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<liach>
@CovertJaguar It seems railcraft tile entities get cme frequently
in singleplayer debug worlds (mainly actuator) and we need a
fix
<liach>
@CovertJaguar It seems railcraft tile entities get cme frequently
in singleplayer debug worlds (mainly actuator) and we need a
fixL2[02:41:57] <Cream
Tea> I tried the interlock thing for that problem
<Cream
Tea> I tried the interlock thing for that problemL3[02:42:12] <Cream
Tea> I want to solve this just for the fact that I don't
like unsolved puzzles ??
<Cream
Tea> I want to solve this just for the fact that I don't
like unsolved puzzles ??L4[02:42:24] <Cream
Tea> For anyone who didn't see:
<Cream
Tea> For anyone who didn't see:L5[02:42:25] <Cream
Tea> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/408696809372778496/2018-02-01_18.54.33.png
<Cream
Tea> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/408696809372778496/2018-02-01_18.54.33.pngL6[02:42:38] <Cream
Tea> Obviously it's short for demonstration purposes
<Cream
Tea> Obviously it's short for demonstration purposesL7[02:42:45] <Cream
Tea> but supposing the length of single track was longer
<Cream
Tea> but supposing the length of single track was longerL8[02:42:55] <Cream
Tea> trains from the left and right should have priority,
<Cream
Tea> trains from the left and right should have priority,L9[02:43:09] <Cream
Tea> but when a train from the left goes past it should let the
train from the branch join
<Cream
Tea> but when a train from the left goes past it should let the
train from the branch joinL10[02:43:22] <Cream
Tea> if the aspect is yellow, otherwise it could be waiting
there forever.
<Cream
Tea> if the aspect is yellow, otherwise it could be waiting
there forever.L11[02:43:42] <Cream
Tea> The interlock boxes did what they were supposed to do,
however I don't think it's what I want them to do.
<Cream
Tea> The interlock boxes did what they were supposed to do,
however I don't think it's what I want them to do.L12[02:44:10] <Cream
Tea> The interlocks only allow one at a time, whereas here it
almost works, it's just when a train goes to the left it lets
both the branch and the one on the right collide.
<Cream
Tea> The interlocks only allow one at a time, whereas here it
almost works, it's just when a train goes to the left it lets
both the branch and the one on the right collide.L13[02:44:17] <Cream
Tea> But then when there isn't a train on the branch
<Cream
Tea> But then when there isn't a train on the branchL14[02:44:22] <Cream
Tea> it still makes the right red sometimes.
<Cream
Tea> it still makes the right red sometimes.L15[02:44:38] <Cream
Tea> If there isn't a train on the branch it should be
allowed to let one from the right go through.
<Cream
Tea> If there isn't a train on the branch it should be
allowed to let one from the right go through.L16[02:44:41] <Cream
Tea> Any ideas?
<Cream
Tea> Any ideas?L17[02:45:30] ⇦
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L18[02:48:45] <Cream
Tea> I did manage to get the interlocks working but it
doesn't give the required result.
<Cream
Tea> I did manage to get the interlocks working but it
doesn't give the required result.L19[02:48:56] <Cream
Tea> Not sure if what I said is too confusing ??
<Cream
Tea> Not sure if what I said is too confusing ??L20[02:49:12] <Cream
Tea> basically the two double sections get priority,
<Cream
Tea> basically the two double sections get priority,L21[02:49:22] <Cream
Tea> but the branch should still be able to come on if the
it's yellow
<Cream
Tea> but the branch should still be able to come on if the
it's yellowL22[02:49:27] <Cream
Tea> like heading to the right
<Cream
Tea> like heading to the rightL23[02:51:29] <liach>
i think you should just ask covertjaguar
<liach>
i think you should just ask covertjaguarL24[02:51:44] <liach>
anyways nothing is really going on in railcraft
<liach>
anyways nothing is really going on in railcraftL25[02:51:52] <CovertJaguar> hmm
L26[02:53:18] <CovertJaguar> don't know what
would cause CMEs
<CovertJaguar> don't know what
would cause CMEsL27[02:53:24] <Hanakocz> @Cream Tea you probably
should make those pictures with aura goggles equipped, so the
connections are visible
<Hanakocz> @Cream Tea you probably
should make those pictures with aura goggles equipped, so the
connections are visibleL28[02:53:39] <Cream
Tea> yeah
<Cream
Tea> yeahL29[02:53:45] <Cream
Tea> I should
<Cream
Tea> I shouldL30[02:55:22] <liach>
@CovertJaguar I think it is client thread looking up tile entities
while server thread loads them
<liach>
@CovertJaguar I think it is client thread looking up tile entities
while server thread loads themL31[02:55:57] <Hanakocz> you know what might be a
problem? you just send the "go" signal to two parts at
once, but then both trains start going on same time. You need to
postpone one signal by a little (repeaters?)
<Hanakocz> you know what might be a
problem? you just send the "go" signal to two parts at
once, but then both trains start going on same time. You need to
postpone one signal by a little (repeaters?)L32[02:56:07] <Cream
Tea> yeah probably
<Cream
Tea> yeah probablyL33[02:56:12] <Cream
Tea> hmm
<Cream
Tea> hmmL34[02:56:16] <Cream
Tea> put then it will still do it
<Cream
Tea> put then it will still do itL35[02:56:17] <CovertJaguar> eh? would that cause a
CME? if so should be easy fix, just check if chunk is loaded before
looking them up
<CovertJaguar> eh? would that cause a
CME? if so should be easy fix, just check if chunk is loaded before
looking them upL36[02:56:28] <Cream
Tea> actually no they're the same length
<Cream
Tea> actually no they're the same lengthL37[02:56:33] <Cream
Tea> from the block signals, perhaps.
<Cream
Tea> from the block signals, perhaps.L38[02:58:08] <CovertJaguar> I think I'd need
to see a pick with interlocks and links
<CovertJaguar> I think I'd need
to see a pick with interlocks and linksL39[02:58:23] <Hanakocz> tea, you need to postpone
it by the amount of time that is needed if first train sent foward,
and if yes, it will block signal to the second line
<Hanakocz> tea, you need to postpone
it by the amount of time that is needed if first train sent foward,
and if yes, it will block signal to the second lineL40[03:00:52] <LizzyTheSiren> i'm not sure what
CME means in this context, the only thing that is coming to mind is
coronal mass ejections
<LizzyTheSiren> i'm not sure what
CME means in this context, the only thing that is coming to mind is
coronal mass ejectionsL41[03:06:02] <Cream
Tea> i don't even need the problem solved for
anything
<Cream
Tea> i don't even need the problem solved for
anythingL42[03:06:08] <Cream
Tea> but it's one i've been trying to figure out for
ages
<Cream
Tea> but it's one i've been trying to figure out for
agesL43[03:06:12] <Cream
Tea> and I hate unsolved problems
<Cream
Tea> and I hate unsolved problemsL44[03:06:40] <Cream
Tea> i'll get a picture with the goggles
<Cream
Tea> i'll get a picture with the gogglesL45[03:07:04] <liach>
@LizzyTheSiren I mean concurrentmodificationexception
<liach>
@LizzyTheSiren I mean concurrentmodificationexceptionL46[03:09:31] <LizzyTheSiren> ah
<LizzyTheSiren> ahL48[03:09:35] <Cream
Tea> Here
<Cream
Tea> HereL49[03:09:39] <Cream
Tea> and a closeup:
<Cream
Tea> and a closeup:L51[03:10:27] <Cream
Tea> The interlock is letting one out at a time
<Cream
Tea> The interlock is letting one out at a timeL52[03:10:31] <Cream
Tea> BUT
<Cream
Tea> BUTL53[03:10:35] <Cream
Tea> as you can see, there is no traffic on the branch
<Cream
Tea> as you can see, there is no traffic on the branchL54[03:10:42] <Cream
Tea> but it still holds the main line
<Cream
Tea> but it still holds the main lineL56[03:15:14] <Cream
Tea> for some reason it didn't show it but that receiver is
linked to that end
<Cream
Tea> for some reason it didn't show it but that receiver is
linked to that endL58[03:17:45] <CovertJaguar> you have a few extra
parts in your setup I think
<CovertJaguar> you have a few extra
parts in your setup I thinkL60[03:18:34] <Cream
Tea> This bit is a receiver and a controller
<Cream
Tea> This bit is a receiver and a controllerL61[03:18:38] <Cream
Tea> not influenced by the interlock
<Cream
Tea> not influenced by the interlockL62[03:18:44] <Cream
Tea> because here the trains are going out
<Cream
Tea> because here the trains are going outL63[03:18:52] <Cream
Tea> I didn't think it needed it
<Cream
Tea> I didn't think it needed itL64[03:18:55] <Cream
Tea> and trains can't come in
<Cream
Tea> and trains can't come inL65[03:19:01] <Cream
Tea> because if it's yellow or red it will stop
<Cream
Tea> because if it's yellow or red it will stopL67[03:19:32] <Cream
Tea> doesn't go that way
<Cream
Tea> doesn't go that wayL68[03:20:17] <CovertJaguar> you signals are also
really far away from the block boundaries (the locking
tracks)
<CovertJaguar> you signals are also
really far away from the block boundaries (the locking
tracks)L69[03:20:34] <Cream
Tea> They are all equal lengths away
<Cream
Tea> They are all equal lengths awayL70[03:20:40] <Cream
Tea> I guess that would affect it though.
<Cream
Tea> I guess that would affect it though.L71[03:20:59] <CovertJaguar> equal yes, but the
trains can move into the block for a while before the interlock
knows about it
<CovertJaguar> equal yes, but the
trains can move into the block for a while before the interlock
knows about itL72[03:21:12] <Cream
Tea> yeah
<Cream
Tea> yeahL73[03:21:18] <Cream
Tea> but even without that issue
<Cream
Tea> but even without that issueL74[03:21:22] <Cream
Tea> when the train uh goes out
<Cream
Tea> when the train uh goes outL75[03:21:24] <Cream
Tea> let me draw it
<Cream
Tea> let me draw itL76[03:22:59] <CovertJaguar> you probably also need
three lanes on the interlock, instead of using the interlock
override for the third input
<CovertJaguar> you probably also need
three lanes on the interlock, instead of using the interlock
override for the third inputL78[03:23:50] <Cream
Tea> the red bit is when a train has passed
<Cream
Tea> the red bit is when a train has passedL79[03:24:08] <Cream
Tea> If they both go green at the same time, because it thinks
the line is clear
<Cream
Tea> If they both go green at the same time, because it thinks
the line is clearL80[03:24:15] <Cream
Tea> then they will collide
<Cream
Tea> then they will collideL81[03:24:23] <Cream
Tea> because there isn't like a priority system
<Cream
Tea> because there isn't like a priority systemL82[03:24:36] <Cream
Tea> I don't know how to do it
<Cream
Tea> I don't know how to do itL83[03:24:41] <Forecaster> I think you just need to
put a one-way delay on the bottom one
<Forecaster> I think you just need to
put a one-way delay on the bottom oneL84[03:24:56] <Cream
Tea> how do I do tat? >.<
<Cream
Tea> how do I do tat? >.<L85[03:24:59] <Cream
Tea> Just repeaterS?
<Cream
Tea> Just repeaterS?L86[03:25:03] <Forecaster> uh no
<Forecaster> uh noL87[03:25:21] <Forecaster> I mean, a circuit that
delays it turning on-but no delay turning off
<Forecaster> I mean, a circuit that
delays it turning on-but no delay turning offL88[03:25:33] <Cream
Tea> That's a good idea
<Cream
Tea> That's a good ideaL89[03:25:36] <Cream
Tea> don't think I've done that before
<Cream
Tea> don't think I've done that beforeL90[03:25:37] <Cream
Tea> :x
<Cream
Tea> :xL91[03:25:59] <Forecaster> I've designed a
vanilla circuit for that, but I don't remember it off the top
of my head
<Forecaster> I've designed a
vanilla circuit for that, but I don't remember it off the top
of my headL92[03:26:24] <Cream
Tea> I was thinking perhaps I should use the capacitor
block
<Cream
Tea> I was thinking perhaps I should use the capacitor
blockL93[03:26:28] <Cream
Tea> but that only makes it stay
<Cream
Tea> but that only makes it stayL94[03:26:31] <Cream
Tea> it doesn't delay
<Cream
Tea> it doesn't delayL95[03:26:59] <CovertJaguar> they shouldn't
both go green ever hmm
<CovertJaguar> they shouldn't
both go green ever hmmL96[03:27:03] <Cream
Tea> ohh
<Cream
Tea> ohhL97[03:27:08] <Cream
Tea> that's without the interlock
<Cream
Tea> that's without the interlockL98[03:27:18] <Cream
Tea> sorry I should have use the previous screenshot
<Cream
Tea> sorry I should have use the previous screenshotL99[03:27:23] <Cream
Tea> with the interlock it's a worse problem
<Cream
Tea> with the interlock it's a worse problemL100[03:27:53] <Hanakocz> wish we could have some
better system, like factorio has or something...but that would mean
to store somewhere the array of blocks and check on whole
array....rip cpu
<Hanakocz> wish we could have some
better system, like factorio has or something...but that would mean
to store somewhere the array of blocks and check on whole
array....rip cpuL101[03:28:18] <CovertJaguar> well if you are using
the interlock, it should have three lanes, you only have two, that
might fix those issues
<CovertJaguar> well if you are using
the interlock, it should have three lanes, you only have two, that
might fix those issuesL103[03:29:06] <CovertJaguar> you also have an extra
controller/receiver pair on each lane that is mostly
redundant
<CovertJaguar> you also have an extra
controller/receiver pair on each lane that is mostly
redundantL104[03:29:12] <Cream
Tea> That screenshot is with the interlock
<Cream
Tea> That screenshot is with the interlockL105[03:29:24] <Cream
Tea> Because it only lets one aspect through
<Cream
Tea> Because it only lets one aspect throughL107[03:29:43] <Forecaster> this is it
<Forecaster> this is itL108[03:29:48] <CovertJaguar> you also need the
inputs to be coming from detectors that report whether a train is
currently waiting
<CovertJaguar> you also need the
inputs to be coming from detectors that report whether a train is
currently waitingL109[03:30:05] <CovertJaguar> atm your inputs are
always green
<CovertJaguar> atm your inputs are
always greenL110[03:30:07] <Cream
Tea> I had thought about using three interlocks, but then if
it's only going one direction I didn't think it would be
necessary
<Cream
Tea> I had thought about using three interlocks, but then if
it's only going one direction I didn't think it would be
necessaryL111[03:30:26] <Cream
Tea> wait, am I not supposed to link the signals directly to the
interlocks?
<Cream
Tea> wait, am I not supposed to link the signals directly to the
interlocks?L112[03:30:36] <CovertJaguar> you can
<CovertJaguar> you canL113[03:30:46] <CovertJaguar> but your output side
has an extra link
<CovertJaguar> but your output side
has an extra linkL114[03:30:57] <CovertJaguar> you can link directly
to the recievers on the locking tracks
<CovertJaguar> you can link directly
to the recievers on the locking tracksL115[03:31:00] <CovertJaguar> from the interlock
block
<CovertJaguar> from the interlock
blockL116[03:31:30] <Cream
Tea> ah okay
<Cream
Tea> ah okayL118[03:31:58] <Cream
Tea> and if I put a detector under the locking track
<Cream
Tea> and if I put a detector under the locking trackL119[03:32:00] <CovertJaguar> the signal should
probably be hooked to the override receiver on the end
<CovertJaguar> the signal should
probably be hooked to the override receiver on the endL120[03:32:16] <CovertJaguar> but I can't say
that with 100% certaintity
<CovertJaguar> but I can't say
that with 100% certaintityL121[03:32:29] <Cream
Tea> worth a try
<Cream
Tea> worth a tryL122[03:33:15] <CovertJaguar> input should be:
"is a train waiting", and the outputs directly to the
locking track release
<CovertJaguar> input should be:
"is a train waiting", and the outputs directly to the
locking track releaseL123[03:33:20] <CovertJaguar> then it should
work
<CovertJaguar> then it should
workL124[03:33:35] <Cream
Tea> I shall try that
<Cream
Tea> I shall try thatL125[03:33:40] <Cream
Tea> let me check
<Cream
Tea> let me checkL126[03:45:44] <Cream
Tea> Would a token system be more useful?
<Cream
Tea> Would a token system be more useful?L127[03:46:17] <Forecaster> maybe
<Forecaster> maybeL129[04:14:56] <Cream
Tea> Must be tthe most complex layout ever
<Cream
Tea> Must be tthe most complex layout everL130[04:15:00] <Cream
Tea> just for the most simplest task
<Cream
Tea> just for the most simplest taskL131[04:16:41] <Forecaster> that looks like you may
have over-complicated it :P
<Forecaster> that looks like you may
have over-complicated it :PL132[04:19:37] <Cream
Tea> probably
<Cream
Tea> probablyL133[04:20:55] <Cream
Tea> ima try a different way
<Cream
Tea> ima try a different wayL134[04:40:02] <Forecaster> try the delaying
circuit
<Forecaster> try the delaying
circuitL135[05:00:46]
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L137[06:08:37] <Natesky9> Oh!
<Natesky9> Oh!L138[06:08:38] <Natesky9> I know
<Natesky9> I knowL139[06:09:13] <Natesky9> I had to invert the signal
from a train on each "waiting" line
<Natesky9> I had to invert the signal
from a train on each "waiting" lineL140[06:09:20] <Natesky9> exactly because of that
reason
<Natesky9> exactly because of that
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L142[06:16:51] <Resuz>
What are these lasers?
<Resuz>
What are these lasers?L143[06:17:14] <Natesky9> They're the signals as
seen from the trackman's goggles
<Natesky9> They're the signals as
seen from the trackman's gogglesL144[06:17:36] <Natesky9> If you hold the goggles
in-hand, and right click them, it cycles the mode they are in
<Natesky9> If you hold the goggles
in-hand, and right click them, it cycles the mode they are inL145[06:20:19] <Hanakocz> it basically visualizes the
connections of signals
<Hanakocz> it basically visualizes the
connections of signalsL146[06:21:09]
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L147[07:23:42] <Cream
Tea> aaaaaaa
<Cream
Tea> aaaaaaaL148[07:23:51] <Cream
Tea> Okay I'll try the delaying circuit.
<Cream
Tea> Okay I'll try the delaying circuit.L149[07:24:09] <Cream
Tea> Is there not a better way to delay a signal?
<Cream
Tea> Is there not a better way to delay a signal?L150[07:24:19] <Cream
Tea> I guess I have to use redstone unless I use
computercraft
<Cream
Tea> I guess I have to use redstone unless I use
computercraftL151[07:28:55]
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L152[07:31:12] <Forecaster> pretty much
<Forecaster> pretty muchL153[07:31:13] <Forecaster> :P
<Forecaster> :PL154[07:31:39] <Forecaster>
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<Forecaster>
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Railcraft/Railcraft#943 (liach-1.10.2 - 403460c : liach): The build
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L167[12:54:24] <travis-ci> Change view :
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L168[12:54:24] <travis-ci> Build details :
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