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L1[00:02:30] <Joshwoo70> hang on...i have an idea.
L2[00:03:11] <Joshwoo70> @here yay or nay for a offical railcraft server?
L3[00:03:32] <Joshwoo70> yay is yes nay is ofc no.
L4[00:03:36] <vigilian> railcraft server?
L5[00:03:49] <vigilian> whatr do you mean by that?
L6[00:04:04] <Joshwoo70> aka railcraft public server running the mod railcraft only
L7[00:04:25] <vigilian> lol why would yo uwant that?
L8[00:04:27] <Joshwoo70> i know CJ has a private one for patreon or something but
L9[00:04:41] <erindalc> A railcraft based pack, yes, railcraft only, no
L10[00:04:43] <Joshwoo70> *inserts here "why not"*
L11[00:05:00] <Joshwoo70> @erindalc okay...
L12[00:05:10] <vigilian> if you want railcraft you would also want forestry
L13[00:05:14] <vigilian> and buildcraft
L14[00:05:44] <Joshwoo70> thinking project red. buildcraft, forestry ,railcraft, railcraft cosmetics
L15[00:05:53] <Joshwoo70> and no... no IC2
L16[00:05:58] <erindalc> Wait for 1.7.10 or 1.10.2?
L17[00:06:21] <Joshwoo70> for now 1.7.10
L18[00:06:21] <Joshwoo70> we wait for 3 mods
L19[00:06:21] <Joshwoo70> 2*
L20[00:06:27] <Joshwoo70> Projectred and railcraft
L21[00:06:35] <erindalc> And buildcraft
L22[00:06:42] <Joshwoo70> ah yes that too
L23[00:06:57] <Joshwoo70> or we could do 1.9
L24[00:07:00] <Joshwoo70> but meh
L25[00:07:23] <erindalc> There's a public Railcraft for 1.9?
L26[00:07:54] <vigilian> so you would like a community fans on the same server for railcraft?
L27[00:07:55] <Joshwoo70> i don't think so...
L28[00:08:11] <Joshwoo70> @vigilian kinda yes
L29[00:08:33] <Joshwoo70> if it takes off then yeah.. we will see.
L30[00:08:56] <vigilian> why don't you do it? you don't needCJ for that
L31[00:09:25] <Joshwoo70> i don't think so... for the public 1.9
L32[00:09:38] <Joshwoo70> there is no 1.9 release right?
L33[00:09:41] <Joshwoo70> afaik
L34[00:09:48] <vigilian> yeah but 1.7.10 i mean
L35[00:10:11] <vigilian> I m not awware of any official railcraft server
L36[00:10:31] <vigilian> maybe CJ have railcraft for his friends but as patreon I wasn't aware
L37[00:10:37] <vigilian> of any railcraft official server
L38[00:11:08] <vigilian> and since I do my own servers all the time and when there is a release go test it right away on all my servers
L39[00:11:21] <Joshwoo70> yeah no railcraft servers
L40[00:11:23] <vigilian> I didn't even look for the information
L41[00:11:46] <vigilian> but that s not a bad idea you ve got
L42[00:12:10] <vigilian> I dont know if my hardware servers would support 30+ people on bad java programming as minecraft
L43[00:12:30] <vigilian> but if you know what should be the tech specs we could discuss it
L44[00:13:09] <Joshwoo70> i have a fri3d over at the ferret business modpack who is able to provide a server for us.
L45[00:13:14] <Joshwoo70> i have a friend over at the ferret business modpack who is able to provide a server for us.
L46[00:13:50] <vigilian> yeah but we have to see if it would support as I say 30+ people with this load of java
L47[00:13:52] <Joshwoo70> btw what specs do you jave?
L48[00:14:29] <Joshwoo70> @vigilian it suppots a modpack with at most ~4 people online at 1 time.
L49[00:14:43] <vigilian> yeah but we would speak about 20 people
L50[00:14:53] <vigilian> that could be connected at the same time
L51[00:15:12] <vigilian> and this is not pocket edition
L52[00:15:39] <Joshwoo70> yeah
L53[00:15:48] <vigilian> I never looked for the biggest server of minecraft and their specs and what mods they were using
L54[00:15:52] <Joshwoo70> we will need a light pack.
L55[00:16:02] <vigilian> make a search maybe and link it here
L56[00:16:06] <vigilian> it could be interesting
L57[00:16:16] <Joshwoo70> mineyourmind has a server
L58[00:16:25] <Joshwoo70> or server network
L59[00:16:42] <vigilian> but for the I/O I think it would be necessary to have a RAID of SSD
L60[00:16:49] <Joshwoo70> https://mineyourmind.net
L61[00:16:50] <vigilian> and for the moment I do'nt have any available
L62[00:16:55] <Joshwoo70> welp
L63[00:16:58] <Joshwoo70> brb
L64[00:21:57] <Joshwoo70> huh okay...
L65[00:22:50] <Joshwoo70> it is either we ask for sponsorship from one of the hosts or we host it ourselves.
L66[00:23:06] <Joshwoo70> but i will let @CovertJaguar decide if it is suitable.
L67[00:23:42] <vigilian> I don't think he has the time
L68[00:23:52] <vigilian> nor the will to invest in this project
L69[00:24:01] <vigilian> if we do this we have to do this on our own
L70[00:24:13] <vigilian> but anyway you should do a search to know the specs of the biggest servers
L71[00:24:28] <vigilian> since you seem interested in that project
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L82[02:36:27] <Hanakocz> Server for like 0.8€/person/month with ssd, "unlimited" ram (enough for light pack, when I run on that my big ones), Europe datacenter with main internet cable.
L83[02:36:54] <Hanakocz> Server for like 0.8€/person/month with ssd, "unlimited" ram (enough for light pack, when I run on that my big ones without problems), Europe datacenter with main internet cable.
L84[02:38:16] <Hanakocz> Somehow good thing for modded server is that it has to be paid for number of slots and not for RAM...so if you need the server, tell me.
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L86[02:42:58] <Hanakocz> Oh...and there are people that sell "credit" for those under prize , so the costs can be lowered to half or to even third. But they do it on nonEnglish forums so I would have to provide that (ya it is safe)
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L106[11:01:48] <liach> @Joshwoo70 nay! No to 1.9 and Yes to IC2!
L107[11:02:03] <liach> Hi Covert
L108[11:03:55] <CovertJaguar> Yeah admining a server is a headache I haven't given much thought to =p
L109[11:04:31] <Forecaster> I'd do it but I don't have the resources to run a very large server
L110[11:05:11] <CovertJaguar> /me wonders how much it would cost
L111[11:05:50] <MrConductor> * Forecaster doesn't work on mobile for some reason
L112[11:05:58] <Forecaster> ./me doesn't work on mobile for some reason
L113[11:06:06] <CovertJaguar> /me shrugs
L114[11:06:12] <Forecaster> you can put _'s around the text instead :P
L115[11:06:45] <MrConductor> * liach dislike minecon since it is for kids
L116[11:07:14] <Forecaster> congratulations CJ, you're a kid now :D
L117[11:07:46] <liach> No I mean I went to Anaheim and saw a bunch of kids and server managers
L118[11:08:04] <Forecaster> I've got news for you, lots of minecraft players are kids :P
L119[11:08:05] <liach> No one looked like modder or coder, etc
L120[11:08:11] <Vexatos> liach: That's why you attend PicoBTM
L121[11:08:19] <Vexatos> there you can make fun of all the people attending Minecon :>
L122[11:08:40] <CovertJaguar> Awful lot of alcohol for a kids event...
L123[11:09:18] <Vexatos> Well the adults have to get through it somehow
L124[11:09:30] <Vexatos> I'm not even able to _watch_ some of it
L125[11:09:40] <Vexatos> _being_ there must be quite hard in a sober state :P
L126[11:09:42] <CovertJaguar> Modders are the people with there names on their shirt, usually hiding in a corner somewhere
L127[11:09:42] <Forecaster> I'm not watching any of it
L128[11:09:58] <Vexatos> So far you haven't missed a thing
L129[11:10:03] <Vexatos> all the interesting stuff has not been streamed
L130[11:10:20] <liach> @CovertJaguar Btw how's my pr?
L131[11:10:39] <Forecaster> he's at minecon, I doubt he's looked at much code :P
L132[11:10:39] <Vexatos> The modding panel yesterday was streamed over periscope through a mobile phone by minecreatr >_>
L133[11:10:41] <CovertJaguar> Complicated
L134[11:10:50] <CovertJaguar> And too much for my phone
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L139[11:59:33] <Hanakocz> There was some modding panel? I seen just a lot of vanilla BS on time-list
L140[12:01:21] <Hanakocz> not like years ago when whole Forge had own srams
L141[12:01:26] <Hanakocz> not like years ago when whole Forge had own streams
L142[12:01:41] <Hanakocz> not like years ago when whole Forge had own streams...and Cj was on it ?
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L157[14:14:03] <Hanakocz> lol changes for 1.11 kinda sux except few things
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L160[14:16:25] <Forecaster> why?
L161[14:22:24] <Hanakocz> invulnerability if you use shield, WAY lower hunger consumption (none if you walk) , backpacks...they do rom a game for kids the game for toddlers ?
L162[14:23:07] <Forecaster> I doubt it'll work like that on hard
L163[14:23:41] <Hanakocz> invulnerability if you use shield, WAY lower hunger consumption (none if you walk) , backpacks...they do from a game for kids the game for toddlers ?
L164[14:24:52] <Hanakocz> Well, there are few nice things, like both gamerules, and so, but still. We will need to use mods to make it a Game
L165[14:25:08] <Forecaster> ohno, how horrible etc
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L167[14:26:43] <Hanakocz> I still don't know how I will be able to play on higher versions without 1.7 adventure gamemode, because it is no a thing in higher anymore in same way
L168[14:27:33] <Forecaster> what
L169[14:28:21] <neptunepink> 1.7 adventure mode is basically "you have to use the right tools"
L170[14:28:53] <neptunepink> 1.8 is "the tools have to have some special NBT tag"
L171[14:29:34] <neptunepink> Oh, and 1.7 lets you place all blocks & 1.8 it's like eg "this lever has an NBT tag that says you can place it on a gold block"
L172[14:30:11] <Forecaster> oh right, adventure mode
L173[14:30:14] <Forecaster> meh
L174[14:30:22] <Forecaster> I just increase the block hardness
L175[14:30:49] <neptunepink> Like the Kihira (?) gregtech server is on adventure mode
L176[14:31:16] <Forecaster> forcing that doesn't add anything as far as I'm concerned
L177[14:31:31] <Vexatos> kirara :P
L178[14:35:06] <Hanakocz> It makes you use always the right tool so you don't mine some tier 4 ore to get it destroyed instead of dropped because you have tier 2 pick
L179[14:35:49] <Forecaster> maybe if that happens a lot your tools are overpowered
L180[14:36:52] <Forecaster> if they even break something they can't mine properly too quickly for you to realize
L181[14:37:10] <Hanakocz> it is not about speed.
L182[14:37:35] <neptunepink> There's a kihira on FC so the name is very confusing
L183[14:37:39] <Hanakocz> high tier materials are normally breaked slow even with the right tool
L184[14:37:53] <Forecaster> but slower with the wrong tool
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L186[14:49:14] <Hanakocz> when you guys won't know what to do with a garden: http://www.drah-servis.cz/detail.php?typ=lgb_kolejiste_ostatni_satanek
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L188[14:56:16] <Forecaster> haha
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L197[17:52:43] <Joshwoo70> @liach oh you JUST to be that douche to use IC2. in a modpack
L198[17:52:50] <Joshwoo70> it is overrated now...
L199[17:53:27] <liach> @Joshwoo70 Why is it that bad?
L200[17:54:17] <Joshwoo70> no .. just no ic2. please
L201[17:54:29] <Joshwoo70> it is just overused
L202[17:54:48] <liach> Then do you choose Thermal Expansion? That even suck more
L203[17:55:57] <Player> pff
L204[17:56:17] <Joshwoo70> no TE either
L205[17:56:38] <Joshwoo70> and Player is probably Playersf from fastcraft afaik?
L206[17:56:58] <Player> and ic2 :P
L207[17:57:20] <Joshwoo70> ah yes.
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L210[19:46:50] <Hanakocz> there is oly one better industrial mod than IC2 and that is GregTech ?
L211[19:47:24] <liach> Is gt migrating to mc 1.10?
L212[19:47:25] <Hanakocz> but really, IC2 is love and live
L213[19:47:33] <Hanakocz> well...not yet
L214[19:47:44] <liach> Well you can get a lot of electricity from wind easily
L215[19:47:48] <liach> That is good for IC2
L216[19:48:07] <liach> And redstone for electricity
L217[19:48:47] <liach> And Railcraft electricity is designed to be equivalent to IC2 electricity in basic units
L218[19:48:54] <liach> ?
L219[19:50:09] <Hanakocz> it is the family of old school mods that just it well together ?
L220[19:50:17] <Hanakocz> it is the family of old school mods that just fit well together ?
L221[19:50:30] <liach> Is thermalexpansion still alive?
L222[19:52:23] <Hanakocz> well it looks someone is still updating the 1.7.10 versions
L223[19:55:01] <liach> why did they become open source?
L224[19:55:09] <liach> I mean cofh mods
L225[19:56:02] <liach> The cofh team is pretty inactive
L226[20:00:30] <Hanakocz> well, I guess hype ended
L227[20:01:34] <Hanakocz> and oldschool IC2, BC and so got back to rails and rolling forward, so fan-base is content and seasonal players ended with that hype
L228[20:01:48] <liach> I love IC2
L229[20:03:30] <Hanakocz> It was my first mod, kinda
L230[20:04:30] <Hanakocz> I still remember 1.2.5 and when I was like "oh I already know all vanilla" , then IC/BC server went up and I was like "oh I am total nub again, knowing nothing"
L231[20:05:19] <Hanakocz> I think in that times there even was no NEI , so wiki was all times open
L232[20:13:05] <Kodos> My power progression usually goes IE > Railcraft > Mekanism
L233[20:15:35] <Hanakocz> I found mekanism boring, it was not really funny to have full tech in one day of playing
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L235[20:36:56] <Kodos> Oh trust me, you're not going to get completely done with Mekanism in one day unless you've been hoarding butt tons of redstone, iron, diamond, coal, and obsidian
L236[20:37:55] <liach> mekanism
L237[20:38:33] <liach> I just know the reason to add tin gear bushing is because maker of mekanism cried that railcraft need to change its recipe to fix the conflicting recipes
L238[20:45:35] <Kodos> Actually, no, he didn't 'cry' about it. CJ offered to fix it. You can find that conversation here https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/1693
L239[20:51:02] <liach> Well anyway the cost of railcraft gear has increased since then
L240[21:12:50] <meepmeep22> Great meeting you at minecon covert
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