L1[00:11:30] 
<Kodos>
Neat, the IE Shaders work on carts
<Kodos>
Neat, the IE Shaders work on cartsL2[00:11:36] <Kodos>
Good thing I can dye trains to match ?
<Kodos>
Good thing I can dye trains to match ?L3[00:19:32] <Kodos> Remind me, does an
electric loco with a low battery trigger a routing
'NeedsRefuel"?
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L5[00:49:13] <Natesky9> I wouldn't see how
that's useful, as the buffer in electric locomotives is piss
poor
<Natesky9> I wouldn't see how
that's useful, as the buffer in electric locomotives is piss
poorL6[00:49:40] <Natesky9> I don't think
there's even a trigger for a low energy cart either
<Natesky9> I don't think
there's even a trigger for a low energy cart eitherL7[00:49:49] <Kodos> Hm, alright
L8[00:49:57] <Natesky9> Wait, there should be
something in the detector block
<Natesky9> Wait, there should be
something in the detector blockL9[00:50:18] <Natesky9> I can't test because,
well, no machines in 10.0.1
<Natesky9> I can't test because,
well, no machines in 10.0.1L10[00:51:38] <Kodos> Indeed
L11[00:59:11] <Natesky9> Anyway, I said earlier
about a new, unique way to make Railcraft that much more
exciting
<Natesky9> Anyway, I said earlier
about a new, unique way to make Railcraft that much more
excitingL12[00:59:31] <Natesky9> I went on several tangents,
of course
<Natesky9> I went on several tangents,
of courseL13[00:59:54] <Natesky9> Hmm, let's see, it all
started when someone mentioned moving steam as if it were a
liquid
<Natesky9> Hmm, let's see, it all
started when someone mentioned moving steam as if it were a
liquidL14[00:59:57] <Natesky9> no
<Natesky9> noL15[00:59:58] <Natesky9> bad
<Natesky9> badL16[01:00:13] <Natesky9> *shakes switch*
<Natesky9> *shakes switch*L17[01:02:35] <Natesky9> If anything, it'd be
way more efficient to transport the water and liquid fuel to the
destination instead, as steam take up 100x more volume (iirc)
<Natesky9> If anything, it'd be
way more efficient to transport the water and liquid fuel to the
destination instead, as steam take up 100x more volume (iirc)L18[01:05:06] <Natesky9> The one thing that would
improve Railcraft as a whole would be to make the mod entirely
playable on it's own. I've generally found that if a mod
bothers to supply the means to complete the content with just the
base game and itself, it's at least a half-decent mod
<Natesky9> The one thing that would
improve Railcraft as a whole would be to make the mod entirely
playable on it's own. I've generally found that if a mod
bothers to supply the means to complete the content with just the
base game and itself, it's at least a half-decent modL19[01:05:49] <Natesky9> Railcraft, to some extent,
kinda does that?
<Natesky9> Railcraft, to some extent,
kinda does that?L20[01:09:03] <Natesky9> however, it's more of
a companion mod to others. Which isn't a bad thing, but it
doesn't incentivize expansion, and therefore, no real need to
expand to remote locations
<Natesky9> however, it's more of
a companion mod to others. Which isn't a bad thing, but it
doesn't incentivize expansion, and therefore, no real need to
expand to remote locationsL21[01:10:12] <Kodos> What do you feel is
missing from it in its current state? (Let's assume 1.7.10 for
now for the sake of feature completeness)
L22[01:10:20] <Kodos> Like, what do you
think makes it not playable on its own
L23[01:11:51] <Natesky9> Well, for one, it relies on
several other mods for resources, and even processing of resources.
You would need at least a handful of mods just to fill that
void
<Natesky9> Well, for one, it relies on
several other mods for resources, and even processing of resources.
You would need at least a handful of mods just to fill that
voidL24[01:12:09] <Natesky9> for comparison, Botania is
fully standalone
<Natesky9> for comparison, Botania is
fully standaloneL25[01:12:27] <Kodos> Wait wait wait
L26[01:12:38] <Kodos> What's wrong
with using a rock crusher to double ores, and automating vanilla
furnaces?
L27[01:13:07] <Kodos> I'm pretty sure
you could just use an advanced unloader to unload coal and dusts
into a furnace
L28[01:13:10] <Kodos> And a loader to grab
the ingots
L29[01:13:26] <Natesky9> (I had that written out,
but I erased it)
<Natesky9> (I had that written out,
but I erased it)L30[01:14:50] <Natesky9> What I mean is that, yes,
while you can automate fuel through coal/coke usage
<Natesky9> What I mean is that, yes,
while you can automate fuel through coal/coke usageL31[01:15:06] <Natesky9> having to even rely on that
is a manual process
<Natesky9> having to even rely on that
is a manual processL32[01:15:46] <Natesky9> even the option to use a
renewable fuel would have to be manual, either through charcoal, or
even creosote for boilers
<Natesky9> even the option to use a
renewable fuel would have to be manual, either through charcoal, or
even creosote for boilersL33[01:17:13] <Natesky9> the "processing of
resources" part was me thinking about
ethanol/fuel/biogas/hootch for fuel
<Natesky9> the "processing of
resources" part was me thinking about
ethanol/fuel/biogas/hootch for fuelL34[01:19:03] <Natesky9> and to be honest, using
lots of loaders is REALLY silly. I tried that once, and, uh. Well,
it's way too much iron
<Natesky9> and to be honest, using
lots of loaders is REALLY silly. I tried that once, and, uh. Well,
it's way too much ironL35[01:20:04] <Natesky9> I opted for retreival
fluiducts/itemducts instead
<Natesky9> I opted for retreival
fluiducts/itemducts insteadL36[01:23:41] <Kodos>
It may be silly, but your statement was that Railcraft
couldn't be played on its own
<Kodos>
It may be silly, but your statement was that Railcraft
couldn't be played on its ownL37[01:23:57] <Kodos>
It's doable though
<Kodos>
It's doable thoughL38[01:24:20] <Kodos>
And frankly, if I had the internet to stream/upload to Youtube,
I'd probably do a Let's play of just Railcraft and
Vanilla
<Kodos>
And frankly, if I had the internet to stream/upload to Youtube,
I'd probably do a Let's play of just Railcraft and
VanillaL39[01:24:31] <Kodos>
Maybe some cosmetic mods like chisel, carpenter's, etc
<Kodos>
Maybe some cosmetic mods like chisel, carpenter's, etcL40[01:24:50] <Kodos>
But gameplay content wise, just railcraft is definitely
playable
<Kodos>
But gameplay content wise, just railcraft is definitely
playableL41[01:26:57] <Natesky9> It's... possible, but
not easilly
<Natesky9> It's... possible, but
not easillyL42[01:27:45] <Natesky9> It would be very limited,
and would require constant maintainence to keep fuel going
<Natesky9> It would be very limited,
and would require constant maintainence to keep fuel goingL43[01:28:42] <Natesky9> My point is that it's
restricted by it's theme to only be a niche application
<Natesky9> My point is that it's
restricted by it's theme to only be a niche applicationL44[01:36:01] <Kodos>
Okay, you've convinced me to do this
<Kodos>
Okay, you've convinced me to do thisL46[01:36:24] <Kodos>
Anything you see there that you think shouldn't be there for a
Railcraft only pack?
<Kodos>
Anything you see there that you think shouldn't be there for a
Railcraft only pack?L47[01:36:31] <Kodos>
I tried to keep it to just RC and cosmetic stuff
<Kodos>
I tried to keep it to just RC and cosmetic stuffL48[01:36:40] <Kodos>
Plus utility stuff like Waila, NEI, etc
<Kodos>
Plus utility stuff like Waila, NEI, etcL49[01:37:30] <Natesky9> The only thing I can see
with that though, is the constant demand of a non-renewable
resource
<Natesky9> The only thing I can see
with that though, is the constant demand of a non-renewable
resourceL50[01:38:03] <Natesky9> You'll either spend
most of your time getting fuel for locomotives/blast furnaces
<Natesky9> You'll either spend
most of your time getting fuel for locomotives/blast furnacesL51[01:38:21] <Natesky9> or all of your steel/fuel
making tunnel bores
<Natesky9> or all of your steel/fuel
making tunnel boresL52[01:38:30] <Natesky9> which in turn, require yet
even more fuel
<Natesky9> which in turn, require yet
even more fuelL53[01:38:58] <Kodos>
Well, honestly, it wouldn't be so bad if there were a liquid
fueled locomotive we could dump creosote into
<Kodos>
Well, honestly, it wouldn't be so bad if there were a liquid
fueled locomotive we could dump creosote intoL54[01:39:25] <Kodos>
Obviously that wouldn't be the only liquid fuel it could take,
but it would be another valid use for all the creo I get
<Kodos>
Obviously that wouldn't be the only liquid fuel it could take,
but it would be another valid use for all the creo I getL55[01:39:57] <Natesky9> Well, the creosote
you'd dump into a boiler for power
<Natesky9> Well, the creosote
you'd dump into a boiler for powerL56[01:41:00] <Natesky9> But even then, that's
only mitigating the power demand, because that's a byproduct
of a non-renewable resource
<Natesky9> But even then, that's
only mitigating the power demand, because that's a byproduct
of a non-renewable resourceL57[01:43:33] <Natesky9> The biggest thing I'm
getting at, is that there is no "full automation" with
Railcraft alone
<Natesky9> The biggest thing I'm
getting at, is that there is no "full automation" with
Railcraft aloneL58[01:44:10] <Natesky9> If there were Forestry,
then yeah. You could automate fuel in several different ways
<Natesky9> If there were Forestry,
then yeah. You could automate fuel in several different waysL59[01:44:33] <Natesky9> If it were EnderIO +
Railcraft, then yeah, full automation
<Natesky9> If it were EnderIO +
Railcraft, then yeah, full automationL60[01:44:49] <Kodos>
Honestly, if I were going to use only one other mod with RC,
It'd be IE
<Kodos>
Honestly, if I were going to use only one other mod with RC,
It'd be IEL61[01:45:02] <Kodos>
Between the two, I could easily automate everything, and have it
look nice to boot
<Kodos>
Between the two, I could easily automate everything, and have it
look nice to bootL62[01:45:07] <Natesky9> Does Immersive have a farm
though?
<Natesky9> Does Immersive have a farm
though?L63[01:45:33] <Natesky9> I haven't looked into
it much
<Natesky9> I haven't looked into
it muchL64[01:45:51] <Kodos>
Not that I know of, but a farm isn't that tedious. Not nearly
as tedious as an automatic mine
<Kodos>
Not that I know of, but a farm isn't that tedious. Not nearly
as tedious as an automatic mineL65[01:45:56] <Kodos>
Which IE does have
<Kodos>
Which IE does haveL66[01:47:04] <Natesky9> Yeah, I saw the Ore
wheel
<Natesky9> Yeah, I saw the Ore
wheelL67[01:47:07] <Natesky9> that thing is awesome
<Natesky9> that thing is awesomeL68[01:47:59] <liach>
IE... I never played that, and I dislike it because of its fancy
textures
<liach>
IE... I never played that, and I dislike it because of its fancy
texturesL69[01:48:14] <Natesky9> That's.... the first
time I've heard that complaint, to be honest
<Natesky9> That's.... the first
time I've heard that complaint, to be honestL70[01:48:50] <Kodos>
Well, to be honest
<Kodos>
Well, to be honestL71[01:49:06] <Kodos>
Not using a mod because of its textures wh en things like resource
packs exist is petty
<Kodos>
Not using a mod because of its textures wh en things like resource
packs exist is pettyL72[01:49:12] <Kodos>
Okay, maybe not petty
<Kodos>
Okay, maybe not pettyL73[01:49:15] <Kodos>
But you get my point
<Kodos>
But you get my pointL74[01:49:18] <CovertJaguar> You are aware that
I'm not a fan of 100% no-maintianence fully automated systems
right?
<CovertJaguar> You are aware that
I'm not a fan of 100% no-maintianence fully automated systems
right?L75[01:49:45] <vedrit> No matter how complicated and
convoluted?
<vedrit> No matter how complicated and
convoluted?L76[01:49:50] <CovertJaguar> that's why you
have to replace Turbine rotors manually
<CovertJaguar> that's why you
have to replace Turbine rotors manuallyL77[01:50:18] <CovertJaguar> because it gives the
player something to _do_ not just something to make then
forget
<CovertJaguar> because it gives the
player something to _do_ not just something to make then
forgetL78[01:50:31] <Natesky9> I can understand not liking
the set-and-forget playstyle
<Natesky9> I can understand not liking
the set-and-forget playstyleL79[01:50:33] <Kodos>
Question; Without IC2 installed, can I use the Steam Turbine if I
have a feeder unit turning it into charge directly adjacent to it,
or will it just not function at all
<Kodos>
Question; Without IC2 installed, can I use the Steam Turbine if I
have a feeder unit turning it into charge directly adjacent to it,
or will it just not function at allL80[01:50:44] <CovertJaguar> @Kodos yes
<CovertJaguar> @Kodos yesL81[01:50:46] <Kodos>
?
<Kodos>
?L82[01:50:55] <CovertJaguar> you don't even
need the feeder
<CovertJaguar> you don't even
need the feederL83[01:51:03] <Kodos>
Oh?
<Kodos>
Oh?L84[01:51:09] <Kodos>
Does it put out charge?
<Kodos>
Does it put out charge?L85[01:51:24] <CovertJaguar> the feeder is for
EU->Charge, the Turbine can directly output Charge
<CovertJaguar> the feeder is for
EU->Charge, the Turbine can directly output ChargeL86[01:51:39] <Kodos>
Oh nice
<Kodos>
Oh niceL87[01:51:46] <Kodos>
That makes this super easy then
<Kodos>
That makes this super easy thenL88[01:51:54] <Kodos>
What's the consumption rate on the turbine
<Kodos>
What's the consumption rate on the turbineL89[01:52:11] <vedrit> What's the most recent
RC version to have functioning track switches and signals?
<vedrit> What's the most recent
RC version to have functioning track switches and signals?L90[01:52:15] ⇨
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L91[01:52:16] <CovertJaguar> steam consumption? a
36HP boilers worth I think
<CovertJaguar> steam consumption? a
36HP boilers worth I thinkL92[01:52:16] <Kodos>
(I could easily check the wiki but I'm already rambling
here)
<Kodos>
(I could easily check the wiki but I'm already rambling
here)L93[01:52:21] <CovertJaguar> er wait no
<CovertJaguar> er wait noL94[01:52:21] <Kodos>
Oh, damn
<Kodos>
Oh, damnL95[01:52:24] <Kodos>
Oh
<Kodos>
OhL96[01:52:25] <Kodos>
lol
<Kodos>
lolL97[01:52:38] <Kodos>
vedrit, MC 1.7.10, version 9.12.2
<Kodos>
vedrit, MC 1.7.10, version 9.12.2L98[01:52:43] <vedrit> Thanks
<vedrit> ThanksL99[01:52:45] <CovertJaguar> 360 steam per
tick
<CovertJaguar> 360 steam per
tickL100[01:52:51] <Kodos>
So, 18HP
<Kodos>
So, 18HPL101[01:52:55] <CovertJaguar> which is some multiple
of a boiler
<CovertJaguar> which is some multiple
of a boilerL102[01:53:00] <Kodos>
Half a maxHP
<Kodos>
Half a maxHPL103[01:53:03] <vedrit> I'm feeling the itch to
make a train network
<vedrit> I'm feeling the itch to
make a train networkL104[01:53:05] <Natesky9> iirc, a turbine takes half
a HP boiler
<Natesky9> iirc, a turbine takes half
a HP boilerL105[01:53:13] <Kodos>
That's fine, I can just put a turbine on either side of a
36HP
<Kodos>
That's fine, I can just put a turbine on either side of a
36HPL107[01:55:19] <liach>
@CovertJaguar How do you think of this? http://vps1.oldguys.eu/jenkins/job/RailCraft-MC1.10.2/
<liach>
@CovertJaguar How do you think of this? http://vps1.oldguys.eu/jenkins/job/RailCraft-MC1.10.2/L108[01:55:44] <liach>
They are so stupid that they don't know Railcraft can only be
built with decomp work space
<liach>
They are so stupid that they don't know Railcraft can only be
built with decomp work spaceL109[01:56:52] <Kodos>
@liach It's not polite to mock someone for not knowing
something
<Kodos>
@liach It's not polite to mock someone for not knowing
somethingL110[01:57:29] <liach>
Sorry for that... It's lucky that those license violators
didn't successfully produce jars
<liach>
Sorry for that... It's lucky that those license violators
didn't successfully produce jarsL111[01:57:34] <CovertJaguar> that voilates my
license
<CovertJaguar> that voilates my
licenseL112[01:59:12] <Kodos> Looks like tterrag
is listed as one of the folks on that Jenkins
L113[01:59:15] <Kodos> Might try poking
him
L114[01:59:24] <Kodos> He may not be part
of it, but he's the easiest to contact
L115[01:59:52] <CovertJaguar> if you are looking at
the user list, it includes anyone who made a commit to any of the
repos
<CovertJaguar> if you are looking at
the user list, it includes anyone who made a commit to any of the
reposL116[01:59:55] <CovertJaguar> I'm on the list
too
<CovertJaguar> I'm on the list
tooL117[02:00:44] <Kodos> Oh
L118[02:00:44] <Kodos> derp
L119[02:02:07] <liach>
That community is like one for all games, not only minecraft
<liach>
That community is like one for all games, not only minecraftL120[02:10:59] <CovertJaguar> some how, you guys have
managed to distract me from getting anything useful done
today!
<CovertJaguar> some how, you guys have
managed to distract me from getting anything useful done
today!L121[02:11:15] <Natesky9> ono
<Natesky9> onoL122[02:11:55] <Kodos> >.>
L123[02:11:58] <Kodos> #notmyfault
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L125[02:13:31] <liach>
@CovertJaguar GitHub now can prevent collaborators to commit on
certain branches, and to request approved review for all pull
requests, done in branch protection
<liach>
@CovertJaguar GitHub now can prevent collaborators to commit on
certain branches, and to request approved review for all pull
requests, done in branch protectionL126[02:13:46] <liach>
I mean I really want to manage issues...
<liach>
I mean I really want to manage issues...L128[02:14:19] <CovertJaguar> we have a spike maul
recipe!
<CovertJaguar> we have a spike maul
recipe!L129[02:14:22] <Natesky9> yay
<Natesky9> yayL130[02:14:50] <liach>
rebars?
<liach>
rebars?L131[02:15:10] <liach>
Too expensive ?
<liach>
Too expensive ?L132[02:15:13] <Natesky9> Ooh, I have a request
<Natesky9> Ooh, I have a requestL133[02:15:20] <CovertJaguar> @liach one of things
that managed to distract me today was investigating the creation of
an organization for exactly that reason
<CovertJaguar> @liach one of things
that managed to distract me today was investigating the creation of
an organization for exactly that reasonL134[02:15:49] <Kodos>
How the hell is rebar expensive
<Kodos>
How the hell is rebar expensiveL135[02:15:56] <CovertJaguar> its not rebar
<CovertJaguar> its not rebarL136[02:15:59] <CovertJaguar> it just a stick
<CovertJaguar> it just a stickL137[02:16:12] <liach>
Well, after all, GitHub is a good place where people show their
friendly side and be happy together
<liach>
Well, after all, GitHub is a good place where people show their
friendly side and be happy togetherL138[02:16:13] <Kodos>
Point still stands
<Kodos>
Point still standsL139[02:16:16] <Natesky9> Can the tooltip for the
spike maul have the word "hammer" in it?
<Natesky9> Can the tooltip for the
spike maul have the word "hammer" in it?L140[02:16:20] <liach>
Iron Block!
<liach>
Iron Block!L141[02:16:29] <CovertJaguar> a Maul is a
hammer
<CovertJaguar> a Maul is a
hammerL142[02:16:52] <Natesky9> well yes, but having hammer
at least in the tooltip will make it nei searchable
<Natesky9> well yes, but having hammer
at least in the tooltip will make it nei searchableL143[02:17:03] <liach>
just search maul
<liach>
just search maulL144[02:17:19] <Natesky9> well, yes, but not everyone
is going to remember that
<Natesky9> well, yes, but not everyone
is going to remember thatL145[02:17:28] <MrConductor> *
CovertJaguar adds "spike driver" to be perverse
L146[02:17:32] <Natesky9> That's the name of the
dude with the red face
<Natesky9> That's the name of the
dude with the red faceL147[02:17:47] <Natesky9> in that space battle
vidya
<Natesky9> in that space battle
vidyaL148[02:17:56] <Natesky9> the one where the dude
kisses his sister
<Natesky9> the one where the dude
kisses his sisterL149[02:18:01] <Natesky9> (bad jokes)
<Natesky9> (bad jokes)L150[02:18:48] <CovertJaguar> it has track, and
switch, and junction in the tooltip
<CovertJaguar> it has track, and
switch, and junction in the tooltipL151[02:18:53] <CovertJaguar> I don't think
finding it will be hard
<CovertJaguar> I don't think
finding it will be hardL152[02:19:33] <Natesky9> Oh, here's a question:
Will switching between the different types be free?
<Natesky9> Oh, here's a question:
Will switching between the different types be free?L153[02:20:22] <Natesky9> (besides using
durability)
<Natesky9> (besides using
durability)L154[02:21:30] <liach>
Vanilla tools lose 2 durability when hitting mobs, but why does the
maul lose 3?
<liach>
Vanilla tools lose 2 durability when hitting mobs, but why does the
maul lose 3?L155[02:21:59] <CovertJaguar> because it can one hit
kill anything with the wrecking enchantment
<CovertJaguar> because it can one hit
kill anything with the wrecking enchantmentL156[02:22:17] <Kodos>
Unbreaking X, wrecking X ?
<Kodos>
Unbreaking X, wrecking X ?L157[02:22:37] <liach>
Just use mending is the best ?
<liach>
Just use mending is the best ?L158[02:22:43] <CovertJaguar> it has 14 base
damange
<CovertJaguar> it has 14 base
damangeL159[02:22:47] <vedrit> So it be... Wrecking IV
days?
<vedrit> So it be... Wrecking IV
days?L160[02:22:51] <vedrit> Eh? Eh?
<vedrit> Eh? Eh?L161[02:23:05] <CovertJaguar> super slow though
<CovertJaguar> super slow thoughL162[02:23:08] <CovertJaguar> so don't
miss
<CovertJaguar> so don't
missL163[02:23:44] <Natesky9> Oh sweet
<Natesky9> Oh sweetL164[02:23:57] <Natesky9> I haven't actually
seen many weapons use the new attack speed modifiers
<Natesky9> I haven't actually
seen many weapons use the new attack speed modifiersL165[02:23:59] <liach>
Vanilla sharpness' damage is reduced
<liach>
Vanilla sharpness' damage is reducedL166[02:24:09] <liach>
How about wrecking?
<liach>
How about wrecking?L167[02:24:14] <CovertJaguar> reduced?
<CovertJaguar> reduced?L168[02:24:19] <CovertJaguar> they nerfed it?
<CovertJaguar> they nerfed it?L170[02:25:08] <liach>
Before it was like half a heart each level, like in 1.7
<liach>
Before it was like half a heart each level, like in 1.7L171[02:25:13] <liach>
and mojang nerfed it
<liach>
and mojang nerfed itL172[02:25:43] <Natesky9> to be fair, it was *the*
serration of minecraft
<Natesky9> to be fair, it was *the*
serration of minecraftL173[02:25:47] <Natesky9> absolutely necessary
<Natesky9> absolutely necessaryL175[02:26:18] <CovertJaguar> its probably massively
OP then
<CovertJaguar> its probably massively
OP thenL176[02:26:21] <Kodos>
I wouldn't call it absolutely necessary. I liked to use
different enchants depending on what I was doing
<Kodos>
I wouldn't call it absolutely necessary. I liked to use
different enchants depending on what I was doingL177[02:26:25] <CovertJaguar> 1.5 damage per
level
<CovertJaguar> 1.5 damage per
levelL178[02:26:43] <Kodos>
Smite is more OP than sharpness, but it only affects ZP, zombs, and
skellies
<Kodos>
Smite is more OP than sharpness, but it only affects ZP, zombs, and
skelliesL179[02:27:28] <Natesky9> you know what I'm
really disappointed in
<Natesky9> you know what I'm
really disappointed inL180[02:27:35] <Natesky9> like, excessively
disappointed
<Natesky9> like, excessively
disappointedL181[02:27:58] <CovertJaguar> I should probably
reduce that to 0.5 per level
<CovertJaguar> I should probably
reduce that to 0.5 per levelL182[02:28:24] <CovertJaguar> these are supposed to
be tools after all, not the best weapons in the game
<CovertJaguar> these are supposed to
be tools after all, not the best weapons in the gameL183[02:28:39] <liach>
Agree, reduce but add ability to break shields once forge hooks are
added
<liach>
Agree, reduce but add ability to break shields once forge hooks are
addedL184[02:28:44] <Natesky9> Poison tipped arrows. Tell
me, how many enemies are affected by poison arrows
<Natesky9> Poison tipped arrows. Tell
me, how many enemies are affected by poison arrowsL185[02:28:53] <CovertJaguar> pigs?
<CovertJaguar> pigs?L186[02:28:54] <liach>
Try in creative
<liach>
Try in creativeL187[02:29:05] <Natesky9> Oh, I know the answer
<Natesky9> Oh, I know the answerL188[02:29:11] <CovertJaguar> Implosion is 3 damage
per level
<CovertJaguar> Implosion is 3 damage
per levelL189[02:29:17] <CovertJaguar> but only on
Creepers
<CovertJaguar> but only on
CreepersL190[02:29:31] <Natesky9> just tell me, how useful do
you think the top tier potion-tipped damage arrows are
<Natesky9> just tell me, how useful do
you think the top tier potion-tipped damage arrows areL191[02:29:54] <Kodos>
Instant Damage II arrows...
<Kodos>
Instant Damage II arrows...L192[02:29:55] <Kodos>
Hm
<Kodos>
HmL193[02:30:27] <Natesky9> list of things that the
damage tipped arrows *doesn't* affect:
<Natesky9> list of things that the
damage tipped arrows *doesn't* affect:L194[02:30:27] <Natesky9> Skeletons
<Natesky9> SkeletonsL195[02:30:27] <Natesky9> Zombies
<Natesky9> ZombiesL196[02:30:27] <Natesky9> Creepers
<Natesky9> CreepersL197[02:30:28] <Natesky9> Spiders
<Natesky9> SpidersL198[02:30:28] <Natesky9> Anything dead
<Natesky9> Anything deadL199[02:30:39] <liach>
use healing arrows for them
<liach>
use healing arrows for themL200[02:30:43] <Kodos>
^
<Kodos>
^L201[02:30:48] <Kodos>
Final Fantasy Logic
<Kodos>
Final Fantasy LogicL202[02:30:48] <liach>
tipped arrows are too expensive
<liach>
tipped arrows are too expensiveL203[02:30:57] <liach>
need dragon breath
<liach>
need dragon breathL204[02:31:01] <Natesky9> The problem with that is
that those require gold
<Natesky9> The problem with that is
that those require goldL205[02:31:06] <liach>
gold?
<liach>
gold?L206[02:31:16] <liach>
Gold are cheap, pigmen tower
<liach>
Gold are cheap, pigmen towerL207[02:31:26] <Natesky9> nearly an ingot per 24
arros
<Natesky9> nearly an ingot per 24
arrosL208[02:31:28] <Natesky9> nearly an ingot per 24
arrows
<Natesky9> nearly an ingot per 24
arrowsL209[02:31:35] <liach>
Still cheap
<liach>
Still cheapL210[02:31:43] <liach>
Compared to rc tracks
<liach>
Compared to rc tracksL211[02:31:45] <Natesky9> Not when every other mod
demands gold
<Natesky9> Not when every other mod
demands goldL212[02:31:57] <Natesky9> yet another reason not to
use gold
<Natesky9> yet another reason not to
use goldL213[02:32:03] <liach>
use tech mod for gold
<liach>
use tech mod for goldL214[02:32:04] <Natesky9> too valuable
<Natesky9> too valuableL215[02:32:23] <liach>
raid ocean monuments
<liach>
raid ocean monumentsL216[02:34:06] <Natesky9> at the point that
you're geared/find an ocean monument, you don't need the
gold
<Natesky9> at the point that
you're geared/find an ocean monument, you don't need the
goldL217[02:34:42] <Natesky9> and at that point, arrows
get phased out for things more effective
<Natesky9> and at that point, arrows
get phased out for things more effectiveL218[02:35:07] <liach>
why do you need effect arrows anyway
<liach>
why do you need effect arrows anywayL219[02:35:26] <Natesky9> I've always wanted
potions to be more viable
<Natesky9> I've always wanted
potions to be more viableL220[02:35:42] <liach>
Good, ench damages are nerfed
<liach>
Good, ench damages are nerfedL221[02:35:42] <Natesky9> I was so excited when they
gave potions some attention
<Natesky9> I was so excited when they
gave potions some attentionL222[02:35:50] <Natesky9> then got really
disappointed when they still sucked
<Natesky9> then got really
disappointed when they still suckedL223[02:37:37] <Natesky9> In my opinion, the
effectiveness of something should reflect the complexity in making
it
<Natesky9> In my opinion, the
effectiveness of something should reflect the complexity in making
itL224[02:40:06]
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L225[02:40:16] <Natesky9> I mean, a 7 step potion
should be at least decent
<Natesky9> I mean, a 7 step potion
should be at least decentL226[02:40:42] <Kodos>
7?
<Kodos>
7?L227[02:40:46] <liach>
Branch protection like this can prevent bad pushes @CovertJaguar
<:railcraft:283729771219648512>
<liach>
Branch protection like this can prevent bad pushes @CovertJaguar
<:railcraft:283729771219648512>L228[02:40:47] <liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/287142247055491072/unknown.png
<liach>
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/287142247055491072/unknown.pngL229[02:40:51] <Kodos>
The lingering ones are still what, 4?
<Kodos>
The lingering ones are still what, 4?L230[02:40:54] <CovertJaguar> way ahead of you
<CovertJaguar> way ahead of youL231[02:41:10] <liach>
Thanks!
<liach>
Thanks!L232[02:41:28] <liach>
The sweetest day of my life!
<liach>
The sweetest day of my life!L233[02:41:43] <CovertJaguar> I'll continue to
think about converting to an organization, but this will do for now
I think
<CovertJaguar> I'll continue to
think about converting to an organization, but this will do for now
I thinkL234[02:42:04] <Natesky9> nether wart, spider eye,
fermented spider eye, glowstone, gunpowder, dragon's breath,
oh, and the arrow crafting. But you get what I mean. It's the
first form of "stackable" potion, but it's... pretty
bad
<Natesky9> nether wart, spider eye,
fermented spider eye, glowstone, gunpowder, dragon's breath,
oh, and the arrow crafting. But you get what I mean. It's the
first form of "stackable" potion, but it's... pretty
badL235[02:43:12] <Natesky9> despite requiring 3
different worlds, drops from 4 different mobs, three unique plants,
and 2 minerals
<Natesky9> despite requiring 3
different worlds, drops from 4 different mobs, three unique plants,
and 2 mineralsL236[02:44:01] <Natesky9> Sorry, potions are just
something that I'm intensely passionate about
<Natesky9> Sorry, potions are just
something that I'm intensely passionate aboutL237[02:44:27] <liach>
Are chests easy to implement? They should be
<liach>
Are chests easy to implement? They should beL238[02:44:35] <Natesky9> despite requiring 3
different worlds, drops from 4 different mobs, three unique plants,
2 minerals, and THE BREATH OF A DRAGON
<Natesky9> despite requiring 3
different worlds, drops from 4 different mobs, three unique plants,
2 minerals, and THE BREATH OF A DRAGONL239[02:45:09] <Natesky9> Anyway, I'm off to
bed
<Natesky9> Anyway, I'm off to
bedL240[02:45:14] <Natesky9> 'Night guys
<Natesky9> 'Night guysL241[02:46:21] <CovertJaguar> chests are pretty easy,
almost all machines, at their heart, are chests
<CovertJaguar> chests are pretty easy,
almost all machines, at their heart, are chestsL242[02:46:30] <Kodos>
I'm a bit sad that SCM hasn't been updated in some time,
though I know ama has been busy with school
<Kodos>
I'm a bit sad that SCM hasn't been updated in some time,
though I know ama has been busy with schoolL243[02:46:33] <CovertJaguar> the rendering is bit
different though if you want the chest look
<CovertJaguar> the rendering is bit
different though if you want the chest lookL244[03:28:12] <liach>
Oh, and I can desert my fork-I will just use the main repo ?
<liach>
Oh, and I can desert my fork-I will just use the main repo ?L245[03:34:08] <CovertJaguar> yay! more dead branches
;)
<CovertJaguar> yay! more dead branches
;)L246[03:34:23] <CovertJaguar> I need to figure out
what I still need and delete the old stuff
<CovertJaguar> I need to figure out
what I still need and delete the old stuffL247[03:35:22] <CovertJaguar> I need to figure out
Travis still
<CovertJaguar> I need to figure out
Travis stillL248[03:39:50] ⇦
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L250[03:47:43] <CovertJaguar> well...that was a bust:
:compileJavaAn exception has occurred in the compiler (1.8.0_31).
Please file a bug at the Java Developer Connection (http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport) after
checking the Bug Parade for duplicates. Include your program and
the following diagnostic in your report. Thank you.
<CovertJaguar> well...that was a bust:
:compileJavaAn exception has occurred in the compiler (1.8.0_31).
Please file a bug at the Java Developer Connection (http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport) after
checking the Bug Parade for duplicates. Include your program and
the following diagnostic in your report. Thank you.L251[03:48:09] <CovertJaguar>
java.lang.NullPointerException
<CovertJaguar>
java.lang.NullPointerExceptionL252[03:48:09] <CovertJaguar> at
com.sun.tools.javac.code.Types.isConvertible(Types.java:290)
<CovertJaguar> at
com.sun.tools.javac.code.Types.isConvertible(Types.java:290)L253[03:49:12] <CovertJaguar> I think I'll
ignore that until I'm ready to make my own build and see if it
works there
<CovertJaguar> I think I'll
ignore that until I'm ready to make my own build and see if it
works thereL254[03:49:57] <CovertJaguar> I wonder if it set up
the git submodules
<CovertJaguar> I wonder if it set up
the git submodulesL255[03:50:14] <CovertJaguar> oh wait, yes it
did
<CovertJaguar> oh wait, yes it
didL256[03:50:55] <CovertJaguar> I've never seen
javac throw an exception before
<CovertJaguar> I've never seen
javac throw an exception beforeL257[03:54:47] ⇦
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L258[03:56:45] <CovertJaguar> huh...appears to be a
bug in the compiler related to the new lamba code
<CovertJaguar> huh...appears to be a
bug in the compiler related to the new lamba codeL259[04:09:03] <CovertJaguar> right...so by default
Travis uses an ancient build of java, awesome
<CovertJaguar> right...so by default
Travis uses an ancient build of java, awesomeL260[04:22:00] <CovertJaguar> well that is fixed, but
apparently I need to update Forge on my dev env
<CovertJaguar> well that is fixed, but
apparently I need to update Forge on my dev envL261[04:22:22] <CovertJaguar> there are few missing
expection throws on some methods
<CovertJaguar> there are few missing
expection throws on some methodsL262[04:40:01] <CovertJaguar> or it could just be
broken
<CovertJaguar> or it could just be
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L265[05:02:04] <CovertJaguar> well it seems to
compile now, but Travis just sits there doing nothing at the
end
<CovertJaguar> well it seems to
compile now, but Travis just sits there doing nothing at the
endL266[05:03:51] <CovertJaguar> whatever, it will
finish or it won't I'm going to bed
<CovertJaguar> whatever, it will
finish or it won't I'm going to bedL267[05:05:36] <CovertJaguar> oh threatening always
works apparently, it finished, successfully
<CovertJaguar> oh threatening always
works apparently, it finished, successfullyL268[05:59:47] <GeneralCamo> Whoever said to use a
rock crusher to double ores: You can't do that in vanilla
Railcraft
<GeneralCamo> Whoever said to use a
rock crusher to double ores: You can't do that in vanilla
RailcraftL269[06:00:08] <GeneralCamo> There was an addon to
allow that, but it hasn't been maintained since 1.6.4 (It was
intended for TPPI's use mainly)
<GeneralCamo> There was an addon to
allow that, but it hasn't been maintained since 1.6.4 (It was
intended for TPPI's use mainly)L270[06:01:01] <Kodos> Interesting, I
wasn't aware that you couldn't
L271[06:01:35] <GeneralCamo> I wouldn't mind
Railcraft becoming an industrial themed mod
<GeneralCamo> I wouldn't mind
Railcraft becoming an industrial themed modL272[06:01:56] <GeneralCamo> I'm already
thinking of ideas for an improved energy system for Railcraft
<GeneralCamo> I'm already
thinking of ideas for an improved energy system for RailcraftL273[06:02:54] <GeneralCamo> Involving an expansion
of the Steam mechanics
<GeneralCamo> Involving an expansion
of the Steam mechanicsL274[06:11:23]
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L275[06:11:31] <Kodos> Such as?
L276[06:14:13] <GeneralCamo> More realistic steam
mechanics. Semi-based on IC2, but even more indepth than that
<GeneralCamo> More realistic steam
mechanics. Semi-based on IC2, but even more indepth than thatL277[06:14:23] <GeneralCamo> More realistic steam
mechanics. Semi-based on IC2_Exp, but even more indepth than
that
<GeneralCamo> More realistic steam
mechanics. Semi-based on IC2_Exp, but even more indepth than
thatL278[06:15:32] <GeneralCamo> Water --> Distilled
Water --> Low Pressure Boiler --> Superheater (New High
Pressure Boiler) --> Turbines & Machinery
<GeneralCamo> Water --> Distilled
Water --> Low Pressure Boiler --> Superheater (New High
Pressure Boiler) --> Turbines & MachineryL279[06:15:33] <GeneralCamo> Water --> Distilled
Water --> Low Pressure Boiler --> Heating & Traps
<GeneralCamo> Water --> Distilled
Water --> Low Pressure Boiler --> Heating & TrapsL280[06:17:09] <Kodos>
That seems a bit overly complex, and slightly convoluted
<Kodos>
That seems a bit overly complex, and slightly convolutedL281[06:17:16] <GeneralCamo> Meh not really
<GeneralCamo> Meh not reallyL282[06:17:21] <Kodos>
Or wait, is that two separate lines?
<Kodos>
Or wait, is that two separate lines?L283[06:17:27] <GeneralCamo> Two seperate lines
<GeneralCamo> Two seperate linesL284[06:17:55] <GeneralCamo> Saturated steam can be
put to use in your ovens, or you can "upgrade" it to
Superheated for additional power generation.
<GeneralCamo> Saturated steam can be
put to use in your ovens, or you can "upgrade" it to
Superheated for additional power generation.L285[06:18:31] <GeneralCamo> Saturated Steam can be
used in Turbines, but it would damage them faster. And you
wouldn't get the efficiency of Superheated Steam
<GeneralCamo> Saturated Steam can be
used in Turbines, but it would damage them faster. And you
wouldn't get the efficiency of Superheated SteamL286[06:20:19] <GeneralCamo> Distilled Water would
serve to reduce damage of boilers and steam locomotives
<GeneralCamo> Distilled Water would
serve to reduce damage of boilers and steam locomotivesL287[06:20:35] <GeneralCamo> From deposits found in
hard water
<GeneralCamo> From deposits found in
hard waterL288[06:24:08] <Kodos> So basically,
you're just adding a reason to use a specific type of boiler,
but in the form of changing the HP machine name
L289[06:25:26] <GeneralCamo> A reason to use both
types of boilers
<GeneralCamo> A reason to use both
types of boilersL290[06:25:39] <GeneralCamo> I mean, who uses Low
Pressure Boilers once they are flowing in fuel?
<GeneralCamo> I mean, who uses Low
Pressure Boilers once they are flowing in fuel?L291[06:26:22] <GeneralCamo> The difference between
Low Pressure and High Pressure is a pure numbers game, which
isn't exactly true to Real Life either
<GeneralCamo> The difference between
Low Pressure and High Pressure is a pure numbers game, which
isn't exactly true to Real Life eitherL292[06:34:15] <Kodos> But why would you
use HP for things like the Steam Oven, even in current RC?
L293[06:36:47] <GeneralCamo> You probably
wouldn't
<GeneralCamo> You probably
wouldn'tL294[06:37:01] <GeneralCamo> (And still wouldn't
under this system. Superheated steam is not a great conductor of
heat)
<GeneralCamo> (And still wouldn't
under this system. Superheated steam is not a great conductor of
heat)L295[06:46:53] <Kodos>
Right but that's my point, what's different about your
suggestion compared to w hat we have now
<Kodos>
Right but that's my point, what's different about your
suggestion compared to w hat we have nowL296[07:00:38] ⇦
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L298[07:26:38] <Natesky9> Honestly, I think the steam
system is in a good place
<Natesky9> Honestly, I think the steam
system is in a good placeL299[07:28:24]
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L300[07:31:04] <Natesky9> It's simple enough to
not need a PhD, but expandable enough to be popular over other
power generation methods
<Natesky9> It's simple enough to
not need a PhD, but expandable enough to be popular over other
power generation methodsL301[07:34:49] <Kodos>
Not to mention the steam engines are mesmerizing at 3 AM
<Kodos>
Not to mention the steam engines are mesmerizing at 3 AML302[07:36:29] <Natesky9> Absolutely. Especially when
you flick them on in sequence, and they're doing a sine
wave
<Natesky9> Absolutely. Especially when
you flick them on in sequence, and they're doing a sine
waveL303[07:37:10] <Natesky9> That's one thing I
hope never changes, is the model for steam engines
<Natesky9> That's one thing I
hope never changes, is the model for steam enginesL304[07:38:00] <Natesky9> Thermal expansion may have
opted for a non-animated dynamo, but that was their mistake
<Natesky9> Thermal expansion may have
opted for a non-animated dynamo, but that was their mistakeL305[07:38:07] <Kodos>
Indeed
<Kodos>
IndeedL306[07:38:10] <Kodos>
Hoping TE5 has anims
<Kodos>
Hoping TE5 has animsL307[07:38:27] <Kodos>
Though I doubt i"ll use TE5 either way
<Kodos>
Though I doubt i"ll use TE5 either wayL308[07:38:54] <Natesky9> I do like what they're
doing with the elemental resources
<Natesky9> I do like what they're
doing with the elemental resourcesL309[07:39:40] <Natesky9> I mean, I think it's
fricking awesome the way they're using materials
<Natesky9> I mean, I think it's
fricking awesome the way they're using materialsL310[07:41:17] <Natesky9> I'm absolutely in love
with their lore/theme
<Natesky9> I'm absolutely in love
with their lore/themeL311[07:41:37] <Natesky9> Have you read it?
<Natesky9> Have you read it?L312[07:42:07] <Kodos>
No
<Kodos>
NoL313[07:42:18] <Kodos>
Tbqh, I don't really read much into lore for a lot of
stuff
<Kodos>
Tbqh, I don't really read much into lore for a lot of
stuffL314[07:47:26] <Natesky9> I mean, it's
absolutely worth a read
<Natesky9> I mean, it's
absolutely worth a readL315[07:48:15] <GeneralCamo> I did want to expand
some animation stuff, like the Steam Turbine
<GeneralCamo> I did want to expand
some animation stuff, like the Steam TurbineL316[07:48:45] <Natesky9> Yeah, that could do for a
visual update
<Natesky9> Yeah, that could do for a
visual updateL317[07:48:58] <GeneralCamo> Agreed that the RF
Engines in Railcraft look good
<GeneralCamo> Agreed that the RF
Engines in Railcraft look goodL318[07:49:13] <GeneralCamo> IMO: They should be
moved to the RF module
<GeneralCamo> IMO: They should be
moved to the RF moduleL319[07:49:40] <GeneralCamo> Furthermore that module
should just use Forge Energy when the move to 1.11 is done
<GeneralCamo> Furthermore that module
should just use Forge Energy when the move to 1.11 is doneL320[07:49:58] <GeneralCamo> As opposed to removing
the things
<GeneralCamo> As opposed to removing
the thingsL321[07:50:25] <Natesky9> Here's a thought. How
difficult would it be to make a 3d model for rails?
<Natesky9> Here's a thought. How
difficult would it be to make a 3d model for rails?L322[07:51:06] <Kodos>
To make the model? Not hard. Implementing it? Not much harder, I
would imagine. I dunno if it would end up being laggy though
<Kodos>
To make the model? Not hard. Implementing it? Not much harder, I
would imagine. I dunno if it would end up being laggy thoughL323[07:51:53] <GeneralCamo> That's probably a
question for CJ
<GeneralCamo> That's probably a
question for CJL324[07:54:58] <LuigiHutch> CJ said is is
planning to move away from rf/forge energy btw
L325[07:55:35] <Kodos>
Didn't he mention wanting everything to just run off steam
directly
<Kodos>
Didn't he mention wanting everything to just run off steam
directlyL326[07:56:01] <Kodos>
Though, that would basically mean liquid energy
<Kodos>
Though, that would basically mean liquid energyL327[08:13:56] <Natesky9> The Gregtech bronze age
does that
<Natesky9> The Gregtech bronze age
does thatL328[08:14:03] <Natesky9> Rather well, might I
add
<Natesky9> Rather well, might I
addL329[08:35:27] <GeneralCamo> Luigi: I'm
aware
<GeneralCamo> Luigi: I'm
awareL330[08:35:52] <GeneralCamo> Kodos: I suggested
instead converting to Railcraft Charge
<GeneralCamo> Kodos: I suggested
instead converting to Railcraft ChargeL331[08:45:28] ⇦
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L342[11:56:16] <Natesky9> The problem with *just*
using Railcraft charge is that there would not be compatibility
with rf accepting machines
<Natesky9> The problem with *just*
using Railcraft charge is that there would not be compatibility
with rf accepting machinesL343[12:01:12] <Natesky9> And one of the biggest
contenders of the entire mod *is* the energy system. The massive
multiblock powerhouse
<Natesky9> And one of the biggest
contenders of the entire mod *is* the energy system. The massive
multiblock powerhouseL344[12:01:18] <Natesky9> Also the massive
tanks
<Natesky9> Also the massive
tanksL345[12:01:54] <Natesky9> Those are the selling
points for this mod, for the people who wouldn't otherwise use
the mods
<Natesky9> Those are the selling
points for this mod, for the people who wouldn't otherwise use
the modsL346[12:02:02] <Natesky9> Those are the selling
points for this mod, for the people who wouldn't otherwise use
the mod
<Natesky9> Those are the selling
points for this mod, for the people who wouldn't otherwise use
the modL347[12:02:26] <Forecaster> steam engines
make RF
L348[12:02:31] <Forecaster> you can turn
RF into charge
L349[12:02:35] <Forecaster> I don't
see the problem
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L351[12:03:57] <Natesky9> But if the mod were to
shift from RF power to pure RC charge, as CJ had planned
<Natesky9> But if the mod were to
shift from RF power to pure RC charge, as CJ had plannedL352[12:04:07] <Natesky9> That might not be the
case
<Natesky9> That might not be the
caseL353[12:04:15] <Natesky9> Which would be very
unfortunate
<Natesky9> Which would be very
unfortunateL354[12:04:19] <Forecaster> ...when was
that planned?
L355[12:04:57] <Natesky9> "<LuigiHutch> CJ
said is is planning to move away from rf/forge energy
btw"
<Natesky9> "<LuigiHutch> CJ
said is is planning to move away from rf/forge energy
btw"L356[12:05:56] <Forecaster> okay
L357[12:06:26] <Forecaster> I dunno
L358[12:08:21] <LuigiHutch>
'<CovertJaguar> well I do plan to do some reworking of
the power system to move away from RF or FE or whatever they are
calling it these days'
L359[12:09:45] <Forecaster> that seems
like a shame but oh well
L360[12:22:36] <vedrit> I don't know what the
issue with RF is
<vedrit> I don't know what the
issue with RF isL361[12:22:45] <vedrit> Why move away from it?
<vedrit> Why move away from it?L362[12:25:11] <LuigiHutch> its just
become an arms race in who can produce the highest number imo
L363[12:28:32] <Natesky9> Well, I disagree, to an
extent. There have been attempts between the major authors to re
balance rf around typical values of charcoal
<Natesky9> Well, I disagree, to an
extent. There have been attempts between the major authors to re
balance rf around typical values of charcoalL364[12:29:06] <Natesky9> Now, mods like extra
utilities and big reactors... Don't want to
<Natesky9> Now, mods like extra
utilities and big reactors... Don't want toL365[12:29:48] <Natesky9> In that regards, yes, they
just do silly numbers because they can
<Natesky9> In that regards, yes, they
just do silly numbers because they canL366[12:30:19] <LuigiHutch> rly? https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/4pak8h/i_compared_all_coal_generators/
L367[12:32:34] <Natesky9> Some of those have a good
reason for being good
<Natesky9> Some of those have a good
reason for being goodL368[12:35:40] ***
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L369[12:36:01] <Natesky9> The top three are because
of the crazy amount of augments/infuse upgrade stuff. That's
reasonable, seeing as it means they won't be creeped out with
better generators too quickly
<Natesky9> The top three are because
of the crazy amount of augments/infuse upgrade stuff. That's
reasonable, seeing as it means they won't be creeped out with
better generators too quicklyL370[12:37:15] <LuigiHutch> the fact that
mods have to have crazy upgrades to avoid being creeped out is
whats wrong with rf imo
L371[12:38:07] <Natesky9> More steps = more
power
<Natesky9> More steps = more
powerL372[12:38:29] <Natesky9> And the upgrades
aren't really the problem
<Natesky9> And the upgrades
aren't really the problemL373[12:38:54] <Natesky9> If anything, they help by
allowing flexibility/tiering up machines
<Natesky9> If anything, they help by
allowing flexibility/tiering up machinesL374[12:39:53] <Natesky9> I'd rather have
something that can be cheap, but upgradable than have to make
several for the same effect
<Natesky9> I'd rather have
something that can be cheap, but upgradable than have to make
several for the same effectL375[12:41:11] <LuigiHutch> its more about
'avoid being creeped out' means that its just an arms
race in numbers rather than providing a better gameplay
experience
L376[12:44:07] <Natesky9> You will always have
competition between mods. That's just an unavoidable fact. But
blaming the power system because of an overpowered machine is like
blaming Ford for getting hit by a truck
<Natesky9> You will always have
competition between mods. That's just an unavoidable fact. But
blaming the power system because of an overpowered machine is like
blaming Ford for getting hit by a truckL377[12:49:55] <LuigiHutch> but TE and rf
set the precedent of producing a higher number is better than
producing a lower number. look at when te moved to rf and made
their dynamos 8x more powerful than BC's Stirling engine just
because. that trend has just continued ever since
L378[12:54:58] <Natesky9> 1 MJ = 10 RF iirc
<Natesky9> 1 MJ = 10 RF iircL379[13:00:47] <SkySom> I don't recall it being
that much.
<SkySom> I don't recall it being
that much.L380[13:00:55] <SkySom> I thought it was 1:4 or
1:8
<SkySom> I thought it was 1:4 or
1:8L381[13:01:06] <SkySom> I though EU:RF was 1:10
<SkySom> I though EU:RF was 1:10L382[13:04:13] <Natesky9> Something like that
<Natesky9> Something like thatL383[13:04:59] ⇦
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L389[14:40:37] <Kodos>
I would say ignore all the other mods, and make RC awesome again
?
<Kodos>
I would say ignore all the other mods, and make RC awesome again
?L390[14:41:09] <bballboy2002>
<:railcraft:283729771219648512>
<bballboy2002>
<:railcraft:283729771219648512>L391[14:42:45] <Natesky9> I might say that a
multiblock "turbine" steam generator would be nice
<Natesky9> I might say that a
multiblock "turbine" steam generator would be niceL392[14:42:56] <Natesky9> wait, what am I thinking,
there is one
<Natesky9> wait, what am I thinking,
there is oneL393[14:43:20] <Natesky9> Does that output *just* EU,
or does it do charge/EU
<Natesky9> Does that output *just* EU,
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L397[14:50:10] <Kodos>
Charge, too
<Kodos>
Charge, tooL398[14:50:16] <Kodos>
CJ mentioned that last night
<Kodos>
CJ mentioned that last nightL399[14:50:30] <bballboy2002> i dont think it outputs
EU at all
<bballboy2002> i dont think it outputs
EU at allL400[14:50:44] <Kodos>
It does with IC2 installed
<Kodos>
It does with IC2 installedL401[14:50:55] <Kodos>
But from what I understand, you can draw charge from it too
<Kodos>
But from what I understand, you can draw charge from it tooL402[14:50:58] <bballboy2002> k
<bballboy2002> kL403[15:05:02] ⇦
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L409[15:32:52] <Natesky9> Well, to be honest,
Immersive engineering is what I expected Railcraft to become
<Natesky9> Well, to be honest,
Immersive engineering is what I expected Railcraft to becomeL410[15:34:20] <Natesky9> In fact, there probably
isn't a better mod that compliments it better
<Natesky9> In fact, there probably
isn't a better mod that compliments it betterL411[15:34:34] <Natesky9> both visually *and*
mechanically
<Natesky9> both visually *and*
mechanicallyL412[15:38:51] <liach>
I just cleaned up issues of railcraft
<liach>
I just cleaned up issues of railcraftL413[15:49:46] <liach>
@CovertJaguar Did you confirm the world gen issue?
<liach>
@CovertJaguar Did you confirm the world gen issue?L414[15:50:10] <CovertJaguar> nope
<CovertJaguar> nopeL415[15:50:36] <liach>
That crash one you can close, guess
<liach>
That crash one you can close, guessL416[15:51:08] <CovertJaguar> I've honestly got
better things to do than to chase ghost reports of missing ore all
the time. No idea if he is just looking in the wrong place or
what.
<CovertJaguar> I've honestly got
better things to do than to chase ghost reports of missing ore all
the time. No idea if he is just looking in the wrong place or
what.L417[15:51:50] <CovertJaguar> it spawned when I was
doing my sky tests, don't know if I actually found any tin
specifically after I moved it back underground
<CovertJaguar> it spawned when I was
doing my sky tests, don't know if I actually found any tin
specifically after I moved it back undergroundL418[15:52:29] <liach>
Might it be caused by height settings?
<liach>
Might it be caused by height settings?L419[15:52:29] <CovertJaguar> but no reason tin would
not work when I can confirm at some types did work
<CovertJaguar> but no reason tin would
not work when I can confirm at some types did workL420[15:53:04] <CovertJaguar> could be, tin spawns at
level 50, and most people don't look for ore at that high of
level
<CovertJaguar> could be, tin spawns at
level 50, and most people don't look for ore at that high of
levelL421[15:53:42] <CovertJaguar> the sweet spot everyone
look is around 30 because of how vanilla works and becuase other
mods make things too easy
<CovertJaguar> the sweet spot everyone
look is around 30 because of how vanilla works and becuase other
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L423[15:56:36] <CovertJaguar> anyway, this is part of
the reason I'd like to add the prospector stuff
<CovertJaguar> anyway, this is part of
the reason I'd like to add the prospector stuffL424[15:56:45] <CovertJaguar> the maps and
shacks
<CovertJaguar> the maps and
shacksL425[15:57:22] <Kodos>
I would -love- being able to plan out where my mine is going to be
before digging a massive mine out and making ugly ass strip mining
tunnels
<Kodos>
I would -love- being able to plan out where my mine is going to be
before digging a massive mine out and making ugly ass strip mining
tunnelsL426[15:58:44] <liach>
@CovertJaguar I moved prospect and chemlab into projects since they
can be parallel to the milestones
<liach>
@CovertJaguar I moved prospect and chemlab into projects since they
can be parallel to the milestonesL427[16:01:35] <CovertJaguar> if you are going to do
that, at least make them new projects
<CovertJaguar> if you are going to do
that, at least make them new projectsL428[16:01:49] <CovertJaguar> and not just toss them
into the todo list
<CovertJaguar> and not just toss them
into the todo listL429[16:02:45] <liach>
Ok
<liach>
OkL430[16:05:27] <liach>
Seems those prospecting became more important
<liach>
Seems those prospecting became more importantL431[16:12:05] ⇦
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L432[16:15:38] <CovertJaguar> oh god, that green on
the signals tag, my eyes ><
<CovertJaguar> oh god, that green on
the signals tag, my eyes ><L433[16:16:05] <Kodos>
And this is why I use dark tagc olors
<Kodos>
And this is why I use dark tagc olorsL434[16:16:49] <CovertJaguar> ok, toned that down a
bit
<CovertJaguar> ok, toned that down a
bitL435[16:17:48] <liach>
fixed
<liach>
fixedL436[16:18:02] <liach>
Used 00aa00 since it looked like a good number
<liach>
Used 00aa00 since it looked like a good numberL437[16:19:39] <CovertJaguar> naw, it was 00ff00
before I changed it to 00aa00
<CovertJaguar> naw, it was 00ff00
before I changed it to 00aa00L438[16:20:06] ***
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L439[16:20:47] <CovertJaguar> ok, we have way too
many enhancement issues
<CovertJaguar> ok, we have way too
many enhancement issuesL440[16:21:06] <CovertJaguar> hard to get rid of them
though
<CovertJaguar> hard to get rid of them
thoughL441[16:22:51] <liach>
You should start from the milestone, then by priority
<liach>
You should start from the milestone, then by priorityL442[16:24:10] <liach>
I wish you can fix chests and add chest carts
<liach>
I wish you can fix chests and add chest cartsL443[16:24:50] <CovertJaguar> what does that
mean?
<CovertJaguar> what does that
mean?L444[16:24:58] <CovertJaguar> I wasn't aware of
any issues
<CovertJaguar> I wasn't aware of
any issuesL445[16:25:10] <liach>
I mean to readd metal and void chest
<liach>
I mean to readd metal and void chestL446[16:26:52] <liach>
Several of your issues are topics. Should they have high priority
tags?
<liach>
Several of your issues are topics. Should they have high priority
tags?L447[16:27:11] <CovertJaguar> topics?
<CovertJaguar> topics?L448[16:29:17] <liach>
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/issues/850
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/issues/851
etc
<liach>
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/issues/850
https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/issues/851
etcL449[16:30:50] <CovertJaguar> give them the question
tag maybe?
<CovertJaguar> give them the question
tag maybe?L450[16:31:12] <CovertJaguar> and high priority too I
guess
<CovertJaguar> and high priority too I
guessL451[16:39:32]
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L456[18:24:18] <CovertJaguar> woot! wyes work
<CovertJaguar> woot! wyes workL457[18:24:28] <CovertJaguar> sadly the actuator is
still ugly and broken
<CovertJaguar> sadly the actuator is
still ugly and brokenL458[18:24:58] <Natesky9> We'll take it
<Natesky9> We'll take itL459[18:25:03] <Natesky9> : D
<Natesky9> : DL460[18:27:26] ***
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L468[19:18:24] <GeneralCamo> And I'm back
<GeneralCamo> And I'm backL469[19:18:25] <GeneralCamo> Hello
<GeneralCamo> HelloL470[19:18:38] <Natesky9> from the other side?
<Natesky9> from the other side?L471[19:18:42] <Natesky9> ♪
<Natesky9> ♪L472[19:19:05] <liach>
Hi
<liach>
HiL473[19:19:06] <GeneralCamo> The problem with RF is
that it's unstable
<GeneralCamo> The problem with RF is
that it's unstableL474[19:19:15] <Natesky9> unstable how?
<Natesky9> unstable how?L475[19:19:24] <GeneralCamo> In terms of the scene
around it
<GeneralCamo> In terms of the scene
around itL476[19:19:35] <Natesky9> Oh, you mean the drama and
stuff
<Natesky9> Oh, you mean the drama and
stuffL477[19:19:41] <GeneralCamo> Remember that RF in 1.11
is pretty much unmaintained as well
<GeneralCamo> Remember that RF in 1.11
is pretty much unmaintained as wellL478[19:19:50] <GeneralCamo> Even more reason to move
away from it
<GeneralCamo> Even more reason to move
away from itL479[19:19:59] <Natesky9> Yeah, I don't know
what's been up with team Cofh
<Natesky9> Yeah, I don't know
what's been up with team CofhL480[19:20:33] <GeneralCamo> My suggestion is to
break away from RF completely. Add FE as a compatibility module
(which would be the engines and the charge converter block)
<GeneralCamo> My suggestion is to
break away from RF completely. Add FE as a compatibility module
(which would be the engines and the charge converter block)L481[19:21:09] <GeneralCamo> Since FE is supposed to
be the maintained successor to RF
<GeneralCamo> Since FE is supposed to
be the maintained successor to RFL482[19:21:34] <GeneralCamo> But I don't trust
the balance of it too much
<GeneralCamo> But I don't trust
the balance of it too muchL484[19:25:40] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar This needs
to be renamed or closed
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar This needs
to be renamed or closedL486[19:26:43] <GeneralCamo> It's being
implemented into vanilla Minecraft
<GeneralCamo> It's being
implemented into vanilla MinecraftL487[19:26:57] <Kodos>
And?
<Kodos>
And?L488[19:26:58] <GeneralCamo> Existing concrete should
probably be renamed "Reinforced Concrete"
<GeneralCamo> Existing concrete should
probably be renamed "Reinforced Concrete"L489[19:27:27] <Kodos>
Immersive Engineering already added concrete and Liquid Concrete,
and a multiblock liquid maker (Even does potions)
<Kodos>
Immersive Engineering already added concrete and Liquid Concrete,
and a multiblock liquid maker (Even does potions)L490[19:27:32] <Kodos>
Doesn't mean RC can't still add it, too
<Kodos>
Doesn't mean RC can't still add it, tooL491[19:27:43] <GeneralCamo> Fair I guess
<GeneralCamo> Fair I guessL492[19:28:00] <Kodos>
Not everyone uses both mods, anyway
<Kodos>
Not everyone uses both mods, anywayL493[19:28:09] <CovertJaguar> wow that looks derpy as
hell
<CovertJaguar> wow that looks derpy as
hellL494[19:28:36] <Kodos>
The gravity blocks are the 'powder', you have to place
water next to it to form the concrete
<Kodos>
The gravity blocks are the 'powder', you have to place
water next to it to form the concreteL495[19:29:08] <GeneralCamo> It reminds me of
IC2's system actually
<GeneralCamo> It reminds me of
IC2's system actuallyL496[19:29:12] <GeneralCamo> Exp's that is
<GeneralCamo> Exp's that isL497[19:29:23] <GeneralCamo> (I guess you could
automate it like that GIF, though that seems impractical at
BEST)
<GeneralCamo> (I guess you could
automate it like that GIF, though that seems impractical at
BEST)L498[19:29:51] <Kodos>
With a block breaker it could be done. It's too bad End Rods
dont' function like Quark makes them
<Kodos>
With a block breaker it could be done. It's too bad End Rods
dont' function like Quark makes themL499[19:30:37] <GeneralCamo> Indeed
<GeneralCamo> IndeedL500[19:31:23] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar I suggest
for 1.12 (assuming Railcraft ever gets ported to that, apparently
there is some massive change or something incoming?) that the
Concrete in Railcraft be renamed to "reinforced
concrete", and replace the stone in the recipe with the
concrete in 1.12
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar I suggest
for 1.12 (assuming Railcraft ever gets ported to that, apparently
there is some massive change or something incoming?) that the
Concrete in Railcraft be renamed to "reinforced
concrete", and replace the stone in the recipe with the
concrete in 1.12L501[19:33:11] <CovertJaguar> I'm just going to
pretend none of that exists and keep using my concrete made out of
quartz and blast furnace slag
<CovertJaguar> I'm just going to
pretend none of that exists and keep using my concrete made out of
quartz and blast furnace slagL502[19:34:50] <GeneralCamo> Quartz and Blast Furnace
slag?
<GeneralCamo> Quartz and Blast Furnace
slag?L503[19:35:04] <GeneralCamo> That's a completely
different recipe from what I remember, I missed a lot didn't
I?
<GeneralCamo> That's a completely
different recipe from what I remember, I missed a lot didn't
I?L504[19:35:16] <CovertJaguar> those block are just
flat textures, are they getting lazy over there?
<CovertJaguar> those block are just
flat textures, are they getting lazy over there?L505[19:35:35] <GeneralCamo> (Well we have been
saying that for the past few updates yeah)
<GeneralCamo> (Well we have been
saying that for the past few updates yeah)L506[19:35:53] <GeneralCamo> TBF it's just in
snapshots. I remember the first Beacon Block texture
<GeneralCamo> TBF it's just in
snapshots. I remember the first Beacon Block textureL507[19:36:04] <GeneralCamo> I could have done a
better job in 5 minutes
<GeneralCamo> I could have done a
better job in 5 minutesL508[19:37:25] <GeneralCamo> (Though if the concrete
texture doesn't get upgraded, I will question why I should use
"concrete" over hardened clay for my builds)
<GeneralCamo> (Though if the concrete
texture doesn't get upgraded, I will question why I should use
"concrete" over hardened clay for my builds)L509[19:38:12] <GeneralCamo> Anyway, moving on
<GeneralCamo> Anyway, moving onL510[19:39:09]
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L512[19:40:01] <GeneralCamo> Focus is on the
Railcraft 10.1 milestone I presume
<GeneralCamo> Focus is on the
Railcraft 10.1 milestone I presumeL514[19:41:31] <GeneralCamo> I hear Forge has some
new function on this topic
<GeneralCamo> I hear Forge has some
new function on this topicL515[19:41:40] <GeneralCamo> Apparently added for
Chisels and Bit's purposes
<GeneralCamo> Apparently added for
Chisels and Bit's purposesL516[19:41:49] <GeneralCamo> Apparently added for
Chisels and Bits' purposes
<GeneralCamo> Apparently added for
Chisels and Bits' purposesL517[19:42:14] <Kodos>
The one thing concrete has over clay is the colors are more
vibrant
<Kodos>
The one thing concrete has over clay is the colors are more
vibrantL518[19:42:47] <liach>
the minecraft one cannot be called concrete. they are cement in
fact
<liach>
the minecraft one cannot be called concrete. they are cement in
factL519[19:44:00] <CovertJaguar> @GeneralCamo eh,
that's more am OpenGL render context issue
<CovertJaguar> @GeneralCamo eh,
that's more am OpenGL render context issueL520[19:44:07] <CovertJaguar> those are TESRs done in
OpenGL
<CovertJaguar> those are TESRs done in
OpenGLL521[19:44:14] <GeneralCamo> Oh
<GeneralCamo> OhL522[19:44:15] <CovertJaguar> not models
<CovertJaguar> not modelsL523[19:44:46] <CovertJaguar> Player and Vexatos
broke it and I've been to busy with other stuff to figure
which line is missing
<CovertJaguar> Player and Vexatos
broke it and I've been to busy with other stuff to figure
which line is missingL524[19:45:09] <Player> pff, it was
working back then :D
L525[19:45:25] <GeneralCamo> #alwaysblameplayer
<GeneralCamo> #alwaysblameplayerL526[19:45:29] <Player> should still work
for 1.8+, just needs a hole in the json model
L527[19:45:40] <CovertJaguar> only when you stood
right next to it ;)
<CovertJaguar> only when you stood
right next to it ;)L528[19:46:00] <CovertJaguar> if you backed away
10-20 meters it goes dark
<CovertJaguar> if you backed away
10-20 meters it goes darkL529[19:46:14] <GeneralCamo> @Player Since you
"broke" it and apparently know how to fix it, why
don't you do it? ?
<GeneralCamo> @Player Since you
"broke" it and apparently know how to fix it, why
don't you do it? ?L530[19:46:37] <Player> hmm then the z
offset is insufficient
L531[19:46:49] <Player> or the tesr range
is insufficient
L532[19:46:52] <Player> but likely the
former
L533[19:46:56] <CovertJaguar> the texture is
transparent
<CovertJaguar> the texture is
transparentL534[19:47:00] <CovertJaguar> it just stops
glowing
<CovertJaguar> it just stops
glowingL535[19:47:09] <CovertJaguar> the color remains
visible
<CovertJaguar> the color remains
visibleL536[19:47:48] <Player> hmm
screenshot?
L538[19:49:09] <Player> hmm could also be
that gl lighting is still on
L539[19:49:14] <Player> and wrong normals
for that
L540[19:49:26] <CovertJaguar> probably
<CovertJaguar> probablyL541[19:49:42] <CovertJaguar> I don't figure it
will be too hard to fix, I'm just not there yet
<CovertJaguar> I don't figure it
will be too hard to fix, I'm just not there yetL542[19:49:43] <Player> ah i already wrote
that in the issue :D
L543[19:49:57] <Player> note that some gl
state are per texture unit
L544[19:50:01] <Player> and mc uses 2
texture units
L545[19:50:06] <CovertJaguar> hmm
<CovertJaguar> hmmL546[19:50:23] <Player> one for the actual
texture, one for lighting
L547[19:50:39] <CovertJaguar> oh I think I know what
you are talking about
<CovertJaguar> oh I think I know what
you are talking aboutL548[19:51:50] <CovertJaguar> bleh, this wye json is
weird as hell, rotate it backwards, mirror it, then swap states
under certain conditions, but it seems to work now
<CovertJaguar> bleh, this wye json is
weird as hell, rotate it backwards, mirror it, then swap states
under certain conditions, but it seems to work nowL549[19:51:51]
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L550[19:53:04] <GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar There was
a question in this chat about how hard it would be to make tracks
3d models
<GeneralCamo> @CovertJaguar There was
a question in this chat about how hard it would be to make tracks
3d modelsL551[19:53:12] <Natesky9> Ah, yes
<Natesky9> Ah, yesL552[19:53:22] <Natesky9> I think that would make
them look alot better
<Natesky9> I think that would make
them look alot betterL553[19:53:25] <CovertJaguar> not too hard, I have
models for the basic shapes
<CovertJaguar> not too hard, I have
models for the basic shapesL555[19:54:14] <Natesky9> Why models over
bipmap-based uh, vertex buffers?
<Natesky9> Why models over
bipmap-based uh, vertex buffers?L556[19:54:17] <GeneralCamo> Oh wow I completely
forgot that resource packs enable that feature
<GeneralCamo> Oh wow I completely
forgot that resource packs enable that featureL557[19:54:29] <CovertJaguar> the problem is you need
new textures for everything to split the track from the ties
<CovertJaguar> the problem is you need
new textures for everything to split the track from the tiesL558[19:54:43] <CovertJaguar> or cheat I
suppose
<CovertJaguar> or cheat I
supposeL559[19:55:39] <CovertJaguar> cheat my mapping
different parts of the texture to the ties under the track and the
top of the track to the sides
<CovertJaguar> cheat my mapping
different parts of the texture to the ties under the track and the
top of the track to the sidesL560[19:55:46] <Player> sounds like a job
for the new multipart models
L561[19:56:20] <CovertJaguar> its not hards, just
need someone famillar with the JSON system to do a bunch of tedious
work
<CovertJaguar> its not hards, just
need someone famillar with the JSON system to do a bunch of tedious
workL562[19:56:22] <GeneralCamo> Oh hey good idea. THat
would allow interfacing with the kits as well, yeah?
<GeneralCamo> Oh hey good idea. THat
would allow interfacing with the kits as well, yeah?L563[19:56:35] <CovertJaguar> I've made sure
that the Railcraft tracks are all JSON defined
<CovertJaguar> I've made sure
that the Railcraft tracks are all JSON definedL564[19:57:30] <Joshwoo70> *pukes* json
<Joshwoo70> *pukes* jsonL565[19:58:02] <Joshwoo70> Dabbled wth a bit of json
in my little modding experience imo... i don't like it
<Joshwoo70> Dabbled wth a bit of json
in my little modding experience imo... i don't like itL566[19:58:16] <GeneralCamo> It's human readable
at least
<GeneralCamo> It's human readable
at leastL567[19:58:24] <GeneralCamo> So you can use notepad++
to work with it
<GeneralCamo> So you can use notepad++
to work with itL568[19:58:29] <GeneralCamo> Great for quick
fixes
<GeneralCamo> Great for quick
fixesL569[19:58:56] <Joshwoo70> that works too
<Joshwoo70> that works tooL570[19:59:39] <Joshwoo70> https://hjson.org what you think? i probably prefer
this over regular json
<Joshwoo70> https://hjson.org what you think? i probably prefer
this over regular jsonL571[20:00:50] <CovertJaguar> eh, Intellij has all
the assistence I need
<CovertJaguar> eh, Intellij has all
the assistence I needL572[20:01:03] <CovertJaguar> syntax checking,
formatting, etc...
<CovertJaguar> syntax checking,
formatting, etc...L573[20:01:24] <CovertJaguar> I use CubikStudio for
making models
<CovertJaguar> I use CubikStudio for
making modelsL574[20:03:00] <Natesky9> Frankly, json is pretty
slow because of string comparison
<Natesky9> Frankly, json is pretty
slow because of string comparisonL575[20:03:11] <Natesky9> however, it's very
good at being able to be read
<Natesky9> however, it's very
good at being able to be readL576[20:03:42] <CovertJaguar> not much point in
debating the merits, it what we have to live with
<CovertJaguar> not much point in
debating the merits, it what we have to live withL577[20:06:49] <Natesky9> What's the difference
in Json, and NBT?
<Natesky9> What's the difference
in Json, and NBT?L578[20:07:46] <Player> json just is
supposed to be hand written by mojang and forge..
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L580[21:01:05] <CovertJaguar> officially done with
the Wye
<CovertJaguar> officially done with
the WyeL581[21:01:26] <CovertJaguar> tomorrow the Turnout,
which is going to be even more horrible
<CovertJaguar> tomorrow the Turnout,
which is going to be even more horribleL582[21:02:56] <Natesky9> Woo!
<Natesky9> Woo!L583[21:03:16] <Natesky9> I'm actually awaiting
signals in my world
<Natesky9> I'm actually awaiting
signals in my worldL584[21:10:58] <Xilandro> Turnout?
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1/
<liach>
1/L587[21:27:41] <liach>
?
<liach>
?L588[21:29:14] <Natesky9> The switch tracks
<Natesky9> The switch tracksL589[21:29:50] <Natesky9> You know, Wye tracks are a
Y, the turnout tracks are a.... K with one leg missing?
<Natesky9> You know, Wye tracks are a
Y, the turnout tracks are a.... K with one leg missing?L590[21:30:30] <Natesky9> |-
<Natesky9> |-L591[21:30:48] <vedrit> T junctions?
<vedrit> T junctions?L592[21:30:59] <Natesky9> Yeah, those
<Natesky9> Yeah, thoseL593[21:43:12] <vedrit> Tsk, darn NVidia..
<vedrit> Tsk, darn NVidia..L594[21:43:23] <vedrit> Faulty driver causing MC to
crash
<vedrit> Faulty driver causing MC to
crashL595[21:44:34] <liach>
forge maven is unstable again
<liach>
forge maven is unstable againL596[22:03:26] ⇦
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L600[22:58:25] <CovertJaguar> yep, it causes travis
to fail looks like
<CovertJaguar> yep, it causes travis
to fail looks likeL601[23:11:51]
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L602[23:26:17] <Xilandro> Is there a way
to disable boiler explosions in 9.12.2? A friend doesn't
understand the concept of 'If the boiler runs out of water,
LET IT COOL DOWN BEFORE PUTTING NEW WATER IN"
L603[23:26:27] <Xilandro> And just wrecked
our two forestry farms
L604[23:27:13] <Natesky9> There's no automatic
water dodads in your pack?
<Natesky9> There's no automatic
water dodads in your pack?L605[23:27:56] <Xilandro> We have a train
running water from water tanks to the LP network which is inserting
into the boiler, but fucking pixelmon keep standing on the
tracks
L606[23:28:24] <Natesky9> Put your trains on high
speed
<Natesky9> Put your trains on high
speedL607[23:28:41] <Natesky9> that'll make
poke'pancakes of any critters that get in the way
<Natesky9> that'll make
poke'pancakes of any critters that get in the wayL608[23:28:50] <Natesky9> Or just do a raised
track
<Natesky9> Or just do a raised
trackL609[23:54:37] <Xilandro> Okay, well at
what temperature is an HP Boiler subject to explode with exposure
to cold water
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