenser boiler and is ~90% efficient. It uses water vapor from the combustion of liquid fuel (Gas, oil) Maybe have it (as a trade off of sorts) that the LP boiler can only be made with liquid boilers.

L66[21:58:50] <KillTyrant> @CovertJaguar

L67[21:58:51] <KillTyrant> There is something called a condenser boiler and is ~90% efficient. It uses water vapor from the combustion of liquid fuel (Gas, oil) on top of the water from inside the heat exchanger. Maybe have it (as a trade off of sorts) that the LP boiler can only be made with liquid boilers. [Edited]

L68[22:06:13] <CovertJaguar> The manual rolling machine is a necessity, without it you can't make charge. It was added because we had a dependancy loop that was causing problems.

L69[22:07:18] <YukaiDragon> how do you use the admin steam block :v

L70[22:07:47] <CovertJaguar> Hobbyist Steam Engine used to fill the role of gateway device. But with the switch away from the engines we had a problem.

L71[22:09:00] <CovertJaguar> We had no low entry level charge production

L72[22:09:19] <CovertJaguar> Admin steam block needs Redstone