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<Joshwoo70> hang on...i have an
idea.
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<Joshwoo70> @here yay or nay for a
offical railcraft server?
L3[00:03:32]
<Joshwoo70> yay is yes nay is ofc
no.
L4[00:03:36]
<vigilian> railcraft server?
L5[00:03:49]
<vigilian> whatr do you mean by
that?
L6[00:04:04]
<Joshwoo70> aka railcraft public
server running the mod railcraft only
L7[00:04:25]
<vigilian> lol why would yo uwant
that?
L8[00:04:27]
<Joshwoo70> i know CJ has a private
one for patreon or something but
L9[00:04:41]
<erindalc> A railcraft based pack,
yes, railcraft only, no
L10[00:04:43]
<Joshwoo70> *inserts here "why
not"*
L11[00:05:00]
<Joshwoo70> @erindalc okay...
L12[00:05:10]
<vigilian> if you want railcraft you
would also want forestry
L13[00:05:14]
<vigilian> and buildcraft
L14[00:05:44]
<Joshwoo70> thinking project red.
buildcraft, forestry ,railcraft, railcraft cosmetics
L15[00:05:53]
<Joshwoo70> and no... no IC2
L16[00:05:58]
<erindalc> Wait for 1.7.10 or
1.10.2?
L17[00:06:21]
<Joshwoo70> for now 1.7.10
L18[00:06:21]
<Joshwoo70> we wait for 3 mods
L19[00:06:21]
<Joshwoo70> 2*
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<Joshwoo70> Projectred and
railcraft
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<erindalc> And buildcraft
L22[00:06:42]
<Joshwoo70> ah yes that too
L23[00:06:57]
<Joshwoo70> or we could do 1.9
L24[00:07:00]
<Joshwoo70> but meh
L25[00:07:23]
<erindalc> There's a public
Railcraft for 1.9?
L26[00:07:54]
<vigilian> so you would like a
community fans on the same server for railcraft?
L27[00:07:55]
<Joshwoo70> i don't think
so...
L28[00:08:11]
<Joshwoo70> @vigilian kinda yes
L29[00:08:33]
<Joshwoo70> if it takes off then
yeah.. we will see.
L30[00:08:56]
<vigilian> why don't you do it?
you don't needCJ for that
L31[00:09:25]
<Joshwoo70> i don't think so...
for the public 1.9
L32[00:09:38]
<Joshwoo70> there is no 1.9 release
right?
L33[00:09:41]
<Joshwoo70> afaik
L34[00:09:48]
<vigilian> yeah but 1.7.10 i
mean
L35[00:10:11]
<vigilian> I m not awware of any
official railcraft server
L36[00:10:31]
<vigilian> maybe CJ have railcraft for
his friends but as patreon I wasn't aware
L37[00:10:37]
<vigilian> of any railcraft official
server
L38[00:11:08]
<vigilian> and since I do my own
servers all the time and when there is a release go test it right
away on all my servers
L39[00:11:21]
<Joshwoo70> yeah no railcraft
servers
L40[00:11:23]
<vigilian> I didn't even look for
the information
L41[00:11:46]
<vigilian> but that s not a bad idea
you ve got
L42[00:12:10]
<vigilian> I dont know if my hardware
servers would support 30+ people on bad java programming as
minecraft
L43[00:12:30]
<vigilian> but if you know what should
be the tech specs we could discuss it
L44[00:13:09]
<Joshwoo70> i have a fri3d over at the
ferret business modpack who is able to provide a server for
us.
L45[00:13:14]
<Joshwoo70> i have a friend over at
the ferret business modpack who is able to provide a server for
us.
L46[00:13:50]
<vigilian> yeah but we have to see if
it would support as I say 30+ people with this load of java
L47[00:13:52]
<Joshwoo70> btw what specs do you
jave?
L48[00:14:29]
<Joshwoo70> @vigilian it suppots a
modpack with at most ~4 people online at 1 time.
L49[00:14:43]
<vigilian> yeah but we would speak
about 20 people
L50[00:14:53]
<vigilian> that could be connected at
the same time
L51[00:15:12]
<vigilian> and this is not pocket
edition
L52[00:15:39]
<Joshwoo70> yeah
L53[00:15:48]
<vigilian> I never looked for the
biggest server of minecraft and their specs and what mods they were
using
L54[00:15:52]
<Joshwoo70> we will need a light
pack.
L55[00:16:02]
<vigilian> make a search maybe and
link it here
L56[00:16:06]
<vigilian> it could be
interesting
L57[00:16:16]
<Joshwoo70> mineyourmind has a
server
L58[00:16:25]
<Joshwoo70> or server network
L59[00:16:42]
<vigilian> but for the I/O I think it
would be necessary to have a RAID of SSD
L61[00:16:50]
<vigilian> and for the moment I
do'nt have any available
L62[00:16:55]
<Joshwoo70> welp
L63[00:16:58]
<Joshwoo70> brb
L64[00:21:57]
<Joshwoo70> huh okay...
L65[00:22:50]
<Joshwoo70> it is either we ask for
sponsorship from one of the hosts or we host it ourselves.
L66[00:23:06]
<Joshwoo70> but i will let
@CovertJaguar decide if it is suitable.
L67[00:23:42]
<vigilian> I don't think he has
the time
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<vigilian> nor the will to invest in
this project
L69[00:24:01]
<vigilian> if we do this we have to do
this on our own
L70[00:24:13]
<vigilian> but anyway you should do a
search to know the specs of the biggest servers
L71[00:24:28]
<vigilian> since you seem interested
in that project
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<Hanakocz> Server for like
0.8€/person/month with ssd, "unlimited" ram (enough for
light pack, when I run on that my big ones), Europe datacenter with
main internet cable.
L83[02:36:54]
<Hanakocz> Server for like
0.8€/person/month with ssd, "unlimited" ram (enough for
light pack, when I run on that my big ones without problems),
Europe datacenter with main internet cable.
L84[02:38:16]
<Hanakocz> Somehow good thing for
modded server is that it has to be paid for number of slots and not
for RAM...so if you need the server, tell me.
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<Hanakocz> Oh...and there are people
that sell "credit" for those under prize , so the costs
can be lowered to half or to even third. But they do it on
nonEnglish forums so I would have to provide that (ya it is
safe)
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<liach>
@Joshwoo70 nay! No to 1.9 and Yes to IC2!
L107[11:02:03]
<liach>
Hi Covert
L108[11:03:55]
<CovertJaguar> Yeah admining a server
is a headache I haven't given much thought to =p
L109[11:04:31]
<Forecaster> I'd do it but I
don't have the resources to run a very large server
L110[11:05:11]
<CovertJaguar> /me wonders how much it
would cost
L111[11:05:50] <MrConductor> * Forecaster
doesn't work on mobile for some reason
L112[11:05:58]
<Forecaster> ./me doesn't work on
mobile for some reason
L113[11:06:06]
<CovertJaguar> /me shrugs
L114[11:06:12]
<Forecaster> you can put _'s
around the text instead :P
L115[11:06:45] <MrConductor> * liach
dislike minecon since it is for kids
L116[11:07:14]
<Forecaster> congratulations CJ,
you're a kid now :D
L117[11:07:46]
<liach>
No I mean I went to Anaheim and saw a bunch of kids and server
managers
L118[11:08:04]
<Forecaster> I've got news for
you, lots of minecraft players are kids :P
L119[11:08:05]
<liach>
No one looked like modder or coder, etc
L120[11:08:11] <Vexatos> liach:
That's why you attend PicoBTM
L121[11:08:19] <Vexatos> there you can
make fun of all the people attending Minecon :>
L122[11:08:40]
<CovertJaguar> Awful lot of alcohol
for a kids event...
L123[11:09:18] <Vexatos> Well the adults
have to get through it somehow
L124[11:09:30] <Vexatos> I'm not even
able to _watch_ some of it
L125[11:09:40] <Vexatos> _being_ there
must be quite hard in a sober state :P
L126[11:09:42]
<CovertJaguar> Modders are the people
with there names on their shirt, usually hiding in a corner
somewhere
L127[11:09:42]
<Forecaster> I'm not watching any
of it
L128[11:09:58] <Vexatos> So far you
haven't missed a thing
L129[11:10:03] <Vexatos> all the
interesting stuff has not been streamed
L130[11:10:20]
<liach>
@CovertJaguar Btw how's my pr?
L131[11:10:39]
<Forecaster> he's at minecon, I
doubt he's looked at much code :P
L132[11:10:39] <Vexatos> The modding panel
yesterday was streamed over periscope through a mobile phone by
minecreatr >_>
L133[11:10:41]
<CovertJaguar> Complicated
L134[11:10:50]
<CovertJaguar> And too much for my
phone
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<Hanakocz> There was some modding
panel? I seen just a lot of vanilla BS on time-list
L140[12:01:21]
<Hanakocz> not like years ago when
whole Forge had own srams
L141[12:01:26]
<Hanakocz> not like years ago when
whole Forge had own streams
L142[12:01:41]
<Hanakocz> not like years ago when
whole Forge had own streams...and Cj was on it ?
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<Hanakocz> lol changes for 1.11 kinda
sux except few things
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<Forecaster> why?
L161[14:22:24]
<Hanakocz> invulnerability if you use
shield, WAY lower hunger consumption (none if you walk) ,
backpacks...they do rom a game for kids the game for toddlers
?
L162[14:23:07]
<Forecaster> I doubt it'll work
like that on hard
L163[14:23:41]
<Hanakocz> invulnerability if you use
shield, WAY lower hunger consumption (none if you walk) ,
backpacks...they do from a game for kids the game for toddlers
?
L164[14:24:52]
<Hanakocz> Well, there are few nice
things, like both gamerules, and so, but still. We will need to use
mods to make it a Game
L165[14:25:08]
<Forecaster> ohno, how horrible
etc
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<Hanakocz> I still don't know how
I will be able to play on higher versions without 1.7 adventure
gamemode, because it is no a thing in higher anymore in same
way
L168[14:27:33]
<Forecaster> what
L169[14:28:21] <neptunepink> 1.7 adventure
mode is basically "you have to use the right tools"
L170[14:28:53] <neptunepink> 1.8 is
"the tools have to have some special NBT tag"
L171[14:29:34] <neptunepink> Oh, and 1.7
lets you place all blocks & 1.8 it's like eg "this
lever has an NBT tag that says you can place it on a gold
block"
L172[14:30:11]
<Forecaster> oh right, adventure
mode
L173[14:30:14]
<Forecaster> meh
L174[14:30:22]
<Forecaster> I just increase the block
hardness
L175[14:30:49] <neptunepink> Like the
Kihira (?) gregtech server is on adventure mode
L176[14:31:16]
<Forecaster> forcing that doesn't
add anything as far as I'm concerned
L177[14:31:31] <Vexatos> kirara :P
L178[14:35:06]
<Hanakocz> It makes you use always the
right tool so you don't mine some tier 4 ore to get it
destroyed instead of dropped because you have tier 2 pick
L179[14:35:49]
<Forecaster> maybe if that happens a
lot your tools are overpowered
L180[14:36:52]
<Forecaster> if they even break
something they can't mine properly too quickly for you to
realize
L181[14:37:10]
<Hanakocz> it is not about
speed.
L182[14:37:35] <neptunepink> There's
a kihira on FC so the name is very confusing
L183[14:37:39]
<Hanakocz> high tier materials are
normally breaked slow even with the right tool
L184[14:37:53]
<Forecaster> but slower with the wrong
tool
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<Forecaster> haha
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<Joshwoo70> @liach oh you JUST to be
that douche to use IC2. in a modpack
L198[17:52:50]
<Joshwoo70> it is overrated
now...
L199[17:53:27]
<liach>
@Joshwoo70 Why is it that bad?
L200[17:54:17]
<Joshwoo70> no .. just no ic2.
please
L201[17:54:29]
<Joshwoo70> it is just overused
L202[17:54:48]
<liach>
Then do you choose Thermal Expansion? That even suck more
L203[17:55:57] <Player> pff
L204[17:56:17]
<Joshwoo70> no TE either
L205[17:56:38]
<Joshwoo70> and Player is probably
Playersf from fastcraft afaik?
L206[17:56:58] <Player> and ic2 :P
L207[17:57:20]
<Joshwoo70> ah yes.
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<Hanakocz> there is oly one better
industrial mod than IC2 and that is GregTech ?
L211[19:47:24]
<liach>
Is gt migrating to mc 1.10?
L212[19:47:25]
<Hanakocz> but really, IC2 is love and
live
L213[19:47:33]
<Hanakocz> well...not yet
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<liach>
Well you can get a lot of electricity from wind easily
L215[19:47:48]
<liach>
That is good for IC2
L216[19:48:07]
<liach>
And redstone for electricity
L217[19:48:47]
<liach>
And Railcraft electricity is designed to be equivalent to IC2
electricity in basic units
L218[19:48:54]
<liach>
?
L219[19:50:09]
<Hanakocz> it is the family of old
school mods that just it well together ?
L220[19:50:17]
<Hanakocz> it is the family of old
school mods that just fit well together ?
L221[19:50:30]
<liach>
Is thermalexpansion still alive?
L222[19:52:23]
<Hanakocz> well it looks someone is
still updating the 1.7.10 versions
L223[19:55:01]
<liach>
why did they become open source?
L224[19:55:09]
<liach>
I mean cofh mods
L225[19:56:02]
<liach>
The cofh team is pretty inactive
L226[20:00:30]
<Hanakocz> well, I guess hype
ended
L227[20:01:34]
<Hanakocz> and oldschool IC2, BC and
so got back to rails and rolling forward, so fan-base is content
and seasonal players ended with that hype
L228[20:01:48]
<liach>
I love IC2
L229[20:03:30]
<Hanakocz> It was my first mod,
kinda
L230[20:04:30]
<Hanakocz> I still remember 1.2.5 and
when I was like "oh I already know all vanilla" , then
IC/BC server went up and I was like "oh I am total nub again,
knowing nothing"
L231[20:05:19]
<Hanakocz> I think in that times there
even was no NEI , so wiki was all times open
L232[20:13:05] <Kodos> My power
progression usually goes IE > Railcraft > Mekanism
L233[20:15:35]
<Hanakocz> I found mekanism boring, it
was not really funny to have full tech in one day of playing
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L235[20:36:56] <Kodos> Oh trust me,
you're not going to get completely done with Mekanism in one
day unless you've been hoarding butt tons of redstone, iron,
diamond, coal, and obsidian
L236[20:37:55]
<liach>
mekanism
L237[20:38:33]
<liach>
I just know the reason to add tin gear bushing is because maker of
mekanism cried that railcraft need to change its recipe to fix the
conflicting recipes
L239[20:51:02]
<liach>
Well anyway the cost of railcraft gear has increased since
then
L240[21:12:50] <meepmeep22> Great meeting
you at minecon covert
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