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L2[00:40:23] <Fleynic> heya! I was wondering how is the optfine compatibility ass of now. anywhere close to solve the graphic issues?
L3[01:17:36] <Elourge> I think its still ass
L4[01:22:40] <Forecaster> No, the missing textures were fixed
L5[01:22:47] <Elourge> As far as I can tell opifine hasnt updated in a lil whille for 1.10.2
L6[01:22:57] <Elourge> was that railcraft 10.0.1?
L7[01:23:06] <Forecaster> it was on OF's side
L8[01:26:01] <Elourge> my perception of time is getting whack, could have sworn its been brought up in the last 3 weeks since opi updated
L9[01:27:52] <Forecaster> https://github.com/CovertJaguar/Railcraft/issues/924
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L14[02:13:23] <Elourge> damn that was about a month ago
L15[02:53:01] <Forecaster> people keep reporting it because they don't update OF
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L43[09:05:30] <liach> @Fleynic Optifine is fixed. I sent a pull to forge
L44[09:06:13] <liach> to fix future issues
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L54[11:38:19] <Fleynic> I noticed...
L55[11:39:10] <Fleynic> although I agree with the optifine developer; you should use a less-alienated system. XD
L56[11:48:28] <Amerem> whats a good gaming headset anyone around here have any personal favorites?
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L58[11:53:35] <Forecaster> Mine is pretty old now
L59[11:54:30] <Amerem> well currently ive got some nox audio headphones(the mic doesnt work) and an old telecom mic
L60[11:56:20] <Forecaster> http://a.co/enF4ZIW
L61[11:56:26] <Forecaster> I've got a pair of these
L62[11:57:57] <Amerem> I like creatives newer models but they are to damn expensive
L63[11:58:14] <Forecaster> I'm find with this one for now :P
L64[11:58:17] <Forecaster> fine*
L65[11:58:24] <Forecaster> until they break
L66[11:59:12] <Amerem> and as I have to use a usb on my pc because my audio ports are shot I need a usb amp or use my current amp which is kinda meh at times
L67[11:59:51] <Forecaster> why can't you get usb headphones?
L68[12:00:24] <Amerem> I could yeah but then what about my microphone lol
L69[12:00:43] <Amerem> Im kinda picky when it comes to audio lol
L70[12:00:52] <Forecaster> get a headset with built-in mic?
L71[12:02:10] <Amerem> thats what im really looking for but with good positional audio
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L73[12:04:57] <Speiger> o/
L74[12:05:05] <Speiger> CovertJaguar are you there?
L75[12:05:44] <Speiger> found a bug that is already fixed but not released. 1.7.10 could need a patch update since it got a lot of patches
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L77[12:33:11] <Fleynic> Speiger? good to know that you still give some minimal support to 1.7.10
L78[12:33:39] <Fleynic> some modders have abandoned 1.7.10 it after updating
L79[12:34:43] <bballboy2002> amerem go bluetooth its easier
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L81[12:37:21] <SkySom> I mean can you blame us Fleynic?
L82[12:37:30] <SkySom> Supporting multiple versions is a pain
L83[12:39:31] <Unstable_Scarlet> Can we- Yes, Do we- No
L84[12:39:41] <bballboy2002> lol
L85[12:40:12] <Fleynic> Did I blame any of you? -.- No offense was intended
L86[12:40:31] <Fleynic> Did I blame on *any* of you? -.- No offense was intended
L87[12:40:40] <SkySom> You made it sound like abandoning 1.7.10 is a bad thing
L88[12:41:47] <Fleynic> case-by-case; but basically, some moders do abandon 1.7.10, and any bug reports of compatibility, glitches, etc? ignored
L89[12:42:09] <bballboy2002> irk
L90[12:42:12] <bballboy2002> *ikr
L91[12:42:13] <SkySom> I know several modders who did abandon.
L92[12:42:16] <SkySom> Good for them.
L93[12:42:31] <SkySom> Like I said, it's a lot of work to support multiple versions
L94[12:43:34] <Fleynic> ehrm, ain't there 3 versions? 1.7.10, 1.10.2, and 1.11 (1.9 & 1.10 count as the same as almost nothing has changed)
L95[12:43:41] <Fleynic> ehrm, ain't there 3 main versions? 1.7.10, 1.10.2, and 1.11 (1.9 & 1.10 count as the same as almost nothing has changed)
L96[12:44:03] <Fleynic> unless you are developing multiple mods at once
L97[12:44:16] <SkySom> Depends on what you say is main
L98[12:44:34] <Fleynic> main = most popular/played
L99[12:44:43] <SkySom> But there's also a huge difference between 1.7.10 and 1.10.2 vs 1.10.2 and 1.1
L100[12:44:47] <SkySom> But there's also a huge difference between 1.7.10 and 1.10.2 vs 1.10.2 and 1.11
L101[12:45:00] <SkySom> In terms of code
L102[12:45:03] <bballboy2002> 1.8 is very different too
L103[12:45:19] <Fleynic> I know it's a bit of an abiss between 1.10 and 1.7.10...
L104[12:45:24] <bballboy2002> are there any mods available for 1.11 yet?
L105[12:45:29] <SkySom> Quite a few
L106[12:45:39] <Fleynic> Skysom, you reminded me
L107[12:45:53] <Fleynic> 1.11? it did some neat things for people like you.
L108[12:46:04] <Fleynic> no more null item stacks...
L109[12:46:18] <bballboy2002> ?
L110[12:46:30] <MrConductor> * SkySom shrugs
L111[12:46:43] <bballboy2002> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L112[12:46:48] <SkySom> I couldn't really care less about the nonnull itemstacks
L113[12:47:05] <SkySom> The only thing it did was cause all kinds of little issues
L114[12:47:17] <SkySom> Where I was previously null checking
L115[12:47:20] <Fleynic> and those little issues are gone! poof.
L116[12:47:24] <Fleynic> less work for you.
L117[12:47:30] <SkySom> No
L118[12:47:38] <SkySom> The itemstacks being nonnull
L119[12:47:42] <SkySom> Is what caused them.
L120[12:47:52] <SkySom> They were caused by the switch in 1.11
L121[12:48:31] <Fleynic> excuse me..? as far as I recall, null ones are quite problematic
L122[12:48:37] <SkySom> They can be.
L123[12:48:50] <SkySom> But the issue is now I have null checks all over the code base
L124[12:49:04] <SkySom> ALl those null checks have to be removed and replaced with itemstack.isValid
L125[12:49:15] <SkySom> Any code now using nullchecks will break in unexpected ways
L126[12:49:38] <Fleynic> if you're updating, that can be just an annoyance
L127[12:50:02] <Fleynic> but for someone new on the office, maybe not
L128[12:51:00] <Fleynic> by the way, I suggest moving to off-topic... before we get a mod asking us
L129[12:51:11] <Fleynic> by the way, I suggest moving to off-topic... before we get a mod asking us to
L130[12:51:12] <MrConductor> * SkySom shrugs
L131[12:51:24] <SkySom> I feel as though the conversation has run it's course really
L132[12:51:32] <SkySom> Must be returning to work
L133[12:51:52] <Fleynic> you know what, you remind me of something.
L134[12:52:54] <Fleynic> One day, I will get the original RedPower, reverse-enginery it, then update to latest MC... (possibly when I'm done studying)
L135[12:53:39] <SkySom> I feel like Elo would actually be one of the few people to take legal action against you
L136[12:53:53] <SkySom> I'd advise against touching that codebase in any way shape or form.
L137[12:54:04] <SkySom> I'd advise against touching that codebase in any way, shape, or form.
L138[12:54:31] <SkySom> I feel like Elo would actually be one of the few people to try totake legal action against you
L139[12:54:59] <Fleynic> SkySom, I almost smell it. Even if I took the (abandoned) BluePower and Update it to latest, just changing the name again... it could happen
L140[12:55:46] <Fleynic> although I'm not saying I would use the RP source without permission.
L141[12:56:09] <SkySom> You're not going to get permission
L142[12:58:01] <Fleynic> maybe not. but when I'm done studying and I update BP, it might has as much as the original RP had. ? I feel like Direwolf would take this as a X-mas present..!
L143[12:58:10] <Fleynic> maybe not. but when I'm done studying and I update BP, it might has as much as the original RP had. ? I feel like Direwolf20 would take this as a X-mas present..!
L144[12:59:09] <MrConductor> * SkySom shrugs
L145[12:59:09] <SkySom> Good luck
L146[12:59:16] <bballboy2002> ./shrug
L147[12:59:49] <Fleynic> last comment on topic, sometimes I wonder why no modder has taken the BluePower project, as it's open for anyone...
L148[13:12:04] <SkySom> Perhaps no one wants it? I haven't really seen too many people go "Damn I miss Bluepower"
L149[13:14:54] <Fleynic> ...I'll slap you. -w-
L150[13:15:37] <Fleynic> that's highly unlikely; BP was meant to be an open re-implementation of RP
L151[13:15:46] <Elourge> what was blupower even useful for?
L152[13:15:49] <Fleynic> that's highly unlikely; BP was meant to be an open source re-creation of RP
L153[13:15:49] <Shadows> Bluepower was a failure compared to projred
L154[13:16:00] <Shadows> And tjp is working on projred last I heard
L155[13:16:06] <Shadows> Just on fmp first
L156[13:16:37] <Fleynic> as far as I know, Project red is a completely different thing
L157[13:17:04] <Fleynic> comparing Redpower to Project red is like comparing stone to sandstone
L158[13:17:13] <Shadows> A reimpl of rp2 yeah so different
L159[13:17:49] <Fleynic> proof, please?
L160[13:19:35] <Fleynic> I've checked mod spotlights and I don't see them similar
L161[13:22:52] <Amerem> bluetooth is expensive and I prefer the better latency wired offers also my bluetooth drivers are bugged and I can no longer open my bluetooth control panel...so yea
L162[13:25:46] <Elourge> Id suggest getting a basic DAC
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L173[19:24:16] <Benanov> even USB audio
L174[19:24:37] <Benanov> @Elourge as for what bluepower is useful for...I'm not sure. :/
L175[19:24:45] <Benanov> Sapphire glass is nice and reasonably cheap.
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L178[19:52:04] <featherwit> question: i have 1.10.2 railcraft. how do i smelt full copper ore rather than the poor? It won't proceed in a regular furnace. do i need a blast furnace?
L179[19:53:02] <Elourge> do you ahve other mods installed? like ic2?
L180[19:53:13] <Elourge> do you have other mods installed? like ic2?
L181[19:53:26] <featherwit> just railcraft. so i need others. sigh. what are my choices.
L182[19:54:40] <Elourge> Id recommend the core 4, railcraft, forestry, ic2 and buildcraft. But buildcraft aint out on 1.10.2 yet
L183[19:55:27] <featherwit> fine i can wait. thanks for the advice.
L184[19:56:12] <liach> Why isn't CovertJaguar even here?
L185[19:56:39] <featherwit> "Do NOT ask CJ if he is here!" it says.
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L187[19:56:46] <liach> @Forecaster Can you create a mc-1.11 branch on github out of mc-1.10.2 branch with no extra commits? That might remind CJ of updating
L188[19:57:47] <Elourge> guys its approching christmas, he probably has family and friends to spend time with
L189[20:03:30] <liach> ?
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L201[22:33:37] <Fleynic> Hey there! I got something derpy so I need to ask...
L202[22:34:22] <Fleynic> How the hell I'm supposed to caft Rails if the motherfucking standar rails require the rail blocks themselves?! -.-
L203[22:34:23] <Fleynic> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/258089209607225344/unknown.png
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L206[22:35:23] <Elourge> O wait
L207[22:35:30] <Elourge> Your 1.7.10
L208[22:35:33] <Fleynic> yep.
L209[22:35:45] <Elourge> Does those recipes in the rolling machine
L210[22:36:06] <Fleynic> can you rephrase, I didn't got it
L211[22:36:20] <Fleynic> can you rephrase? I didn't got it
L212[22:37:13] <Elourge> ok, Get yo self one of them rolling machines my boy. But beware as the fool needs some RF/Mjs
L213[22:37:30] <Elourge> Then place in yo iron/bronze/steel
L214[22:37:39] <Elourge> 3 on each side of the machine
L215[22:38:44] <Fleynic> got it!
L216[22:39:02] <Fleynic> sometimes I wonder why NEI derps so badly...
L217[22:39:13] <Elourge> I think there is a plugin to fix it
L218[22:40:08] <Fleynic> I'll try to find it. thanks anyways..!
L219[22:40:22] <Elourge> But otherwise GJ
L220[22:40:22] <Elourge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/225184360049934336/258090715903557643/My_Nigga.png
L221[22:45:02] <liach> Always use neiplugin or craftguide in 1.7.10
L222[22:45:13] <liach> I just got a full list of public emblems
L223[22:45:36] <Elourge> gimi
L224[23:08:32] <Fleynic> alright, just to be sure..! but are RC and IC2 plates interchangable on 1.7.10?
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L227[23:37:09] <liach> No
L228[23:37:16] <liach> Rc plates are not oredicted
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